I suppose speed limits of 30 mph in a residential area is purely motivated towards speeding tickets income and nothing to do with the 20% fatality at 30mph vs 40 mph where its 90% fatality rate. Seems like this are speed limits imposed by engineers. Of course now they are pushing for 20mph in residential areas which decreases the chance of death to around 2.5%. Of course you could argue its political when over 3 thousand people in the UK alone are killed on roads each year. You can throw out whatever excuse for driving irresponsibly, but don't think your fooling everyone.
£Students in grades five through eight, particularly those from disadvantaged families, tend to post lower scores once these technologies arrive in their home."
I'm guessing its largely scores in sports related activities.
Superstition? Yep ban people from all those sort of things in Schools and no we don't need to loose Christmas, people don't need mythological events in order to have a public holiday. Besides Christmas is actually just an astrological event when the three stars of Orion (three kings) point to both the Brightest star in the Sky, Sirius (the light bringer) and the rising sun which then begins lenghtening days towards summer. Magical water-walking men came along later.
Though our discussion is somewhat off topic from the original posts your continued but unsupported claims of Christian disassociation from these atrocities continues to vex.
What part of Christian pastors murdering children accused of witchcraft when the bible tells them to (Exodus 22:18 (King James Version) "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.") are you claiming is actually just local tribal beliefs? Or do you mean Christianity itself is just a local tribal belief?
Oh noes Mr X. We must introduce laws to prevent terminally ill people like you seeking treatment elsewhere. Even though our own treatments can and usually will take ten years or more to be approved and much stem cell treatment is currently being stifled by superstitious cultists. We must take away your right to do this because we believe your too stupid to make an informed decision of your own.
The "value of a statistical life" is $6.9 million in today's dollars.
Wow that is significantly more than in the UK (sorry off-topic but I think its interesting).
A friend of mine is a traffic engineer, basically he looks at problem junctions and is trained to build roundabouts everywhere he can.
He explained to me that in an accident hot-spot, if the estimated costs to improve the safety of the problem run higher than 750 thousand pounds, they do nothing until there is a fatal accident. Placing the governmental value on human life at the UK at this threshold. Granted this was about 8 years ago so the figure could be higher but still nowhere near 7 million like it is claimed in your linked article.
I see no evidence to support your claim and believe it to be completely untrue. It is not a tribal thing, it is a Christian thing. These are Christian church elders denouncing the children as witches and not tribe leaders. They are doing EXACTLY what it says in the Bible to do, nothing more. You can try and palm the blame elsewhere but that would be a lie and giving the native American argument seems very random and irrelevant considering it's nothing to do with the Bible and they are not Christians.
I must add that I am not in any way condoning acts of extremist Muslims, personally I think superstition should be banned from all schools; But it gets my blood burning to see hypocrisy from Christians claiming the moral highground when their own flock are murdering children in the name of Jesus.
The difference is that the Catholic Church isn't sending armies out anymore, while the Muslims are still widely engaged in slaughtering people (including other muslims) if they don't think like they do.
All forms of religious fanaticism are unacceptable.
What about the Christians murdering children in Africa due to accusations of witchcraft, for which the Holy Bible clearly spells out the death penalty. These are Christians murdering people for their religion to this very day.
I'd also like to point out that its just one nutter filing the lawsuit and its only 'aparently' that the police are investigating. This seems more a case of the west typically over-reporting religious lunatics, cashing in on recent terrorist acts to peddle their scaremongering news rags. No doubt other religions are over reporting the Christian lunatics, the God Hates Fags people etc. It's hardly any surprise to me that opposing religions cannot agree on the colour of turd when they only see what they want to see. When you think about pulling out the recent Islamic agression card, consider the fact that Bush called the war in Iraq a crusade on TV. How over reported do you think that would have been and to many that is a religious war of agression. So don't kid yourself that the religious hatred and violence is in ANY way one sided.
I honestly think that we need to put laws into place preventing people from having irrational superstitious beliefs and be allowed anywhere near a big red button.
The article says he is 19, so a bit old for juvenile detention but also says he was arrested but does not say charged. I'm just guessing but it seems more likely he will be detained in a hospital as his mental state is breaking the 'danger to himself or others' rule. I think a criminal record over this would be unlikely as its more tantamount to thought crime. Then again I suppose he could be hit over threats and intimidation, it probably depends on if the people who arrest him are genuinely competent or if they are assholes who need their weekly convictions score higher in order to win a pack of biscuits or what ever corporate motivational bullshit hoops they are being forced to jump through.
All this ranting about privacy seems quite naive to me. I wont say who I worked for, but I worked for a year reading internet chat logs that filters pulled out with 'combinations of words'. Mostly we were picking out suicide threats, murder threats, paedophile grooming and school shooting threats. The vast majority of it was just a load of crap and reading through this kind of stuff for up to ten hours a day sure can make someone go a bit peculiar, but to think that allowing some of the indescribably horrific things I have read over that time to go unreported to the police because of a desperate need for privacy bothers me. The people scanning this detail train their eyes to sift masses of information very quickly picking out key words and phrases but rarely ever actually reading or taking in anything not relevant.
Having a job interviewer with your private messages and your browser history before them is clearly unacceptable but stopping children from being raped and murdered seems somewhat acceptable to me. It is possible to have one without having both but knee jerk reacting with limited facts isn't going to help anyone.
Am I the only person here who thinks its great that the FBI are doing this? The kid clearly needs help and waiting until he blows away a few of his classmates before doing anything about it is so last decade.
Please note for those who may be hard of hearing with regards to sarcasm. My post above is in no way meant to represent an accurate figure. It is multiplying an estimate by a conjecture which could never give a figure that even remotely reassembles the truth, it is merely put in place to show the folly of trusting fanboy statistics but that does not mean I in any way, endorse self perpetuating media hype in order to peddle half baked stories thinly disguised as journalism.
Canada VS Foxconn statistics are mentioned above in a very misleading manner. It's simple maths and hopefully mine are not so full of mistakes that I humiliate myself, but here goes; 17.7 people per hundred thousand killed themselves in Canada in 2004 (http://www.socialreport.msd.govt.nz/health/suicide.html).
Foxconn actually employs 420,000 in China not 800,000 as quoted above which is their worldwide figure. Also the 13 suicides as of May and not the full year, lets estimate another 17 for the rest of the year making a rough estimated total of 30. 30 suicides out of 420 thousand employess gives a suicide rate of 7.14 per hundred thousand. However this is figures purely for suicides at work. Now remembering that these were all figures of people who kill themselves at work. According to this article (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37402529/ns/business-careers/) out of 33,000 suicides in the USA in 2008, 256 of them were done at work. Some quick maths tells me that roughly 0.76% of people in the USA in 2008 killed themselves at work. Plug that into our 7.14 per hundred thousand of Foxconn suicides 'at work' and we get a suicide rate of factory workers is roughly 543 per hundred thousand.
Well that's only 30 times the suicide rate of Canada. It must be great to work for Foxconn!!!!!1111
I'm not so sure the investors of most video game movie spin offs are actually interested in making a decent film. What they are presented with are two options, make a very expensive film at huge risk and try to coerce non franchise fans to see the reenaction of a video game, or throw a tiny budget at an existing game franchise with a guaranteed cinema turn out of curious game fans desperate to feel the love they felt for their favourite games splashed all over the big screen. Its exploiting a fan base for a quick buck and it works.
A Psychiatrist once told me that multiple personality syndrome is diagnosed in only one very specific demographic on the whole planet and that is within the American legal system.
This extradition case is the vanguard on the war against UK personal freedom. The right not to be extradited to America without any local trial or evidence produced, where America have many differing states that allow them to not only choose which local laws best suit the conviction but which state holds the longest sentencing (Texas is popular for this I believe). Sounds unlikely? Remember the NatWest Three, were three British citizens ended up being extradited to Texas and consequently were convicted of an offence committed in the UK against a UK bank, where said offence is not even illegal in the UK. Luckily for Americans the extradition treaty is strictly a one way process.
The new UK government opposed the Gary McKinnon extradition but were defeated 290 to 236 votes in the house of commons. Of course now they are at the helm it seems likely to me the move will now be blocked.
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I suppose speed limits of 30 mph in a residential area is purely motivated towards speeding tickets income and nothing to do with the 20% fatality at 30mph vs 40 mph where its 90% fatality rate. Seems like this are speed limits imposed by engineers. Of course now they are pushing for 20mph in residential areas which decreases the chance of death to around 2.5%. Of course you could argue its political when over 3 thousand people in the UK alone are killed on roads each year. You can throw out whatever excuse for driving irresponsibly, but don't think your fooling everyone.
figures from Sunday Times which may or may not be 100% accurate but they paint a decent picture. http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/transport/article3941769.ece
At least the video hasn't reached youtube yet.
Tell me about it. Just last week I tweeted an order to vaporize planet Vulkar, but the idiots vaporized Vultar.
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£Students in grades five through eight, particularly those from disadvantaged families, tend to post lower scores once these technologies arrive in their home."
I'm guessing its largely scores in sports related activities.
Though our discussion is somewhat off topic from the original posts your continued but unsupported claims of Christian disassociation from these atrocities continues to vex.
What part of Christian pastors murdering children accused of witchcraft when the bible tells them to (Exodus 22:18 (King James Version) "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.") are you claiming is actually just local tribal beliefs? Or do you mean Christianity itself is just a local tribal belief?
Oh noes Mr X. We must introduce laws to prevent terminally ill people like you seeking treatment elsewhere. Even though our own treatments can and usually will take ten years or more to be approved and much stem cell treatment is currently being stifled by superstitious cultists. We must take away your right to do this because we believe your too stupid to make an informed decision of your own.
Using child porn to take away our freedom. How low can these guys stoop?
The "value of a statistical life" is $6.9 million in today's dollars.
Wow that is significantly more than in the UK (sorry off-topic but I think its interesting). A friend of mine is a traffic engineer, basically he looks at problem junctions and is trained to build roundabouts everywhere he can. He explained to me that in an accident hot-spot, if the estimated costs to improve the safety of the problem run higher than 750 thousand pounds, they do nothing until there is a fatal accident. Placing the governmental value on human life at the UK at this threshold. Granted this was about 8 years ago so the figure could be higher but still nowhere near 7 million like it is claimed in your linked article.
I see no evidence to support your claim and believe it to be completely untrue. It is not a tribal thing, it is a Christian thing. These are Christian church elders denouncing the children as witches and not tribe leaders. They are doing EXACTLY what it says in the Bible to do, nothing more. You can try and palm the blame elsewhere but that would be a lie and giving the native American argument seems very random and irrelevant considering it's nothing to do with the Bible and they are not Christians.
I must add that I am not in any way condoning acts of extremist Muslims, personally I think superstition should be banned from all schools; But it gets my blood burning to see hypocrisy from Christians claiming the moral highground when their own flock are murdering children in the name of Jesus.
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/episode-guide/series-43/episode-1
Hmm moderators seem to be very pro-Christian today. I guess all this media scaremongering works even here.
The difference is that the Catholic Church isn't sending armies out anymore, while the Muslims are still widely engaged in slaughtering people (including other muslims) if they don't think like they do. All forms of religious fanaticism are unacceptable.
What about the Christians murdering children in Africa due to accusations of witchcraft, for which the Holy Bible clearly spells out the death penalty. These are Christians murdering people for their religion to this very day.
I'd also like to point out that its just one nutter filing the lawsuit and its only 'aparently' that the police are investigating. This seems more a case of the west typically over-reporting religious lunatics, cashing in on recent terrorist acts to peddle their scaremongering news rags. No doubt other religions are over reporting the Christian lunatics, the God Hates Fags people etc. It's hardly any surprise to me that opposing religions cannot agree on the colour of turd when they only see what they want to see. When you think about pulling out the recent Islamic agression card, consider the fact that Bush called the war in Iraq a crusade on TV. How over reported do you think that would have been and to many that is a religious war of agression. So don't kid yourself that the religious hatred and violence is in ANY way one sided.
I honestly think that we need to put laws into place preventing people from having irrational superstitious beliefs and be allowed anywhere near a big red button.
Its a flash site. Are you perhaps rather foolishly on an iPad? I signed up and I am from the UK
Besides the fact that printer ink costs more per ml than vintage champaign.
It wont be long now before this liberalist Zeitgeist allows perverts like me into women only gyms.
The article says he is 19, so a bit old for juvenile detention but also says he was arrested but does not say charged. I'm just guessing but it seems more likely he will be detained in a hospital as his mental state is breaking the 'danger to himself or others' rule. I think a criminal record over this would be unlikely as its more tantamount to thought crime. Then again I suppose he could be hit over threats and intimidation, it probably depends on if the people who arrest him are genuinely competent or if they are assholes who need their weekly convictions score higher in order to win a pack of biscuits or what ever corporate motivational bullshit hoops they are being forced to jump through.
All this ranting about privacy seems quite naive to me. I wont say who I worked for, but I worked for a year reading internet chat logs that filters pulled out with 'combinations of words'. Mostly we were picking out suicide threats, murder threats, paedophile grooming and school shooting threats. The vast majority of it was just a load of crap and reading through this kind of stuff for up to ten hours a day sure can make someone go a bit peculiar, but to think that allowing some of the indescribably horrific things I have read over that time to go unreported to the police because of a desperate need for privacy bothers me. The people scanning this detail train their eyes to sift masses of information very quickly picking out key words and phrases but rarely ever actually reading or taking in anything not relevant.
Having a job interviewer with your private messages and your browser history before them is clearly unacceptable but stopping children from being raped and murdered seems somewhat acceptable to me. It is possible to have one without having both but knee jerk reacting with limited facts isn't going to help anyone.
Am I the only person here who thinks its great that the FBI are doing this? The kid clearly needs help and waiting until he blows away a few of his classmates before doing anything about it is so last decade.
Everyone who has cancer also sleeps, therefore sleep must give you cancer.
Please note for those who may be hard of hearing with regards to sarcasm. My post above is in no way meant to represent an accurate figure. It is multiplying an estimate by a conjecture which could never give a figure that even remotely reassembles the truth, it is merely put in place to show the folly of trusting fanboy statistics but that does not mean I in any way, endorse self perpetuating media hype in order to peddle half baked stories thinly disguised as journalism.
Canada VS Foxconn statistics are mentioned above in a very misleading manner. It's simple maths and hopefully mine are not so full of mistakes that I humiliate myself, but here goes; 17.7 people per hundred thousand killed themselves in Canada in 2004 (http://www.socialreport.msd.govt.nz/health/suicide.html).
Foxconn actually employs 420,000 in China not 800,000 as quoted above which is their worldwide figure. Also the 13 suicides as of May and not the full year, lets estimate another 17 for the rest of the year making a rough estimated total of 30. 30 suicides out of 420 thousand employess gives a suicide rate of 7.14 per hundred thousand. However this is figures purely for suicides at work. Now remembering that these were all figures of people who kill themselves at work. According to this article (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37402529/ns/business-careers/) out of 33,000 suicides in the USA in 2008, 256 of them were done at work. Some quick maths tells me that roughly 0.76% of people in the USA in 2008 killed themselves at work. Plug that into our 7.14 per hundred thousand of Foxconn suicides 'at work' and we get a suicide rate of factory workers is roughly 543 per hundred thousand.
Well that's only 30 times the suicide rate of Canada. It must be great to work for Foxconn!!!!!1111
Sterilise your children.
I'm not so sure the investors of most video game movie spin offs are actually interested in making a decent film. What they are presented with are two options, make a very expensive film at huge risk and try to coerce non franchise fans to see the reenaction of a video game, or throw a tiny budget at an existing game franchise with a guaranteed cinema turn out of curious game fans desperate to feel the love they felt for their favourite games splashed all over the big screen. Its exploiting a fan base for a quick buck and it works.
A Psychiatrist once told me that multiple personality syndrome is diagnosed in only one very specific demographic on the whole planet and that is within the American legal system.
This extradition case is the vanguard on the war against UK personal freedom. The right not to be extradited to America without any local trial or evidence produced, where America have many differing states that allow them to not only choose which local laws best suit the conviction but which state holds the longest sentencing (Texas is popular for this I believe). Sounds unlikely? Remember the NatWest Three, were three British citizens ended up being extradited to Texas and consequently were convicted of an offence committed in the UK against a UK bank, where said offence is not even illegal in the UK. Luckily for Americans the extradition treaty is strictly a one way process.
The new UK government opposed the Gary McKinnon extradition but were defeated 290 to 236 votes in the house of commons. Of course now they are at the helm it seems likely to me the move will now be blocked.