These in-hub-motors are used extensively in electric mopeds. Have a look at these EVT units, generally regarded as some of the best Electric Mopeds available.... with direct-drive-hub motors.
You had to take money out of your 401k for a $12k downpayment? Did you consider you *didnt* need a $428k home?
Outside of the fact that you are contributing to ridiculous sprawl in a suburb-in-the-desert (which by itself is another discussion in What Not To Do In The World), couldnt you have gotten an condo downtown somewhere?
but I'm comfortable with tools and physical labor Really now. Dad has to have a garage, some 'spare' lumber, nailes/glue, power tools (table-saw/plainer/jig-saw/hole-saw/router), paint/stain, brushes, clamps, drop cloths....,....,.... too make a bird house. Not to mention a garage, basement or yard.
Do you think those things cost more than some old, virtually free hand me down techno-trash for the interested Geekish family?
Dont get me wrong, i am currently renovating a 100+ year proletarian brown-stone townhouse -- myself and my spouse -- i know what that work entails.... but that 'build a birdhouse' is also a privilaged experience.
Democrats will lie, cheat and steal from their mothers. Al Gore said that he would abide by the people, the people spoke, and he and the democrats don;t know right from wrong. They speak from both sides of their mouth.NOw Gore who invented the internet???????Give me a break"
SPANKING THE MONKEY
Transcript: Vice President Gore on CNN's 'Late Edition' March 9, 1999
CNN'S WOLF BLITZER: I want to get to some of the substance of domestic and international issues in a minute, but let's just wrap up a little bit of the politics right now.
Why should Democrats, looking at the Democratic nomination process, support you instead of Bill Bradley, a friend of yours, a former colleague in the Senate? What do you have to bring to this that he doesn't necessarily bring to this process?
AL GORE: Well, I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be.
But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.
During a quarter century of public service, including most of it long before I came into my current job, I have worked to try to improve the quality of life in our country and in our world. And what I've seen during that experience is an emerging future that's very exciting, about which I'm very optimistic, and toward which I want to lead.
By the way, although the press has debunked this stupid story about a million times, Republicans keep banging that tired old drum. Why? Because they cannot attack Gore's morality (he was never a pantyhound like George W.), or his policies (most Americans give Gore and the Democrats the edge on the issues). So they keep throwing lies around, hoping some will catch on. Some do. The world is full of stupid people.
CASE IN POINT: (I don't have to name names, do I?)
MORE ON GORE AND THE INTERNET FROM BOB DELAY (Yes, 'that' Delay... READ ON)
From: Bob DeLay To: thediva@coup2k.com BCC: bc_pubshort@yahoo.com ; MWO Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:54 AM Subject: al gore and the internet
Sometimes I feel so all alone in the world.
According to Microsoft's very own reference resource, BOOKSHELF '96, Al Gore did pretty much invent the internet. We might assume that Microsoft would have a pretty good handle on that particular issue and would know what they're/it's talking about. Here's an excerpt from an article entitled, "The Internet: How did it originate?" (That's "ORIGINATE". Does something "originate" when it is "invented", dammit? So let's put this crap to rest forever. THROW IT AT THE PIGS!) The excerpt:
"In 1991, Vice President Al Gore, then a U.S. senator, proposed widening the architecture of NSFNET to include more K-12 schools, community colleges, and 2-year colleges. The resulting legislation expanded NSFNET and renamed it NREN (National Research and Educational Network). This bill also allowed businesses to purchase part of the network for commercial uses. The mass commercialization of today's Internet is the direct result of this legislation." (That is a verbatim, copied-and-pasted quote.)
I repeat for effect: "THE MASS COMMERCIALIZATION OF TODAY'S INTERNET IS THE DIRECT RESULT OF THIS LEGISLATION." Well, heck: it looks very much as if Al Gore invented in the Internet!
Of course, Bill Gates (Columbia and Funk & Wagnalls) doesn't know anythi
Now, Im likely to be modded off topic or troll or something else altogether, but think for a moment. The USA has fought INNUMERABLE wars since its inception (does anyone dare to list them....?) and is #1 (by a very long long shot) in Arms Purchases* and Arms Exports.
* 2004 USA Arms budget: $401Billion 2004 "Potential Foes"(bad guys/evil ones/terrorists/tyrants/satan's warriors/communists/leftists/whatever/anti-capital ists/opponents-of-american-plutocratic-imperialism ): $130 Billion (Includes Russia, China, North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, and Cuba) 2004 "Allies": $240 Billion (Includes the 18 countries of NATO other than the U.S.; also includes Japan)
So, USA spends almost equal amounts on ARMS as the rest of the world IN TOTAL....
In 1900's, when Wrights were building their planes, why *wouldnt* they think of war? While US of Americans like to believe they are peace-loving and fair "mind our own business" nation -- and are ALWAYS surprised when characterized otherwise -- are really a nation of War-Makers.... and have been for some time. Iraq and Afghanistan are *not* aborations, are not "special circumstance" but completely business as usual.... the Wrights knew it then, but were seemingly more honest about it.
Another, very interesting feature is NSV streaming video. Like the 'internet radio' stations streamed by shoutcast, there are a few internet TV stations. This my friends, is truely significant. Winamp becomes a digital-tv tuner (....i dont mean HDTV). People will be able to stream out any video they'd like -- the other day I watched a few episodes of aqua teen hunger force, some pr0n, and the movie Phone Booth. Imagine a million streams of public access tv, mixed up with random bits of quality niche movies/shows....
THAT is what makes winamp5 cool. Now, i might just be ignorant, but is there another app that puts a selection of streaming video stations together for you to surf?
Evolution will (shortly) be a very capable PIM. With an OS backend of somekind for scheduling, will cover 95% of the "outlook" users needs. But, Outlook does something that no GNU/Linux PIM does yet these form things. Now, Im not trying to say "outlook r0x0r2 and evolution 6r00l2" or somesuch, so please ease up on the "M$ shill" retorts (and the 'outlook is insecure' w/ vb" stuff as well.
What you can do is send forms, with send a form to a user like an email -- the 'form' appears in their inbox). This form, can do whatever you'd like. You can build work-chain dependant systems with them.
Now, I imagine you can do similar via HTML forms and a Apache backend, but ive used these outlook forms before to enable some 'officialdom' instead of attached emails and forms.... and they worked pretty nice. (i built a simple form that made 'offical' communication between two departments and tracked the sending/recieving and reaction -- pretty simple) its pretty interesting.
I believe your right, It works *abobe* ALSA. ALSA will do the hardware bits while the MAS will back into it, or if your XWindow is running on OSX, back into the Darwin equivelent, or Windows, back into ActiveDirectX.NET(?) Im not certain, can someone verify?
Ive not read the whole of the posts here, but Im willing to bet there are allot of people crying "oh, this is pork, governments wasting money -- ha ha you Europeans pay tones of taxes and see it wasted ha ha suckers. bureaucracy run amuck with naval gazing. ha ha." kinds of attitude.
Really, how better to dedicate the resources of ones culture than the investigation of the cause/effect and remedy for general, shared problems? Why the hell not? I can think of no better things to investigate.
The masses are convinced -- almost without pause -- that spending money on single-serving yogurt-like snacks(ever *made* your own yogurt -- VERY VERY GOOD & EASY), RetiredBoxerBrand electric grills (whats wrong with your stove?), ZXY(TM) Brand $200 shoes, and blah blah blah is a good reward in exchange for my personal effort (the $ youve collected in exchange for work).. I say hogwash.
If Im going to sacrifice 40hrs of ever week, I damn well want something worth while in exchange for my Cached-Work($). Being the sucker in some capitalist's get-rich scheme, at the expense of the planet (pollution/waste/garbage) is not all that attractive -- but insead of paying for research like this (in taxes) people are usually DrivenByMindControl to buying SomeDamnedGarbage.
Where am i going with this? What is more useful? What is the greatest benefit of the product of our collective resources (the above mentioned consumer-garbage) **OR** some peace from the endless noise in a mechanized-industrial city....
I am willing to forgo buying some of that seemingly-benign-consumer-garbage in order to help pay researchers to think about something useful. Are you? Im betting most sane, normal people would agree. Instead of working to make Widgets (as I do), I wish there was a greater market for doing something WorthWhile. The Automobile that I contribute to manufacturing is not a goal I consider worthy of my time. I have no problem working, its the *goal* or product of my effort that is worthless. But, we live in a world with F'ed up priorities (we spend to much of our Cached-Work($) buying Useless Garbage, making the production of Useless Garbage a more common goal that most would like)
These kinds of 'decisions' and 'trade-offs' are taking place all the time (every thing you do has an impact on the world). Stop and think occasionally: "what benefit, at what cost is my decision having to bear on myself and my community? What responsibility do I accept or abandon that are the consequences of this decision? How can I make the world just a little better at Zero or No 'cost' to myself or my community?"
Well, if you buy the Bush line that there is no global warming, and pollution is good for you, then you probably feel the Greens are "extreme".
I think our time is now.
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What it seems like is that there are some CEO's that will say anything for money-and they are gradually destroying the United States.
AH... your *not* possibly suggesting that a person's highest right as a human isnt 'anything for profit'? Your not actually proposing that something be done to maintain a manner of conduct of some sort... sheesh, that kind of thing could get in the way of the Free Market(TM).
I've been a member for a long time, and the content seems to be degenerating into a groupthink zealot factory with its own set of dogmas and censors.
I don't think this is the fundemental problem.
Actually, the rise of the internet and ease of publishing in general, this *is* a problem.
People will seek out sources of information that *reinforce* their world-view. We will build these feedback loops and vertical chimneys where every group becomes more isolated from reasonable, objective opinion that they become convinced that anyone who disagrees with them is grossly misinformed and stupid.
I dont know what to do about it, I find myself reading websites and books that really just reinforce my own ideas.... in time, Idont know what the consequences of this behaviour will be. Polorization? Extremism? Where, how and who will faciliated comprimise and understanding?
oh, about your.sig -- I am all for spreading ideas..
but please, dont encourage people put stickers on stop signs. A) that wastes government's tax money and B) causes new stop signs to have to be manufactured/installed etc (pollution)
if you want to be cute, please consider the fucking consequences. your $0.01 sticker probably costs taxpayers $1500 to replace a gdamn stop sign...
why dont you draw mustaches on Corporate Billboards... try and pick a more appropriate 'victim' for your acts than *yourself*.
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These in-hub-motors are used extensively in electric mopeds. Have a look at these EVT units, generally regarded as some of the best Electric Mopeds available.... with direct-drive-hub motors.
People could play "Highlander" -- when another "immortal" is near, the phone goes off -- a battle ensues and one is dispatched.
You had to take money out of your 401k for a $12k downpayment? Did you consider you *didnt* need a $428k home?
Outside of the fact that you are contributing to ridiculous sprawl in a suburb-in-the-desert (which by itself is another discussion in What Not To Do In The World), couldnt you have gotten an condo downtown somewhere?
Yes, so Hitler was a Christian too... what does that mean about his "professional" work...?
...*only* two holes? Jeeze, even the blow-ups wont go for third-input eh?
You forgot to mention that the world believes Isreal has nuclear weapons, in breach of the non-proliferation treaties? (that they refuse to sign)
shhhhshhh....where do you think they got the money/tech for nukes?
Its like DPRK giving nukes to Iraq -- no?
Now, that sir, is the most foul troll in a *long* time. Very Good Work Sir!
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but I'm comfortable with tools and physical labor
Really now. Dad has to have a garage, some 'spare' lumber, nailes/glue, power tools (table-saw/plainer/jig-saw/hole-saw/router), paint/stain, brushes, clamps, drop cloths....,....,.... too make a bird house. Not to mention a garage, basement or yard.
Do you think those things cost more than some old, virtually free hand me down techno-trash for the interested Geekish family?
Dont get me wrong, i am currently renovating a 100+ year proletarian brown-stone townhouse -- myself and my spouse -- i know what that work entails.... but that 'build a birdhouse' is also a privilaged experience.
Whatever 111615 -- Did you inherit that account? Or are you trolling for teenz?
MONKEY MAIL 4--
AL GORE INVENTED THE INTERNET?
Al Gore took credit for inventing the Internet?!?
THE MONKEY MAIL CLAIMS:
Democrats will lie, cheat and steal from their mothers. Al Gore said that he would abide by the people, the people spoke, and he and the democrats don;t know right from wrong. They speak from both sides of their mouth.NOw Gore who invented the internet???????Give me a break"
SPANKING THE MONKEY
Transcript: Vice President Gore on
CNN's 'Late Edition'
March 9, 1999
CNN'S WOLF BLITZER: I want to get to some of the substance of domestic and international issues in a minute, but let's just wrap up a little bit of the politics right now.
Why should Democrats, looking at the Democratic nomination process, support you instead of Bill Bradley, a friend of yours, a former colleague in the Senate? What do you have to bring to this that he doesn't necessarily bring to this process?
AL GORE: Well, I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be.
But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.
During a quarter century of public service, including most of it long before I came into my current job, I have worked to try to improve the quality of life in our country and in our world. And what I've seen during that experience is an emerging future that's very exciting, about which I'm very optimistic, and toward which I want to lead.
By the way, although the press has debunked this stupid story about a million times, Republicans keep banging that tired old drum. Why? Because they cannot attack Gore's morality (he was never a pantyhound like George W.), or his policies (most Americans give Gore and the Democrats the edge on the issues). So they keep throwing lies around, hoping some will catch on. Some do. The world is full of stupid people.
CASE IN POINT: (I don't have to name names, do I?)
MORE ON GORE AND THE INTERNET
FROM BOB DELAY
(Yes, 'that' Delay... READ ON)
From: Bob DeLay
To: thediva@coup2k.com
BCC: bc_pubshort@yahoo.com ; MWO
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:54 AM
Subject: al gore and the internet
Sometimes I feel so all alone in the world.
According to Microsoft's very own reference resource, BOOKSHELF '96, Al Gore did pretty much invent the internet. We might assume that Microsoft would have a pretty good handle on that particular issue and would know what they're/it's talking about. Here's an excerpt from an article entitled, "The Internet: How did it originate?" (That's "ORIGINATE". Does something "originate" when it is "invented", dammit? So let's put this crap to rest forever. THROW IT AT THE PIGS!) The excerpt:
"In 1991, Vice President Al Gore, then a U.S. senator, proposed widening the architecture of NSFNET to include more K-12 schools, community colleges, and 2-year colleges. The resulting legislation expanded NSFNET and renamed it NREN (National Research and Educational Network). This bill also allowed businesses to purchase part of the network for commercial uses. The mass commercialization of today's Internet is the direct result of this legislation." (That is a verbatim, copied-and-pasted quote.)
I repeat for effect: "THE MASS COMMERCIALIZATION OF TODAY'S INTERNET IS THE DIRECT RESULT OF THIS LEGISLATION." Well, heck: it looks very much as if Al Gore invented in the Internet!
Of course, Bill Gates (Columbia and Funk & Wagnalls) doesn't know anythi
Don't forget that average fuel economy of cars sold in the US is at its lowest level in 20 years. Think about that for a moment.
China has just passed mandatory new-car fuel-efficiency standards that in 2005 will be *MORE STRICT* than in the USA.
Two other biggies:
A) Habitat Loss (destruction of biodiversity (needed for food/resources/new compounds) and the building up of toxic pollution.
B) oraganic and non-organic pollution.
Simply not knowing how our behaviour is effecting the climate is one thing. We DO know that A && B are also 'end-game' problems.
What do you mean "no SCO", Linux *was* on the list... sheesh rtfa.
Thanks,
Darl.
Well, what did you expect an USofAmerican to answer?
l ists/opponents-of-american-plutocratic-imperialism ): $130 Billion (Includes Russia, China, North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, and Cuba)
.... and have been for some time. Iraq and Afghanistan are *not* aborations, are not "special circumstance" but completely business as usual.... the Wrights knew it then, but were seemingly more honest about it.
War is their business.
Its always been their business
Now, Im likely to be modded off topic or troll or something else altogether, but think for a moment. The USA has fought INNUMERABLE wars since its inception (does anyone dare to list them....?) and is #1 (by a very long long shot) in Arms Purchases* and Arms Exports.
*
2004 USA Arms budget: $401Billion
2004 "Potential Foes"(bad guys/evil ones/terrorists/tyrants/satan's warriors/communists/leftists/whatever/anti-capita
2004 "Allies": $240 Billion (Includes the 18 countries of NATO other than the U.S.; also includes Japan)
So, USA spends almost equal amounts on ARMS as the rest of the world IN TOTAL....
In 1900's, when Wrights were building their planes, why *wouldnt* they think of war? While US of Americans like to believe they are peace-loving and fair "mind our own business" nation -- and are ALWAYS surprised when characterized otherwise -- are really a nation of War-Makers
Somewhat true, Id say a mp3/ogg ripper plugin in will arrive in seconds....
Another, very interesting feature is NSV streaming video.
Like the 'internet radio' stations streamed by shoutcast, there are a few internet TV stations. This my friends, is truely significant. Winamp becomes a digital-tv tuner (....i dont mean HDTV). People will be able to stream out any video they'd like -- the other day I watched a few episodes of aqua teen hunger force, some pr0n, and the movie Phone Booth.
Imagine a million streams of public access tv, mixed up with random bits of quality niche movies/shows....
THAT is what makes winamp5 cool. Now, i might just be ignorant, but is there another app that puts a selection of streaming video stations together for you to surf?
They're spending more money in electricity than it would have cost to buy the dedicated unit
Not if theyve disconnected the fans and run LRP.
The question is, will the US Justice system stand up to Corporate Criminals and toss these thieves in jail for their fraud.
Isnt filing obviously bogus suits, to pump and dump a stock just a little illegal?
Evolution will (shortly) be a very capable PIM. With an OS backend of somekind for scheduling, will cover 95% of the "outlook" users needs. But, Outlook does something that no GNU/Linux PIM does yet these form things.
Now, Im not trying to say "outlook r0x0r2 and evolution 6r00l2" or somesuch, so please ease up on the "M$ shill" retorts (and the 'outlook is insecure' w/ vb" stuff as well.
What you can do is send forms, with send a form to a user like an email -- the 'form' appears in their inbox). This form, can do whatever you'd like. You can build work-chain dependant systems with them.
Now, I imagine you can do similar via HTML forms and a Apache backend, but ive used these outlook forms before to enable some 'officialdom' instead of attached emails and forms.... and they worked pretty nice. (i built a simple form that made 'offical' communication between two departments and tracked the sending/recieving and reaction -- pretty simple) its pretty interesting.
I believe your right, It works *abobe* ALSA. ALSA will do the hardware bits while the MAS will back into it, or if your XWindow is running on OSX, back into the Darwin equivelent, or Windows, back into ActiveDirectX.NET(?)
Im not certain, can someone verify?
Ive not read the whole of the posts here, but Im willing to bet there are allot of people crying "oh, this is pork, governments wasting money -- ha ha you Europeans pay tones of taxes and see it wasted ha ha suckers. bureaucracy run amuck with naval gazing. ha ha." kinds of attitude.
Really, how better to dedicate the resources of ones culture than the investigation of the cause/effect and remedy for general, shared problems? Why the hell not? I can think of no better things to investigate.
The masses are convinced -- almost without pause -- that spending money on single-serving yogurt-like snacks(ever *made* your own yogurt -- VERY VERY GOOD & EASY), RetiredBoxerBrand electric grills (whats wrong with your stove?), ZXY(TM) Brand $200 shoes, and blah blah blah is a good reward in exchange for my personal effort (the $ youve collected in exchange for work).. I say hogwash.
If Im going to sacrifice 40hrs of ever week, I damn well want something worth while in exchange for my Cached-Work($). Being the sucker in some capitalist's get-rich scheme, at the expense of the planet (pollution/waste/garbage) is not all that attractive -- but insead of paying for research like this (in taxes) people are usually DrivenByMindControl to buying SomeDamnedGarbage.
Where am i going with this? What is more useful? What is the greatest benefit of the product of our collective resources (the above mentioned consumer-garbage) **OR** some peace from the endless noise in a mechanized-industrial city....
I am willing to forgo buying some of that seemingly-benign-consumer-garbage in order to help pay researchers to think about something useful. Are you? Im betting most sane, normal people would agree. Instead of working to make Widgets (as I do), I wish there was a greater market for doing something WorthWhile. The Automobile that I contribute to manufacturing is not a goal I consider worthy of my time. I have no problem working, its the *goal* or product of my effort that is worthless. But, we live in a world with F'ed up priorities (we spend to much of our Cached-Work($) buying Useless Garbage, making the production of Useless Garbage a more common goal that most would like)
These kinds of 'decisions' and 'trade-offs' are taking place all the time (every thing you do has an impact on the world). Stop and think occasionally: "what benefit, at what cost is my decision having to bear on myself and my community? What responsibility do I accept or abandon that are the consequences of this decision? How can I make the world just a little better at Zero or No 'cost' to myself or my community?"
So, how far off topic is this?
Well, if you buy the Bush line that there is no global warming, and pollution is good for you, then you probably feel the Greens are "extreme".
I think our time is now.
What it seems like is that there are some CEO's that will say anything for money-and they are gradually destroying the United States.
AH... your *not* possibly suggesting that a person's highest right as a human isnt 'anything for profit'? Your not actually proposing that something be done to maintain a manner of conduct of some sort... sheesh, that kind of thing could get in the way of the Free Market(TM).
I've been a member for a long time, and the content seems to be degenerating into a groupthink zealot factory with its own set of dogmas and censors.
I don't think this is the fundemental problem.
Actually, the rise of the internet and ease of publishing in general, this *is* a problem.
People will seek out sources of information that *reinforce* their world-view. We will build these feedback loops and vertical chimneys where every group becomes more isolated from reasonable, objective opinion that they become convinced that anyone who disagrees with them is grossly misinformed and stupid.
I dont know what to do about it, I find myself reading websites and books that really just reinforce my own ideas.... in time, Idont know what the consequences of this behaviour will be. Polorization? Extremism? Where, how and who will faciliated comprimise and understanding?
oh, about your .sig -- I am all for spreading ideas ..
but please, dont encourage people put stickers on stop signs. A) that wastes government's tax money and B) causes new stop signs to have to be manufactured/installed etc (pollution)
if you want to be cute, please consider the fucking consequences. your $0.01 sticker probably costs taxpayers $1500 to replace a gdamn stop sign...
why dont you draw mustaches on Corporate Billboards... try and pick a more appropriate 'victim' for your acts than *yourself*.