Not that I usually comment to AC's...but hey, you didn't like the game. There's nothing wrong with you.
To me, EQ2 is for people that are NOT hardcore gamers...WoW is more hardcore. See, I can pull things out of my ass like anyone else.
A game is as hardcore or casual as you want to make it. Either one. I think WoW is just as hardcore as any other MMORPG out there on the market, AND it's more fun. But that's my opinion. You're obviously looking for something else.
EQ2 didn't grab me. Still doesn't grab me. It looks and feels like it was made by a bunch of people punching a time-clock at Sony. There's no passion, there's no vibe to it. It's like Sony threw a bunch of cash at people and said build us a sequel.
Now, if you think hardcore powergamers are people that grind away for loot then that's just sad. I'm a "hardcore powergamer" that grinded(is that a word...grend, grund my way?) his way through EQ1. I'm sick of grinding. Grinding does NOT equate into a "hardcore game" to me. If that's the definition, then I guess all these years of playing these games I was always a casual gamer.
But yes, WoW will evolve, as do all these types of games. You and others like you don't like it. Ok...move on. They can't please everyone!
And please, stop lumping groups of people into one game or another. All people are different. And your argument about a level 60 not having anything to show for with a guy that plays 4 hours a week. Trust me, there are no people that are level 60 that only play 4 hours a week...well, yet. And so what if there are? How is that taking away from your game experience that there is a level 60 out there? There were level 70 people in EQ...did that bug you too? What is this "nothing to show for it"...what do you want to show..a fucking medal?
And WHERE are you pulling these "non true mmo players" from? WTF...are you THAT elitist?
Breaking your Anonymous Coward post down, sounds like you're jealous...you wish to be exclusive. You wish to be a level 60 and no one else can touch you...just so you can parade around like it's a fucking accomplishment! WHO CARES?!?! Who cared that someone was level 70 on EQ? Who cares that you're the highest level on EQ2? No one.
There are ex EQ2 players on wow...there are ex wow players on EQ2...again...BIG FUCKING DEAL!
I'm not a fanboi (again, is this a fucking word?) of either game. I like one over the other. Will I stick with either? I don't stick with games. I play them until I get bored...then I move on. When it starts to grind again, I move on. If the "hardcore mmo player" is someone that sticks to a game that isn't fun for them anymore and just grinds...then the "hardcore mmo player" is a fucking idiot.
I have to ask this...so what? So what that we're causing global warming?
What will that do? Well, it will melt the icecaps at the North and South Pole.
So? Well, it will raise sea levels and flood coastal areas.
So? Are you heartless, millions of people and animals will have to move out and go inland!
So? But we can stop this, this isn't natural! We caused it!
So? I mean, aren't we part of nature? Hasn't there been over the history of the Earth ice ages and warm ages? Things melt, things freeze. Species die, species evolve. Why are we suddenly out of the picture just because we can think and walk on two legs?
The world will evolve around us...if we're here or not. What does everyone want? Want the world to evolve "naturally" without are involvement? How is this possible? How do we know what is natural and what isn't?
I don't mean to sound crass or flippant about all this, but SO WHAT? The world will survive us...trust me. To paraphrase George Carlin, the Earth isn't going anywhere...WE ARE! The Earth will shake us off like a bad case of fleas.
We have absolutely NO idea what the climate will be 100 years from now. The computer models can guess all they want but they're always be just that, guesses. Guesses built upon old guesses modeled after other computer guesses.
And these guesses are no better at predicting the future than Karnac. I can make a prediction also! I predict, according to computer models and research, that the sky will turn purple in 200 years due to the fact that people are spraying more lavender air fresheners into the atmosphere! Yes, in 200 years the sky will be purple. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!
Now give me some grant money so I can study this in more detail....
I want an Intel/AMD based machine...and OSX doesn't work nativly on my machine. Nor on all the other machines that run Linux.
Would buy OSX in a heartbeat if they made an Intel based one...hell, would even buy two! Then get WINE to make XP system calls on it so I can play some of the XP only games...yet run it on OSX on my Intel based computer. Even get Apple to throw some dev money into WINE.
Why can't the world be this simple? One can dream though.
I'm in the same boat, I've played many MMO's also, but I have to say that World of Warcraft has eliminated for the most part camping static spawns or camping in general. You get your quest, do it then move on.
And the dungeons are instanced there also, so you don't have a bunch of people camping bosses to get "phat leetz".
SO far so good for WoW. And yes, it's a hardcore MMORPG, despite what a few people say. Check it out.
It's like the editors here should walk up to Taco or CowboyNeal and take away their mouse and slap their hand and say "you know you're not suppose to be posting stories" then make them go to their rooms.
They would no more charge to usage as they do their search engine.
I DO see them having advertisements like they do on Google now...not obnoxious ad banners, but side bars.
Come on, Dvorak is another fear-monger like all the other ones out there that wish to stir up controversy so people will go to his site and click his ads. I mean, you all DO know this right? I don't have to tell you this...
The Bean itself is voilating copyrights of the buildings that it reflects...the reflections themselves are "reproductions" of the buildings that are designed by artists and builders.
I think the designers of the Prudential Building should charge the designers and the City of Chicago for the reproduction of their building without their permission.
The people that post racist remarks anonymously aren't really racists for the most part...they're simply trying to upset people and "rage" the forum ala myg0t.
They want to piss people off and the quickest and most effective way is to post racial remarks.
Real racists...and belive me I grew up in a racist environment with Klan rallies going on about a mile from my house...are usually up front about their racism and shout it out non-anonymously.
Now, there are exceptions of course.
Re:WoW, EQ2, DAoC, et al vs. IGE.com -- when?
on
NYT on World of Warcraft
·
· Score: 3, Interesting
Actually, I see this as the "next big thing" in litigation.
First we had the RIAA going after Napster and Kaaza and others...can still get.mp3's but it's no where near as easy as it was with Napster.
Now we have the MPAA going after P2P bittorrent sites...fight not as easy as it was with Napster...but they're still throwing out lawsuits as fast as their little junior associates can print them off.
Next I belive the game companies are going to not only go after pirated games (already been doing this to mediocre success) but also going after IGE type companies and game cheaters and hackers like on Steam.
Will it work...probably as well as the others have done...meaning making a small dent yet not really doing much.
Album is not dead. Case in point: Green Days "American Idiot".
I'm not a fan of Green Day, I kinda liked their couple of songs that came out a few years ago...but wasn't like a rabid fan. Didn't listen to their other albums and pretty much flew under my radar for many years.
Then someone got me "American Idiot" for Christmas and I popped it in and WHAM...I was blown away. I mean, I really enjoyed it. And it was a real bona-fide album with an overall theme...remember them?
Exactly. It's a world of fear....not just a nation.
We were better off when we had the Soviets and Communism to fear. Back then, the media was pretty much under control and not the fear-spewing idiots they are now. But after the fall of the Soviet Union, there was nothing really to fear for a short while....the politicians didn't have anyone to rally against, the media didn't have fear-laden headlines to sell commercials and papers.
It's a fiasco now...with terrorists behind every tree, global warming melting the entire Earth, liberal media vs. conservative media....dogs & cats living together: MASS HYSTERIA!
I'm sure quite a bit of the equipment could be used in the music industry for repairing and testing tube amp components on the cheap.
Tubes are still HUGE in the guitar world. Sure, modeling amps can get close to old tube amps, but still nothing sounds quite the same as a overdriven tube amp with that crunch and distortion.
Plug a Les Paul into a Marshall SLP-1959 or JCM45 or even a Blackfaced Fender Deluxe from 1966 and you'll see what I mean. All tube driven.
Just because you think the equipment is old doesn't mean that it's not treasured somewhere else.
It would tag everything in Linux and Linux itself as illegal and a "hacking tool" because I'm sure they all think that anyone that uses Linux is a hacker/cracker and by using Linux itself, which is free and powerfull, goes against buying things in general.
It would also probably call the cops on you as a terrorist like the poor bloke that donated money using Lynx.
(the above was being sarcastic...I love Linux, use it every day and in no way really mean to impune the reputation of anyone that uses the fine fine software known as Linux.)
ok, according to Apple's warranty (this is there basic 1 year warranty):
(d) to damage caused by service (including upgrades and expansions) performed by anyone who is not a representative of Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider;
This is for ALL their products under the 1 year warranty as ahacop listed in his link above.
link spelled out is: http://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/hardware. html
If you notice, it's not a special warranty for the Mac Mini...it's their normal 1 year warranty.
So why am I beating everyone over the head with this? Well, it's saying even their high-end, easy to open Dual G5 machines have to be upgraded at Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider! Yet no one seems to be harping about this...ever. So why is everyone pointing it out about the Mini? The original iMacs were hard to open also, yet opening them and upgrading the memory didn't void the warranty.
As long as you don't ruin something on the inside from being stupid, you don't void the warranty. But this is true for ANY of their computers.
Usually there is a big sticker on the outside of a case saying "no servicable parts inside, opening will void your warranty". Does the Mac Mini have some type of warning on it's case?
OK...does Apple have an official statement on their website about any of their Macs not voiding the warranty when you open them up? Any official statement about putting in 3rd party RAM in their G5 machines? How about an offical statement stating that the warranty won't be voided if you put in a second HD on any of their machines?
I guess you can't. Everyone with a Mac that upgraded their RAM by themselves have been busted!
You won't void your warranty by upgrading your RAM by yourself.
I'm not an Apple guy and even I notice many people like you who enjoy spreading this FUD around. I mean, come on. Hack about it's power or low system specs or anything else, but don't spread FUD like this.
It's more effective to go after real issues and not create un-true ones.
From another site:
I spoke with the product manager for the Mac mini today to clarify a few facts.
1. Yes, it will boot headless, meaning with no display or video device connected, enabling you to have what I like to call an iServe.
2. While it is strongly recommended that you only have an Apple Authorized Service Provider crack it open and install RAM, hard drives, Airport and Bluetooth, it will NOT void your warranty if you do it yourself. As is standard operating procedure, however, anything you break while attempting anything on your own is not Apple's responsibility and will not be covered under warranty. I think that is pretty much common sense.
3. Airport and Bluetooth can, in fact, be added after purchase. AirPort Extreme card and Bluetooth module attach to the Mac mini's motherboard via a special connector and will be sold together as a kit for $129.mac mini insides
4. RAM is the most accessible upgrade once you get the case off. That much is clear from the picture.
5. All upgrades other than RAM are not as accessible, but accessing them won't void your warranty, with list item #2 above in mind.
Well, Mr. Anonymous Coward, the guy wrote in his post that he didn't think it was a "killer system". I wrote back that I did think it was a "killer system".
It's all perspective. One man's killer system is another persons toy.
Also, in case you've never had moderation points, anyone anywhere with moderation points can moderate anywhere and everywhere...it's not like only Apple people get mod points to mod in Apple related stories.
But anyway, getting back to your post...yes, I was saying exactly "I think this, so it is". Right on the money. Couldn't have said it better myself. I think that the Mac Mini with a Gig of RAM and DVD burner is a killer system, so it IS a killer system (now here it comes...wait for it....it's right here) FOR ME. A killer system FOR ME.
So yes, STFU. It's called opinion. The guy isn't "right" to say it isn't a killer sytem any more than I was "right" in saying it was. (in case you're playing at home, you can also substitute the word "wrong" with "right" and get the same results).
Also, someone that doesn't post with their real name in fear of mods shouldn't talk about banality.
Slashdot Mirror
They haven't. I haven't seen anything either..and this would be ALL over the boards if they had said it.
Not that I usually comment to AC's...but hey, you didn't like the game. There's nothing wrong with you.
To me, EQ2 is for people that are NOT hardcore gamers...WoW is more hardcore. See, I can pull things out of my ass like anyone else.
A game is as hardcore or casual as you want to make it. Either one. I think WoW is just as hardcore as any other MMORPG out there on the market, AND it's more fun. But that's my opinion. You're obviously looking for something else.
EQ2 didn't grab me. Still doesn't grab me. It looks and feels like it was made by a bunch of people punching a time-clock at Sony. There's no passion, there's no vibe to it. It's like Sony threw a bunch of cash at people and said build us a sequel.
Now, if you think hardcore powergamers are people that grind away for loot then that's just sad. I'm a "hardcore powergamer" that grinded(is that a word...grend, grund my way?) his way through EQ1. I'm sick of grinding. Grinding does NOT equate into a "hardcore game" to me. If that's the definition, then I guess all these years of playing these games I was always a casual gamer.
But yes, WoW will evolve, as do all these types of games. You and others like you don't like it. Ok...move on. They can't please everyone!
And please, stop lumping groups of people into one game or another. All people are different. And your argument about a level 60 not having anything to show for with a guy that plays 4 hours a week. Trust me, there are no people that are level 60 that only play 4 hours a week...well, yet. And so what if there are? How is that taking away from your game experience that there is a level 60 out there? There were level 70 people in EQ...did that bug you too? What is this "nothing to show for it"...what do you want to show..a fucking medal?
And WHERE are you pulling these "non true mmo players" from? WTF...are you THAT elitist?
Breaking your Anonymous Coward post down, sounds like you're jealous...you wish to be exclusive. You wish to be a level 60 and no one else can touch you...just so you can parade around like it's a fucking accomplishment! WHO CARES?!?! Who cared that someone was level 70 on EQ? Who cares that you're the highest level on EQ2? No one.
There are ex EQ2 players on wow...there are ex wow players on EQ2...again...BIG FUCKING DEAL!
I'm not a fanboi (again, is this a fucking word?) of either game. I like one over the other. Will I stick with either? I don't stick with games. I play them until I get bored...then I move on. When it starts to grind again, I move on. If the "hardcore mmo player" is someone that sticks to a game that isn't fun for them anymore and just grinds...then the "hardcore mmo player" is a fucking idiot.
I have to ask this...so what? So what that we're causing global warming?
What will that do?
Well, it will melt the icecaps at the North and South Pole.
So?
Well, it will raise sea levels and flood coastal areas.
So?
Are you heartless, millions of people and animals will have to move out and go inland!
So?
But we can stop this, this isn't natural! We caused it!
So? I mean, aren't we part of nature? Hasn't there been over the history of the Earth ice ages and warm ages? Things melt, things freeze. Species die, species evolve. Why are we suddenly out of the picture just because we can think and walk on two legs?
The world will evolve around us...if we're here or not. What does everyone want? Want the world to evolve "naturally" without are involvement? How is this possible? How do we know what is natural and what isn't?
I don't mean to sound crass or flippant about all this, but SO WHAT? The world will survive us...trust me. To paraphrase George Carlin, the Earth isn't going anywhere...WE ARE! The Earth will shake us off like a bad case of fleas.
We have absolutely NO idea what the climate will be 100 years from now. The computer models can guess all they want but they're always be just that, guesses. Guesses built upon old guesses modeled after other computer guesses.
And these guesses are no better at predicting the future than Karnac. I can make a prediction also! I predict, according to computer models and research, that the sky will turn purple in 200 years due to the fact that people are spraying more lavender air fresheners into the atmosphere! Yes, in 200 years the sky will be purple. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!
Now give me some grant money so I can study this in more detail....
Great food? In hell, the English are the chefs!
True, but OSX doesn't work on my machine.
I want an Intel/AMD based machine...and OSX doesn't work nativly on my machine. Nor on all the other machines that run Linux.
Would buy OSX in a heartbeat if they made an Intel based one...hell, would even buy two! Then get WINE to make XP system calls on it so I can play some of the XP only games...yet run it on OSX on my Intel based computer. Even get Apple to throw some dev money into WINE.
Why can't the world be this simple? One can dream though.
I'm in the same boat, I've played many MMO's also, but I have to say that World of Warcraft has eliminated for the most part camping static spawns or camping in general. You get your quest, do it then move on.
And the dungeons are instanced there also, so you don't have a bunch of people camping bosses to get "phat leetz".
SO far so good for WoW. And yes, it's a hardcore MMORPG, despite what a few people say. Check it out.
It's like the editors here should walk up to Taco or CowboyNeal and take away their mouse and slap their hand and say "you know you're not suppose to be posting stories" then make them go to their rooms.
They would no more charge to usage as they do their search engine.
I DO see them having advertisements like they do on Google now...not obnoxious ad banners, but side bars.
Come on, Dvorak is another fear-monger like all the other ones out there that wish to stir up controversy so people will go to his site and click his ads. I mean, you all DO know this right? I don't have to tell you this...
The Bean itself is voilating copyrights of the buildings that it reflects...the reflections themselves are "reproductions" of the buildings that are designed by artists and builders.
I think the designers of the Prudential Building should charge the designers and the City of Chicago for the reproduction of their building without their permission.
The people that post racist remarks anonymously aren't really racists for the most part...they're simply trying to upset people and "rage" the forum ala myg0t.
They want to piss people off and the quickest and most effective way is to post racial remarks.
Real racists...and belive me I grew up in a racist environment with Klan rallies going on about a mile from my house...are usually up front about their racism and shout it out non-anonymously.
Now, there are exceptions of course.
Actually, I see this as the "next big thing" in litigation.
.mp3's but it's no where near as easy as it was with Napster.
First we had the RIAA going after Napster and Kaaza and others...can still get
Now we have the MPAA going after P2P bittorrent sites...fight not as easy as it was with Napster...but they're still throwing out lawsuits as fast as their little junior associates can print them off.
Next I belive the game companies are going to not only go after pirated games (already been doing this to mediocre success) but also going after IGE type companies and game cheaters and hackers like on Steam.
Will it work...probably as well as the others have done...meaning making a small dent yet not really doing much.
Album is not dead. Case in point: Green Days "American Idiot".
I'm not a fan of Green Day, I kinda liked their couple of songs that came out a few years ago...but wasn't like a rabid fan. Didn't listen to their other albums and pretty much flew under my radar for many years.
Then someone got me "American Idiot" for Christmas and I popped it in and WHAM...I was blown away. I mean, I really enjoyed it. And it was a real bona-fide album with an overall theme...remember them?
Oh well, I see the album going ok.
I remember this and Rogue as the first two games I ever played on the Amiga, right when it first came out.
The Former Soviet Union: You will never find a more retched hive of villainy and hackerdom...we must be cautious.
Exactly. It's a world of fear....not just a nation.
We were better off when we had the Soviets and Communism to fear. Back then, the media was pretty much under control and not the fear-spewing idiots they are now. But after the fall of the Soviet Union, there was nothing really to fear for a short while....the politicians didn't have anyone to rally against, the media didn't have fear-laden headlines to sell commercials and papers.
It's a fiasco now...with terrorists behind every tree, global warming melting the entire Earth, liberal media vs. conservative media....dogs & cats living together: MASS HYSTERIA!
I'm sure quite a bit of the equipment could be used in the music industry for repairing and testing tube amp components on the cheap.
Tubes are still HUGE in the guitar world. Sure, modeling amps can get close to old tube amps, but still nothing sounds quite the same as a overdriven tube amp with that crunch and distortion.
Plug a Les Paul into a Marshall SLP-1959 or JCM45 or even a Blackfaced Fender Deluxe from 1966 and you'll see what I mean. All tube driven.
Just because you think the equipment is old doesn't mean that it's not treasured somewhere else.
Nah, I lump rabid sports fans in the same catagory of Star Trek fans.
Let's look at this.
1. Both fans get dressed up as their favorite character/player.
2. They both will buy lots of memorabilia.
3. Both are always glued to the TV to watch their show/game.
4. Both talk non-stop with other people about their show/game...even with people that couldn't give a shit.
5. Both know minute trivia about their favorite show/game.
But one is generally accepted and welcomed in pursuing their passion while the other is shunned and joked and beat-up by the other.
It would tag everything in Linux and Linux itself as illegal and a "hacking tool" because I'm sure they all think that anyone that uses Linux is a hacker/cracker and by using Linux itself, which is free and powerfull, goes against buying things in general.
It would also probably call the cops on you as a terrorist like the poor bloke that donated money using Lynx.
(the above was being sarcastic...I love Linux, use it every day and in no way really mean to impune the reputation of anyone that uses the fine fine software known as Linux.)
well, there you go...the "smoking gun" if you will. There is the official Apple stance on installing memory into your Mac Mini.
Thanks.
ok, according to Apple's warranty (this is there basic 1 year warranty):
. html
(d) to damage caused by service (including upgrades and expansions) performed by anyone who is not a representative of Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider;
This is for ALL their products under the 1 year warranty as ahacop listed in his link above.
link spelled out is:
http://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/hardware
If you notice, it's not a special warranty for the Mac Mini...it's their normal 1 year warranty.
So why am I beating everyone over the head with this? Well, it's saying even their high-end, easy to open Dual G5 machines have to be upgraded at Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider! Yet no one seems to be harping about this...ever. So why is everyone pointing it out about the Mini? The original iMacs were hard to open also, yet opening them and upgrading the memory didn't void the warranty.
As long as you don't ruin something on the inside from being stupid, you don't void the warranty. But this is true for ANY of their computers.
Usually there is a big sticker on the outside of a case saying "no servicable parts inside, opening will void your warranty". Does the Mac Mini have some type of warning on it's case?
Yeah, that's a great scene. Just downloaded that last week.
WAIT...um...no. I have the DVD of Matrix. Yeah, right here. Yes-sir...nothing to see here.
(scrambles to put on coat to head to Wal-Mart and buy a copy...better make that two just to be sure).
OK...does Apple have an official statement on their website about any of their Macs not voiding the warranty when you open them up? Any official statement about putting in 3rd party RAM in their G5 machines? How about an offical statement stating that the warranty won't be voided if you put in a second HD on any of their machines?
I guess you can't. Everyone with a Mac that upgraded their RAM by themselves have been busted!
You won't void your warranty by upgrading your RAM by yourself.
I'm not an Apple guy and even I notice many people like you who enjoy spreading this FUD around. I mean, come on. Hack about it's power or low system specs or anything else, but don't spread FUD like this.
It's more effective to go after real issues and not create un-true ones.
From another site:
I spoke with the product manager for the Mac mini today to clarify a few facts.
1. Yes, it will boot headless, meaning with no display or video device connected, enabling you to have what I like to call an iServe.
2. While it is strongly recommended that you only have an Apple Authorized Service Provider crack it open and install RAM, hard drives, Airport and Bluetooth, it will NOT void your warranty if you do it yourself. As is standard operating procedure, however, anything you break while attempting anything on your own is not Apple's responsibility and will not be covered under warranty. I think that is pretty much common sense.
3. Airport and Bluetooth can, in fact, be added after purchase. AirPort Extreme card and Bluetooth module attach to the Mac mini's motherboard via a special connector and will be sold together as a kit for $129.mac mini insides
4. RAM is the most accessible upgrade once you get the case off. That much is clear from the picture.
5. All upgrades other than RAM are not as accessible, but accessing them won't void your warranty, with list item #2 above in mind.
Well, Mr. Anonymous Coward, the guy wrote in his post that he didn't think it was a "killer system". I wrote back that I did think it was a "killer system".
It's all perspective. One man's killer system is another persons toy.
Also, in case you've never had moderation points, anyone anywhere with moderation points can moderate anywhere and everywhere...it's not like only Apple people get mod points to mod in Apple related stories.
But anyway, getting back to your post...yes, I was saying exactly "I think this, so it is". Right on the money. Couldn't have said it better myself. I think that the Mac Mini with a Gig of RAM and DVD burner is a killer system, so it IS a killer system (now here it comes...wait for it....it's right here) FOR ME. A killer system FOR ME.
So yes, STFU. It's called opinion. The guy isn't "right" to say it isn't a killer sytem any more than I was "right" in saying it was. (in case you're playing at home, you can also substitute the word "wrong" with "right" and get the same results).
Also, someone that doesn't post with their real name in fear of mods shouldn't talk about banality.
If you haven't owned a MAC in 8 years how can you pronounce it "the best OS on the planet"
As I said in my post, where I worked I used Macs everyday. I used to be in the pre-press business.