Thank you for pointing that out. It seems most people when pointing out problems with google are really just highlighting their lack of understanding of how it works.
Imagine if I complained that Linux needed lots more work because when I'm at the command line I get an error from typing "move my email inbox to the floppy disk."
Can't Linux developers just audit all their "critical NUMA and RCU multi-processor code", to look for shady origins?
SCO is finally admitting that it is Sequent code in Linux that they are upset about. There's no reason Linux developers should have to remove this code since IBM now owns Sequent and is legally allowed to contribute code it helped develop and now owns.
My entire work network was unscathed, because they're all kept completely up to date. I can't think of any reason why someone shouldn't be doing the same to their Windows network...
Because MS patches are often just as poorly written as their base software is? Patches take time to roll out on production servers because they have been known to break things.
I was infuriated because who would buy our CD?s if they could get them online for free?
Er, who's going to buy the Futurerama DVDs if they can download the episodes for free?
For everyone to get the joke, go to rkz's page and read his journal entry on trolling in #slashdot (he posts links to copies of a futurerama episode.) here's a snippet:
[rkz] i dont have a disposable income to waste on dvds of futurama [rkz] so i just download it [rkz] you are just pissed off that you needed to pay for it and i got it for free
Sure, they have a more wide variety of results returned, but notice what the differences are...The results having nothing to do with Apple Computer point to a MSN site. The results having nothing to do with buying flowers point to a MSN site. Jeez, you don't think Microsoft would deliberately skew the results in their favor, do you?
The 3rd "hole" they list doesn't seem like a hole at all to me. You mean to say Google is lowering the barrier to entry for publishing?!?! How dare they!
Bottom line is I'll take Google's documented, open, and well understood skewing to the closed, undocumented skewing done by Microsoft.
Please, before you use this software to develop any mission critical applications or enterprise solutions DOUBLE-CHECK that this GNO/ME is truly open-sourced.
Someone should also make sure SCO doesn't think they own the rights to it
I know a lot of Domain Name Registrars use these methods on their web-based whois forms, to prevent spammers from harvesting email addresses and domains via automated scripts.
Imagine when high-quality digital recording facilities are available at low cost to those that want to use them.
Um, that's available now. Has been for a couple years. I could build an amazing recording PC (with all the needed software) for about $2000. If I wanted to do some hardcore effects procession make it $2500. That's damn cheap for high-quality recording. Even if I went the Mac route it's still under $4000 for a really nice studio setup. It sounds like a lot, but if you're serious about making music it's worth it.
I don't know how much of an effect it will have on the RIAA though. Everyone thought the homestudio tape multitrack recorders would mean the end to huge pop bands and a revival in local, smaller artists. To some degree they were right, at least until the RIAA coopted the "local, smaller artist" mantra and you started seeing artists like Sarah Mclachlan "making it on their own terms." I'll save that for another rant though.
As it stands right now, for an initial investment of $4000 or so (and that's for a really nice setup) and a recurring $1500 fee, I can put out 1000 pressed CDs. That may sound like a lot, but if you sell them for $5 each, and sell them all, you make $3500 on the first pressing. Almost enough to pay off the computer/software you bought...and you can use them to make another CD, and another, and another, etc.
Hm, interesting. I didn't realize people used Vegas for audio.
If your husband can't handle the "arcane' interface of Windows software there's no way he's going to be using Ardour anytime soon. You should download ProTools Free for him to try out, as the only complaint I had with it was it reminded me too much of a tape based studio:) Barring that working for him, I say he should stick to the hardware based multitrackers. I'm actually considering switching to those right now, to get away from computers a bit (sort of a "get back to my roots" kind of thing)
Long and short of it is that the musical world is filled with people like your husband. They don't care how the studio works, they only care about how easy it is to use and how much you can do with it. Which is why things like ProTools (and Macs for that matter) are so popular. It just has to work and stay out of the way.
ProTools? If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
ProTools has a free version (it's limited in certain ways) that is perfectly usable for hobbyists. You could also buy a MBox (really nice USB audio I/O) for $500 and it comes packaged with ProTools. Vegas is a video editing package, not audio, so I'm not sure why you are considering that. Sonar is only $299 on musiciansfriend.com. Yes that's a lot, but it's cheaper (to me at least) than spending days getting a homebrew Linux/Ardour studio thrown together. Plus all these software packages do FAR MORE than Ardour is even trying to do.
I'm actually starting to wonder if you're a troll. Your husband has been "lusting" after the ability to record music for years, yet you claim you already have an audio PC for the family. Do you not let him use it?
1GHz bus? gimme a break. Intel hasn't yet reached this. Two points impossible
Uhh...aren't PCs at a 900MHZ bus right now? That's only 100MHZ away from 1GHZ.
Also, Apple have a long standing habit of using Firewire instead of USB 2.0. I take this as one point impossible
That would explain my iBooks 2 USB ports and 1 firewire port. You seem to forget that Apple also has a habit (which severely predates the PC world) of including lots of USB)
Only one FW800 port? Why would Apple stick with FireWire 400 anyway? I mark this impossible
There aren't a lot of FW800 devices out yet. There are tons of FW400. That's why they left the 400 ports and only added 1 FW800.
Bad grammar, but optical audio in a graphics machine? I'm sorry but this sounds like wishful thinking. One more point impossible.
This may come as a shock, but some people apparently use Macs for audio work too! For instance the ENTIRE FUCKING MUSIC INDUSTRY.
In total, that's 4 and a half impossible features out of ten. If you're waiting on this machine, you'll be waiting a LONG time people.
I'm sorry, but you are so out of it that I'm bookmarking your post, and when these machines are announced I will be sure to post it all over the slashdot story:)
They say that 45% of the songs are purchased as albums as if itâ(TM)s a great accomplishment, but doesnâ(TM)t that mean that very few transactions are actually albums?
That's on of the points of the iTMS. I don't need to buy the entire album just to hear the 1 or 2 songs I like.
This is false. Even if the votes had favored Bush (they didn't), the SC decision was to ignore the vote based on the fact that the press had already declared Bush the winner. Doing otherwise, they argued in an incredible example of NewSpeak, would cast doubt on the election results.
Did you even read the SC's decision? They ruled (rightfully so!) that the Democrat's recounting of select areas of Florida (the poor and mostly democratic counties, oddly enough) gave those votes more weight, thus lessening the value of all the other votes of the state. Basically if the Dems had been crying for a complete statewide recount (which btw the bush camp was doing) they would have been fine. Instead they tried to skew the results in their favor and it fucked them in the end.
Before you even try to argue with me, imagine if every state was forced under pressure from the republicans to recount the ballets from white upper-class neighborhoods.
The write-up doesn't mention flying in a sandstorm. Right now troops on the ground can barely move because of 100ft visibility. This would at least let them move faster.
Er, that's a bit of a negative view of this. Maybe they made the perfect choice, so they stuck with it. Amigas were amazing computers for their time. Same goes for the Newton. Obviously the Newton worked so well that people can still use them today. I wish I could say the same for my PalmIII that lasted less than 2 years.
What I want to know is what happens when someone circumvents this to forward a company memo to the FTC or DOJ. Whistleblowers are protected by the federal government, but they just violated the DMCA. Will the feds charge them, and then charge themselves with retaliation against a whistleblower? My head hurts.
People don't like wobbling down the sidewalk looking bloody stupid after all.
They might as well give away a big red hat that says "Tool"
So how exactly do you explain that stupid scooter phenomenon a couple years ago? Personally, I'd love a Segway, but I'd need mass transit to get me the rest of the way. Then I wouldn't need a car at all.
The ultimate irony in this is when that happened to me. I went out and got one of those $20 boxes at best buy which convert rca to a coax signal, only to discover it also stripped out the macrovision BS. Now I never have to worry about it:)
Sorry if I misunderstood. It seemed like you were saying that Apple killed iCommune because it competes with their Rendezvous-enabled iTunes, which is clearly not the case. Apple's not stupid, they know their Rendezvous iTunes is not geared for copyright infringement. Sorry if I seemed rude, but a lot of people seem to misunderstand what Rendezvous (zeroconf) is and how it works.
As for the vaporware thing, I guess our definitions of it just differ. Since hundreds of thousands of people saw it (both via the quicktime stream at macworld and at booths at the show) I don't really consider it vaporware, but I can see why some would. As far as I'm concerned it exists, so it's not vapor. Now if Jobs had just announced the existence of it without showing a demo and letting people play with it at the booths, then I would agree it is vapor.
Anyway, back to my quicktime exercises (holy jeebus it's easy to embed movies in your applications on a Mac:)
This isn't about stopping P2P. It is about Apple using its license to prevent someone from doing something they don't like, probably because, as only a few people mentioned, Apple is going to enable Rendezvous sharing in iTunes (in theory, someday).
*sigh*
Between the macslash article yesterday and the article on here today I'm getting really sick of having to explain what Rendezvous is. It is not a P2P framework. It's ONLY usable on local networks.
As for iTunes having Rendezvous, it's not just "theory", Jobs did a demo 2 macworlds ago. It only supports streaming from one Mac to another, no copying. Apple is very obviously trying to provide their users with the ability to share music (in the real sense of the word "share", not this "I'll give you a copy and you can keep it" BS that everyone seems to use)
That doesn't mean you can't write P2P apps for OSX. Hell, you can even have them automagically parse your iTunes library and share it. But Apple doesn't want the RIAA to get confused when they see iTunes users illegally copying music.
So you're partially right. It's not about stopping P2P. It's about covering their own ass to avoid the ire of the RIAA while quietly developing their own solutions. Technically streaming isn't legal either, but with Rendezvous you can only do it on your local network (thus adding great weight to the "just sharing music between friends" argument.) The more amazing thing is Apple seems to be the one company to come up with a way to share music while still having a quasi-legal leg to stand on.
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Thank you for pointing that out. It seems most people when pointing out problems with google are really just highlighting their lack of understanding of how it works.
Imagine if I complained that Linux needed lots more work because when I'm at the command line I get an error from typing "move my email inbox to the floppy disk."
SCO is finally admitting that it is Sequent code in Linux that they are upset about. There's no reason Linux developers should have to remove this code since IBM now owns Sequent and is legally allowed to contribute code it helped develop and now owns.
Because MS patches are often just as poorly written as their base software is? Patches take time to roll out on production servers because they have been known to break things.
Er, who's going to buy the Futurerama DVDs if they can download the episodes for free?
For everyone to get the joke, go to rkz's page and read his journal entry on trolling in #slashdot (he posts links to copies of a futurerama episode.) here's a snippet:
[rkz] i dont have a disposable income to waste on dvds of futurama
[rkz] so i just download it
[rkz] you are just pissed off that you needed to pay for it and i got it for free
This guy is a troll. Mod him down.
the results for a search of "flower" on msn's search engine:
R M= MSNH&v=1&q=flowers
R M= MSNH&v=1&q=apple
http://search.msn.com/results.asp?RS=CHECKED&FO
The search results for "apple" are interesting too:
http://search.msn.com/results.asp?RS=CHECKED&FO
Sure, they have a more wide variety of results returned, but notice what the differences are...The results having nothing to do with Apple Computer point to a MSN site. The results having nothing to do with buying flowers point to a MSN site. Jeez, you don't think Microsoft would deliberately skew the results in their favor, do you?
The 3rd "hole" they list doesn't seem like a hole at all to me. You mean to say Google is lowering the barrier to entry for publishing?!?! How dare they!
Bottom line is I'll take Google's documented, open, and well understood skewing to the closed, undocumented skewing done by Microsoft.
Please, before you use this software to develop any mission critical applications or enterprise solutions DOUBLE-CHECK that this GNO/ME is truly open-sourced.
Someone should also make sure SCO doesn't think they own the rights to it
Neither is selling illicit copies of anti-virus software, yet I still get daily spam offerring me Norton for $2.95.
I know a lot of Domain Name Registrars use these methods on their web-based whois forms, to prevent spammers from harvesting email addresses and domains via automated scripts.
Um, that's available now. Has been for a couple years. I could build an amazing recording PC (with all the needed software) for about $2000. If I wanted to do some hardcore effects procession make it $2500. That's damn cheap for high-quality recording. Even if I went the Mac route it's still under $4000 for a really nice studio setup. It sounds like a lot, but if you're serious about making music it's worth it.
I don't know how much of an effect it will have on the RIAA though. Everyone thought the homestudio tape multitrack recorders would mean the end to huge pop bands and a revival in local, smaller artists. To some degree they were right, at least until the RIAA coopted the "local, smaller artist" mantra and you started seeing artists like Sarah Mclachlan "making it on their own terms." I'll save that for another rant though.
As it stands right now, for an initial investment of $4000 or so (and that's for a really nice setup) and a recurring $1500 fee, I can put out 1000 pressed CDs. That may sound like a lot, but if you sell them for $5 each, and sell them all, you make $3500 on the first pressing. Almost enough to pay off the computer/software you bought...and you can use them to make another CD, and another, and another, etc.
It really is a great time to be a musician.
Hm, interesting. I didn't realize people used Vegas for audio.
:) Barring that working for him, I say he should stick to the hardware based multitrackers. I'm actually considering switching to those right now, to get away from computers a bit (sort of a "get back to my roots" kind of thing)
If your husband can't handle the "arcane' interface of Windows software there's no way he's going to be using Ardour anytime soon. You should download ProTools Free for him to try out, as the only complaint I had with it was it reminded me too much of a tape based studio
Long and short of it is that the musical world is filled with people like your husband. They don't care how the studio works, they only care about how easy it is to use and how much you can do with it. Which is why things like ProTools (and Macs for that matter) are so popular. It just has to work and stay out of the way.
ProTools has a free version (it's limited in certain ways) that is perfectly usable for hobbyists. You could also buy a MBox (really nice USB audio I/O) for $500 and it comes packaged with ProTools. Vegas is a video editing package, not audio, so I'm not sure why you are considering that. Sonar is only $299 on musiciansfriend.com. Yes that's a lot, but it's cheaper (to me at least) than spending days getting a homebrew Linux/Ardour studio thrown together. Plus all these software packages do FAR MORE than Ardour is even trying to do.
I'm actually starting to wonder if you're a troll. Your husband has been "lusting" after the ability to record music for years, yet you claim you already have an audio PC for the family. Do you not let him use it?
Sorry, I was thinking of IBM's own specsheet for the PPC970 which states a bus speed of 900MHZ. So Apple's 1GHZ bus speed claim is highly probable.
Uhh...aren't PCs at a 900MHZ bus right now? That's only 100MHZ away from 1GHZ.
Also, Apple have a long standing habit of using Firewire instead of USB 2.0. I take this as one point impossible
That would explain my iBooks 2 USB ports and 1 firewire port. You seem to forget that Apple also has a habit (which severely predates the PC world) of including lots of USB)
Only one FW800 port? Why would Apple stick with FireWire 400 anyway? I mark this impossible
There aren't a lot of FW800 devices out yet. There are tons of FW400. That's why they left the 400 ports and only added 1 FW800.
Bad grammar, but optical audio in a graphics machine? I'm sorry but this sounds like wishful thinking. One more point impossible.
This may come as a shock, but some people apparently use Macs for audio work too! For instance the ENTIRE FUCKING MUSIC INDUSTRY.
In total, that's 4 and a half impossible features out of ten. If you're waiting on this machine, you'll be waiting a LONG time people.
I'm sorry, but you are so out of it that I'm bookmarking your post, and when these machines are announced I will be sure to post it all over the slashdot story
That's on of the points of the iTMS. I don't need to buy the entire album just to hear the 1 or 2 songs I like.
Did you even read the SC's decision? They ruled (rightfully so!) that the Democrat's recounting of select areas of Florida (the poor and mostly democratic counties, oddly enough) gave those votes more weight, thus lessening the value of all the other votes of the state. Basically if the Dems had been crying for a complete statewide recount (which btw the bush camp was doing) they would have been fine. Instead they tried to skew the results in their favor and it fucked them in the end.
Before you even try to argue with me, imagine if every state was forced under pressure from the republicans to recount the ballets from white upper-class neighborhoods.
You must be using MSN's search engine. Here's the output from Google:
Searching...82374982734987298347289347982 Results found.
Hope that helps. :)
The write-up doesn't mention flying in a sandstorm. Right now troops on the ground can barely move because of 100ft visibility. This would at least let them move faster.
Er, that's a bit of a negative view of this. Maybe they made the perfect choice, so they stuck with it. Amigas were amazing computers for their time. Same goes for the Newton. Obviously the Newton worked so well that people can still use them today. I wish I could say the same for my PalmIII that lasted less than 2 years.
What I want to know is what happens when someone circumvents this to forward a company memo to the FTC or DOJ. Whistleblowers are protected by the federal government, but they just violated the DMCA. Will the feds charge them, and then charge themselves with retaliation against a whistleblower? My head hurts.
They might as well give away a big red hat that says "Tool"
So how exactly do you explain that stupid scooter phenomenon a couple years ago? Personally, I'd love a Segway, but I'd need mass transit to get me the rest of the way. Then I wouldn't need a car at all.
Not me. I voted for Kodo.
The ultimate irony in this is when that happened to me. I went out and got one of those $20 boxes at best buy which convert rca to a coax signal, only to discover it also stripped out the macrovision BS. Now I never have to worry about it :)
Have you seen Conan or SNL? Being "not funny" seems to be a trademark of their writers.
Great to see a link to jerkcity on slashdot. www.leisuretown.com is another good one, written by the same guy.
Sorry if I misunderstood. It seemed like you were saying that Apple killed iCommune because it competes with their Rendezvous-enabled iTunes, which is clearly not the case. Apple's not stupid, they know their Rendezvous iTunes is not geared for copyright infringement. Sorry if I seemed rude, but a lot of people seem to misunderstand what Rendezvous (zeroconf) is and how it works.
:)
As for the vaporware thing, I guess our definitions of it just differ. Since hundreds of thousands of people saw it (both via the quicktime stream at macworld and at booths at the show) I don't really consider it vaporware, but I can see why some would. As far as I'm concerned it exists, so it's not vapor. Now if Jobs had just announced the existence of it without showing a demo and letting people play with it at the booths, then I would agree it is vapor.
Anyway, back to my quicktime exercises (holy jeebus it's easy to embed movies in your applications on a Mac
*sigh*
Between the macslash article yesterday and the article on here today I'm getting really sick of having to explain what Rendezvous is. It is not a P2P framework. It's ONLY usable on local networks.
As for iTunes having Rendezvous, it's not just "theory", Jobs did a demo 2 macworlds ago. It only supports streaming from one Mac to another, no copying. Apple is very obviously trying to provide their users with the ability to share music (in the real sense of the word "share", not this "I'll give you a copy and you can keep it" BS that everyone seems to use)
That doesn't mean you can't write P2P apps for OSX. Hell, you can even have them automagically parse your iTunes library and share it. But Apple doesn't want the RIAA to get confused when they see iTunes users illegally copying music.
So you're partially right. It's not about stopping P2P. It's about covering their own ass to avoid the ire of the RIAA while quietly developing their own solutions. Technically streaming isn't legal either, but with Rendezvous you can only do it on your local network (thus adding great weight to the "just sharing music between friends" argument.) The more amazing thing is Apple seems to be the one company to come up with a way to share music while still having a quasi-legal leg to stand on.