I joined an internet addiction mailing list in 1994. Actually, it might even have been a support group for people addicted to listservs. There were quite a few people on that list. Eventually I unsubscribed because it took too much time away from my other list activities.
The article is pure flamebait, and those are not honest picks. They are angry, attention-starved lists designed to shock, irritate, whatever. They think the best games ever are Super Mario 3, Half-Life, World of Warcraft, whichever Zelda, and Halo 2 - just like everybody else.
LOL thanks for posting all those hilarious comments guys! They really made my morning one big laugh fest.
I always know I can rely on Slashdot to lift my spirits with the crazy, unpredictable observations of the web's finest aspiring humorists.
An extra special thanks to TFA for driving home the ancient bloody obvious while helping the less informed among us to live in fear. Not enough people live in fear these days or structure their lifestyles around paranoid stalker fantasies! If only more folks would tune in for their local 5:25 identity theft nightmare broadcast, certainly the world would be a much friendlier place.
Let's not get into the barely noticeable assumption that the reader never leaves his house and has no more than a dozen acquaintances. Perhaps for a followup the author could focus on the dangers implicit on going out at night, having more than a handful of friends, being seen on the street, being involved in your neighborhood, etc. God forbid we should announce beyond our most inner circles that we'll be working somewhere or hosting a party. Wait, what's a party?
Pretty sure in this debate it's us doing most of the ignoring. You folks seem to be quite preoccupied indeed with monitoring what we watch, read, and click. That is, when you aren't sermonizing.
What's your problem with CleanFeed? Surely you sleep more soundly knowing the pedophiles in your neighborhood aren't wasting valuable kidnapping and raping time on Internet porn.
People pay extra for classics in a handheld format because they are *portable* - but the going rate for classic games on a console tends to be $20 for 10 or more games on one disc.
If the market for these games is people who haven't played them, they're unlikely to try many of them out for $5 a pop. If the market is those of us who know and love them, we tend to have the ROMs and we've even been playing them legally because somewhere we have the cartridge.
How many people are serious enough about classic games to buy more than a few of these, but not serious enough to have been playing them for the past ten years?
Nintendo can sell a dozen or so of these to very casual gamers on the strength of name recognition or nostalgia, but how far can they expect that to go? Easy, cheap access to a huge library at no risk - free or Netflix style or what have you - could have been a huge selling point for the Wii. It seems here they're giving that up for a comparatively small gain.
It's not bad enough half the stories on/. are irrelevant these days; now we must suffer the site being used as a forum for some neurotic person's indignant whining? What's next? Sections devoted to the plight of left-handed people? Advice for deaf people who are new to suing the entire fucking world. Ash Slashdot: I'm black. What should I do?
These games have been out for a while now. They're quite well known and reviews are everywhere. And the argument that they represent some big push on Nintendo's part is silly, because games in all three categories are available for the PSP and the GBA.
I'd rather have read about some less obvious titles appropriate for people who aren't generally interested in handheld gaming.
It shoots out a bunch of stuff at an incoming whatever. It's a tiny version of whatever they're calling Star Wars these days. This belongs on Slashdot why?
The other thing isn't Star Wars, this isn't a forcefield, and those assholes should be focusing their efforts on space-age technology to spot roadside bombs and keep us from shooting down our own helicopters. Also a means of wiping out civilian populations that will be agreeable to human rights organizations.
Maybe they should go back to making movies that actually ought to be movies, instead of trying to use an 800 square foot screen as a venue for stage plays, pop songs, slide shows, and childish ruminations on the nature of reality / consciousness / what it means to be human.
Or it's possible they just aren't filling the public's demand for novelty documentaries.
Do we really want the government hassling the record labels in the same (sort of) way they've been hassling music pirates, just because the record labels should have terrible things happen to them? Maybe this is the flip side of the War on Unauthorized Clicking, and sure, turnabout is fair play... but none of that makes this a good idea.
These people will not leave us alone until we start piling their children into dump trucks. Cheering them on won't make things better. Boohing them doesn't seem to do much good either, but at least those of us boohing don't deserve the world they want to create.
Whatever happened to just playing your goddam mp3s?
I've been astonished since the store opened that people are willing to move away from a widely used format with no silly DRM variants and sound quality you all like just fine, you bunch of phony audiophiles.
If you care much about music I imagine you'd already been through two or three players before iTunes came around, and had several thousand mp3s encoded and or stolen - and far better use for your time (i.e. encoding and or stealing more music) than converting all this shit into the flavor of the week.
To say nothing of how foolish it is to keep all that music on a device you can't plug into anyone's computer and effortlessly play without first having an obnoxious conversation about it.
And this is a headline story on a well-read news page.
"The argument that source code is uncopyrightable, with some extensions could be applied to almost all, say, fiction stories since no one's written a truly new story in like five thousand years."
Flamebait. This is tantamount to saying nothing unexpected has happened to anyone in 5000 years. Ever notice how people who make this claim never offer a serious argument? Much less some examples. It's just tossed out there. Those of us who find the statment infantile are all too familiar with the pattern. "What about N?" we ask, to which the flamebaiter replies," Well, that's really just a hybrid of X, Y, and Z, with a little bit of Q thrown in."
There are really only three ways of responding to this stupid, nihilistic view of creativity and culture. You can give into it and accept the premise simply because you lack the time and energy to attack a black-hole argument based upon bitterness, or you can do the healthy thing and ignore it... or you can get sick of just ignoring it and flip the bird.
On behalf of those who are tired of just rolling our eyes and letting you get away with it, go fuck yourself.
No, but American counterculture sure seems to thrive on it. You damned well don't see people on the right making phony claims that they are "frightened" of the left. Even reactionaries sounding bullshit alarms about gay comspiracies, immigration, culture war, etc. have the dignity to put it in terms of a call to action rather than to put on that tired act.
Bite your lip and pretend to be worried. Shake your head sadly. Say "I don't like where this country is headed," and offer up a maze of unrelated anecdotes - some true, some speculative, some shamelessly false. If you sense your victim knows nothing about the Patriot Act, focus on that. Try and slip in the word "cronies" if you can. Paint the same political leaders as both hapless puppets and diabolical supervillains. Predict doom as subtly as you must in order to bully your mark into feeling silly about any optimism he may harbor.
Now here's the fun part! Accuse HIM of trying to frighten YOU. No doubt this is exactly what he intended. When those of us who feel good about US foreign policy and terrorism policy argue that al-Qaeda doesn't stand a chance, Iraq will turn out alright, Iran & North Korea will back down, and everything is otherwise coming up roses - isn't it obvious indeed that our motive is to terrify you?
I mean, how else do you expect us to win the support of such sophisticated, free-thinking people for our genocidal oil war?
Oh wait, *you're* not afraid of American policy, you mean a bunch of other people are. People you've talked to and such. Good of you to wring your hands for them.
(Real flamebait there, stating the obvious about a company most people find either loathesome or embarrassing. To say nothing of the readership here. That'll teach him not to start the thread with a tired joke.)
Be thankful the DRM effort is spearheaded by folks who haven't a clue how creepy their dystopian jargon sounds to everyday people. Biggest installed userbase for anything since the internal combustion engine, and they haven't figured out that consumers who have the time and patience for this will devote them to something else.
License migration, for Christ's sake. I want to listen to music on my cellphone.
That MS even cares about your phone demonstrates that their efforts remain comfortably misdirected. Surely the next step in this terrifying slippery slope is to crack down on the games we have installed on our iPods.
Heavens.
Or maybe I'm just one of those consumers directing his time and patience to something else, and this trojan horse will live to bite us all on the ass - just in time, I'm sure, for no one to remember what cellphones and iPods were.
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because rolling your eyes at 4chan memes and being oh SO much smarter than everyone else is what being a mature, sophisticated netizen is all about
I joined an internet addiction mailing list in 1994. Actually, it might even have been a support group for people addicted to listservs. There were quite a few people on that list. Eventually I unsubscribed because it took too much time away from my other list activities.
Subspace seconded.
The article is pure flamebait, and those are not honest picks. They are angry, attention-starved lists designed to shock, irritate, whatever. They think the best games ever are Super Mario 3, Half-Life, World of Warcraft, whichever Zelda, and Halo 2 - just like everybody else.
posting in a spelling flame
LOL thanks for posting all those hilarious comments guys! They really made my morning one big laugh fest.
I always know I can rely on Slashdot to lift my spirits with the crazy, unpredictable observations of the web's finest aspiring humorists.
An extra special thanks to TFA for driving home the ancient bloody obvious while helping the less informed among us to live in fear. Not enough people live in fear these days or structure their lifestyles around paranoid stalker fantasies! If only more folks would tune in for their local 5:25 identity theft nightmare broadcast, certainly the world would be a much friendlier place.
Let's not get into the barely noticeable assumption that the reader never leaves his house and has no more than a dozen acquaintances. Perhaps for a followup the author could focus on the dangers implicit on going out at night, having more than a handful of friends, being seen on the street, being involved in your neighborhood, etc. God forbid we should announce beyond our most inner circles that we'll be working somewhere or hosting a party. Wait, what's a party?
If eating meat yet being pro-life is hypocritical, isn't it also hypocritical to be pro-choice but also a vegetarian?
i enjoyed the comment about the niggers
your mom is from south africa
Pretty sure in this debate it's us doing most of the ignoring. You folks seem to be quite preoccupied indeed with monitoring what we watch, read, and click. That is, when you aren't sermonizing.
What's your problem with CleanFeed? Surely you sleep more soundly knowing the pedophiles in your neighborhood aren't wasting valuable kidnapping and raping time on Internet porn.
Maybe someone noticed that buying, selling, and using cocaine just isn't all that uncommon, expensive, or dangerous anymore.
People pay extra for classics in a handheld format because they are *portable* - but the going rate for classic games on a console tends to be $20 for 10 or more games on one disc.
If the market for these games is people who haven't played them, they're unlikely to try many of them out for $5 a pop. If the market is those of us who know and love them, we tend to have the ROMs and we've even been playing them legally because somewhere we have the cartridge.
How many people are serious enough about classic games to buy more than a few of these, but not serious enough to have been playing them for the past ten years?
Nintendo can sell a dozen or so of these to very casual gamers on the strength of name recognition or nostalgia, but how far can they expect that to go? Easy, cheap access to a huge library at no risk - free or Netflix style or what have you - could have been a huge selling point for the Wii. It seems here they're giving that up for a comparatively small gain.
I showed this to my girlfriend and my wife's girlfriend and they both agreed you may be onto something.
If we take enough of their children away in dumptrucks they will consider leaving us alone.
You have got to be joking.
/. are irrelevant these days; now we must suffer the site being used as a forum for some neurotic person's indignant whining? What's next? Sections devoted to the plight of left-handed people? Advice for deaf people who are new to suing the entire fucking world. Ash Slashdot: I'm black. What should I do?
It's not bad enough half the stories on
It's just kind of weird.
These games have been out for a while now. They're quite well known and reviews are everywhere. And the argument that they represent some big push on Nintendo's part is silly, because games in all three categories are available for the PSP and the GBA.
I'd rather have read about some less obvious titles appropriate for people who aren't generally interested in handheld gaming.
It shoots out a bunch of stuff at an incoming whatever. It's a tiny version of whatever they're calling Star Wars these days. This belongs on Slashdot why?
The other thing isn't Star Wars, this isn't a forcefield, and those assholes should be focusing their efforts on space-age technology to spot roadside bombs and keep us from shooting down our own helicopters. Also a means of wiping out civilian populations that will be agreeable to human rights organizations.
Only the 5 million people who play World of Warcraft and a 2 or 3 million who play other MMORPGs. Certainly no one here at Slashdot.
Website is 90% people cracking idiot jokes, first actual funny post of 2006 gets -1, Offtopic. How depressing.
Maybe they should go back to making movies that actually ought to be movies, instead of trying to use an 800 square foot screen as a venue for stage plays, pop songs, slide shows, and childish ruminations on the nature of reality / consciousness / what it means to be human.
Or it's possible they just aren't filling the public's demand for novelty documentaries.
Do we really want the government hassling the record labels in the same (sort of) way they've been hassling music pirates, just because the record labels should have terrible things happen to them? Maybe this is the flip side of the War on Unauthorized Clicking, and sure, turnabout is fair play... but none of that makes this a good idea.
These people will not leave us alone until we start piling their children into dump trucks. Cheering them on won't make things better. Boohing them doesn't seem to do much good either, but at least those of us boohing don't deserve the world they want to create.
Whatever happened to just playing your goddam mp3s?
I've been astonished since the store opened that people are willing to move away from a widely used format with no silly DRM variants and sound quality you all like just fine, you bunch of phony audiophiles.
If you care much about music I imagine you'd already been through two or three players before iTunes came around, and had several thousand mp3s encoded and or stolen - and far better use for your time (i.e. encoding and or stealing more music) than converting all this shit into the flavor of the week.
To say nothing of how foolish it is to keep all that music on a device you can't plug into anyone's computer and effortlessly play without first having an obnoxious conversation about it.
And this is a headline story on a well-read news page.
"The argument that source code is uncopyrightable, with some extensions could be applied to almost all, say, fiction stories since no one's written a truly new story in like five thousand years."
Flamebait. This is tantamount to saying nothing unexpected has happened to anyone in 5000 years. Ever notice how people who make this claim never offer a serious argument? Much less some examples. It's just tossed out there. Those of us who find the statment infantile are all too familiar with the pattern. "What about N?" we ask, to which the flamebaiter replies," Well, that's really just a hybrid of X, Y, and Z, with a little bit of Q thrown in."
There are really only three ways of responding to this stupid, nihilistic view of creativity and culture. You can give into it and accept the premise simply because you lack the time and energy to attack a black-hole argument based upon bitterness, or you can do the healthy thing and ignore it... or you can get sick of just ignoring it and flip the bird.
On behalf of those who are tired of just rolling our eyes and letting you get away with it, go fuck yourself.
Lamest discussion, too.
Quick, someone make another joke!
No, but American counterculture sure seems to thrive on it. You damned well don't see people on the right making phony claims that they are "frightened" of the left. Even reactionaries sounding bullshit alarms about gay comspiracies, immigration, culture war, etc. have the dignity to put it in terms of a call to action rather than to put on that tired act.
Bite your lip and pretend to be worried. Shake your head sadly. Say "I don't like where this country is headed," and offer up a maze of unrelated anecdotes - some true, some speculative, some shamelessly false. If you sense your victim knows nothing about the Patriot Act, focus on that. Try and slip in the word "cronies" if you can. Paint the same political leaders as both hapless puppets and diabolical supervillains. Predict doom as subtly as you must in order to bully your mark into feeling silly about any optimism he may harbor.
Now here's the fun part! Accuse HIM of trying to frighten YOU. No doubt this is exactly what he intended. When those of us who feel good about US foreign policy and terrorism policy argue that al-Qaeda doesn't stand a chance, Iraq will turn out alright, Iran & North Korea will back down, and everything is otherwise coming up roses - isn't it obvious indeed that our motive is to terrify you?
I mean, how else do you expect us to win the support of such sophisticated, free-thinking people for our genocidal oil war?
Oh wait, *you're* not afraid of American policy, you mean a bunch of other people are. People you've talked to and such. Good of you to wring your hands for them.
(Real flamebait there, stating the obvious about a company most people find either loathesome or embarrassing. To say nothing of the readership here. That'll teach him not to start the thread with a tired joke.)
Be thankful the DRM effort is spearheaded by folks who haven't a clue how creepy their dystopian jargon sounds to everyday people. Biggest installed userbase for anything since the internal combustion engine, and they haven't figured out that consumers who have the time and patience for this will devote them to something else.
License migration, for Christ's sake. I want to listen to music on my cellphone.
That MS even cares about your phone demonstrates that their efforts remain comfortably misdirected. Surely the next step in this terrifying slippery slope is to crack down on the games we have installed on our iPods.
Heavens.
Or maybe I'm just one of those consumers directing his time and patience to something else, and this trojan horse will live to bite us all on the ass - just in time, I'm sure, for no one to remember what cellphones and iPods were.