Of course your right, because fail0verflow and GeoHot are the only two humans on the face of the Earth that could possiibly have been working on it. I'd bet money that it was being worked on from release by warez and pirate groups. They would be hammering away to try and find a method to run copied games, it has jack shit to do with the Other OS option.
Speaking of, that shit has to end as well. The strawman "Oh noes, the Other OS option is gone, so we will start making hacks!" arguement is a load of bullshit. It was hacked to be unlocked because MOST people want to steal and not get caught or punished. Its not about getting even, hardware freedom, homebrew, or any of that other shit. Get off the high white horse and don't hide behind that arguement. For PS3s sold retail to consumer households, I can promise you the number of people aware of the Other OS option is statistically insignificant, and that includes the even smaller number of people who actually used it. I think 2% of all owners would be generous.
Its a paper thin excuse to do what has been done to Wii/Xbox under a similarly flimsy guise. This time its not "Its all for homebrew!" or "I need to use backups of my precious retail discs!" its a weakly constructed bullshit revenge story over the Other OS option. Believe it if you want. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Sony is not pleased and is very keen on defending their poorly defended system with the US legal system.
Can we just stop this already? I'm tired of this terminology being used when it comes to PS3's protection schemes. It only took, what, more than 4 years for anyone to break through. I wouldn't call that POORLY DEFENDED.
...contain a lot more content than games you used to pay $20 or more (remember NeoGeo? $250 for a some games!) for 10 years ago, and yet, people all still complaining.
The only reason Neo*Geo games were that expensive was the cost of high capacity memory chips inside of the cartridge, necessary to store the large amount of megabits of large and/or super detailed sprites and artwork compared to the more run-of-the-mill home systems (Neo*Geo was 24-bit). Similarly to how some large NES/SNES/Genesis games such as Final Fantasy 3 or Phantasy Star 2 retailed for about $10 to $15 more than a "regular" game, to cover the cost of manufacture, more than anything. They had more content, so they needed more space to store it. Its pretty much the sole reason that physical cartridges have disappeared as a viable gaming medium for anything other than portable systems. You never know, this may change again.
I don't see how that's valid. It could easily been some Marquis De Sade book that Amazon won't carry here in the states, or possibly a Japanese type of Kama Sutra sort of book. I didn't assume it was a Gravure-style picture DVD with adolescent girls. Its offtopic, its not even a book. Good work on your deductive reasoning there, chief.
You may be more than 18 years of age, and in possession of a y chromosome; but there is No. Fucking. Way. that you have yet graduated to the status of "human" if you are actually playing in traffic because of the influence of Frogger.
I think you misunderstood me, I didn't say trading it in to GameStop like a mindless dummy and taking.08 cents in trade value. If you resell a current PS3 slim, adult owned, from a non-smoking household, you can easily get more than $200 for a complete system. Then again, I still have every game system I ever owned, packed away nicely in their boxes. I won't buy used and apparently I don't sell them either.
I feel a bit more comfortable jailbreaking a game system with a dongle or some other easily removable device, if I would like to resell it, etc. I guess I'm just that paranoid.
Is there a book that you would recommend to learn Python? I learned to program BASIC about 15 years ago back in high school, and always wanted to give something more modern a try. Python sounds like the way to go, especially if it is as similar in nature as it sounds to BASIC. I don't mean a classroom "teaching" type book, unless you think that is best, I mean more of a self-teaching manual?
I would probably go for it if half of what they pay, say splitting $5 an hour (I really think $8 would attract more takers), went to me, and half went to a charity of MY choice. I don't want to sound too greedy, but my time is worth SOMETHING. In the end, if $2.50 an hour only goes to a charity of my choice, without me getting anything, I could do much more for them with my time by volunteering than to watch ads so they got a small amount of cash. This way, it sort of works for everyone. A little for me, a little for them, when I'm bored and just feel like having a laptop run next to me when I watch tv. Hell, I'm into the idea of CAPTCHAs as well. It surely doesn't hurt them when inevitably I will see a commercial for a movie or game that I would end up seeing or buying.
One moment here, maybe the industry is right. Think of it like this, most of us are offended or shocked by this beginning to occur more and more often, but "we" aren't the norm. We're essentially a community of gamers and nerds, who largely grew up the same. Most of us loved a Goldeneye all nighter, or lining up tokens to have the next crack at Mortal Kombat, but that's our youth and what our generation loves. If you were 13 then and were really in to it, think about today's 13 year olds. EVERYTHING is a social network type experience. Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, XBL, PSN, WOW, and on and on.
I'm not saying I like it, damn, I hate it. My friends and I still setup multiple PS3s and tvs just to play MW2 and get that old feel. However, video games are big business, and these companies have market strategy departments funded by more money than some small countries have in GDP. They are going to follow modern trends, and I hate to say it, but that's what's hot. Sure, we say it was better in our day, but that argument has been going on about all entertainment mediums, such as music, since the first instrument was ever played. I'm sure my grandfather would take hoop and stick or lawn darts over Super Mario Brothers. Its just a companies selling to a well thought out target market. As much as we all loved it, our time is likely passing. The world just won't get off our collective lawn!
He also did the artwork for the PC-Amiga Darkseed titles. Lots of his freaky, Alien type artwork. Can still be easily gotten ahold of if any fans want to check it out.
Just because a store says it always has the low price in its advertisement, it doesn't make it true.
I believe the slogan is actually "Always Low Prices" and if you ask me, that's very non-commital. Probably for that exact reason, so nobody can attempt to legally to hold them to having the lowest price.
You hit the nail on the head with this one, 100%. In Gump, they used the special effects, seamlessly, to forward the story. None of this overdone Avatar or Transformers type bullshit. I've been waiting to say this, after 3 viewings, Avatar is nothing more than a bubblegum Dreamworks-style special effects romp aimed at tweens, adults and "Greens" that lacks in most of the things *I* look for in a movie. I hate to break it to people, but 3D is nothing more than a gimmick. It puts asses in seats, and at home, its a way for a father to kiss more ass on his kids by overpaying for a joke television. Swinging that ePeen pretty hard by blowing money on a shitty tv to watch Alice in Wonderland with sunglasses on. Back to Avatar, I don't want to be preached at during my CGI slow-jerk, I'd rather just enjoy what I'm seeing without a Michael Moore level of a lesson.
I know people will see this as flamebait and mod me down. Do what you will. Here is another good example, take shit like Avatar and compare it to something as special effects laden...anything nowadays, but lets say Despicable Me, for example. All CGI, and I'm sure the Avatar purists out there will argue that its not 100% CGI, its only 94.673434% CGI. At least you aren't being preached at, and constantly taken out of the "box" by overdone and hokey special effects. Its just a comedy movie, as its supposed to be, not trying to "change a life" like Passion of the Christ in CGI with characters that barely break the Final Fantasy: Advent Children level of quality. Avatar is very overrated, I can't be the only one who thinks this way. Looks good, but as a movie, it blows. Box office gross does not a good movie make, and anyone here who loves movies would agree in a heartbeat.
In closing, CGI can be made to do awesome and seamless things. Remember the 2-shot turnpike escape in War of the Worlds? Done amazingly. Not to mention Gump, as the OP had brought up. Make it look like excellent direction to forward, and keep me engrossed in, the story. Not a money trap for dumb yokels to throw $15 a pop at, just to have "seen the latest and greatest movie" as Avatar was. I agree with the OP on Transformers 2 as well, holy shit, it doesn't all have to be special effects. Sit the hell down and watch Apocalypse Now if you want to know what well done special effects can do to FORWARD a story, not be the whole focal point. Half of you Slashdotters might be disappointed though, no blue screen or CGI.
Honestly, genocide bothers me less than those ASPCA commercials. If you can't love and take care of an animal, don't bother having one. I guess that goes for human children as well.
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Of course your right, because fail0verflow and GeoHot are the only two humans on the face of the Earth that could possiibly have been working on it. I'd bet money that it was being worked on from release by warez and pirate groups. They would be hammering away to try and find a method to run copied games, it has jack shit to do with the Other OS option.
Speaking of, that shit has to end as well. The strawman "Oh noes, the Other OS option is gone, so we will start making hacks!" arguement is a load of bullshit. It was hacked to be unlocked because MOST people want to steal and not get caught or punished. Its not about getting even, hardware freedom, homebrew, or any of that other shit. Get off the high white horse and don't hide behind that arguement. For PS3s sold retail to consumer households, I can promise you the number of people aware of the Other OS option is statistically insignificant, and that includes the even smaller number of people who actually used it. I think 2% of all owners would be generous.
Its a paper thin excuse to do what has been done to Wii/Xbox under a similarly flimsy guise. This time its not "Its all for homebrew!" or "I need to use backups of my precious retail discs!" its a weakly constructed bullshit revenge story over the Other OS option. Believe it if you want. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Sony is not pleased and is very keen on defending their poorly defended system with the US legal system.
Can we just stop this already? I'm tired of this terminology being used when it comes to PS3's protection schemes. It only took, what, more than 4 years for anyone to break through. I wouldn't call that POORLY DEFENDED.
Seriously. Mod up.
The only reason Neo*Geo games were that expensive was the cost of high capacity memory chips inside of the cartridge, necessary to store the large amount of megabits of large and/or super detailed sprites and artwork compared to the more run-of-the-mill home systems (Neo*Geo was 24-bit). Similarly to how some large NES/SNES/Genesis games such as Final Fantasy 3 or Phantasy Star 2 retailed for about $10 to $15 more than a "regular" game, to cover the cost of manufacture, more than anything. They had more content, so they needed more space to store it. Its pretty much the sole reason that physical cartridges have disappeared as a viable gaming medium for anything other than portable systems. You never know, this may change again.
I don't see how that's valid. It could easily been some Marquis De Sade book that Amazon won't carry here in the states, or possibly a Japanese type of Kama Sutra sort of book. I didn't assume it was a Gravure-style picture DVD with adolescent girls. Its offtopic, its not even a book. Good work on your deductive reasoning there, chief.
Why do you assume the incest in The Bible is fictional?
I assume the whole thing is fictional.
Oh, and thanks for NSFW heads-up. Very helpful.
Its Amazon Japan, thats like comparing apples and oranges as far as what is acceptable in different cultues.
You may be more than 18 years of age, and in possession of a y chromosome; but there is No. Fucking. Way. that you have yet graduated to the status of "human" if you are actually playing in traffic because of the influence of Frogger.
There, fixed that for you.
I think you misunderstood me, I didn't say trading it in to GameStop like a mindless dummy and taking .08 cents in trade value. If you resell a current PS3 slim, adult owned, from a non-smoking household, you can easily get more than $200 for a complete system. Then again, I still have every game system I ever owned, packed away nicely in their boxes. I won't buy used and apparently I don't sell them either.
I feel a bit more comfortable jailbreaking a game system with a dongle or some other easily removable device, if I would like to resell it, etc. I guess I'm just that paranoid.
Is there a book that you would recommend to learn Python? I learned to program BASIC about 15 years ago back in high school, and always wanted to give something more modern a try. Python sounds like the way to go, especially if it is as similar in nature as it sounds to BASIC. I don't mean a classroom "teaching" type book, unless you think that is best, I mean more of a self-teaching manual?
I would probably go for it if half of what they pay, say splitting $5 an hour (I really think $8 would attract more takers), went to me, and half went to a charity of MY choice. I don't want to sound too greedy, but my time is worth SOMETHING. In the end, if $2.50 an hour only goes to a charity of my choice, without me getting anything, I could do much more for them with my time by volunteering than to watch ads so they got a small amount of cash. This way, it sort of works for everyone. A little for me, a little for them, when I'm bored and just feel like having a laptop run next to me when I watch tv. Hell, I'm into the idea of CAPTCHAs as well. It surely doesn't hurt them when inevitably I will see a commercial for a movie or game that I would end up seeing or buying.
One moment here, maybe the industry is right. Think of it like this, most of us are offended or shocked by this beginning to occur more and more often, but "we" aren't the norm. We're essentially a community of gamers and nerds, who largely grew up the same. Most of us loved a Goldeneye all nighter, or lining up tokens to have the next crack at Mortal Kombat, but that's our youth and what our generation loves. If you were 13 then and were really in to it, think about today's 13 year olds. EVERYTHING is a social network type experience. Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, XBL, PSN, WOW, and on and on.
I'm not saying I like it, damn, I hate it. My friends and I still setup multiple PS3s and tvs just to play MW2 and get that old feel. However, video games are big business, and these companies have market strategy departments funded by more money than some small countries have in GDP. They are going to follow modern trends, and I hate to say it, but that's what's hot. Sure, we say it was better in our day, but that argument has been going on about all entertainment mediums, such as music, since the first instrument was ever played. I'm sure my grandfather would take hoop and stick or lawn darts over Super Mario Brothers. Its just a companies selling to a well thought out target market. As much as we all loved it, our time is likely passing. The world just won't get off our collective lawn!
He also did the artwork for the PC-Amiga Darkseed titles. Lots of his freaky, Alien type artwork. Can still be easily gotten ahold of if any fans want to check it out.
I think the cloud is halfway to capacity with this "summary" alone.
Just because a store says it always has the low price in its advertisement, it doesn't make it true.
I believe the slogan is actually "Always Low Prices" and if you ask me, that's very non-commital. Probably for that exact reason, so nobody can attempt to legally to hold them to having the lowest price.
Ok, fine then, I won't post an entire Larry the Cable Guy stand-up routine in hopes of zeroing out our 1%.
...he became so emotional that the conversation ended with him demanding that I never speak to him again.
Yes, and I'm still pissed of at you. I told you to quit speaking to me!
Don't forget think-of-the-children.
You hit the nail on the head with this one, 100%. In Gump, they used the special effects, seamlessly, to forward the story. None of this overdone Avatar or Transformers type bullshit. I've been waiting to say this, after 3 viewings, Avatar is nothing more than a bubblegum Dreamworks-style special effects romp aimed at tweens, adults and "Greens" that lacks in most of the things *I* look for in a movie. I hate to break it to people, but 3D is nothing more than a gimmick. It puts asses in seats, and at home, its a way for a father to kiss more ass on his kids by overpaying for a joke television. Swinging that ePeen pretty hard by blowing money on a shitty tv to watch Alice in Wonderland with sunglasses on. Back to Avatar, I don't want to be preached at during my CGI slow-jerk, I'd rather just enjoy what I'm seeing without a Michael Moore level of a lesson.
I know people will see this as flamebait and mod me down. Do what you will. Here is another good example, take shit like Avatar and compare it to something as special effects laden...anything nowadays, but lets say Despicable Me, for example. All CGI, and I'm sure the Avatar purists out there will argue that its not 100% CGI, its only 94.673434% CGI. At least you aren't being preached at, and constantly taken out of the "box" by overdone and hokey special effects. Its just a comedy movie, as its supposed to be, not trying to "change a life" like Passion of the Christ in CGI with characters that barely break the Final Fantasy: Advent Children level of quality. Avatar is very overrated, I can't be the only one who thinks this way. Looks good, but as a movie, it blows. Box office gross does not a good movie make, and anyone here who loves movies would agree in a heartbeat.
In closing, CGI can be made to do awesome and seamless things. Remember the 2-shot turnpike escape in War of the Worlds? Done amazingly. Not to mention Gump, as the OP had brought up. Make it look like excellent direction to forward, and keep me engrossed in, the story. Not a money trap for dumb yokels to throw $15 a pop at, just to have "seen the latest and greatest movie" as Avatar was. I agree with the OP on Transformers 2 as well, holy shit, it doesn't all have to be special effects. Sit the hell down and watch Apocalypse Now if you want to know what well done special effects can do to FORWARD a story, not be the whole focal point. Half of you Slashdotters might be disappointed though, no blue screen or CGI.
Known to the world...oh the shame! /kill self
Honestly, genocide bothers me less than those ASPCA commercials. If you can't love and take care of an animal, don't bother having one. I guess that goes for human children as well.
Honestly, if there is nothing to hide, why all the panic? Its like... Well, I'd think of an analogy but I'm hungry.
that the golden hour for phishing was right before dawn.
(rimshot)
(smattering of applause)
Thanks, I'll be here all week.