I would love to replace our Netware file/print environment with Linux/Samba, but I still haven't found a suitable replacement for Novell Zenworks. I have to manage 2500 windows workstations, and without automated software distribution/inventory management, I can't do it.
RedHat: If RHN worked for windows PCS the same way it does for my linux boxen, and I could run the server myself INSIDE the firewall, you can sell me support.
I use IMAP everyday. I use Evolution's IMAP features against out lotus domino server(barf) at the office... If you're looking for a cheapo IMAP account, I use Omnis to host my domain, and you get 1 pop3/imap4 email account with 5Megs of web space for like $1/month.
When you are mixing different vendor's LDAP implementations together, be real careful about who gets to keep the passwords. IIRC Active Directory stores passwords in a goofy format that nobody else can use, so you will need a product like "Microsoft Meta Directory Services" or Novell's "DirXML" to keep things in sync.
Linux and Solaris are pretty easy to accomodate with PAM.
Microsoft also makes a product called "Services for Unix" which will (among other things) make your Active Directory Domain controller act like an NIS server so you can setup Linux/Solaris boxen as slaves.
Just make sure NOTHING transmits password across the wire in clear text. If everything uses the same username/password, a simple packet sniff can conpromise the whole works!
Hardware resource consumption is a bigger deal than I think people realize. If I really really want to run $application, and $application requires me to buy a new PC, I will most likely end up going to gateway/dell/whomever and be forced to pay for the preloaded copy of windows.
Resource intensive Linux apps are good for MS. Think about that before you #include gnome.h
Sun's refusal to open Java to a standards body is making it really hard for me (a card-carrying Open-Source-Looney) to figure out what is better long term. I'm all for open standards, and (on the surface, at least) it looks like.NET is more open than J2EE. (Microsoft, has at least submitted some of.NET to ECMA)
Is this a correct analysis? Something the back of my mind tells me I've just been tricked...
I have always been of the mind that the trio of Sun/Netscape/Oracle was the One_True_Religion, but now I'm not so sure.
You're nothing in the world until you're willing to use actions to back up your words.
Well, I pretty much was just trying to be funny, but since you brought it up....
I don't think holding the world's email hostage is a terribly productive way to go about
things. Reichschancellor
Ashcroft would probably send you up the river on terrorism charges for that.
Some of the more positive geek activities that spring to mind include
A few more geeks enabled us "illegally" to watch
DVDs with that operating system.
A young geek got the whole music industry *all* pissed off with this little program, the offspring of which are the very reason for this
discussion.
Anyhow, the point is that no matter what these companies come up with, the geeks always find
a way around it. And that's exactly the reason they're trying to buy legislation to stop us.
They know they can't do it with technology.
You are pissing off alot of geeks. Big deal you say?
Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on. We write your software. We fix your servers. We connect your calls, We render your effects. We guard you (from DDOS) while you sleep. Do not fuck with us.
John Doe was at a bar for x amount of time, pull him over
Here in PA, cops do that now. They sometimes put a chalk mark on your tire in the bar parking lot and go hide someplace to pull you over when you leave.
I have learned to inspect my tires before leaving the local watering hole.
What does this do to RedHat's paying RHN customers? There is a RedHat channel in RedCarpet. If I were going to pay for a service like this (I'm not), I'd go with Ximian, which gets me my RedHat updates, PLUS all the content from Ximian, codeweavers, Loki, etc. etc.
Agreed. Microsoft rules the world, corrupts the government, steals lunch money from children etc, etc. blah blah blah....
Bitching about it to the rest of us on Slashdot makes no difference.
Want to do something about it? Go write some cool piece of kick-ass GPLed code.
Submit a bug report
Not a programmer? Write some documentation.
Go on IRC or USENET and help the newbies.
Microsoft is irrelevant. Don't use thier products. Don't visit MSN.com, don't watch MSNBC. Don't buy an Xbox.
Your comparison would be completely true, except for the fact that you can't buy a PC without a 'free' copy of windows preloaded.
Yes, I know penguincomputing and others allow it, but suits buy from dell, hp, gateway etc.
The Microsoft tax destroys any cost savings in deploting Linux on workstations:-(
The last option I can think of is PROZAC. You may be sufferring from depression
I think this was meant as a joke, but it would not hurt to talk to the school's psyc services department about this. This exact thing happened to me in my Junior year of school, and these people can help you.
Loosing interest in things that you once enjoyed is one the big red flags for depression.
I'm wondering if maybe that's because there has never been a starship captain. So, he has no example to follow. He probably got the job because his dad designed the engine or whatever (instead of based on his qualifications)
I think maybe the idea is that the Vulcans are right, Humans are not quite ready to venture out of thier own star system yet.
Overall, It sucked less than the average Voyager episode, so maybe there's hope for this one.
And I fully agree, I don't mind a half-naked vulcan every so often:-)
Yeah, I've been out of academia for a while, too.
But if you really would rather surf/. than listen to old guy spew, why go to lecture at all? Stay in your dorm and surf. Some people need lecture to learn, some don't. Don't make life suck for those who do.
Of course, the whole idea of going to college(physically) is pretty much obsolete, with things like University of Phoenix and whatnot. Now, websurfing *is* college.
not ture, the strip clubs I've...ahem.. heard of have machine that accepts credit cards, and gives you fake money to tip the girls.
Not that I know about this first hand or anything, but they ussually come in denominations equivelent to the cost of a lap dance at that particular establishment.
Initiate Karma burn: This so-called Peace and Freedom you cling to takes an *extremely* big machine to maintain
Yep. We live well because wealth from other countries is redistributed here. We are not all naive here. I know that my quality of life comes at the expense of others. Guess what? I couldn't care less. I look forward to the day that fossil fuels are obsoleted and the middle east returns to its rightful irrelevance.
I am a rich fat, american. If you are a poor, thin herdsman from some place I've never heard of, rest assured that I am enjoying the fruits of your labors, and smiling.
For those of you not paying attention, America (and her allies) control of this planet. We allow the rest of you to exist because you provide us with some useful service (mainly petroleum and cheap labor).
I have never in my life seen so many of my countrymen SO PISSED OFF.
Right or wrong (if there is such a thing), whoever did this is going to suffer immensely. Yes, there will be innocents slaughtered. (pray to allah/god/jesus/chullu/etc if it makes you feel better).
The blood of the innocent will flow simply because we want to watch it on CNN. and we will.
Yep, I'm a madman, and I am an american citizen.
Fear me, for I vote.
According to some interrviews I've seen with Mr. Lucas, the original ROTJ story was that ewoks were supposed to be Wookies (Chewie was not originally intended for Episode III) But Kucas didn't know if there wouild ever be an ep. IV, so he recast Han's sidekick as a wookie. Then, when ROTJ rolled around, he couldn't use wookies anymore so he 'cut them in half' (his words) and created Ewoks.
My mother lives about 30 miles from the corn field in question. When I asked her about it, she said she heard a loud bang, but thought nothing of it, as there are are always several rednecks sigthing in their deer rifles making similar noises.
Don't come to north central PA looking for moon rocks in corn fields. The rednecks are restless and they don't like geeks (that's why I moved away!)
I think these flamewars are a sign that the project is healthy and full of vigor. Apathy does not engender flame wars, passion does. These people are passionate about thier work (much of which is voluntary).
I do not hack GNOME, but I use it, and love it.
I say three cheers for all the passionate geeks on all sides of this argument.
People who are willing to donate thier time, effort and lost sleep, to put up with all the crap from thier fellow geek over the arcane details of CORBA implementation (or whatever the hell they're fighting about) have certainly earned my respect and admiration.
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RedHat: If RHN worked for windows PCS the same way it does for my linux boxen, and I could run the server myself INSIDE the firewall, you can sell me support.
I use IMAP everyday. I use Evolution's IMAP features against out lotus domino server(barf) at the office... If you're looking for a cheapo IMAP account, I use Omnis to host my domain, and you get 1 pop3/imap4 email account with 5Megs of web space for like $1/month.
Linux and Solaris are pretty easy to accomodate with PAM.
Microsoft also makes a product called "Services for Unix" which will (among other things) make your Active Directory Domain controller act like an NIS server so you can setup Linux/Solaris boxen as slaves.
Just make sure NOTHING transmits password across the wire in clear text. If everything uses the same username/password, a simple packet sniff can conpromise the whole works!
Resource intensive Linux apps are good for MS. Think about that before you #include gnome.h
Cost == save
My bad
It is $800 cheaper if you don't get windows.
No Microsoft Tax on Dell Servers, Yay!
Just today I specced out a poweredge 2550, and You can get it with
- Windows
- Redhat
- Netware
- Nothing
RedHat- Windows 2000
- Noell Netware
- Red Hat Linux 6.2
So yeah, they did make an effort in the server space, at least.Sun's refusal to open Java to a standards body is making it really hard for me (a card-carrying Open-Source-Looney) to figure out what is better long term. I'm all for open standards, and (on the surface, at least) it looks like .NET is more open than J2EE. (Microsoft, has at least submitted some of .NET to ECMA)
Is this a correct analysis? Something the back of my mind tells me I've just been tricked...
I have always been of the mind that the trio of Sun/Netscape/Oracle was the One_True_Religion, but now I'm not so sure.
Well, I pretty much was just trying to be funny, but since you brought it up....
I don't think holding the world's email hostage is a terribly productive way to go about things. Reichschancellor Ashcroft would probably send you up the river on terrorism charges for that. Some of the more positive geek activities that spring to mind include
- This geek wrote his
own operating system which Microsoft now considers its biggest threat.
- A few more geeks enabled us "illegally" to watch
DVDs with that operating system.
- A young geek got the whole music industry *all* pissed off with this little program, the offspring of which are the very reason for this
discussion.
Anyhow, the point is that no matter what these companies come up with, the geeks always find a way around it. And that's exactly the reason they're trying to buy legislation to stop us. They know they can't do it with technology.Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on. We write your software. We fix your servers. We connect your calls, We render your effects. We guard you (from DDOS) while you sleep.
Do not fuck with us.
With Apologies to Tyler Durden ;-P
File|import|Import a single file| select Outlook Express .MBX from the drop-down.
There is even a redhat-approved Evolution .RPM in Rawhide (1.0.2-1)
Here in PA, cops do that now. They sometimes put a chalk mark on your tire in the bar parking lot and go hide someplace to pull you over when you leave.
I have learned to inspect my tires before leaving the local watering hole.
You can sortof get this kinf of functionality by using replicated OpenLDAP. Tell samba to use the LDAP PAM modules for authentication.
It's kind of a kludge, but it works.
I hear that Samba 3 is supposed to have full blown ldap support built in.
Anyone think this might be bad news for RedHat?
Bitching about it to the rest of us on Slashdot makes no difference.
Want to do something about it? Go write some cool piece of kick-ass GPLed code.
Submit a bug report
Not a programmer? Write some documentation.
Go on IRC or USENET and help the newbies.
Microsoft is irrelevant. Don't use thier products. Don't visit MSN.com, don't watch MSNBC. Don't buy an Xbox.
Full compatability with MS Exchange Is coming
Yes, I know penguincomputing and others allow it, but suits buy from dell, hp, gateway etc.
The Microsoft tax destroys any cost savings in deploting Linux on workstations :-(
I think this was meant as a joke, but it would not hurt to talk to the school's psyc services department about this. This exact thing happened to me in my Junior year of school, and these people can help you.
Loosing interest in things that you once enjoyed is one the big red flags for depression.
I'm wondering if maybe that's because there has never been a starship captain. So, he has no example to follow. He probably got the job because his dad designed the engine or whatever (instead of based on his qualifications)
I think maybe the idea is that the Vulcans are right, Humans are not quite ready to venture out of thier own star system yet.
Overall, It sucked less than the average Voyager episode, so maybe there's hope for this one.
And I fully agree, I don't mind a half-naked vulcan every so often :-)
But if you really would rather surf
Of course, the whole idea of going to college(physically) is pretty much obsolete, with things like University of Phoenix and whatnot. Now, websurfing *is* college.
not ture, the strip clubs I've ...ahem.. heard of have machine that accepts credit cards, and gives you fake money to tip the girls.
Not that I know about this first hand or anything, but they ussually come in denominations equivelent to the cost of a lap dance at that particular establishment.
This so-called Peace and Freedom you cling to takes an *extremely* big machine to maintain
Yep. We live well because wealth from other countries is redistributed here. We are not all naive here. I know that my quality of life comes at the expense of others. Guess what? I couldn't care less. I look forward to the day that fossil fuels are obsoleted and the middle east returns to its rightful irrelevance.
I am a rich fat, american. If you are a poor, thin herdsman from some place I've never heard of, rest assured that I am enjoying the fruits of your labors, and smiling.
For those of you not paying attention, America (and her allies) control of this planet. We allow the rest of you to exist because you provide us with some useful service (mainly petroleum and cheap labor).
I have never in my life seen so many of my countrymen SO PISSED OFF.
Right or wrong (if there is such a thing), whoever did this is going to suffer immensely. Yes, there will be innocents slaughtered. (pray to allah/god/jesus/chullu/etc if it makes you feel better).
The blood of the innocent will flow simply because we want to watch it on CNN. and we will.
Yep, I'm a madman, and I am an american citizen.
Fear me, for I vote.
According to some interrviews I've seen with Mr. Lucas, the original ROTJ story was that ewoks were supposed to be Wookies (Chewie was not originally intended for Episode III) But Kucas didn't know if there wouild ever be an ep. IV, so he recast Han's sidekick as a wookie. Then, when ROTJ rolled around, he couldn't use wookies anymore so he 'cut them in half' (his words) and created Ewoks.
My mother lives about 30 miles from the corn field in question. When I asked her about it, she said she heard a loud bang, but thought nothing of it, as there are are always several rednecks sigthing in their deer rifles making similar noises.
Don't come to north central PA looking for moon rocks in corn fields. The rednecks are restless and they don't like geeks (that's why I moved away!)
I do not hack GNOME, but I use it, and love it.
I say three cheers for all the passionate geeks on all sides of this argument.
People who are willing to donate thier time, effort and lost sleep, to put up with all the crap from thier fellow geek over the arcane details of CORBA implementation (or whatever the hell they're fighting about) have certainly earned my respect and admiration.
Slug it out, guys. It'll just make GNOME better.