maybe it was just me, but i saw no notice to mirrors, so this whole thread is just a furphy in terms of "letting mirrors get in first and mirror before a release is made".
noone told me (a downstream mirror for *.au) and the first i knew about it was
o the story appeared in slashdot
o i checked and the SRPMS directory which we update automatically was wiped - weeeee, a gig to download from scratch which we have to pay for
o the 7.1 directory started to appear on the norway site.
one the the problems with the lack of settlement in the past has been virtually no incentive to host any content in australia - not only does it end up on the deep end of the internet gravity well but you actually have to pay a component of this *back* to american telcos when you ship bytes in that direction in "backchannel" costs. this starts to be significant when you're shipping terabytes of traffic a month and as your outbound is growing quickly, so is the bill.
with some settlement now available perhaps the long term trend will be that it simply makes more business sense now to leave content within australia instead of hosting it offshore.
as a maintainer of a large public archive i can state that we had to shut down international access to it because _more_ people in the US were accessing us than locally in australia, which was incurring horrendous network charges for to keep letting them do this!
i'm making a mirror of this available in *.au/*.nz it's pretty slow updating currently - about 320M down and about the same to still download. you won't be able to access it outside au/nz from our mirror unfortunately.
having read through most of the the thread, my $0.02 is:
definitely install virtual adrian to get a better idea of system tuning you can do and where your real problems might lie. have you tuned all the system paramaters possible ? ncsize ? turned off all non essential daemons/apps on the machine ?
mylex controllers seem reliable but were definitely a pain to configure - we're using them on a dec fileserver solution. one downside that appeared was they took 6-8 hours to initialize the array - compared to 1.5 hours for a non mylex controller:-/
we're now switching from DEC+Mylex to Sun+Infortrend who make a very nice scsi-scsi controller. www.infortrend.com - we're using the 3201U2G - 4 Ultra2Wide scsi buses.
don't go to raid unless you know what you're getting yourself into - it's far more complex and expensive in the long term apart from your initial investment in the hardware. you'll have larger spares provisioning, your documentation (you do have some right;-) will be more complex and your backup system might need some work too.
my rule of thumb at present is JBOD to 50G, RAID as a NAS for 50G-500G and SAN (RAID/fibre) for above 500G. you really don't need raid below 50G except for specific performance reasons
it's been an interesting thread to read, since i'm right in the middle of working on a raid5 server implementation.
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i've tried to download from their web and ftp site and both appear to be down. i've sent them email asking if they will be allowing official mirrors, and also received no reply.
i find it disappointing that the licence prohibits mirror sites from making this available.:-(
perhaps ibm don't quite understand what opensource is all about, when they're still talking about only allowing people to make `backup copies' of software they want feedback and usage on.
just a minor correction - yes, aarnet's mirror project primarily serves aarnet members, but we do make archives available to australian connected networks for the australian 'net community.
we can't make this available to networks outside australia due to the high cost of international traffic
Slashdot Mirror
for people in australia wanting to have a look
/ 0 /
at this - i've mirrored a copy for download at
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/genome/15jun2000
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/genome/15jun200
-jason
Hi,
/ t /
i'm in the middle of making this available to
users in Australia and NewZealand
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/corel/photopaint
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/corel/photopain
-jason
I'm in the middle of mirroring it at AARNet
for people in australia trying to get this.
it'll probably still be a couple of hours away
but it's still likely to be faster waiting and
downloading locally.
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/staroffice/
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/staroffice/
-jason
maybe it was just me, but i saw no notice to mirrors, so this whole thread is just a furphy in terms of "letting mirrors get in first and mirror before a release is made".
noone told me (a downstream mirror for *.au) and
the first i knew about it was
o the story appeared in slashdot
o i checked and the SRPMS directory which we update automatically was wiped - weeeee, a gig to download from scratch which we have to pay for
o the 7.1 directory started to appear on the norway site.
fun.
-jason
one the the problems with the lack of settlement in the past has been virtually no incentive to host any content in australia - not only does it end up on the deep end of the internet gravity well but you actually have to pay a component of this *back* to american telcos when you ship bytes in that direction in "backchannel" costs. this starts to be significant when you're shipping terabytes of traffic a month and as your outbound is growing quickly, so is the bill.
with some settlement now available perhaps the long term trend will be that it simply makes more business sense now to leave content within australia instead of hosting it offshore.
as a maintainer of a large public archive i can state that we had to shut down international access to it because _more_ people in the US were accessing us than locally in australia, which was incurring horrendous network charges for to keep letting them do this!
-jason
i've put a mirror up of the tar file (and some of
the binaries) while i could still get access
to the server - it's pretty full now.
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/openmotif/
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/openmotif/
-jason
if the folks in *.au are getting as slow
a download speed as i am...
i'm putting up a mirror of this at:
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/games/daikatana/
it should hopefully be finished downloading in a
few more hours... (note: only accessible in *.au
and *.nz)
-jason
i'm making a mirror of this available in *.au/*.nz it's pretty slow updating currently - about 320M down and about the same to still download. you won't be able to access it outside au/nz from our mirror unfortunately.
/
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/linux/suse/i386/
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/linux/suse/i386
-jason
i've started the process of making a mirror
t a/
of the 5.2beta release available in australia
for those who want to try and get it locally
and/or quicker
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/staroffice/5.2be
i'll be trying to mirror the english versions of
linux, SPARC and win32 in that order..
-jason
it actually says
:-(
"the software may not be redistributed without
paying a royalty"
that's kind of annoying - even mirror archives
aren't allowed to redistribute it
-jason
i've put a mirror up for the australian folks ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/starwars/TIE-TANIC- small.mov (or -medium or -large) -jason
I've also done this for *.au/*.nz users.
/ q3demoTEST-1.10-5-NOPAK.i386.tar.gz
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/q3demotest/linux
1,201,886 bytes
-jason
i've now mirror'ed q3demotest for people trying to
download from australia/new zealand (only - unfortunately).
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/q3demotest/
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/q3demotest/
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/glsetup/
-jason
having read through most of the the thread, my $0.02 is:
:-/
;-) will be more complex and your backup system might need some work too.
definitely install virtual adrian to get a better
idea of system tuning you can do and where your
real problems might lie. have you tuned all the system paramaters possible ? ncsize ? turned off
all non essential daemons/apps on the machine ?
mylex controllers seem reliable but were definitely a pain to configure - we're using them on a dec fileserver solution. one downside that appeared was they took 6-8 hours to initialize the array - compared to 1.5 hours for a non mylex controller
we're now switching from DEC+Mylex to Sun+Infortrend who make a very nice scsi-scsi controller. www.infortrend.com - we're using the 3201U2G - 4 Ultra2Wide scsi buses.
don't go to raid unless you know what you're getting yourself into - it's far more complex and expensive in the long term apart from your initial investment in the hardware. you'll have larger spares provisioning, your documentation (you do have some right
my rule of thumb at present is JBOD to 50G, RAID
as a NAS for 50G-500G and SAN (RAID/fibre) for above 500G. you really don't need raid below 50G except for specific performance reasons
it's been an interesting thread to read, since i'm
right in the middle of working on a raid5 server implementation.
-jason
You can find a mirror of XFCE which is accessible
only in Australia/NZ (the cost of international
bandwidth - sigh).
XFCE's web site having been slashdotted is currently turned off..
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/xfce/
-jason
aarnet's mirror project has made a 6.1 mirror
1 /
available at:
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/redhat/redhat-6.
including the iso images.
-jason
i've tried to download from their web and ftp
:-)
site and both appear to be down. i've sent
them email asking if they will be allowing
official mirrors, and also received no reply.
anyone know if these people are awake yet ?
-jason
i've setup a mirror of the 0.3 release in australia since quite a few people have difficulty getting a hold of a 44M file.
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/darwin/
does anyone know anyone in apple to talk to about
actually arranging mirrors ? i can't get anyone to
answer mail..
-jason
i've setup a mirror of the .rm file in australia
_ starwars.rm
for *.au and *.nz users (only).
you can find the file at:
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/starwars/weirdal
(please note the spelling correction from the original filename)
-jason
i find it disappointing that the licence prohibits :-(
mirror sites from making this available.
perhaps ibm don't quite understand what opensource
is all about, when they're still talking about only allowing people to make `backup copies' of software they want feedback and usage on.
-jason
i've run a manual update and m6 is now available
r eleases/m6/
e ases/m6/
at mirror.aarnet in australia. you can get
it from
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mozilla/mozilla/
or
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/mozilla/mozilla/rel
just a minor correction - yes, aarnet's mirror
project primarily serves aarnet members, but we
do make archives available to australian connected
networks for the australian 'net community.
we can't make this available to networks outside
australia due to the high cost of international
traffic
-jason
cheapbytes will probably come out with a $5 cd
sometime soon.
-jason