Are modern G4 towers quieter and/or cooler than comparable x86 workstations?
Yes/Yes
Is it wiser to spend money on memory or megahertz?
Generally, with Mac OS X, RAM. However, the dual-processor systems are a good buy for the power. Don't run OS X on anything less than 384 megs of RAM. 1 gig is not too much either.
Is it best to buy everything directly from Apple, or just a minimum to be fleshed out with cheaper, after-market add-ons?
That depends on how much your time is worth. If you optimize for time and have the money, get it all from Apple. If you have a little time and know-how and wanna save a nice fat lump, DIY. Was this really a question that needed answering?
What's the best video option for dual-head on Jaguar?
Jaguar? I couldn't find the specs for it on Apple's website. I'd worry about Mac OS 10.1's dual-head options, since that's the released, shipping OS.
Does OS X make SMP worth the investment?
Yes. Would it be for *nix under x86?
Is the SCSI performance gain great enough to be worth the investment over IDE?
What are you planning on doing with the thing?
My overall advice to you is: Google. Research on your own. Did you need Slashdot, of all places, for any of these answers? Hell, MacSlash is Mac-centric. Why not ask there? BUt I do realize your need to spout off and show everyone on Slashdo how much money you have and how 1337 you are for being a UNIX weenie.
I'll think twice next time before I think anything with "Open" in the name is secure-- Apache needs to change licenses to it's not Open Source anymore or *something.*
I still have more fun on my 2600 most of the time than I do on my GameCube (though the Godzilla game is... OH GOD CUMMING... *wh00* the best thing computers have ever been used for).
BMX Derby was awesome, there was a Tron game that wasn't bad, Ghosts & Goblins, Pitfall... Stuff that even today stands on its own when compared to other games' playability. I don't need 128 bits to click a button and make my man skip on alligaotor heads!
Ryan Meader sat back in his fold-up chair, rocking gently back and forth with his feet under the front two legs. He ran a finger through his greasy, ratty hair and stroked his equally disgusting auburn goatée. He was deep in thought and hadn't even noticed that his burning session had ended and his new CD full of gay porn movies was ready to pack away with the dozens of others in his CD binder.
For the fifth time this month, Ryan had received a call from a collection agency demanding payment on an overdue credit card bill. This time it was on behalf of Triple XXXstacy, Inc. and his past-due amount of $1000. A week ago it had been Apple itself demanding to know where its $28 payment was for Ryan's rev. B iMac (the one her server Mac OS Rumors from). Ryan had stopped payments on it long ago, even though he'd taken out a five year loan from Apple to pay for the system.
The Mac rumor industry just wasn't the same anymore. Back before Steve Jobs had retaken Apple, the illicit news and underground chirping was plentiful and knew no bounds. But since some time around June of 1997, everything dried up. Ryan remembered back to his last great rumor, the one about Apple and Oracle merging, and sneered. It had been a huge misinformation troll probably created by Steve himself, and Ryan had bitten. MOSR's credibility-- what little it had left-- had been shot, and ever since then pickings had been slim.
Shifting in his chair to reach for the night's sixth swig of Mad Dog, Ryan wondered how the other rumor-mongers did it. AppleInsider, though now nothing more than a forum for idiotic 15 year olds, had been right or nearly so with almost all of its articles. SpyMac, a newer site, regularly featured new snippets of information that always at least showed some kernel of truth when Apple finally showed its cards. It couldn't be that no one liked Ryan anymore, could it?
Wild Eep sounded from his iMac's speakers and Ryan excitedly command-tabbed over into Mail.app. Would it be a hot tip from Tron, his mole from Cupertino? Or would it be from his hot girlfriend with more news on her liposuction surgery? Or perhaps it was from his long-time friend from Motorola with more news on the PowerPC G6?
When Mail.app finally opened and finished twirling and opening drawers and grabbing updates from the ISP's IMAP server, Ryan's shoulders slumped. It was another email from Trollaxor. Not even bothering to ponder what it would be this time, Ryan immediately opened it.
From: Trollaxor trollaxor@mac.com
To: Ryan Meader ryan@mosr.com
Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 22:14
Subject: About Your Last Update
Hi Ryan,
Nice update last week. Thought you'd like to know almost none of it came true. In fact, the only parts of it that were true was the day-old news you included in it and the text ads you stuck in the middle of it.
Why don't you just give up? Mac users hate you even more than they do me, and the only people who read your site are clueless Mac newbies, trolls, and your girlfriend. You'd be doing the entire Mac commmunity a favor.
Even Steve Jobs hates you. He told me so himself.
--Trollaxor
Tears welling in his eyes, Ryan hoarsly whispered, "I hate you, Trollaxor," through clenched teeth. He took his glasses off and cleaned them on his Power Computing, Inc. t-shirt and looked at the screen through blurry eyes, muttering to himself about how stupid Trollaxor was. Deep down, however, Ryan knew Trollaxor was exactly right. And that's what hurt the most.
Chugging the rest of his kiwi-strawberry Mad Dog, Ryan lit up a joint and took a deep hit. Marijuana and alcohol were his only comforts anymore as MOSR slipped deeper and deeper into the gutter. Ryan didn't know where to turn or what to do about, however. He'd dropped out of High School when, at the tender age of 16, MOSR had taken off. He'd never attended college or even gone back to get his GED and didn't know a thing about computers except HTML 3.2, which was now more than five years out of date. He even had to call his local Apple repair center for help with Mac OS.
His iMac now slept as Ryan walked slowly over to the mattresses in the corner of his economy apartment. Tomorrow would be another day of dodging creditors and hoping against hope for a real, honest-to-God hot tip, reading Mac news sites, and receiving further email abuse from Trollaxor.
If it's ruggesdness you want-- the rubberized iBooks are much more robust then the iceBooks, no matter what Apple says.
There are 512 meg sticks available for them; get a hold of the latest rev they went into (a 466MHz Graphite iBook) and you can hack around in *nix all day long. Mac OS X will even run decently, but if it's all CLI stuff you want, do Darwin or something (not Linux, it's gay).
The franchise is beyond lame, bled of all creativity by corporate vampires, and should have been put down a decade ago when it still had some class and style.
Step 1: Uninstall Apache. Step 2: Install IIS (this may involve buying and installing Windows and wiping the hard drive). Step 3: Burn your naked RMS posters.
Here in Kansas City it's not so tough being a Mac user-- there are plenty of major chains that sell Macs or peripherals for them (Microcenter and until recently, Circuit City), a large, healthy MUG (featured on Apple's site, no less) and many third-party suppliers and repair facilities (dumpster-diving has been fun since I moved out here). There's only one real drawback of living in Kansas City and being a Mac user: the rampant art faggotry, pseudo-creativity, and nerdario emo fags associated with Macintosh computing!
Yes, sadly, Kansas City is a hotbed for the so-called "art" and "emo" communities. You know the kind. Thick, silly glasses, mussed, tussled hair, ill-fitting cardigans, sweaters, dirty jeans and corduroys, and faded T-shirts purposefully purchased for the obscure entity it advertises on it. They're everywhere, these emo idiots, and they've infiltrated the Macintosh community through their affiliation with art.
Talking to one of these jerks is as exciting as digging up your dead grandmother and trying to get her to converse with you (though as hard as it would be staring at the fetid, rotting corpse of a loved one, I'd probably rather do that than spend any time with one of these whining, pierced, star-tattooed morons). They are usually brain-dead to begin with and share a common brain with each other. If art and emo fags sharing a brain is anything like allowing multiple log-ins on a Linux server, you know the drag-and-lag I'm talking about: roughly as fast as a 4-way amputee quadriplegic fat man in a marathon, and about as sharp as a beach ball.
As easy as the Mac is to use, hardware- and software-wise, these people make it look like Apple has asked them to interface with the thing using assembler. With their eyes shut and using only their tongues to type on the keyboard. Inquiring as to what version of Mac OS they're running usually results in only being able to tell if it's either Mac OS X or not: "the old one," or "the new one," is about all you'll get. Hoping one of these sub-human poseurs knows anything about their Macs is hoping for too much. I swear to God these people bought their Macs to be different and not because they actually needed a computer that worked right.
Yeah, maybe Macs are computers for people who don't use computers. But dammit, man, if you're going to own a tool, be able to use it and maintain it. I've seen some of these idiots on high-speed connections that are 4 or 5 OS updates behind. My favorite are the clueless slags who run 9.0 on their Mac and refuse to upgrade to X for whatever reason and haven't even touched 9.1 or 9.2. I mean, if you refuse to move up to X, at least be running the latest Mac OS 9 update that you can.
Kansas City's a great place, don't get me wrong. But the "art" community here, as well as the emo scene, make being a Mac user a little embarrassing. Maybe it's just me, since I moved from an area that wasn't so saturated with subculture shittiness and gayness, but I am having a harder and harder time being the proud underdog Mac user with these vegan indy-rock retards standing in my corner.
Will I abandon the Mac because of them? No. The Mac experience is finally growing my leaps and bounds again after half a decade of holding pattern. But I will start kicking ass and taking names the next time I see some slobbering, giggling emo retardo talking about his new iBook or Power Mac G4 louder than necessary, letting people know how "different" he is.
You know in Kansas City we have enough Koreans for them to dot the landscape with their Methodist Church everywhere, but none of them work at the grunt/labor jobs.
I swear, I thought Slashdot was desperate for content when I left back in February. Here I am, back for a week four months later, and they're asking if the BIOS is worth upgrading.
I guess I should have been prepared for amazement at the new levels of desperation.
Apple altered Mach 3 quite heavily for its use in Mac OS X. I've heard some say that Apple's Mach can n olonger be considered a true micokernel anymore because it ahs been changed so much.
I know I'm not an Open Source hero or anything, but I think I know how to "overcome" the network effect.
Ya know, I really hate it when these hackers use Open Source tools to pop up these windows saying HI and HELLO and A/S/L to me. They all belong to what I call the "Golden Boy Gang" which is easily identified by the tiny, faceless gold man shown running (from justice) or waving (at me). They even call it AIM! I can practically feel the laser pointer on my temple!
I also get these "electronica mail" that strangers send me about Christ, luck, and viruses. Why on Earth would I want to us a machine that can carry airborne dieseases? Next thing I know I'll go to a medical website, look at the wrong pic, and get tertiary syphilis.
If I were you I' question these "Open Sores" hacker tools and just unplug your network cable altogether. ESR and Rob Malda use criminal tools that harass and annoy me every day as I try to get Real Work(tm) done.
Slashdot Mirror
Please, get lives, people.
I have no doubt about this. I'm a Mac user and I'm smarter than pretty much everyone else here.
Yes/Yes
Is it wiser to spend money on memory or megahertz?
Generally, with Mac OS X, RAM. However, the dual-processor systems are a good buy for the power. Don't run OS X on anything less than 384 megs of RAM. 1 gig is not too much either.
Is it best to buy everything directly from Apple, or just a minimum to be fleshed out with cheaper, after-market add-ons?
That depends on how much your time is worth. If you optimize for time and have the money, get it all from Apple. If you have a little time and know-how and wanna save a nice fat lump, DIY. Was this really a question that needed answering?
What's the best video option for dual-head on Jaguar?
Jaguar? I couldn't find the specs for it on Apple's website. I'd worry about Mac OS 10.1's dual-head options, since that's the released, shipping OS.
Does OS X make SMP worth the investment?
Yes. Would it be for *nix under x86?
Is the SCSI performance gain great enough to be worth the investment over IDE?
What are you planning on doing with the thing?
My overall advice to you is: Google. Research on your own. Did you need Slashdot, of all places, for any of these answers? Hell, MacSlash is Mac-centric. Why not ask there? BUt I do realize your need to spout off and show everyone on Slashdo how much money you have and how 1337 you are for being a UNIX weenie.
for your opinion.
Is it secure?
Click here to find out.
ever heard of printing landscape?
subject sez it all
I am shocked Slashdot runs crap like this. Not news for nerds, and it certainly doesn't matter...
It's incredibly boring and inane.
I guess this shows you what Malda et al do all day: WATCH TV.
trollaxor.com:6667 #trolls, you fucking asshole.
does anyone else notice all the whining?
should this site be renamed to bitchdot?
I'll think twice next time before I think anything with "Open" in the name is secure-- Apache needs to change licenses to it's not Open Source anymore or *something.*
I still have more fun on my 2600 most of the time than I do on my GameCube (though the Godzilla game is... OH GOD CUMMING... *wh00* the best thing computers have ever been used for).
BMX Derby was awesome, there was a Tron game that wasn't bad, Ghosts & Goblins, Pitfall... Stuff that even today stands on its own when compared to other games' playability. I don't need 128 bits to click a button and make my man skip on alligaotor heads!
Ryan Meader sat back in his fold-up chair, rocking gently back and forth with his feet under the front two legs. He ran a finger through his greasy, ratty hair and stroked his equally disgusting auburn goatée. He was deep in thought and hadn't even noticed that his burning session had ended and his new CD full of gay porn movies was ready to pack away with the dozens of others in his CD binder.
For the fifth time this month, Ryan had received a call from a collection agency demanding payment on an overdue credit card bill. This time it was on behalf of Triple XXXstacy, Inc. and his past-due amount of $1000. A week ago it had been Apple itself demanding to know where its $28 payment was for Ryan's rev. B iMac (the one her server Mac OS Rumors from). Ryan had stopped payments on it long ago, even though he'd taken out a five year loan from Apple to pay for the system.
The Mac rumor industry just wasn't the same anymore. Back before Steve Jobs had retaken Apple, the illicit news and underground chirping was plentiful and knew no bounds. But since some time around June of 1997, everything dried up. Ryan remembered back to his last great rumor, the one about Apple and Oracle merging, and sneered. It had been a huge misinformation troll probably created by Steve himself, and Ryan had bitten. MOSR's credibility-- what little it had left-- had been shot, and ever since then pickings had been slim.
Shifting in his chair to reach for the night's sixth swig of Mad Dog, Ryan wondered how the other rumor-mongers did it. AppleInsider, though now nothing more than a forum for idiotic 15 year olds, had been right or nearly so with almost all of its articles. SpyMac, a newer site, regularly featured new snippets of information that always at least showed some kernel of truth when Apple finally showed its cards. It couldn't be that no one liked Ryan anymore, could it?
Wild Eep sounded from his iMac's speakers and Ryan excitedly command-tabbed over into Mail.app. Would it be a hot tip from Tron, his mole from Cupertino? Or would it be from his hot girlfriend with more news on her liposuction surgery? Or perhaps it was from his long-time friend from Motorola with more news on the PowerPC G6?
When Mail.app finally opened and finished twirling and opening drawers and grabbing updates from the ISP's IMAP server, Ryan's shoulders slumped. It was another email from Trollaxor. Not even bothering to ponder what it would be this time, Ryan immediately opened it.
Tears welling in his eyes, Ryan hoarsly whispered, "I hate you, Trollaxor," through clenched teeth. He took his glasses off and cleaned them on his Power Computing, Inc. t-shirt and looked at the screen through blurry eyes, muttering to himself about how stupid Trollaxor was. Deep down, however, Ryan knew Trollaxor was exactly right. And that's what hurt the most.
Chugging the rest of his kiwi-strawberry Mad Dog, Ryan lit up a joint and took a deep hit. Marijuana and alcohol were his only comforts anymore as MOSR slipped deeper and deeper into the gutter. Ryan didn't know where to turn or what to do about, however. He'd dropped out of High School when, at the tender age of 16, MOSR had taken off. He'd never attended college or even gone back to get his GED and didn't know a thing about computers except HTML 3.2, which was now more than five years out of date. He even had to call his local Apple repair center for help with Mac OS.
His iMac now slept as Ryan walked slowly over to the mattresses in the corner of his economy apartment. Tomorrow would be another day of dodging creditors and hoping against hope for a real, honest-to-God hot tip, reading Mac news sites, and receiving further email abuse from Trollaxor.
There would be no update on MOSR tonight.
I heard she wanted to fuck bears or something.
If it's ruggesdness you want-- the rubberized iBooks are much more robust then the iceBooks, no matter what Apple says.
There are 512 meg sticks available for them; get a hold of the latest rev they went into (a 466MHz Graphite iBook) and you can hack around in *nix all day long. Mac OS X will even run decently, but if it's all CLI stuff you want, do Darwin or something (not Linux, it's gay).
The franchise is beyond lame, bled of all creativity by corporate vampires, and should have been put down a decade ago when it still had some class and style.
UH OH! Looks like I pissed off one of the Apache httpd developers.
And as for coding worth a shit, I never claimed to, and I don't at all. So would you mind pointing out my "glaring" errors?
You Open Sores developers get way too worked up over trivial shit. Take up yoga or tai-chi before you have a heart attack at age 27.
Step 1: Uninstall Apache.
Step 2: Install IIS (this may involve buying and installing Windows and wiping the hard drive).
Step 3: Burn your naked RMS posters.
95% of consumers and businesses don't even use Gigabit yet, and it'll be years before 10-Gigabit will be as available as Gigabit is now.
Man, Michael, you have serious reality perception problems.
Here in Kansas City it's not so tough being a Mac user-- there are plenty of major chains that sell Macs or peripherals for them (Microcenter and until recently, Circuit City), a large, healthy MUG (featured on Apple's site, no less) and many third-party suppliers and repair facilities (dumpster-diving has been fun since I moved out here). There's only one real drawback of living in Kansas City and being a Mac user: the rampant art faggotry, pseudo-creativity, and nerdario emo fags associated with Macintosh computing!
Yes, sadly, Kansas City is a hotbed for the so-called "art" and "emo" communities. You know the kind. Thick, silly glasses, mussed, tussled hair, ill-fitting cardigans, sweaters, dirty jeans and corduroys, and faded T-shirts purposefully purchased for the obscure entity it advertises on it. They're everywhere, these emo idiots, and they've infiltrated the Macintosh community through their affiliation with art.
Talking to one of these jerks is as exciting as digging up your dead grandmother and trying to get her to converse with you (though as hard as it would be staring at the fetid, rotting corpse of a loved one, I'd probably rather do that than spend any time with one of these whining, pierced, star-tattooed morons). They are usually brain-dead to begin with and share a common brain with each other. If art and emo fags sharing a brain is anything like allowing multiple log-ins on a Linux server, you know the drag-and-lag I'm talking about: roughly as fast as a 4-way amputee quadriplegic fat man in a marathon, and about as sharp as a beach ball.
As easy as the Mac is to use, hardware- and software-wise, these people make it look like Apple has asked them to interface with the thing using assembler. With their eyes shut and using only their tongues to type on the keyboard. Inquiring as to what version of Mac OS they're running usually results in only being able to tell if it's either Mac OS X or not: "the old one," or "the new one," is about all you'll get. Hoping one of these sub-human poseurs knows anything about their Macs is hoping for too much. I swear to God these people bought their Macs to be different and not because they actually needed a computer that worked right.
Yeah, maybe Macs are computers for people who don't use computers. But dammit, man, if you're going to own a tool, be able to use it and maintain it. I've seen some of these idiots on high-speed connections that are 4 or 5 OS updates behind. My favorite are the clueless slags who run 9.0 on their Mac and refuse to upgrade to X for whatever reason and haven't even touched 9.1 or 9.2. I mean, if you refuse to move up to X, at least be running the latest Mac OS 9 update that you can.
Kansas City's a great place, don't get me wrong. But the "art" community here, as well as the emo scene, make being a Mac user a little embarrassing. Maybe it's just me, since I moved from an area that wasn't so saturated with subculture shittiness and gayness, but I am having a harder and harder time being the proud underdog Mac user with these vegan indy-rock retards standing in my corner.
Will I abandon the Mac because of them? No. The Mac experience is finally growing my leaps and bounds again after half a decade of holding pattern. But I will start kicking ass and taking names the next time I see some slobbering, giggling emo retardo talking about his new iBook or Power Mac G4 louder than necessary, letting people know how "different" he is.
And that's a promise.
Why did I get 10 submissions celebrating it's release?
Because the Trollaxor.com eds were hard at work on this one.
Have a nice day.
Hey l33t j03, long time.
You know in Kansas City we have enough Koreans for them to dot the landscape with their Methodist Church everywhere, but none of them work at the grunt/labor jobs.
Out here in KC we leave that honor to the Mezos.
I swear, I thought Slashdot was desperate for content when I left back in February. Here I am, back for a week four months later, and they're asking if the BIOS is worth upgrading.
I guess I should have been prepared for amazement at the new levels of desperation.
you get what you pay for.
Apple altered Mach 3 quite heavily for its use in Mac OS X. I've heard some say that Apple's Mach can n olonger be considered a true micokernel anymore because it ahs been changed so much.
I know I'm not an Open Source hero or anything, but I think I know how to "overcome" the network effect.
Ya know, I really hate it when these hackers use Open Source tools to pop up these windows saying HI and HELLO and A/S/L to me. They all belong to what I call the "Golden Boy Gang" which is easily identified by the tiny, faceless gold man shown running (from justice) or waving (at me). They even call it AIM! I can practically feel the laser pointer on my temple!
I also get these "electronica mail" that strangers send me about Christ, luck, and viruses. Why on Earth would I want to us a machine that can carry airborne dieseases? Next thing I know I'll go to a medical website, look at the wrong pic, and get tertiary syphilis.
If I were you I' question these "Open Sores" hacker tools and just unplug your network cable altogether. ESR and Rob Malda use criminal tools that harass and annoy me every day as I try to get Real Work(tm) done.
Thanks.