Ummmm, that isn't even constitutional. The accused has a right to confront their accuser. Do you really think the accuser is going to keep quiet about who the victim is? Doubt it, unless they give him some real incentive not to. Either way, with lawyers, relatives, friends etc, the true story is going to leak out somehow. If the FBI *REALLY* thinks this is going to remain secret, they have more than a few problems...
Ya know, sometimes slashdot really pisses me off. I submitted the following and it got rejected:
-----BEGIN------- 2002-10-25 07:19:11 TacLUG delegation to visit Congressman Adam Smith (articles,news) (rejected)
My name is Chuck Wolber and I am the president of the Tacoma Linux Users Group. I also happen to live in Adam Smith's voting district. We have secured an appointment to see him in person on Monday October 28, 2002 at 11:30am regarding his letter on the GPL as it applies to commercial use of government funded "innovation". We are trying to prepare as much as possible for this visit and wish to solicit the viewpoint of the greater OSS community. Our plan so far is to clarify and correct any misconceptions he may have while at the same time giving him a fair shot at stating his position for the record. What approach do you believe is the most effective way to get the point across that the GPL stimulates innovation rather than hurts it? ------END------
So anyway, we going to talk to da man himself to get things straightened out. If you have any input or angles you think we should consider, please feel free to start a dialog below...
This represents a program. It would be interesting to see how far one could take the paradigm by writing an interpreter for this diagram. What would it be like to code this way (obvious VB trolls excluded)? I've always thought that what makes the upper echelon of coders great is that they can visualize their code in a similar manner.
What is amazing is not the part about the data density, but the part about the way this memory is written. It is done by adding and removing individual groups of atoms. This means that, unlike today's hard drives, it should be possible to completely and totally delete data from the medium.
That's about the dumbest reasoning I have heard in a long time for not doing something. Ever hear of civil disobedience? It was illegal for a lot of things to happen, such as the Boston Tea party, but if they hadn't have happened you wouldn't be living in the free country you're living in now.
I won't speak for how history will bear this one out, but I suspect that if there was ever a case for showing the public what the RIAA wanted to do to them, this is as good a demonstration as any.
All I have to say, having read the entire bill, is that this is effectively an end run around my constitutional right to due process. Sure, they put in the caveat about having to notify the justice department, as if that's going to be effective.
Actually I'd welcome something like this so I could optimize my commute. I've been looking for a good way to track details of my commute. I'd love to use that data with some sort of genetic algorithm to help me determine when the best times to be coming to and from work are. Excepting accidents, construction, and dumbshit drivers who don't realize the left lane is not for cruising at 5mph under the speed limit, I figure I could shave 10 - 20% of the time off my daily commute. Over a years time, that really adds up.
Moderators: WARNING This post may seem inflamatory or trollish. If it seems that way, you probably didn't understand it.
Hemos: I really wish you'd refrain from telling us how you feel about the article on the front page. If you have something to say, why not post a comment?
Two of our developers just came back from a.NET training session and were wowed beyond belief. (Note: This session was put on by a private company, not Microsoft). These guys were hardcore Linux/Java hackers working on our latest web based application. What changed their mind? It was the tools. The code had *NOTHING* to do with it as far as they were concerned. I told them there were OSS alternatives that pretty much replicated all of the.NET functionality. They still shook their heads saying it's the tools they were introduced to that made the real difference, not the code. One small example they used was that the MSFT tools allow you to backtrace a transaction all the way from your HTML front end clear on in to the database with a simple click of a button. There were a lot of other examples, but that was the one that stood out in my mind the most. It was the fact that they could write code faster and worry less about the crap that tipped the scales.
The thinking progresses with the argument that since we're developing on Microsoft tools we should be running a Microsoft OS on our servers since no two JVM's 'er I mean CLR's are alike...
The Conscience of a Hacker
by Mentor Written on January 8, 1986
Another one got caught today, it's all over the papers. "Teenager Arrested in Computer Crime Scandal", "Hacker Arrested after Bank Tampering"...
Damn kids. They're all alike.
But did you, in your three-piece psychology and 1950's technobrain, ever take a look behind the eyes of the hacker? Did you ever wonder what made him tick, what forces shaped him,what may have molded him?
I am a hacker, enter my world...
Mine is a world that begins with school. I'm smarter than most of the other kids, this crap they teach us bores me...
Damn underachiever. They're all alike.
I'm in junior high or high school. I've listened to teachers explain for the fifteenth time how to reduce a fraction. I understand it. "No, Ms. Smith, I didn't show my work. I did it in my head."
Damn kid. Probably copied it. They're all alike.
I made a discovery today. I found a computer.
Wait a second, this is cool. It does what I want it to. If it makes a mistake, it's because I screwed it up.
Not because it doesn't like me... Or feels threatened by me... Or thinks I'm a smart ass... Or doesn't like teaching and shouldn't be here...
Damn kid. All he does is play games. They're all alike.
And then it happened. A door opened to a world rushing through my phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an electronic pulse is sent out, a refuge from the day-to-day incompetencies is sought... a board is found.
"This is it... this is where I belong." I know everyone here... even if I've never met them, never talked to them, may never hear from them again... I know you all.
Damn kid. Tying up the phone line again. They're all alike.
You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed baby food at school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you did let slip through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by sadists, or ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach found us willing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the desert.
This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without paying for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and you call us criminals. We explore... and you call us criminals. We seek after knowledge... and you call us criminals.
We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals. You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals.
Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for.
I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all...
After all, we're all alike.
Copyright 1986 by Loyd Blankenship (mentor@blankenship.com). All rights reserved.
What is really amazing is that in 50-60 years, this amount of computing power will easily fit within the confines of the standard PC case (assuming such a thing even exists 50-60 years from now). Remember ENIAC...
"In related news Bell Labs has made first contact with a new race of being said to live in the fluidic space created within a new breed of fibre optics..."
"There is an advantage to teaching kids on multiple operating systems. However Unix is not at all suitable for general introductory courses."
You're wrong there. Young kids are a clean slate. Their minds are not yet warped by one way of doing things. Kids can follow instructions and will adapt to whatever you put in front of them.
Kids learn better with a lump of clay than they do with a solid block of concrete...
What I'm wondering is why no one has attempted to regenerate that heat back into usable energy. Sure, there will be significant losses, but if you end up with a net energy profit, it is probably worth it. Other potential drawbacks include increased weight, cost and complexity. However these are all things that engineers, over time, could overcome.
Technology firms did not want to testify in the hearing, did not offer input while the bill was being drafted, and have offered plenty of criticism but little helpful suggestions since, a Hollings aide said.
This, coming from the same people who refused to speak to anyone about the SSSCA (A.K.A. CBDTPA) when it was being drafted... Whatever...
Just got off the phone with my Senators, much like many others have. It only took 5 minutes at the *MOST* and went a bit like this:
1) Look up their website here 2) Go to their web page and get their local office phone number., 3) Call number. 4) Simply tell the person, "Hi, I am (your name), from (your city), (your state) and I would like to register my opposition to SB 2048".
One of them had me spell my name, and the other asked me what SB 2048 was. In case you forget, it's the CBDTPA (Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act).
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Ummmm, that isn't even constitutional. The accused has a right to confront their accuser. Do you really think the accuser is going to keep quiet about who the victim is? Doubt it, unless they give him some real incentive not to. Either way, with lawyers, relatives, friends etc, the true story is going to leak out somehow. If the FBI *REALLY* thinks this is going to remain secret, they have more than a few problems...
Ya know, sometimes slashdot really pisses me off. I submitted the following and it got rejected:
-----BEGIN-------
2002-10-25 07:19:11 TacLUG delegation to visit Congressman Adam Smith (articles,news) (rejected)
My name is Chuck Wolber and I am the president of the Tacoma Linux Users Group. I also happen to live in Adam Smith's voting district. We have secured an appointment to see him in person on Monday October 28, 2002 at 11:30am regarding his letter
on the GPL as it applies to commercial use of government funded "innovation". We are trying to prepare as much as possible for this visit and wish to solicit the viewpoint of the greater OSS community. Our plan so far is to clarify and correct any misconceptions he may have while at the same time giving him a fair shot at stating his position for the record. What approach do you believe is the most effective way to get the point across that the GPL stimulates innovation rather than hurts it?
------END------
So anyway, we going to talk to da man himself to get things straightened out. If you have any input or angles you think we should consider, please feel free to start a dialog below...
Usually it takes a few weeks for a dupe to cycle back in. Apparently chrisd hasn't been taking his daily dose of slashdot???
So do we start calling it GNU/FreeBSD too? What about GNU/Apache/Linux?
This represents a program. It would be interesting to see how far one could take the paradigm by writing an interpreter for this diagram. What would it be like to code this way (obvious VB trolls excluded)? I've always thought that what makes the upper echelon of coders great is that they can visualize their code in a similar manner.
What is amazing is not the part about the data density, but the part about the way this memory is written. It is done by adding and removing individual groups of atoms. This means that, unlike today's hard drives, it should be possible to completely and totally delete data from the medium.
Because it's illegal, that's why.
That's about the dumbest reasoning I have heard in a long time for not doing something. Ever hear of civil disobedience? It was illegal for a lot of things to happen, such as the Boston Tea party, but if they hadn't have happened you wouldn't be living in the free country you're living in now.
I won't speak for how history will bear this one out, but I suspect that if there was ever a case for showing the public what the RIAA wanted to do to them, this is as good a demonstration as any.
All I have to say, having read the entire bill, is that this is effectively an end run around my constitutional right to due process. Sure, they put in the caveat about having to notify the justice department, as if that's going to be effective.
Actually I'd welcome something like this so I could optimize my commute. I've been looking for a good way to track details of my commute. I'd love to use that data with some sort of genetic algorithm to help me determine when the best times to be coming to and from work are. Excepting accidents, construction, and dumbshit drivers who don't realize the left lane is not for cruising at 5mph under the speed limit, I figure I could shave 10 - 20% of the time off my daily commute. Over a years time, that really adds up.
Moderators: WARNING This post may seem inflamatory or trollish. If it seems that way, you probably didn't understand it.
Hemos: I really wish you'd refrain from telling us how you feel about the article on the front page. If you have something to say, why not post a comment?
Two of our developers just came back from a .NET training session and were wowed beyond belief. (Note: This session was put on by a private company, not Microsoft). These guys were hardcore Linux/Java hackers working on our latest web based application. What changed their mind? It was the tools. The code had *NOTHING* to do with it as far as they were concerned. I told them there were OSS alternatives that pretty much replicated all of the .NET functionality. They still shook their heads saying it's the tools they were introduced to that made the real difference, not the code. One small example they used was that the MSFT tools allow you to backtrace a transaction all the way from your HTML front end clear on in to the database with a simple click of a button. There were a lot of other examples, but that was the one that stood out in my mind the most. It was the fact that they could write code faster and worry less about the crap that tipped the scales.
The thinking progresses with the argument that since we're developing on Microsoft tools we should be running a Microsoft OS on our servers since no two JVM's 'er I mean CLR's are alike...
Do you feel better now?
Somehow this seemed appropriate:
The Conscience of a Hacker
by Mentor
Written on January 8, 1986
Another one got caught today, it's all over the papers. "Teenager Arrested in Computer Crime Scandal", "Hacker Arrested after Bank Tampering"...
Damn kids. They're all alike.
But did you, in your three-piece psychology and 1950's technobrain, ever take a look behind the eyes of the hacker? Did you ever wonder what made him tick, what forces shaped him,what may have molded him?
I am a hacker, enter my world...
Mine is a world that begins with school. I'm smarter than most of the other kids, this crap they teach us bores me...
Damn underachiever. They're all alike.
I'm in junior high or high school. I've listened to teachers explain for the fifteenth time how to reduce a fraction. I understand it. "No, Ms. Smith, I didn't show my work. I did it in my head."
Damn kid. Probably copied it. They're all alike.
I made a discovery today. I found a computer.
Wait a second, this is cool. It does what I want it to. If it makes a mistake, it's because I screwed it up.
Not because it doesn't like me...
Or feels threatened by me...
Or thinks I'm a smart ass...
Or doesn't like teaching and shouldn't be here...
Damn kid. All he does is play games. They're all alike.
And then it happened. A door opened to a world rushing through my phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an electronic pulse is sent out, a refuge from the day-to-day incompetencies is sought... a board is found.
"This is it... this is where I belong." I know everyone here... even if I've never met them, never talked to them, may never hear from them again... I know you all.
Damn kid. Tying up the phone line again. They're all alike.
You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed baby food at school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you did let slip through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by sadists, or ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach found us willing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the desert.
This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without paying for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and you call us criminals.
We explore... and you call us criminals. We seek after knowledge... and you call us criminals.
We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals. You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals.
Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for.
I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all...
After all, we're all alike.
Copyright 1986 by Loyd Blankenship (mentor@blankenship.com). All rights reserved.
What is really amazing is that in 50-60 years, this amount of computing power will easily fit within the confines of the standard PC case (assuming such a thing even exists 50-60 years from now). Remember ENIAC...
"In related news Bell Labs has made first contact with a new race of being said to live in the fluidic space created within a new breed of fibre optics..."
and it wil contain our DNA table
I think God has a case for prior art on that one...
And this results in significant signal drop. On a transcontinental cable, this is most likely the same as an outage.
"There is an advantage to teaching kids on multiple operating systems. However Unix is not at all suitable for general introductory courses."
You're wrong there. Young kids are a clean slate. Their minds are not yet warped by one way of doing things. Kids can follow instructions and will adapt to whatever you put in front of them.
Kids learn better with a lump of clay than they do with a solid block of concrete...
Which harkens back to why the Peruvian government is mandating that all software be open source. It seems that you made their point for them...
What I'm wondering is why no one has attempted to regenerate that heat back into usable energy. Sure, there will be significant losses, but if you end up with a net energy profit, it is probably worth it. Other potential drawbacks include increased weight, cost and complexity. However these are all things that engineers, over time, could overcome.
At 42,000 words, it's not neccessarily light reading, but to their credit, it is nicely indexed.
Well it's good to know that his speech will fit in 640K of memory...
Seems to me that this would be an excellent way to ensure that your data is permenantly deleted...
Technology firms did not want to testify in the hearing, did not offer input while the bill was being drafted, and have offered plenty of criticism but little helpful suggestions since, a Hollings aide said.
This, coming from the same people who refused to speak to anyone about the SSSCA (A.K.A. CBDTPA) when it was being drafted... Whatever...
Wasn't Matt the same guy that's been on those Subway commercials 'cause he lost a ton of weight eating subs? Man this guy gets around...
</humor>
Just got off the phone with my Senators, much like many others have. It only took 5 minutes at the *MOST* and went a bit like this:
1) Look up their website here
2) Go to their web page and get their local office phone number.,
3) Call number.
4) Simply tell the person, "Hi, I am (your name), from (your city), (your state) and I would like to register my opposition to SB 2048".
One of them had me spell my name, and the other asked me what SB 2048 was. In case you forget, it's the CBDTPA (Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act).