these are also the same people who are going to ensure that you, I, and everyone else on/. remains in the top tier of non-executive salaries. making twice or more what these ntmonkies make for as long as we like.
in all honesty, i'm cheering them on:)
the more experience companies have with idiots like these, the more willing they'll be to pay one of us some obscene salary just so they can have someone on staff who has some sort of clue as to what they're doing.
seriously people, we shouldn't be railing against this type of "admin"... we should all be smiling benevolently as they trudge off to class as we tent our fingers and mutter "excellent..."
not only do you assume that pirated software would have been purchased, you also assume that these phantom purchases are what makes companies go under and not the total lack of a business plan, organization, and a good set of ideas.
the economy is not in the toilet, and tech is most certainly NOT what would get us out if it were.
tech companies that burn through millions in VC per month due to ill-concieved ideals, a shit business model, and a horrible daily operations approach are NOT gonna be saved from the brink of disaster because a few extra people run out and buy their overpriced, buggy, crap software.
and furthermore, before you even think it, piracy does NOT affect programmers financially. programmers, by and large, do not make money on a per-sale basis. they are salaried workers who make the same amount of money at the end of the year whether their company ships 5 million units or 5 units.
even the musicians getting raped by the RIAA get a better deal than that (albeit not a whole lot better, but still, it's a per-sale basis)
FF8 had one of the most emotionally engaging plotlines in a game i've ever played. hell, i still watch the intro and end videos from time to time just to get the chills.
ok, i've heard 600 comments on how they need to get out of our hair...we also need to think about the other side of it.
i've had cause before to contact the various federal authorities at my job. i'm a sysadmin at a web host and we get the occasional child porn idiot trying to sneak by us.
whenever we've had cause to talk to the authorities (usually the FBI or the secret service) they've always been very cool about the entire affair, come down to take the evidence, make sure they subpoena us so we don't get sued for releasing the info, etc. the only problem is, it's a bitch to drill down through the local hierarchy to get to the people you need to talk to.
so i'd suggest to the gov't, clean up the ease of use for us. make it a more direct contact between the sysadmins who can track these people and the agents who can kick in their doors. i'm sure more people would report network intrusions and the like if they had a simple, easy to use, web-based form to fill out with the intrusion information (assuming it's fixed and they just want the fbi to track/find the guy and bring him to justice) to just help make getting the ball rolling a little easier.
i think what he's saying is he yearns for a system where big companies don't get to use billions of dollars to bullshit morons into buying horseshit products under draconian eulas
"good" (objectively) and "pleasurable to me" (subjectively) have nothing to do with it...i can consider something art and still hate it or find it disugsting...altho by and large if people find something offenseive they're less likely to consier it art. which leads us back into the discussion of the subjective component of art as experienced by the person experiencing it. (draw necessary corollaries with quantum physics, et al)
"Alright, fine. Whether or not something is a work of art needs to be judged based on the experience it provides to the audience. How's that?"
better, but not quite there...experience varies (sometimes wildly) from person to person, so what I may judge art YOU may judge as highly offensive. (think of the jar of urine with a picture of jesus in it...i may not mind it, but i don't think the christian folks in the crowd think it's art)
my personal belief is that there is NO hard definition of what art is. it's mostly a wierd subjective morass of what the "artist" intends and what the "experiencer" gets out of it, in which case everything and anything is _potentially_ art but nothing _has_ to be art.
mostly because i'm a philosopher and i've seen in my studies that for any objective definition of what art is, there are a multitude of examples that deny that definition of art.
napster was NOT blatently illegal, it was a file sharing system. just because it was being used illegally doesn't mean you condem the entire enterprise as illegal. that's like saying cars are illegal because people use them as getaway vehicles in bank robberies.
eh....nerve gas gives its audience an experience too...i suppose that means nerve gas is art as well?
philosophers have been trying for centuries to pin down a precise definition of what constitutes art...i seriously doubt that one article on/. is gonna clear the issue up.
stick to vigorously tearing down other people's comments, it seems as though that's the only part of your post that had any thought given to it
nonsense, they are evil sick twisted people who work for evil sick twisted people. I don't pity a wh0re just because she is "trapped" in a role of her choosing. the telemarketer, as well as the prostitute, can both go flip burgers at mcdonalds to make ends meet...nobody's holding a gun to the callers' heads and forcing them to call innocent victims and annoy the shit out of them.
they are not people like you and me. They are evil people without morals who care not a whit for the feelings of others. They KNOW we hate them...they KNOW we don't want to talk to them...yet they continue to bother us constantly. WHY, I ask you, WHY should we be even civil to them, much less nice to them?
from the comp/sci employment page at the NSA (http://nsa.gov/programs/employ/science.html):
It's been said that the systems environment we offer is a veritable fantasyland for computer science, with vast networks that manipulate huge volumes of data and accomplish information analysis at mind-boggling speeds.
Consider acres of hardware
software years ahead of current commercial technology
microprocessor-based advances
over-the-horizon supercomputers
leading-edge activities in programming, signals (including analog control), GUI's, AI, neural nets, information security, the design and implementation of encryption algorithms, and far beyond.
now, if only the headhunters could come up with a pitch like that...
my one problem with java...it seems that _all_ java implementations are sorely lacking in a halfway decent install system. as a sysadmin who does lots of server installs, the last thing i need is to have to spend an extra 30-60mins futzing around on a system getting java/jsp/tomcat/whatever support up and running.
has sun never heard of./configure; make; make install?
you want greater acceptance of java-based apps? tighten up the installs, make them intuitive (to sysadmins), make them manageable.
i'm sorta assuming that anikin goes thru a bunch of jedi training before the clone wars and that, unless lucas is a total moron, we'd get some sort of direct or indirect explanation of how the principal chars spent the time. altho i'm not really expecting much from the man who brought us jar-jar.
Slashdot Mirror
http://64.21.72.66/bnetd-0.4.25.tar.gz
come get em
these are also the same people who are going to ensure that you, I, and everyone else on /. remains in the top tier of non-executive salaries. making twice or more what these ntmonkies make for as long as we like.
:)
... we should all be smiling benevolently as they trudge off to class as we tent our fingers and mutter "excellent..."
in all honesty, i'm cheering them on
the more experience companies have with idiots like these, the more willing they'll be to pay one of us some obscene salary just so they can have someone on staff who has some sort of clue as to what they're doing.
seriously people, we shouldn't be railing against this type of "admin"
i'm with you...it brings a tear to the eye to see the Bastard in all his original glory...*sniff*
not only do you assume that pirated software would have been purchased, you also assume that these phantom purchases are what makes companies go under and not the total lack of a business plan, organization, and a good set of ideas.
the economy is not in the toilet, and tech is most certainly NOT what would get us out if it were.
tech companies that burn through millions in VC per month due to ill-concieved ideals, a shit business model, and a horrible daily operations approach are NOT gonna be saved from the brink of disaster because a few extra people run out and buy their overpriced, buggy, crap software.
and furthermore, before you even think it, piracy does NOT affect programmers financially. programmers, by and large, do not make money on a per-sale basis. they are salaried workers who make the same amount of money at the end of the year whether their company ships 5 million units or 5 units.
even the musicians getting raped by the RIAA get a better deal than that (albeit not a whole lot better, but still, it's a per-sale basis)
are you on drugs?
FF8 had one of the most emotionally engaging plotlines in a game i've ever played. hell, i still watch the intro and end videos from time to time just to get the chills.
ok, i've heard 600 comments on how they need to get out of our hair...we also need to think about the other side of it.
i've had cause before to contact the various federal authorities at my job. i'm a sysadmin at a web host and we get the occasional child porn idiot trying to sneak by us.
whenever we've had cause to talk to the authorities (usually the FBI or the secret service) they've always been very cool about the entire affair, come down to take the evidence, make sure they subpoena us so we don't get sued for releasing the info, etc. the only problem is, it's a bitch to drill down through the local hierarchy to get to the people you need to talk to.
so i'd suggest to the gov't, clean up the ease of use for us. make it a more direct contact between the sysadmins who can track these people and the agents who can kick in their doors. i'm sure more people would report network intrusions and the like if they had a simple, easy to use, web-based form to fill out with the intrusion information (assuming it's fixed and they just want the fbi to track/find the guy and bring him to justice) to just help make getting the ball rolling a little easier.
just my $0.02
"Alert
The operation timed out when attempting to contact www.royal.gov.uk."
*snicker*
> Does anyone expect an objective response on Slashdot?
only if you're dumb enough to believe such a thing actually exists in nature.
i'll clarify: all responses are subjective, dummy.
i think what he's saying is he yearns for a system where big companies don't get to use billions of dollars to bullshit morons into buying horseshit products under draconian eulas
"good" (objectively) and "pleasurable to me" (subjectively) have nothing to do with it...i can consider something art and still hate it or find it disugsting...altho by and large if people find something offenseive they're less likely to consier it art. which leads us back into the discussion of the subjective component of art as experienced by the person experiencing it. (draw necessary corollaries with quantum physics, et al)
"Alright, fine. Whether or not something is a work of art needs to be judged based on the experience it provides to the audience. How's that?"
better, but not quite there...experience varies (sometimes wildly) from person to person, so what I may judge art YOU may judge as highly offensive. (think of the jar of urine with a picture of jesus in it...i may not mind it, but i don't think the christian folks in the crowd think it's art)
my personal belief is that there is NO hard definition of what art is. it's mostly a wierd subjective morass of what the "artist" intends and what the "experiencer" gets out of it, in which case everything and anything is _potentially_ art but nothing _has_ to be art.
mostly because i'm a philosopher and i've seen in my studies that for any objective definition of what art is, there are a multitude of examples that deny that definition of art.
napster was NOT blatently illegal, it was a file sharing system. just because it was being used illegally doesn't mean you condem the entire enterprise as illegal. that's like saying cars are illegal because people use them as getaway vehicles in bank robberies.
eh....nerve gas gives its audience an experience too...i suppose that means nerve gas is art as well?
/. is gonna clear the issue up.
philosophers have been trying for centuries to pin down a precise definition of what constitutes art...i seriously doubt that one article on
stick to vigorously tearing down other people's comments, it seems as though that's the only part of your post that had any thought given to it
mayhap we're seeing the beginnings of our very own Battle School?
(no i don't actually believe that, but the opportunity to comment was too good to miss)
nonsense, they are evil sick twisted people who work for evil sick twisted people. I don't pity a wh0re just because she is "trapped" in a role of her choosing. the telemarketer, as well as the prostitute, can both go flip burgers at mcdonalds to make ends meet...nobody's holding a gun to the callers' heads and forcing them to call innocent victims and annoy the shit out of them.
they are not people like you and me. They are evil people without morals who care not a whit for the feelings of others. They KNOW we hate them...they KNOW we don't want to talk to them...yet they continue to bother us constantly. WHY, I ask you, WHY should we be even civil to them, much less nice to them?
from the comp/sci employment page at the NSA (http://nsa.gov/programs/employ/science.html):
It's been said that the systems environment we offer is a veritable fantasyland for computer science, with vast networks that manipulate huge volumes of data and accomplish information analysis at mind-boggling speeds.
Consider acres of hardware
software years ahead of current commercial technology
microprocessor-based advances
over-the-horizon supercomputers
leading-edge activities in programming, signals (including analog control), GUI's, AI, neural nets, information security, the design and implementation of encryption algorithms, and far beyond.
now, if only the headhunters could come up with a pitch like that...
ok, someone had to....
why respond to trolls? seriously...
:)
he/she will never understand, you will never change their mind, stop trying
two words: anonymous, coward
eh....look at the uid's :P
oddly enough, however, i'm also from nj
wierd
do what my school did, "schedule" people for service turn-up about a month into the school year :P
my one problem with java...it seems that _all_ java implementations are sorely lacking in a halfway decent install system. as a sysadmin who does lots of server installs, the last thing i need is to have to spend an extra 30-60mins futzing around on a system getting java/jsp/tomcat/whatever support up and running.
./configure; make; make install?
has sun never heard of
you want greater acceptance of java-based apps? tighten up the installs, make them intuitive (to sysadmins), make them manageable.
i'm sorta assuming that anikin goes thru a bunch of jedi training before the clone wars and that, unless lucas is a total moron, we'd get some sort of direct or indirect explanation of how the principal chars spent the time. altho i'm not really expecting much from the man who brought us jar-jar.
yes, for all you who didn't know, this movie should be set in the time of the clone wars. so the title makes sense, even tho it's a bit wimpy ;)