Shouldn't be a problem. I mean, some of MS's biggest distributions are betas. Like, say, Windows '98 was the beta for Windows '98 SE. Same with '95. Same with NT, 2000, XP. Heck even the Office suites got service packs.
In all seriousness, though, as long as the game runs on both SKU's and can be completed without too much frusteration and the multiplayer works. It'll be fine. If not, two things can happen.
1) only those with the HDD will get to play the patched version.
2) Rare gets screwed in a few orifaces. First oriface, they'll have to bite the costs of all the discs and destroy them. Second, Microsoft will take it out of Rare's rear because their precious release game won't be a release game. Third oriface, the public may rip them a new one because they may not trust rare (very unlikely, especially because even crap games tend to sell well at launch).
Either way, if the game has bugs it will effect Rare's reputation in public eyes some way or another. I sincerely hope they make it through, I always liked that studio.
I have always hated that comic for that very reason. If you've ever seen Go!, then you know how I feel about Marmaduke. I'd rather read the whole library of Family Circus' bad comics than ever read Marmaduke again!
If only Seth Green were reading this... then maybe, just maybe, Family Guy would tear this apart, or even through in a small joke and I'd feel saited...
I know the parent comment is a farce and it's kinda funny, but I heard something about this kind of stuff the other day. Something about a guy named Stephen Reinholt. This guy is some insane judge over on the west coast. I heard some statistic that somewhere around 9/10 or even higher of this guy's decisions are overturned by the supreme court.
Last week or so some parents wanted to take legal action against a school district that was forcing their child to learn about sex in some way the parents didn't approve of. This isn't high school or even middle school, it's an elementary school.
Okay, I don't understand the context of why you are saying that, or if there is a context. Doesn't matter. I had a freind in high school nicknamed 'John is Dumb.' He had this old yellow '70s Ford. On the back was a bumper sticker that read, "Goat rapers need love too" with a picture of a goat.
Okay, I hear you on all these arguments. In fact... I'm not sure I even passed the hoverbike stage on battletoads. Endless frustration... but I know I beat the game, so somebody else must have passed the hoverbike for me.
And I hear you on the strategy games. I've played every Fire Embelem I can get my hands on. Unfortunately... I need new copies as mine were stolen two days ago. I've been plaing FE Path of Radiance lately. Amazing, just amazing.
I'm not defending the grandparent post, but there was almost no change in the PS1 to PS2 controllers (I'm talking both dual shocks). In fact, I can barely tell any difference. The difference between the NES and SNES controlers was an extra four buttons and ergonomics. The SNES' didn't cut into your palms when you were playing an intense session of Mega Man. They were also slightly larger so the carpel-tunnel had more trouble setting in. I still have problems with the smaller controllers. I grew as games did, so did my hands. I imagine playing my Intellivision will cause irrevocable pain.
Nintendo innovated with the ergonomics of the controller while making sure the functionalitly wasn't sacrificed... except, perhaps, for their first try at analogue. That thing wore out way too quick. The worst part was that nobody ever came up with a suitable alternative that worked on the N64.
Gamecube controllers are easily the most comfortable I've ever used followed pretty close by the Microsoft S's. The Playstation's controllers (dual-shock) seem very ho-hum. Mostly because it takes more effort than it should to hit the L1, R1 buttons. Worse if you need them both. Same problem with the GameCube controller's 'Z' and 'R.' But it's rarely a problem with any games I've played on it. Most of the time 'Z' is the map (Metroid).
By far the most uncomfortable contrller I've used is the Dreamcast. My fingers instictively want to wrap around the grip and then have nowhere to go, so my knuckles dig into the plastic... or rather the reverse, which is annoying, and downright painfull when you're playing RE: Code Veronica.
I've tried out the 360 recently, and the controller feels flimsy, though it's rugged enough (for a kiosk, we'll see how long untill the thumbgrips fall off). Also, the triggers were very annoying, but I didn't play long enough to get a real feel for them. I won't be getting the system... likely at all because I simply cannot afford it. But I have friends, so only time will tell what I think about those controllers.
I wish I could remember the game. Maybe it's just in my head. But, the best motion-blur effects I've seen were almost unnoticable, unless there was something that was luminescent. Headlights and streetlights would streak across the screen, also reflections. But objects, like other cars, signs and buildings, had no motion blur. It was a computer game. Perhaps NFS IV High Stakes?
Hey, not all games can be as wild and unpredictable as WarioWare.
Seriously, though. What on earth more do you want from Rare? They make great games that are no more tedious than any other game maker. And I don't agree that GoldenEye was tedious. From what I remeber of BattleToads, it had many different intuitive levels. Conker's Bad Fur Day was too funny not to play... but I did get sick of some of the tediousness like rolling poop in that bar. Diddy kong racing was very entertaining, but I couldn't beat the final boss for the life of me.... sad.
From what it sounds like, you might have some sort of ADD that even videogames don't cure. The kind of attention span the poeple have in Fahrenheit 451.
Umm... I love to frag on Halo as much as the next guy, and I hate playing on Live. In fact, I doubt I ever will again. Every time I give it a chance, some 12 year old whose parent's aren't home physically or mentally makes me wish their parents would take a belt to their backsides and bar of soap in the mouth. Anyway, here's a list.
MarioKart... pick an iteration. DS version looks to be amazing. Perfect Dark on the N64. I had much more fun with this game than either Halo. In fact, when the Revolution comes out, I seriously hope there's a way to up that framerate. More weapons. More strategy (I mean, think about it, you KNOW they can see your screen, so after a while, no Radar doesn't mean anything, now you need to be able to hide!). Smash Bros. Either, they're both amazing. Donkey Konga, any. Don't knock it 'til you try it. It's amazing. Any version of Ghost Recon. One bullet can always kill. And running in the open gives you the same result. Super Dodge Ball on NES. You've never played a fun sports game without knowing the joy of slapping Igor in the back of the head while he runs back to his team's side.
There are more, but I can't remember them right now.
Just do what I do! It's really easy. Just stack about thirty product manuels on top. I know they're most likely neatly put away in a safe location, but now's the time to keep your computer safe from liquid assaults. Next, keep a stack of of about thirty CD-R's sitting information side-up. This usually works best when the content is something that's relatively trivial, like mp3 backups and old school assignments. Okay, if there's a tricky part, this is it. Put that box on the floor and make just enough room on the edge to rest half a foot and go to town.
Congradulations, you've just saved your computer from being destroyed by malitous caffienated beverages, hot and cold! Hope this helps.
In all fairness this is probably the first piece of actual news about the 360 in a few weeks. I too am getting sick of hearing about everyone's take on the 360 shortage. Every story about the shortage is a dup of the last, and the comments are the same too...
Yeah, my brother had a similar experience with a MN hospital. They carted in a Nintendo that had Zelda or Mario Bros on it. At the time, we were allowed to play Commodore 64 games very rarely (IE, snow levels taller than we were, or temperature -40 or less), and even less we played our uncle's Intellevision (which was passed on to me when he passed, I'll never give that up).
I remember specifically that, at least for my brother, all the tension of the catheter up his you know what, and the multiple surgeries and the finding of a mysterious third kidney (which I have claimed, just in case I break my current models). Unfortunately, I was so infatuated by that Nintendo, that I really wanted to go visit him so I could see or play the games, it's quite sad, really, but that was long ago.
Later that year, we found a Nintendo hiding in the laundry room just prior to Christmas and almost exploded with delight. For a few days we pretended we didn't know about it, then I forgot completely, so my surprise was genuine when we unwrapped it.
I'll be contributing to a local hospital if I can find a program, but PA will be getting some cash anyway.
for any Belmont, in no particular order. Matthew McConaughey Leonardo Decaprio Hayden Christensen Ewan McGregor (because he has only one accent) Johnny Depp Orlando Bloom (again, only one accent... and he can't act anyway) Toby McGuire Tom Cruise
Best charecter lineup? I don't know. But, seeing as the odds are the movie will suck, I'd really like to see the Belmont played by someone who we can take seriously. Or just screw the whole show up and make it fun! I foresee:
More likely projector screens and the like. More likely customized or something along those lines. I'm not a designer, but I think that designers could come up with some pretty cool visuals if they weren't confined to rectangles all the time. One the other hand, rectangles are the easiest way to process a picture.
If you saw Nintendo's video of the controller, than you may remember the part where the two kids were using thier controllers like flashlights. What if you're wall was the screen (easy enough. Projector plus white walls)? I imagine it would be creepy as hell to have the 'flashlight' reveal the only part that is projected. What if there was four projectors in a room designed for such games. Just a 10x10 room. That's really pushing it, but it would be an incredible experiance, no?
Taking into consideration all the delays that we've been put through.... it's not coming out for any system. I mean, come on! It was supposed to be out summer '04
Most people on/. are smart enough to see through what MS is doing here. I'm starting to think there should be a page just for all the 360 half duplicate articles. Or maybe just a review at the end of the day.
The 360 could easily be 200 bucks by the PS3 release. Microsoft has no problem picking it's own pockets. And the only thing they're paying real money for is the chips. DVD and hard drives are cheap (yeah, I know this HDD is a small one, but you can get a 20 Gig of the same size for a whole lot less than 100 bucks right now).
The problem is, if they're going to drop the price (sorry, couldn't read the article, my work sees fit to keep me from most gaming sites) then they shouldn't anounce it before anybody buys their consoles or nobody will. If nobody buys the boxes, then nobody makes the games. No games, no boxes sold. A vicious loop.
Easy enough to take care of if you can get a good fan-base, 1-2 million in the US should be easy to sell. Seeing as there are probable some odd hundred thousand pre-orders, this won't be hard either way. That, and most consumers only hear hype, and believe it. They don't read all the game sites. They just see the ads and buy what they're told to buy. The X-Box 360 kiosks I've seen are drawing mediocre attention, at best... so, from what I can tell. It's anybody's market right now.
My brother stood in line at Wal-Mart for 8 hours or so for the launch with a friend of his. They had also reserved their's, but wanted them right away. Meanwhile, I did not pre-order and walked into a Target the next day around noon and saw three sitting on the shelf. I kindly asked the clerck if I needed a reservation to purchase one of those shiney PS2's and he replied that all the reserved PS2's were in the back. I thanked him and walked away. When I got home, one of the guys in my dorm came in very excitedly as he managed to scrounge up 300 bucks and went to Toys 'R Us (sorry, can't find a way to make a backwards 'r') and picked up a unit. For fun, we looked at the E-bay prices first, $400+... well you know the story.
There wasn't any launch titles I wanted to play. In fact, I still don't own one, but I've put countless hours into GT3 and a few RPGs.
but the most annoy aspect of the game as far as I'm concerned was managing those stupid citizens. There is too much to pay attention to to even click the advisor and find out about your cities' happiness. In the middle of a war, you want tanks, and fighters and bombers being built NOW. Pollution didn't stop production for two turns. THAT SUCKED.
People should be happy that you're taking over the world. I wonder how easy it will be to just turn off their ability to get pissed. From the article, it's not exactly clear about the angry citizens doing what, but it sounds like this problem was mostly taken care of. That will be nice. The idea of being able to manage idle citizens automatically is also nice. I always have them optomize science so I can win the space race, but I think it would be great if they could help with production every once in a while too.
In the end, there will be no "new" CO2 released to the atmosphere, and the greenhouse effect will stop to increase.
So, we can only use our laptops and cameras in a field of sugarcane? Just kidding.
I agree with you. This should help slow humanities impact on the carbon cycle. Of course, nothing short of armageddon or a handy ice age is going to fix that.
In the end, if humans try to fix it, we'll just have to counteract all the global warming we're responsable for with nuclear winter. Problem solved, right?
I still pull out my Intellevision whenever I feel like getting back to the basics. Wish the second controller wasn't so frizty. Anybody know if there are some schematics I could get a hold of? I'd love to play more epic games of Sea Battle with my brother.
Also, could anybody ever get that damn Football game to work?!
I recall reading an article on/. a long time ago involving a group of coders from MIT or something like that who pitted a P4 CPU against an ATI or nVidia GPU that was running at about a third the clock speed with a tenth of the memory. They were, of course, running mostly linear equations and the CPU got it's pants kicked in by just under an order of magnitude IIRC.
What I've been waiting for is some sort of mathematics program (I used to use Mathematica in college) that could utilize this concentrated power, rather than hampering the CPU.
Does anyone know if any researchers have gone as far as to utilize a GPU for anything like this?
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In all seriousness, though, as long as the game runs on both SKU's and can be completed without too much frusteration and the multiplayer works. It'll be fine. If not, two things can happen.
1) only those with the HDD will get to play the patched version.
2) Rare gets screwed in a few orifaces. First oriface, they'll have to bite the costs of all the discs and destroy them. Second, Microsoft will take it out of Rare's rear because their precious release game won't be a release game. Third oriface, the public may rip them a new one because they may not trust rare (very unlikely, especially because even crap games tend to sell well at launch).
Either way, if the game has bugs it will effect Rare's reputation in public eyes some way or another. I sincerely hope they make it through, I always liked that studio.
I have always hated that comic for that very reason. If you've ever seen Go!, then you know how I feel about Marmaduke. I'd rather read the whole library of Family Circus' bad comics than ever read Marmaduke again!
If only Seth Green were reading this... then maybe, just maybe, Family Guy would tear this apart, or even through in a small joke and I'd feel saited...
Last week or so some parents wanted to take legal action against a school district that was forcing their child to learn about sex in some way the parents didn't approve of. This isn't high school or even middle school, it's an elementary school.
Found the story, anyway these guys told them they didn't have a right to tell the state what they could or could not teach their children.When I tried to find a different news source, but nobody was covering it. None the less, the quotes say enough as they are directly from the appeals court.
When the parents asked what they could do to keep it from happening, as they couldn't afford private school. The court basically said, oh well.
Not to troll, but the only other culture I can think that didn't allow parents to raise thier kids was the communists.
Okay, I don't understand the context of why you are saying that, or if there is a context. Doesn't matter. I had a freind in high school nicknamed 'John is Dumb.' He had this old yellow '70s Ford. On the back was a bumper sticker that read, "Goat rapers need love too" with a picture of a goat.
Cheers!
And I hear you on the strategy games. I've played every Fire Embelem I can get my hands on. Unfortunately... I need new copies as mine were stolen two days ago. I've been plaing FE Path of Radiance lately. Amazing, just amazing.
I also read constantly.
Nintendo innovated with the ergonomics of the controller while making sure the functionalitly wasn't sacrificed... except, perhaps, for their first try at analogue. That thing wore out way too quick. The worst part was that nobody ever came up with a suitable alternative that worked on the N64.
Gamecube controllers are easily the most comfortable I've ever used followed pretty close by the Microsoft S's. The Playstation's controllers (dual-shock) seem very ho-hum. Mostly because it takes more effort than it should to hit the L1, R1 buttons. Worse if you need them both. Same problem with the GameCube controller's 'Z' and 'R.' But it's rarely a problem with any games I've played on it. Most of the time 'Z' is the map (Metroid).
By far the most uncomfortable contrller I've used is the Dreamcast. My fingers instictively want to wrap around the grip and then have nowhere to go, so my knuckles dig into the plastic... or rather the reverse, which is annoying, and downright painfull when you're playing RE: Code Veronica.
I've tried out the 360 recently, and the controller feels flimsy, though it's rugged enough (for a kiosk, we'll see how long untill the thumbgrips fall off). Also, the triggers were very annoying, but I didn't play long enough to get a real feel for them. I won't be getting the system... likely at all because I simply cannot afford it. But I have friends, so only time will tell what I think about those controllers.
I wish I could remember the game. Maybe it's just in my head. But, the best motion-blur effects I've seen were almost unnoticable, unless there was something that was luminescent. Headlights and streetlights would streak across the screen, also reflections. But objects, like other cars, signs and buildings, had no motion blur. It was a computer game. Perhaps NFS IV High Stakes?
Seriously, though. What on earth more do you want from Rare? They make great games that are no more tedious than any other game maker. And I don't agree that GoldenEye was tedious. From what I remeber of BattleToads, it had many different intuitive levels. Conker's Bad Fur Day was too funny not to play... but I did get sick of some of the tediousness like rolling poop in that bar. Diddy kong racing was very entertaining, but I couldn't beat the final boss for the life of me.... sad.
From what it sounds like, you might have some sort of ADD that even videogames don't cure. The kind of attention span the poeple have in Fahrenheit 451.
Wait, stereo is only two channels. Wouldn't Dolby make more sense?
At least he managed to give something a score other than '8/10'
MarioKart... pick an iteration. DS version looks to be amazing.
Perfect Dark on the N64. I had much more fun with this game than either Halo. In fact, when the Revolution comes out, I seriously hope there's a way to up that framerate. More weapons. More strategy (I mean, think about it, you KNOW they can see your screen, so after a while, no Radar doesn't mean anything, now you need to be able to hide!).
Smash Bros. Either, they're both amazing.
Donkey Konga, any. Don't knock it 'til you try it. It's amazing.
Any version of Ghost Recon. One bullet can always kill. And running in the open gives you the same result.
Super Dodge Ball on NES. You've never played a fun sports game without knowing the joy of slapping Igor in the back of the head while he runs back to his team's side.
There are more, but I can't remember them right now.
Congradulations, you've just saved your computer from being destroyed by malitous caffienated beverages, hot and cold! Hope this helps.
In all fairness this is probably the first piece of actual news about the 360 in a few weeks. I too am getting sick of hearing about everyone's take on the 360 shortage. Every story about the shortage is a dup of the last, and the comments are the same too...
I remember specifically that, at least for my brother, all the tension of the catheter up his you know what, and the multiple surgeries and the finding of a mysterious third kidney (which I have claimed, just in case I break my current models). Unfortunately, I was so infatuated by that Nintendo, that I really wanted to go visit him so I could see or play the games, it's quite sad, really, but that was long ago.
Later that year, we found a Nintendo hiding in the laundry room just prior to Christmas and almost exploded with delight. For a few days we pretended we didn't know about it, then I forgot completely, so my surprise was genuine when we unwrapped it.
I'll be contributing to a local hospital if I can find a program, but PA will be getting some cash anyway.
Okay, you got me. This would work great. How about Janet Reno as Medusa, and every US senetor as a walk-on zombie!
Matthew McConaughey
Leonardo Decaprio
Hayden Christensen
Ewan McGregor (because he has only one accent)
Johnny Depp
Orlando Bloom (again, only one accent... and he can't act anyway)
Toby McGuire
Tom Cruise
Best charecter lineup? I don't know. But, seeing as the odds are the movie will suck, I'd really like to see the Belmont played by someone who we can take seriously.
Or just screw the whole show up and make it fun! I foresee:
Dracula must be played by Christopher Walken!
Same thing.
Good-bye Karma, I hardly knew ye!
Well... at least I have the balls to not post AC.
If you saw Nintendo's video of the controller, than you may remember the part where the two kids were using thier controllers like flashlights. What if you're wall was the screen (easy enough. Projector plus white walls)? I imagine it would be creepy as hell to have the 'flashlight' reveal the only part that is projected. What if there was four projectors in a room designed for such games. Just a 10x10 room. That's really pushing it, but it would be an incredible experiance, no?
Taking into consideration all the delays that we've been put through.... it's not coming out for any system. I mean, come on! It was supposed to be out summer '04
The 360 could easily be 200 bucks by the PS3 release. Microsoft has no problem picking it's own pockets. And the only thing they're paying real money for is the chips. DVD and hard drives are cheap (yeah, I know this HDD is a small one, but you can get a 20 Gig of the same size for a whole lot less than 100 bucks right now).
The problem is, if they're going to drop the price (sorry, couldn't read the article, my work sees fit to keep me from most gaming sites) then they shouldn't anounce it before anybody buys their consoles or nobody will. If nobody buys the boxes, then nobody makes the games. No games, no boxes sold. A vicious loop.
Easy enough to take care of if you can get a good fan-base, 1-2 million in the US should be easy to sell. Seeing as there are probable some odd hundred thousand pre-orders, this won't be hard either way. That, and most consumers only hear hype, and believe it. They don't read all the game sites. They just see the ads and buy what they're told to buy. The X-Box 360 kiosks I've seen are drawing mediocre attention, at best... so, from what I can tell. It's anybody's market right now.
My brother stood in line at Wal-Mart for 8 hours or so for the launch with a friend of his. They had also reserved their's, but wanted them right away. Meanwhile, I did not pre-order and walked into a Target the next day around noon and saw three sitting on the shelf. I kindly asked the clerck if I needed a reservation to purchase one of those shiney PS2's and he replied that all the reserved PS2's were in the back. I thanked him and walked away. When I got home, one of the guys in my dorm came in very excitedly as he managed to scrounge up 300 bucks and went to Toys 'R Us (sorry, can't find a way to make a backwards 'r') and picked up a unit. For fun, we looked at the E-bay prices first, $400+... well you know the story.
There wasn't any launch titles I wanted to play. In fact, I still don't own one, but I've put countless hours into GT3 and a few RPGs.
People should be happy that you're taking over the world. I wonder how easy it will be to just turn off their ability to get pissed. From the article, it's not exactly clear about the angry citizens doing what, but it sounds like this problem was mostly taken care of. That will be nice. The idea of being able to manage idle citizens automatically is also nice. I always have them optomize science so I can win the space race, but I think it would be great if they could help with production every once in a while too.
So, we can only use our laptops and cameras in a field of sugarcane? Just kidding.
I agree with you. This should help slow humanities impact on the carbon cycle. Of course, nothing short of armageddon or a handy ice age is going to fix that.
In the end, if humans try to fix it, we'll just have to counteract all the global warming we're responsable for with nuclear winter. Problem solved, right?
Also, could anybody ever get that damn Football game to work?!
What I've been waiting for is some sort of mathematics program (I used to use Mathematica in college) that could utilize this concentrated power, rather than hampering the CPU.
Does anyone know if any researchers have gone as far as to utilize a GPU for anything like this?