Yeah, like real life? Just like those tests which measure "aptitude" and ask whether or not you would like to become a journalist, singer, etc, but have nothing to do with the modern age. I would definitely like to be a computer scientist or a programmer, but they never ask that. Not saying you...but whoever feels they can't achieve something just because of some IQ test should not be so reliant upon them because it is always someone else, not you. Another useless net which catches most of the fish but leaves the best to be snatched up by a pick. You are that person who can be what ever life dictates or you can dictate your life. Now if I was the head of a large corporation who forgot how to hire people but did not have the time/money/manpower to hire an individual, I might rely upon those tests, but if I were an individual, I would not judge myself too harshly upon those tests.
What was his connection to facebook anyways? Did he provide pallets by which to ship facebook products? How did he contribute to the development of facebook? Does he have any connection at all? As far as I know from "The Social Network" Eduardo was the one who provided the up-front money to host the servers, Zuckerberg did the programming and the V's provided an initial "idea". What else is there left? Was this guy even on campus? How in the heck did Zuckergerg meet him? On kijiji?
The first few lines of the announcement make it clear that it is for "the musicians". So I will compose a song at age 15 and reap the benefits until age 85? I hope I can still hear properly then. Way to go! Making it easier for "the musicians".
I just want to add to those out there: Microsoft doesn't have a mandate to be the latest and greatest thing out there for every single device and every single platform. Get over it Microsoft. Focus on something you are good at instead of trying to be jack of all trages and a master of none. You did it with operating systems. But Bill Gates premise was that you could produce copies of something that took relatively little to make. Now with cell phones, the cost is in the software as the hardware is less expensive. Also, people have got better at producing operating systems and because they can be created over time and get better that way, the market for even a smaller priced operating system is going to be going away. Find something new, be good at it, and realize that economies change with new technology. Now if we could get the RIAA and MPAA to realize that! To all the fanbois.
Besides all the integration with other Microsoft products...let's divert this discussion to if we actually need to use Microsoft products. Usually it is all or nothing. XBox live, Office, Zune are them. And what of "The Hubs concept of deep integration?". Also I thought that Windows Phone 7 was a more or less universal operating system for cell phones. What is preventing some other operating system that is universal from having that same button for photos? Are you talking about a specific model of phone that no other manufacture has? Same thing with the standard FM tuner. Is that exclusive to Win 7 phones? And what gave you the insight to predict that Windows 7 will catch up with such time? To me you are portraying it as a different sort of beast which makes me wonder if it is really far behind either. Maybe the reason it is behind it because it doesn't have market share and because it doesn't have market share it is behind. Kind of ironic when the same reason Linux is behind in desktop usage is for the same reason eh? Enjoy.
I was gonna go to the moon
Until I got high
I was gonna go up real soon
But then I got high
NASA is still messed up
And I know why
It's the congressmen
Who are the ones who are high
I was going to go to class
Before I got high
They could have cheated
And let the Ares plans pass
But I got high
Were letting the Chinese pass us
And I know why
Cause' I got high cause I got high
Cause' I got highigh
I sensible plan was taken apart
Before I got high
That The Republicans were not gonna support
But then I got high
The Chinese took our paychecks
And I know why
Cause' I got high cause I got highigh
I was gonna run for office
But then Obama got elected
He was gonna try to stop this mess
But I was high
Now we're an economic parapalegic
And I know why
Cause' I got high Cause' I got high
We were gonna beat the Russians too
But then I got high
I was gonna beat the Chinese too
But then I got high
Now I'm messing up and I know why
Cause' I got high Cause I got high
Obama's focused on protecting ip law
Because the country is high
I follow Joseph Biden
And I know why
Cause' I g1ot high Cause I got high
Now we're writing fake cheques
And I know why
Cause I got high Cause I got high
I'm gonna stop singing this song
And if I sell one copy
I'll be suprised
In fact it's the astronauts
Who won't fly
They won't get high
They aren't the one's on drugs
And they will never get highigh
Or if the companies have enough information, will they have need to sell it because they can already become the next big thing(tm)? If they do sell it, does that mean that they are just not capable of using it than another company would? Are we destined to have one or few giant companies that have access to the majority of our information and use it in a future yet predetermined way? In this day and age(Internet), are companies moulded around information, or is information centred around companies? Do we really have expectations of privacy when companies can exchange information like buying stocks? We could all one day have the information via increasingly cheaper storage devices, but what will be the impact of everybody with access? Will advances in science make all the information more tolerable and useable? Could science and information be used together make ourselves or our creations better by unlocking the secrets of life? Or could the information be held or used by a select few to gain advantage over others? In order to properly manage society, it will have to become more tolerable and everyday problems should be seen as scientific problems and the ones who become more tolerable will advance further. So long to "survival of the fittest" and hello to "science of the fittest". See my sig.
It is because we have legislation in the works (Bill C-32) that the US government, er music and film industry, thinks will help give them more money. So far, it is called the "DMCA of Canada" for good reason. i.e. restriction of breaking digital locks for any reason, and although the Conservative government says it is willing to make modifications based on the input of Canadians, basically it has ignored the input given last summer by thousands of Canadians through "Copyright Consultations" and is pushing ahead. The Liberals (not a swear word here) have proposed modifications such as an Internet levy to pay for artists, however almost none of the money that the CD-levy has actually not gone to the artists themselves. Here is the Bill, and not is is a lot longer and complex that the original law that we have to today. Our Heritage Minister branded us as "not wanting to modernize Canadian law", because most Canadians who know about the law know that it does not need changing. In fact parts of the Canadian government seem to go lock-step with their US counterparts, with both Prentice (former Industry Minister) and Clement (current Industry Minister) being sent to the US to meet with US government officials about this law as one of the first things they have done when they took office. So to the US who is helping to introduce a law that most Canadians feel is unnecessary: "Go shove it".
Give me the option of blocking all of Microsoft partner's ads while keeping Google's and I will consider installing it, not being mandated by the operating system's pre-installed browser. Who needs a content filter on their PC?
Not quite correct in your BFD. 100 users from Google went home and tried various keyword searches. Of course they are not going to illustrate every one in the article. I don't even have to have more information to come up with one. How about something like: mbzrxpgiys. From the original article. http://searchengineland.com/google-bing-is-cheating-copying-our-search-results-62914 . We must now ask ourselves if Microsoft is really adding anything of value to the Internet with this harvesting feature. Suppose that Google did not exist and users were feeding from Bing into Bing. All we would get is search results that people got simply by clicking the most appealing one by inspection at the top. Is that innovation?
In this fictional example it was assumed that there was only one company: RIAA Oil. So you can choose from A. RIAA Oil or B. RIAA Oil as Small Guy Oil Company number 21 was put out of business.
I considered developing for android, until I found out it was in Java and the fact that you agree to hold harmless and indemnify Google should you infringe on someone's patent rights who happens to be litigious. That's right, you pay the legal costs. From the android licence.
12. Indemnification
12.1 To the maximum extent permitted by law, you agree to defend, indemnify and hold harmless Google, its affiliates and their respective directors, officers, employees and agents from and against any and all claims, actions, suits or proceedings, as well as any and all losses, liabilities, damages, costs and expenses (including reasonable attorneys fees) arising out of or accruing from (a) your use of the SDK, (b) any application you develop on the SDK that infringes any copyright, trademark, trade secret, trade dress, patent or other intellectual property right of any person or defames any person or violates their rights of publicity or privacy, and (c) any non-compliance by you with this License Agreement.
I am curious...why are scalpels, scissors, retractors, emergency rooms, doctors' and nurses' wages, etc...costing so much? I.T. hasn't become so expensive either I suppose. I don't see them to be as difficult to implement as an F-35, aircraft carriers, modern computing systems and avionics. If we can't even take care of ourselves let alone equip a military, isn't that saying something else. In Canada we are having the same crisis. No one seems to know where the money is going, but it is going somewhere. Please enlighten..
...A young scientist got it bad cause they're massless -
They have the authority to construct a neutrino observatory -
F*** that shit cause I ain't the one -
To detect a neutrino coming out of the sun...
So the playstation is capable of running Linux. My question is: what secret operating system has Sony preinstalled on the Playstation use to run all of its games? Did they build it from scratch? Was IBM involved because I never saw or heard about the kind of tools and emulator the operating system was originally designed on. Did they start from scratch on that too? It would take a lot of research and development to use the cell processor that is in the playstation. Anyone as curious as I am? I would have to think that it was based on an already existing operating system. Could it be Linux, Tron, any ideas?
...that making money involves contacting a local MP. It is my theory, but has not been proven, that the recent spate of government bankruptcies i.e. Ireland, have more to do with corporate handouts and low corporate taxes than it does with providing health care and services such as roads o the public. [ Whey have countries such as France, which has had good social programs in place existed for the most part of the last 40 years and now why is this issue raising it's head?] After all Canada has had all of these in place, and yet we are one of the better off countries without as much debt. When in fact people get on the radio and talk about governments losing money because of health care, and then when asked why Canada is in pretty good shape, their answer is "better managed financial institutions". Giving more money to corporations for things such as the Internet without no real gain seems like more of the same but now instead of just giving tax breaks consumers are actually enticed to pay more for their Internet connection - a more active form of corporate welfare.
The Tsubame 2.0 came loaded with Windows, naturally. They decided to try it out for a few compute cycles but found they needed better applications than Office in order to complete their super computing projects. They then promptly wiped the whole thing and installed Linux. I wonder if they have ever gone back since? I have heard that Office has not been optimized to run on GPU's and because of Windows limitations, the thousands of users that would be using the super computer could not be fully supported using Windows.
Yeah, both articles linked say basically exactly the same thing and the second one does not point to anything new that was said by scientists that the Obama administration is muzzling scientists. Read the second article linked: all it basically says is that an article was misrepresented by moving paragraphs around. Sound familiar? That is because it was the same sort of stuff from the first linked article. I agree with the parent. Anybody got a diff? Also the slashdot story from a couple of days ago is light on details too: The summary says that Obama says that offshoring fears are unwarranted has NO quotes or mention from the President that he actually said this. I guess it is obvious. No quotation at all. Here is TA. Some actual meat to the articles would be warranted with actual analysis of what is going on would be appreciated.
How do the students in the CS program in which you attend(ed) handle group projects? I think that most Universities have group projects and at some point or another they have to use the tools. Or do you mean open source tools. At the University I attended, way back we were using RCS, then CVS and then subversion. I am fortunate to have went to a CS department which emphasized the use of open source tools and right now I believe the students use Linux and check in their projects using a tool which would allow them to submit a version of their project to be graded and encourage incremental development just as long as they flag that version as their final one. Good memories U of A.
I think it is a calculated giving up. They know that the money is behind prioritizing traffic and zoning off the Internet and then charging extra to get through each neck along the way. The way I see it, is that this is a brilliant move if accepted by those in power. Prioritized network = one where everybody's connection is slowed to determine who goes less slower. open network = no preference over traffic and as fast as hardware allows. Now if we merge the two what do we get? A chance for someone to connect to the open one which will clearly be superior since it will cost less (meaning it will not be charged more and provide more bang for the dollar). Once people see the benefits or rather the downsides of a closed network, their will be an incentive to use the open Internet. The only concern I have is: who will pay for it? Will the "closed" network having more money upgrade their services although backward and slow so that the "open" Internet cannot compete? I still think the FCC has to get involved and specify that common lines to all should adhere to the principles of Net Neutrality. Anyways looking at it this way gets those "let the market decide" and "creationists should be given equal opportunity" types eat their own words since after all having two is a choice that consumers will have to make.
..are underway in the US. But judging from the list of Indian investment in America or Indian purchasing of American technology none on the list will be part of the new effort that the US needs in order to compete with a lesser reliance on fossil fuels. Gas and steam turbines, a variety of aircraft that use fossil fuels, diesel locomotive manufacturing and a gas powered motorcycle plant are ok for now but use your imagination people and see what future technology will be required in say 10 years down the road. I look forward to hearing about these technological advances from the US and not only China. (based on what little I have heard about Chinese efforts in clean technology or "less polluting" technology for those who look at it that way..)
So what do all these politicians have to hide that they need the power to censor "speech" on the Internet. Or are they just preparing the way for when their kids get into power so they will have an easier time or perhaps bury the history of their actions because as u know, history will not be kind to these old crufts.
Not allowing citizens inside the country to buy products from outside. Sounds a lot like some other regime in the past. 1961 called and Berlin wants its wall back. Now here comes the troll part for which I am not trying to be a troll but just stating that the U.S. citizen has an incredible debt load to handle: American's won't have money to buy the drugs. Especially the expensive ones. Who will stop American's from going into further debt to pay for these drugs. Oh yeah, that was what the health care bill was for....
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Yeah, like real life? Just like those tests which measure "aptitude" and ask whether or not you would like to become a journalist, singer, etc, but have nothing to do with the modern age. I would definitely like to be a computer scientist or a programmer, but they never ask that. Not saying you...but whoever feels they can't achieve something just because of some IQ test should not be so reliant upon them because it is always someone else, not you. Another useless net which catches most of the fish but leaves the best to be snatched up by a pick. You are that person who can be what ever life dictates or you can dictate your life. Now if I was the head of a large corporation who forgot how to hire people but did not have the time/money/manpower to hire an individual, I might rely upon those tests, but if I were an individual, I would not judge myself too harshly upon those tests.
...then use the DMCA. Instant justice.
What was his connection to facebook anyways? Did he provide pallets by which to ship facebook products? How did he contribute to the development of facebook? Does he have any connection at all? As far as I know from "The Social Network" Eduardo was the one who provided the up-front money to host the servers, Zuckerberg did the programming and the V's provided an initial "idea". What else is there left? Was this guy even on campus? How in the heck did Zuckergerg meet him? On kijiji?
The first few lines of the announcement make it clear that it is for "the musicians". So I will compose a song at age 15 and reap the benefits until age 85? I hope I can still hear properly then. Way to go! Making it easier for "the musicians".
People aren't buying my music.
I just want to add to those out there: Microsoft doesn't have a mandate to be the latest and greatest thing out there for every single device and every single platform. Get over it Microsoft. Focus on something you are good at instead of trying to be jack of all trages and a master of none. You did it with operating systems. But Bill Gates premise was that you could produce copies of something that took relatively little to make. Now with cell phones, the cost is in the software as the hardware is less expensive. Also, people have got better at producing operating systems and because they can be created over time and get better that way, the market for even a smaller priced operating system is going to be going away. Find something new, be good at it, and realize that economies change with new technology. Now if we could get the RIAA and MPAA to realize that! To all the fanbois.
Besides all the integration with other Microsoft products...let's divert this discussion to if we actually need to use Microsoft products. Usually it is all or nothing. XBox live, Office, Zune are them. And what of "The Hubs concept of deep integration?". Also I thought that Windows Phone 7 was a more or less universal operating system for cell phones. What is preventing some other operating system that is universal from having that same button for photos? Are you talking about a specific model of phone that no other manufacture has? Same thing with the standard FM tuner. Is that exclusive to Win 7 phones? And what gave you the insight to predict that Windows 7 will catch up with such time? To me you are portraying it as a different sort of beast which makes me wonder if it is really far behind either. Maybe the reason it is behind it because it doesn't have market share and because it doesn't have market share it is behind. Kind of ironic when the same reason Linux is behind in desktop usage is for the same reason eh? Enjoy.
Coopyright Afronaught
I was gonna go to the moon
Until I got high
I was gonna go up real soon
But then I got high
NASA is still messed up
And I know why
It's the congressmen
Who are the ones who are high
I was going to go to class
Before I got high
They could have cheated
And let the Ares plans pass
But I got high
Were letting the Chinese pass us
And I know why
Cause' I got high cause I got high
Cause' I got highigh
I sensible plan was taken apart
Before I got high
That The Republicans were not gonna support
But then I got high
The Chinese took our paychecks
And I know why
Cause' I got high cause I got highigh
I was gonna run for office
But then Obama got elected
He was gonna try to stop this mess
But I was high
Now we're an economic parapalegic
And I know why
Cause' I got high Cause' I got high
We were gonna beat the Russians too
But then I got high
I was gonna beat the Chinese too
But then I got high
Now I'm messing up and I know why
Cause' I got high Cause I got high
Obama's focused on protecting ip law
Because the country is high
I follow Joseph Biden
And I know why
Cause' I g1ot high Cause I got high
Now we're writing fake cheques
And I know why
Cause I got high Cause I got high
I'm gonna stop singing this song
And if I sell one copy
I'll be suprised
In fact it's the astronauts
Who won't fly
They won't get high
They aren't the one's on drugs
And they will never get highigh
Or if the companies have enough information, will they have need to sell it because they can already become the next big thing(tm)? If they do sell it, does that mean that they are just not capable of using it than another company would? Are we destined to have one or few giant companies that have access to the majority of our information and use it in a future yet predetermined way? In this day and age(Internet), are companies moulded around information, or is information centred around companies? Do we really have expectations of privacy when companies can exchange information like buying stocks? We could all one day have the information via increasingly cheaper storage devices, but what will be the impact of everybody with access? Will advances in science make all the information more tolerable and useable? Could science and information be used together make ourselves or our creations better by unlocking the secrets of life? Or could the information be held or used by a select few to gain advantage over others? In order to properly manage society, it will have to become more tolerable and everyday problems should be seen as scientific problems and the ones who become more tolerable will advance further. So long to "survival of the fittest" and hello to "science of the fittest". See my sig.
It is because we have legislation in the works (Bill C-32) that the US government, er music and film industry, thinks will help give them more money. So far, it is called the "DMCA of Canada" for good reason. i.e. restriction of breaking digital locks for any reason, and although the Conservative government says it is willing to make modifications based on the input of Canadians, basically it has ignored the input given last summer by thousands of Canadians through "Copyright Consultations" and is pushing ahead. The Liberals (not a swear word here) have proposed modifications such as an Internet levy to pay for artists, however almost none of the money that the CD-levy has actually not gone to the artists themselves. Here is the Bill, and not is is a lot longer and complex that the original law that we have to today. Our Heritage Minister branded us as "not wanting to modernize Canadian law", because most Canadians who know about the law know that it does not need changing. In fact parts of the Canadian government seem to go lock-step with their US counterparts, with both Prentice (former Industry Minister) and Clement (current Industry Minister) being sent to the US to meet with US government officials about this law as one of the first things they have done when they took office. So to the US who is helping to introduce a law that most Canadians feel is unnecessary: "Go shove it".
Give me the option of blocking all of Microsoft partner's ads while keeping Google's and I will consider installing it, not being mandated by the operating system's pre-installed browser. Who needs a content filter on their PC?
Not quite correct in your BFD. 100 users from Google went home and tried various keyword searches. Of course they are not going to illustrate every one in the article. I don't even have to have more information to come up with one. How about something like: mbzrxpgiys. From the original article. http://searchengineland.com/google-bing-is-cheating-copying-our-search-results-62914 . We must now ask ourselves if Microsoft is really adding anything of value to the Internet with this harvesting feature. Suppose that Google did not exist and users were feeding from Bing into Bing. All we would get is search results that people got simply by clicking the most appealing one by inspection at the top. Is that innovation?
In this fictional example it was assumed that there was only one company: RIAA Oil. So you can choose from A. RIAA Oil or B. RIAA Oil as Small Guy Oil Company number 21 was put out of business.
12. Indemnification 12.1 To the maximum extent permitted by law, you agree to defend, indemnify and hold harmless Google, its affiliates and their respective directors, officers, employees and agents from and against any and all claims, actions, suits or proceedings, as well as any and all losses, liabilities, damages, costs and expenses (including reasonable attorneys fees) arising out of or accruing from (a) your use of the SDK, (b) any application you develop on the SDK that infringes any copyright, trademark, trade secret, trade dress, patent or other intellectual property right of any person or defames any person or violates their rights of publicity or privacy, and (c) any non-compliance by you with this License Agreement.
I am curious...why are scalpels, scissors, retractors, emergency rooms, doctors' and nurses' wages, etc...costing so much? I.T. hasn't become so expensive either I suppose. I don't see them to be as difficult to implement as an F-35, aircraft carriers, modern computing systems and avionics. If we can't even take care of ourselves let alone equip a military, isn't that saying something else. In Canada we are having the same crisis. No one seems to know where the money is going, but it is going somewhere. Please enlighten..
...A young scientist got it bad cause they're massless - They have the authority to construct a neutrino observatory - F*** that shit cause I ain't the one - To detect a neutrino coming out of the sun...
So the playstation is capable of running Linux. My question is: what secret operating system has Sony preinstalled on the Playstation use to run all of its games? Did they build it from scratch? Was IBM involved because I never saw or heard about the kind of tools and emulator the operating system was originally designed on. Did they start from scratch on that too? It would take a lot of research and development to use the cell processor that is in the playstation. Anyone as curious as I am? I would have to think that it was based on an already existing operating system. Could it be Linux, Tron, any ideas?
...that making money involves contacting a local MP. It is my theory, but has not been proven, that the recent spate of government bankruptcies i.e. Ireland, have more to do with corporate handouts and low corporate taxes than it does with providing health care and services such as roads o the public. [ Whey have countries such as France, which has had good social programs in place existed for the most part of the last 40 years and now why is this issue raising it's head?] After all Canada has had all of these in place, and yet we are one of the better off countries without as much debt. When in fact people get on the radio and talk about governments losing money because of health care, and then when asked why Canada is in pretty good shape, their answer is "better managed financial institutions". Giving more money to corporations for things such as the Internet without no real gain seems like more of the same but now instead of just giving tax breaks consumers are actually enticed to pay more for their Internet connection - a more active form of corporate welfare.
The Tsubame 2.0 came loaded with Windows, naturally. They decided to try it out for a few compute cycles but found they needed better applications than Office in order to complete their super computing projects. They then promptly wiped the whole thing and installed Linux. I wonder if they have ever gone back since? I have heard that Office has not been optimized to run on GPU's and because of Windows limitations, the thousands of users that would be using the super computer could not be fully supported using Windows.
Yeah, both articles linked say basically exactly the same thing and the second one does not point to anything new that was said by scientists that the Obama administration is muzzling scientists. Read the second article linked: all it basically says is that an article was misrepresented by moving paragraphs around. Sound familiar? That is because it was the same sort of stuff from the first linked article. I agree with the parent. Anybody got a diff? Also the slashdot story from a couple of days ago is light on details too: The summary says that Obama says that offshoring fears are unwarranted has NO quotes or mention from the President that he actually said this. I guess it is obvious. No quotation at all. Here is TA. Some actual meat to the articles would be warranted with actual analysis of what is going on would be appreciated.
How do the students in the CS program in which you attend(ed) handle group projects? I think that most Universities have group projects and at some point or another they have to use the tools. Or do you mean open source tools. At the University I attended, way back we were using RCS, then CVS and then subversion. I am fortunate to have went to a CS department which emphasized the use of open source tools and right now I believe the students use Linux and check in their projects using a tool which would allow them to submit a version of their project to be graded and encourage incremental development just as long as they flag that version as their final one. Good memories U of A.
I think it is a calculated giving up. They know that the money is behind prioritizing traffic and zoning off the Internet and then charging extra to get through each neck along the way. The way I see it, is that this is a brilliant move if accepted by those in power. Prioritized network = one where everybody's connection is slowed to determine who goes less slower. open network = no preference over traffic and as fast as hardware allows. Now if we merge the two what do we get? A chance for someone to connect to the open one which will clearly be superior since it will cost less (meaning it will not be charged more and provide more bang for the dollar). Once people see the benefits or rather the downsides of a closed network, their will be an incentive to use the open Internet. The only concern I have is: who will pay for it? Will the "closed" network having more money upgrade their services although backward and slow so that the "open" Internet cannot compete? I still think the FCC has to get involved and specify that common lines to all should adhere to the principles of Net Neutrality. Anyways looking at it this way gets those "let the market decide" and "creationists should be given equal opportunity" types eat their own words since after all having two is a choice that consumers will have to make.
..are underway in the US. But judging from the list of Indian investment in America or Indian purchasing of American technology none on the list will be part of the new effort that the US needs in order to compete with a lesser reliance on fossil fuels. Gas and steam turbines, a variety of aircraft that use fossil fuels, diesel locomotive manufacturing and a gas powered motorcycle plant are ok for now but use your imagination people and see what future technology will be required in say 10 years down the road. I look forward to hearing about these technological advances from the US and not only China. (based on what little I have heard about Chinese efforts in clean technology or "less polluting" technology for those who look at it that way..)
So what do all these politicians have to hide that they need the power to censor "speech" on the Internet. Or are they just preparing the way for when their kids get into power so they will have an easier time or perhaps bury the history of their actions because as u know, history will not be kind to these old crufts.
Not allowing citizens inside the country to buy products from outside. Sounds a lot like some other regime in the past. 1961 called and Berlin wants its wall back. Now here comes the troll part for which I am not trying to be a troll but just stating that the U.S. citizen has an incredible debt load to handle: American's won't have money to buy the drugs. Especially the expensive ones. Who will stop American's from going into further debt to pay for these drugs. Oh yeah, that was what the health care bill was for....