and SFFs like shuttles are a good bit bigger then a mini and a lot more expandable/capable.
The super small boxes that are via mini itx based are not selling like hot cakes. When you get to that size you are paying more for smaller less standard components and not equal performace. Plus there has been no large push by any mini itx system makers. Shuttles have been doing great cause the company has been pushing them very well, and they are something people want.
The mac mini will sell good though, it's cheap for what you get and has proper marketing behind it. And it runs OSX, which will be a huge bonus for a long time. Most people run windows, and if they are looking for something different it's going to be OSX cause it's just as easy for them, and plenty common and so forth. The selling point to macs is the OS not so much the hardware though the hardware helps.
Well, considering if they are charging for the data, thats a revinew source for the NWS, if they gave it away for free, they would have to get money to support them another way, which would basicly mean they would have to request more money from the government, thus people would pay higher taxes.
Considering most people get their weather from the news stations, or things like the weather channel, they arn't really paying for it as is, so weather or not it's free to them doesn't matter.
It's not like the mass populace is going for this data and generating their own forecast. To say this puts peoples lives at risk is pure insanity, people will just check the news as they always have.
The important thing is that the government make data available, weather or not it's free does not matter. Infact I prefer the government to make money off data that is only important to companies that use it to make money. Let companies subsidize the cost of government.
Not really, we live in the middle of the sticks, so not much multi-language stuff going on. Also they just don't use the phone much, and i can't really think of things they would do that would need it. Furthermore most the time you can still just wait to get a human. And if all else fails, you just say screw it.
I think now they probably do get in those situations as that has become a bit more common, but now they have a push button phone. More then anything it was the cordless ness they liked very much. We have big lawns and such, so it was handy for them.
make that, we got them a DVD player, not a 3rd VCR. But they barely used the DVD player.
Also to note, the first VCR went till about 98 (so it was like 14 years old) or so, it would break belts inside and my father found just the right size rubber band to replace them with. So every now and then he would fix that, but it kept going. The old tv is still going too, just now they have 2 tvs in the house.
my parents didn't have a push button phone till about 3 years ago. And they still have 3 rotary phones in use in the house. We finally bought them a cordless phone, so they made big leap. They simply didn't want a new phone, like many people, if it's not broke why waste money on it. They make more then enough money, but they just bought a "new" car a year ago, it was a 97, my father drives a 92.
Until we bought them a new tv 2 years ago they still had their tv from 1984, bought after the previous one broke. Then we had to get them a VCR, they were on their second one since 84, and it's used 5 nights a week to record the news to watch later that night. Also they didn't get cable tv till 1999.
Plenty of people stick with what they have, this is why no new tech will ever sweep through and eliminate something old. The old base has momentum and lots of it. On a more related to slashdot perspective, their computer is a PII 400 that was still running the original install of win95 that came with it up until about 1.5 years ago when we put winXP on it (note that for being an install of win95 that went for years it had no virus or Trojan issues and such). It just worked for them, and they don't want a new computer anytime soon.
Like the poster above i fall in this problem, i work for a defense company, and we can have phones in work, not really a issue, but i can't take mine in cause it has a camera on it. And i could care less about it having the camera, i got it cause it was what i wanted, just had the drag of having a lot of other crap on it i didn't want.
"The product was good, service was good but the rest of the business world (mainly M$) did not want them around"
No. they are failing because they had a worthless business model that was design by underpants gnomes.
1. Make tivos 2.???? 3. Profit.
Their model just wasn't going to work. Since from the very start it was obvious that others would team up with the cable companies and deliver the same idea. Why would people go for Tivo over what their cable company gives them for free or builds into their bill. Tivo being better quality only goes so far, especially if someone has never used a Tivo.
With a long enough time frame they would have no market, only those who got tivos when it was the only option, or people who decided against their cable company would go to them.
Then you have their subscription. If you like tivo, you would sign up for life time, then they have no more constant stream. Its not like people are going to upgrade their boxes very often to where you can get them signing up for new lifetime memberships.
In the end their business model just wasn't forward thinking or had any great plan to take over. They could only loose market share over time. And at some point at you loose market share you are just going to die. It doesn't matter if they keep adding customers, if that still outstrips the market growth, and their money eating.
How the heck they have managed to be kept afloat this long is the amazing part.
It's from Japan, everyone should have just stopped asking why at this point. It's the land of giant robots, worshiping a cartoon kitty, everything small and pink. And no product is made by a company that doesn't end with "... Heavy Industries"
Give them a platform that is virtually universal in the industry.
Make computing easy
Make computing cheap via making it everywhere and driving down the cost of hardware.
Managing to get on the internet truck late and yet still be the driving force that brought it to home users via making it so easy to get on and use.
etc.
MS may screw up at stuff, but they also have largely gotten the computing world to where it is today. Without them we might just be getting to where we were in around 97 or so, and doubtful things would have been as cheep since apple wouldn't have dropped prices any. And without 1 driving player there would have been many mid size players thus making the whole of computing more expensive do to greater support issues.
I see it can't export to pro/e so thats not very good.
Yeah, cheap CAD Doesn't tend to mean much, also you are only as good as your file support.
AutoCAD doesn't belong here, it's not a solid modeler, yeah they are trying to extend it, but thats just a level of evil on top of the already evil that is auto cad.
Solidworks is one you left out, and they did change things, they came out with a CAD program for 5 grand that was up there with Pro E, but they tossed a lot of features that most never need, and ditched multi-platform which tends to be overrated for something like this. And do to this and their sudden eating of PTCs market PTC cut the price on pro/e 2001 and wildfire to 5 grand. So things are changing some. 33 Grand for one seat of a CAD program has finally become a thing of the past.
Tivo is far more going out of business then apple ever has.
Tivo has never posted a profit, and has no strategy to make a profit. And has a userbase that will only shrink in time. Yes they have added users continually, but not at a rate to keep up with the market (that bit is apple like). But in the end their users are more likely to switch to a dvr that their cable company gives them.
Classic business move. If you see competition, even if remote like in this case (game tv vs computer tv not really competition), then the easiest way to fight is not to fight. By them instead as if it's a good for all move. Then suck them dry for their useful bits and toss them to the curve, and since they no longer exist, your in the clear.
Doesn't matter if your doomed too, you have at least a longer life without competition, and when you rebuild yourself you don't have any competition to start up against.
Mergers often result in this. In the end they aren't mergers, but tricks for a take over. Like Benz merging with Chrysler, it was suppose the be a merger, not Benz taking over and trying to destroy the company. At least now Benz has realized their original plan of making chrysler a truck and mini-van company and stopping all car production to make way for the sales of more Mercedes was a bad plan, and they changed course.
why are you WTFing, you are both right. 2000 was suppose to be for consumers, but it wasn't going to be ready in time, but they had consumer side new stuff worked out with what was ME, thus why its a bit of a mutant between 98 and XP. I suspect MS knew 2000 probably wasn't going to be ready in time, thus they probably kept what was ME going along just incase, and they used it. Also the reason they had to give it the dumb name. Can't have two windows 00's can we. And the 2000 for the NT was probably planned from day one to continue the year system for the 9x series.
When they finally finished what 2000 was to be, that was XP/5.1, the couldn't call it 6.0 cause it was just the finished job over 5.0, and giving it a year name would be bad cause 2000 hadn't been around very long.
I'd love to see longhorn just called Windows 6.0 But that probably won't happen. Windows 200x will be ok. Their current numbering implies that will be the case. Windows 6.0 in 2006 will work out nicely. To bad they can't go back to version numbers, they can't cause it would confuse the snot out of consumers.
To think they would have been saved if they just hadn't called both their OS's windows. 9x series became years cause they used 4.0 for NT. Should have just had Windows, and Windows Pro from the start, even if they had separate bases. Then the XP merge could have happened and everything would be fine. And we could have Windows 6.0 and 6.0 Pro. Alas, it never will be.
well, any bearings in this whole thing have to be pretty good.
The wheels are probably made as they are for
1) light weight
2) ease of making them over making them hollow and such
3) not wasting space. With them shaped as is, when packaged they can fold stuff into that cavity.
I'm actually kinda surprised they don't do like they did for apollo rovers and make collapsable wheels out of piano wire. then it could have some suspension too. But that might be to heavy and complex for this.
The could also look into fenders and mudflaps (with naked ladies)
I find the part of that picture that looks like water pipe insulation held on by tape and zip ties that weren't even cut very short to be most interesting.
Oh, I'm sure they had someone there do a statistical calculation of likelihood of potato sized rocks in the area and chances of the rover hitting them. This went along with the 2 year study of what size rocks will lodge in there which was a design spec on the wheels. And just like my last few lines, all the studies were pure BS.
Anyways, my solution, Spinners on the next one. Some Bling with practicality.
I think this basically means the simple fact. Most people don't have a problem with Microsoft, and are perfectly happy with their products. And while people go after attacking Microsoft and try to get them to cripple products for their own wants. All they are doing is hurting all those who like what MS gives them.
You (not you specifically, but if it applies to you, then yes you) may not want WMP or IE integrated, or don't like this and that about a MS product, but lots of people do like it, so suites against MS hurt these people. There is two sides to every coin, unless we go special coins).
I think MS might as well keep the cash, If there isn't people to claim it, that just means the suite against them wasn't very valid.
I think Panoz needs to call the record book people. They had a le mans car in the late 90s that was a hybrid, guessing it probably did over 200 without much issue. Was banned after 1 race. 800hp V8 + 300 hp electric motor (think those were the numbers) makes it a bit more peppy then a Prius.
Now if this was an issue of production hybrids they might be onto something. I'm sure ford will probably just take a hybrid Escape out and put the Prius in it's place pretty quick.
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and SFFs like shuttles are a good bit bigger then a mini and a lot more expandable/capable.
The super small boxes that are via mini itx based are not selling like hot cakes. When you get to that size you are paying more for smaller less standard components and not equal performace. Plus there has been no large push by any mini itx system makers. Shuttles have been doing great cause the company has been pushing them very well, and they are something people want.
The mac mini will sell good though, it's cheap for what you get and has proper marketing behind it. And it runs OSX, which will be a huge bonus for a long time. Most people run windows, and if they are looking for something different it's going to be OSX cause it's just as easy for them, and plenty common and so forth. The selling point to macs is the OS not so much the hardware though the hardware helps.
I've seen things that wired this into one single button for restarting a controller. Was a pretty scary thought.
Pressing Cntl alt del is so much easier when its one button.
Well, considering if they are charging for the data, thats a revinew source for the NWS, if they gave it away for free, they would have to get money to support them another way, which would basicly mean they would have to request more money from the government, thus people would pay higher taxes.
Considering most people get their weather from the news stations, or things like the weather channel, they arn't really paying for it as is, so weather or not it's free to them doesn't matter.
It's not like the mass populace is going for this data and generating their own forecast. To say this puts peoples lives at risk is pure insanity, people will just check the news as they always have.
The important thing is that the government make data available, weather or not it's free does not matter. Infact I prefer the government to make money off data that is only important to companies that use it to make money. Let companies subsidize the cost of government.
Not really, we live in the middle of the sticks, so not much multi-language stuff going on. Also they just don't use the phone much, and i can't really think of things they would do that would need it. Furthermore most the time you can still just wait to get a human. And if all else fails, you just say screw it.
I think now they probably do get in those situations as that has become a bit more common, but now they have a push button phone. More then anything it was the cordless ness they liked very much. We have big lawns and such, so it was handy for them.
The Mach Kernel, with BSD subsystem and lots of Voodoo, love, puppies and distortion field to bind it all together with some fruit on top actually.
I like it.
make that, we got them a DVD player, not a 3rd VCR. But they barely used the DVD player.
Also to note, the first VCR went till about 98 (so it was like 14 years old) or so, it would break belts inside and my father found just the right size rubber band to replace them with. So every now and then he would fix that, but it kept going. The old tv is still going too, just now they have 2 tvs in the house.
my parents didn't have a push button phone till about 3 years ago. And they still have 3 rotary phones in use in the house. We finally bought them a cordless phone, so they made big leap. They simply didn't want a new phone, like many people, if it's not broke why waste money on it. They make more then enough money, but they just bought a "new" car a year ago, it was a 97, my father drives a 92.
Until we bought them a new tv 2 years ago they still had their tv from 1984, bought after the previous one broke. Then we had to get them a VCR, they were on their second one since 84, and it's used 5 nights a week to record the news to watch later that night. Also they didn't get cable tv till 1999.
Plenty of people stick with what they have, this is why no new tech will ever sweep through and eliminate something old. The old base has momentum and lots of it. On a more related to slashdot perspective, their computer is a PII 400 that was still running the original install of win95 that came with it up until about 1.5 years ago when we put winXP on it (note that for being an install of win95 that went for years it had no virus or Trojan issues and such). It just worked for them, and they don't want a new computer anytime soon.
your brain still would need a printer.
Like the poster above i fall in this problem, i work for a defense company, and we can have phones in work, not really a issue, but i can't take mine in cause it has a camera on it. And i could care less about it having the camera, i got it cause it was what i wanted, just had the drag of having a lot of other crap on it i didn't want.
"The product was good, service was good but the rest of the business world (mainly M$) did not want them around"
No. they are failing because they had a worthless business model that was design by underpants gnomes.
1. Make tivos
2.????
3. Profit.
Their model just wasn't going to work. Since from the very start it was obvious that others would team up with the cable companies and deliver the same idea. Why would people go for Tivo over what their cable company gives them for free or builds into their bill. Tivo being better quality only goes so far, especially if someone has never used a Tivo.
With a long enough time frame they would have no market, only those who got tivos when it was the only option, or people who decided against their cable company would go to them.
Then you have their subscription. If you like tivo, you would sign up for life time, then they have no more constant stream. Its not like people are going to upgrade their boxes very often to where you can get them signing up for new lifetime memberships.
In the end their business model just wasn't forward thinking or had any great plan to take over. They could only loose market share over time. And at some point at you loose market share you are just going to die. It doesn't matter if they keep adding customers, if that still outstrips the market growth, and their money eating.
How the heck they have managed to be kept afloat this long is the amazing part.
It's from Japan, everyone should have just stopped asking why at this point. It's the land of giant robots, worshiping a cartoon kitty, everything small and pink. And no product is made by a company that doesn't end with "... Heavy Industries"
I wish titan good luck, it's the looser in this deal, it's the one getting violated.
By this time tommarow we will be able to look at more junk tossed at a another thing in space, go us.
Anyone know if the VW beetle unit of measurement that NASA loves is a SI or English unit of measure?
Bring the PC to nearly everyone's home.
Give them a platform that is virtually universal in the industry.
Make computing easy
Make computing cheap via making it everywhere and driving down the cost of hardware.
Managing to get on the internet truck late and yet still be the driving force that brought it to home users via making it so easy to get on and use.
etc.
MS may screw up at stuff, but they also have largely gotten the computing world to where it is today. Without them we might just be getting to where we were in around 97 or so, and doubtful things would have been as cheep since apple wouldn't have dropped prices any. And without 1 driving player there would have been many mid size players thus making the whole of computing more expensive do to greater support issues.
I always thought it was cause kids are small and stupid and wells are perfectly designed to correlate with that spec.
no, in one of the pages on the site it said it can only import pro/e files, but can't export.
I see it can't export to pro/e so thats not very good.
Yeah, cheap CAD Doesn't tend to mean much, also you are only as good as your file support.
AutoCAD doesn't belong here, it's not a solid modeler, yeah they are trying to extend it, but thats just a level of evil on top of the already evil that is auto cad.
Solidworks is one you left out, and they did change things, they came out with a CAD program for 5 grand that was up there with Pro E, but they tossed a lot of features that most never need, and ditched multi-platform which tends to be overrated for something like this. And do to this and their sudden eating of PTCs market PTC cut the price on pro/e 2001 and wildfire to 5 grand. So things are changing some. 33 Grand for one seat of a CAD program has finally become a thing of the past.
Tivo is far more going out of business then apple ever has.
Tivo has never posted a profit, and has no strategy to make a profit. And has a userbase that will only shrink in time. Yes they have added users continually, but not at a rate to keep up with the market (that bit is apple like). But in the end their users are more likely to switch to a dvr that their cable company gives them.
Classic business move. If you see competition, even if remote like in this case (game tv vs computer tv not really competition), then the easiest way to fight is not to fight. By them instead as if it's a good for all move. Then suck them dry for their useful bits and toss them to the curve, and since they no longer exist, your in the clear.
Doesn't matter if your doomed too, you have at least a longer life without competition, and when you rebuild yourself you don't have any competition to start up against.
Mergers often result in this. In the end they aren't mergers, but tricks for a take over. Like Benz merging with Chrysler, it was suppose the be a merger, not Benz taking over and trying to destroy the company. At least now Benz has realized their original plan of making chrysler a truck and mini-van company and stopping all car production to make way for the sales of more Mercedes was a bad plan, and they changed course.
You could pass a nuclear warhead across the scanner and have it come up as a ethernet card for $9.95 and most cashiers there would never notice.
why are you WTFing, you are both right. 2000 was suppose to be for consumers, but it wasn't going to be ready in time, but they had consumer side new stuff worked out with what was ME, thus why its a bit of a mutant between 98 and XP. I suspect MS knew 2000 probably wasn't going to be ready in time, thus they probably kept what was ME going along just incase, and they used it. Also the reason they had to give it the dumb name. Can't have two windows 00's can we. And the 2000 for the NT was probably planned from day one to continue the year system for the 9x series.
When they finally finished what 2000 was to be, that was XP/5.1, the couldn't call it 6.0 cause it was just the finished job over 5.0, and giving it a year name would be bad cause 2000 hadn't been around very long.
I'd love to see longhorn just called Windows 6.0 But that probably won't happen. Windows 200x will be ok. Their current numbering implies that will be the case. Windows 6.0 in 2006 will work out nicely. To bad they can't go back to version numbers, they can't cause it would confuse the snot out of consumers.
To think they would have been saved if they just hadn't called both their OS's windows. 9x series became years cause they used 4.0 for NT. Should have just had Windows, and Windows Pro from the start, even if they had separate bases. Then the XP merge could have happened and everything would be fine. And we could have Windows 6.0 and 6.0 Pro. Alas, it never will be.
well, any bearings in this whole thing have to be pretty good.
The wheels are probably made as they are for
1) light weight
2) ease of making them over making them hollow and such
3) not wasting space. With them shaped as is, when packaged they can fold stuff into that cavity.
I'm actually kinda surprised they don't do like they did for apollo rovers and make collapsable wheels out of piano wire. then it could have some suspension too. But that might be to heavy and complex for this.
The could also look into fenders and mudflaps (with naked ladies)
I find the part of that picture that looks like water pipe insulation held on by tape and zip ties that weren't even cut very short to be most interesting.
Oh, I'm sure they had someone there do a statistical calculation of likelihood of potato sized rocks in the area and chances of the rover hitting them. This went along with the 2 year study of what size rocks will lodge in there which was a design spec on the wheels. And just like my last few lines, all the studies were pure BS.
Anyways, my solution, Spinners on the next one. Some Bling with practicality.
interesting. All the more reason to say to this thing.
Rock on, Asteroid MN4, Rock on.
I think this basically means the simple fact. Most people don't have a problem with Microsoft, and are perfectly happy with their products. And while people go after attacking Microsoft and try to get them to cripple products for their own wants. All they are doing is hurting all those who like what MS gives them.
You (not you specifically, but if it applies to you, then yes you) may not want WMP or IE integrated, or don't like this and that about a MS product, but lots of people do like it, so suites against MS hurt these people. There is two sides to every coin, unless we go special coins).
I think MS might as well keep the cash, If there isn't people to claim it, that just means the suite against them wasn't very valid.
I think Panoz needs to call the record book people. They had a le mans car in the late 90s that was a hybrid, guessing it probably did over 200 without much issue. Was banned after 1 race. 800hp V8 + 300 hp electric motor (think those were the numbers) makes it a bit more peppy then a Prius.
Now if this was an issue of production hybrids they might be onto something. I'm sure ford will probably just take a hybrid Escape out and put the Prius in it's place pretty quick.
I'm really doubting they will be even remotely able to predict where its going to hit (if it's going to hit) till a few months from time of impact.