I've found that you can keep them cooler by turning on CPU cycling and CPU slowdown in advanced energy settings. I don't notice much performance difference, as the machine is 98% idle most of the time anyway.
I think the reason is that Apple is doing really innovative things with their UI. Apple's UI is VERY different under the hood than any other off-the-shelf OS. You note that programs are zippy, but the GUI lags, I've observed this as well. I think that you will find that the competitor's answers to Apple's underlying GUI technology will bring similar slowdowns to their respective tables.
The G3 and G4 are basically the same chip, the G4 has AltiVec, which makes it more suitable for DSP-like tasks and less suitable for portable (read: power issues). Most everyday tasks are about the same speed on either chip. This is under Linux. Under OSX you will notice the G4 _FEELS_ a lot zippier (because the GUI uses AltiVec in OSX), even though it performs almost the same.
You joke, but when I moved in to this apartment heating was $100/month and electric was $15. Now Electric is $75 and heating is only $50. It's slightly less cost-effective, but the convenience of always-on athlon computing is worth it, not to mention fewer noisy heater firings.
Well I'm in Rhode Island and I'm speaking of Fleet, Sovereign, and Citizen's banks. I'm working with Citizen's now and they're almost completely hard-wired. Of course the east coast is pretty dense and it might be easier to get a hard-wire here than in the sprawling west.
AFAIK almost all but the lowliest ATMs have been moved to frame relay systems because these days a customer can't wait 30 seconds for the dialup to home base to go through. I'd be prety pissed if I swiped my card and it took 30 seconds to validate. This I gather from working with the ATM team at a major regional bank.
You don't get it, on the -LARGE- scale (also known as the big picture) the increase in efficiencey HELPS us. If all the steel mills and farms in America went under because they can't cut it we'd be much better off, and so would the countries that inherit the industries. We would get cheaper goods and they would get jobs, also the American consumer would have more money to invest in our own borders on things like new computers, homes, cars, etc.
Buying a more expensive U.S.-made product is actually harmful in the long run, you're circumventing the market economics that help us all.
Re:Painful? Yes. Helps long term? I don't see it.
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AFAIK the way our entire economic system works is that when someone can do something cheaper puts the more expensive provider out of business it's better for all involved EXCEPT those who lose the jobs.
The overall effect on the economy is positive for both ends.
Think about how many occupations have been put under in the last 200 years, and how much it lowers the COST of obtaining goods and services. Computers themselves put a hell of a lot of people out of work, but the economy as a whole greatly benefitted from this rise in efficiencey. We should welcome the loss of jobs to robots, machines, and other countries, it's the best way to complete our transition to a services based economy and to increase our standard of living as a whole [world community].
Also remember that $2/day is GREAT pay in most of the rest of the world, it buys a home, and food, and clothing for people who otherwise wouldn't have it. The money saved by the U.S. based companies goes into capital expenditures here, which have a great effect on our economy.
I quit a few months ago. Occasionally I 'cheat' when I go out, but the next day I'm terrible and all I can think of is sweet, sweet nicotine. These would let me smoke every now-and-then without the nasty addictive fallout. I really LIKE smoking, I dig the taste and smell and I wish I could get it occasionally without getting all irritable.
You could use 4,200 RPM drives for recording compressed video and there would be no difference. A standard laptop drive can be 80GB these days, with an 8MB buffer for when the thing does have to readjust for shocks. I think an IBM TravelStar 80 would hold up fine (they have a 'hardened' model for using in more strenuous applications).
Wasn't XFree86 4.3.0 supposed to out at he expo? I know it's close, but could somebody on the 'inside' let us know about where in the release process you are?
The XFree86 website is intentionally cryptic about such plans to keep people like me from -expecting- it on such-and-such a date.
I'd feel like a fool for not patching a system that leaves a wide-open hole that allows anyone over the net to run binaries on my machine without authentication! It's a wide-open bug, with patches available for 6 months!
It's wrong to steal from people, but if you leave your door unlocked all the time I feel no pain for you when your shit all gets stolen.
I always respected that they kept the UI really smooth and mac-like. Office is a complete eyesore, every new version has three more stupid panels encroaching on your productive space. I still log into my Mac-On-Linux install and crank away with ClarisWorks 4.1 when I don't intend to share my documents. The responsiveness of the apps was also amazing. Piping Claris over an X connection on my MOL box is faster than running OpenOffice or MSOffice2000 locally.
I would just SHARE the directory from a single machine running SAMBA or win2k server. Think, you could upgrade everyone at once just by updating ONE install! Make most of the files read-only and roll it out to a few people you know will be 'cool' first and let them test the implementation for you. Also, turn on QuickStart for ALL users so loading moz over the network doesn't slow things down too much or hose the server.
Agreed! The PC BIOS is really lame compared to Open Firmware. Someone oughtta release an OF x86 system and see how the market takes it. I think it would be a boon in the server and workstation markets.
LOL! I had the same thing, from an old server at a medical center, giant 2GB SCSI-II drives full of insurance info, dental records, and who knows what else. I tossed the drives after a while because I didn't want the bad karma, but all I had to do was ask for them, they were willfully handed over to me by a doctor when I was 17.
$5 million could be peanuts compared to the overall savings a superior 'back button' technology could bring us. Steve Jobs had the right idea when he pushed the original Mac development team to shave second off the boot time; he said every second times every boot times every user would save millions of seconds/dollars in the end.
How good is SATA support in Linux these days? Can I get a SATA card and expect to actually use it soon? Will Linux support Tagged Command Queing on this bus? Will SATA CD-RW drives use more 'native' support than scsi-emulation?
As far as I know people not interested in working, retired people, homeless bums not looking for jobs, and housewives are all not considered in the employment rate because they don't need or want jobs. The number of unemployed people will remain the same as people come off UI, but the number of people recieving benefits will decrease. The unemployment rate will not 'artificially decrease' in this case, as adds and drops from payrolls are reported to the federal government and used for such statistics.
The actual percent of humans without jobs in America I would guess to be about 30%, whic is a random number off the top of my head, but no matter what it is it will decreas soon as more and more old people start dropping out of the work force and live much longer lives.
Woah! If it weren't for the minimum wage there would be companies paying folks WAY less than it costs to live. I think overall the minimum wage does a lot more good for us than harm. There are a few instances, like yours, where it can interfere; but overall it's very important that workers have some basic rights to get paid enough to eat and rent shelter.
As for the hoardes of people kept out of jobs by the minimum wage, that's bullshit. Unemployment is 6%, and the economy is 'bad' right now. The vast majority of those 6% are either in between jobs temporarily or WAY too stupid/deformed to hold jobs for long (you know what I'm talking about), or mentally disabled. Saying that the minimum wage is cutting so far in to the bottom line of companies that they cannot hire more people is ridiculous considering that in those pay ranges most of the corporation's expenses are not on front-line labor. If Dinky Donuts down the street makes $1200 in sales today (which is normal according to the employees there) and labor costs are $315 for the day (3 employees, 15 hours) then the majority of the money goes elsewhere and front-line labor costs aren't that much of a problem compared to back-end costs.
I applaud concerned citizens doing whatever they can to expose major flaws in the security of their data. Insurance companies should offer prizes to hackers and theives who crack the systems they underwrite. Imagine how secure your data would be after a year if Joe Hacker was offered cash to get his hands on it! There would be a mad scramble to secure systems and it would re-ignite the tech industry like Y2K did.
Really? I walked out of a large dentist's office after a service call with four 4GB drives of patient data just by saying "Can I keep your _OLD_ drives? I'm an enthusiast and these have hobbyist value!" The doctor told me to have fun with them. I trashed them after they sat in my rooom untouched for months, but I'm quite sure I could walk into pretty much any office with a computer-service company shirt on and a Compaq box and say "I'm here from JackYouTech to do a minor update to the servers, Please lead me to the closet." And successfully rip off the data.
Re:Okay ... a few things that really bug me here .
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It was used by the citizens.
When the government 'wastes' money it creates jobs and wealth. The philosophy that we'd all be better off if Uncle Sam would stop taxing us is sort of foolish. Uncle sam is redistibuting the wealth one way or another, I'd rather have him funding advanced research like this than feeding Ethiopians or putting more fat lazy cops on the street. Those 5.1 million dollars were put into the hands of honest, hardworking engineers and machinists. I think Uncle Sam mismanages his money a lot, but there's fat that needs to get trimmed WAY before they start cutting into innovative research like this. The whole thing is sort of like the 'give a fish or teach to fish' debate; you can fork over loot to feed people who don't produce much for the whole of things, or you can invest the money into research that may or may not accomplish something AND will pay the mortgages of many people who DO produce their share of the GDP. It sounds like an asshole concept, but it actually staves off having a peasant-class population.
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I'm sorry, but the Crusoes I've used really are dogs. I'd take a 400MHz PowerPC 750 over anything Transmeta offers.
Benchmarks be damned, PPCs just FEEL snappier.
I've found that you can keep them cooler by turning on CPU cycling and CPU slowdown in advanced energy settings. I don't notice much performance difference, as the machine is 98% idle most of the time anyway.
I think the reason is that Apple is doing really innovative things with their UI. Apple's UI is VERY different under the hood than any other off-the-shelf OS. You note that programs are zippy, but the GUI lags, I've observed this as well. I think that you will find that the competitor's answers to Apple's underlying GUI technology will bring similar slowdowns to their respective tables.
I think my rig puts out about 1200 watts, that's an athlon 1400, a mac G3 server, and a 19-inch CRT. It's like leaving a space heater on.
The G3 and G4 are basically the same chip, the G4 has AltiVec, which makes it more suitable for DSP-like tasks and less suitable for portable (read: power issues). Most everyday tasks are about the same speed on either chip. This is under Linux. Under OSX you will notice the G4 _FEELS_ a lot zippier (because the GUI uses AltiVec in OSX), even though it performs almost the same.
You joke, but when I moved in to this apartment heating was $100/month and electric was $15. Now Electric is $75 and heating is only $50. It's slightly less cost-effective, but the convenience of always-on athlon computing is worth it, not to mention fewer noisy heater firings.
Well I'm in Rhode Island and I'm speaking of Fleet, Sovereign, and Citizen's banks. I'm working with Citizen's now and they're almost completely hard-wired. Of course the east coast is pretty dense and it might be easier to get a hard-wire here than in the sprawling west.
AFAIK almost all but the lowliest ATMs have been moved to frame relay systems because these days a customer can't wait 30 seconds for the dialup to home base to go through. I'd be prety pissed if I swiped my card and it took 30 seconds to validate. This I gather from working with the ATM team at a major regional bank.
You don't get it, on the -LARGE- scale (also known as the big picture) the increase in efficiencey HELPS us. If all the steel mills and farms in America went under because they can't cut it we'd be much better off, and so would the countries that inherit the industries. We would get cheaper goods and they would get jobs, also the American consumer would have more money to invest in our own borders on things like new computers, homes, cars, etc.
Buying a more expensive U.S.-made product is actually harmful in the long run, you're circumventing the market economics that help us all.
AFAIK the way our entire economic system works is that when someone can do something cheaper puts the more expensive provider out of business it's better for all involved EXCEPT those who lose the jobs.
The overall effect on the economy is positive for both ends.
Think about how many occupations have been put under in the last 200 years, and how much it lowers the COST of obtaining goods and services. Computers themselves put a hell of a lot of people out of work, but the economy as a whole greatly benefitted from this rise in efficiencey. We should welcome the loss of jobs to robots, machines, and other countries, it's the best way to complete our transition to a services based economy and to increase our standard of living as a whole [world community].
Also remember that $2/day is GREAT pay in most of the rest of the world, it buys a home, and food, and clothing for people who otherwise wouldn't have it. The money saved by the U.S. based companies goes into capital expenditures here, which have a great effect on our economy.
I quit a few months ago. Occasionally I 'cheat' when I go out, but the next day I'm terrible and all I can think of is sweet, sweet nicotine. These would let me smoke every now-and-then without the nasty addictive fallout.
I really LIKE smoking, I dig the taste and smell and I wish I could get it occasionally without getting all irritable.
You could use 4,200 RPM drives for recording compressed video and there would be no difference. A standard laptop drive can be 80GB these days, with an 8MB buffer for when the thing does have to readjust for shocks. I think an IBM TravelStar 80 would hold up fine (they have a 'hardened' model for using in more strenuous applications).
Wasn't XFree86 4.3.0 supposed to out at he expo? I know it's close, but could somebody on the 'inside' let us know about where in the release process you are?
The XFree86 website is intentionally cryptic about such plans to keep people like me from -expecting- it on such-and-such a date.
Let's hear from people in the know!
I'd feel like a fool for not patching a system that leaves a wide-open hole that allows anyone over the net to run binaries on my machine without authentication! It's a wide-open bug, with patches available for 6 months!
It's wrong to steal from people, but if you leave your door unlocked all the time I feel no pain for you when your shit all gets stolen.
I always respected that they kept the UI really smooth and mac-like. Office is a complete eyesore, every new version has three more stupid panels encroaching on your productive space. I still log into my Mac-On-Linux install and crank away with ClarisWorks 4.1 when I don't intend to share my documents. The responsiveness of the apps was also amazing. Piping Claris over an X connection on my MOL box is faster than running OpenOffice or MSOffice2000 locally.
I would just SHARE the directory from a single machine running SAMBA or win2k server. Think, you could upgrade everyone at once just by updating ONE install! Make most of the files read-only and roll it out to a few people you know will be 'cool' first and let them test the implementation for you. Also, turn on QuickStart for ALL users so loading moz over the network doesn't slow things down too much or hose the server.
Agreed! The PC BIOS is really lame compared to Open Firmware. Someone oughtta release an OF x86 system and see how the market takes it. I think it would be a boon in the server and workstation markets.
LOL! I had the same thing, from an old server at a medical center, giant 2GB SCSI-II drives full of insurance info, dental records, and who knows what else. I tossed the drives after a while because I didn't want the bad karma, but all I had to do was ask for them, they were willfully handed over to me by a doctor when I was 17.
$5 million could be peanuts compared to the overall savings a superior 'back button' technology could bring us. Steve Jobs had the right idea when he pushed the original Mac development team to shave second off the boot time; he said every second times every boot times every user would save millions of seconds/dollars in the end.
How good is SATA support in Linux these days? Can I get a SATA card and expect to actually use it soon? Will Linux support Tagged Command Queing on this bus? Will SATA CD-RW drives use more 'native' support than scsi-emulation?
As far as I know people not interested in working, retired people, homeless bums not looking for jobs, and housewives are all not considered in the employment rate because they don't need or want jobs. The number of unemployed people will remain the same as people come off UI, but the number of people recieving benefits will decrease. The unemployment rate will not 'artificially decrease' in this case, as adds and drops from payrolls are reported to the federal government and used for such statistics.
The actual percent of humans without jobs in America I would guess to be about 30%, whic is a random number off the top of my head, but no matter what it is it will decreas soon as more and more old people start dropping out of the work force and live much longer lives.
Woah! If it weren't for the minimum wage there would be companies paying folks WAY less than it costs to live. I think overall the minimum wage does a lot more good for us than harm. There are a few instances, like yours, where it can interfere; but overall it's very important that workers have some basic rights to get paid enough to eat and rent shelter.
As for the hoardes of people kept out of jobs by the minimum wage, that's bullshit. Unemployment is 6%, and the economy is 'bad' right now. The vast majority of those 6% are either in between jobs temporarily or WAY too stupid/deformed to hold jobs for long (you know what I'm talking about), or mentally disabled. Saying that the minimum wage is cutting so far in to the bottom line of companies that they cannot hire more people is ridiculous considering that in those pay ranges most of the corporation's expenses are not on front-line labor. If Dinky Donuts down the street makes $1200 in sales today (which is normal according to the employees there) and labor costs are $315 for the day (3 employees, 15 hours) then the majority of the money goes elsewhere and front-line labor costs aren't that much of a problem compared to back-end costs.
I applaud concerned citizens doing whatever they can to expose major flaws in the security of their data. Insurance companies should offer prizes to hackers and theives who crack the systems they underwrite. Imagine how secure your data would be after a year if Joe Hacker was offered cash to get his hands on it! There would be a mad scramble to secure systems and it would re-ignite the tech industry like Y2K did.
Really? I walked out of a large dentist's office after a service call with four 4GB drives of patient data just by saying "Can I keep your _OLD_ drives? I'm an enthusiast and these have hobbyist value!" The doctor told me to have fun with them. I trashed them after they sat in my rooom untouched for months, but I'm quite sure I could walk into pretty much any office with a computer-service company shirt on and a Compaq box and say "I'm here from JackYouTech to do a minor update to the servers, Please lead me to the closet." And successfully rip off the data.
It was used by the citizens.
When the government 'wastes' money it creates jobs and wealth. The philosophy that we'd all be better off if Uncle Sam would stop taxing us is sort of foolish. Uncle sam is redistibuting the wealth one way or another, I'd rather have him funding advanced research like this than feeding Ethiopians or putting more fat lazy cops on the street. Those 5.1 million dollars were put into the hands of honest, hardworking engineers and machinists.
I think Uncle Sam mismanages his money a lot, but there's fat that needs to get trimmed WAY before they start cutting into innovative research like this. The whole thing is sort of like the 'give a fish or teach to fish' debate; you can fork over loot to feed people who don't produce much for the whole of things, or you can invest the money into research that may or may not accomplish something AND will pay the mortgages of many people who DO produce their share of the GDP. It sounds like an asshole concept, but it actually staves off having a peasant-class population.