...show the ignorance of the Patent office for what is simply determining how to keep labor costs down by better regulating warehouse employee count, work hours and overtime.
This is not uncommon and has been in practice since the beginning of the industrial revolution.
What they are claiming is a computer based system that tells the customer when they might expect delivery based not on expected order from that customer but of expected order of their whole business and the work load of its employees.
This patent is not of matter that is novel, the problem has been dealt with in many different ways. This is a solution direction that anyone in the field of such need, knowing computers, would come up with.
In the UK such a patent application would be dismissed on the grounds of being a business method and more importantly incorporating computers to perform what would otherwise be human mental tasks.
Other ways of dealing with this warehouse labor issue is that of using standing orders and off overload discounts. I've been with a company for many years that I have a standing backup order with. If I forget to order each month then a backup order will be shipped, and usually of things they know I'll use as a matter of history and usually of less cost to me than my typical order. But if I place an order early in the month, vs. late where more are ordering instead of getting their backup order, I get additional benefits I can later use to get free products (except for shipping costs). This works because it helps the company determine and better control the needed labor force in both order taking and distribution. It helps them control costs.
That is all that this patent of amazon is dealing with. But Amazon being an online order business that it is, it doesn't have, nor would it work, a backup or standing order system that only consumable products can work in that way. Using history and extrapolating projected sales is however common practice in many businesses. In fact Black Friday and Xmas sales is used to indicate failure of success for the rest of the year for a lot of consumer business.
What has Amazon done but automate what we have been doing for a long time. Just because this calculator called a computer hasn't been around as long should not (in the UK it certainly doesn't) be grounds to grant a patent on something we were doing by hand/mind before computer came along.
The trillion dollar bet happened. read the transcript to really understand it and how the formula used was weakened or dis-empowered by being made open source, publicly available.
9/11 was not the first attempt on the WTC. check time lines of trillion dollar bet against the first attempt. It wasn't like South east Asia wasn't trying to be heard, but more like it was being intentionally ignored. Ted Turner, after 9/11 stated 9/11 was and act of desperation and he said this based upon his own newsmedia CNN research and reporting of the financial damage happening in Indonesia and that teh people knew it was the US but did not know how teh US was doing it. Later Ted Turner apologized, probably after he received and anthrax letter.
The so called gamble (how can something like this be a gamble when it is really an intentional drain - money doesn't grow on trees in south east asia and its no wonder it tanked - or more correctly became empty due the theft), it financially drained south east Asia, of which Indonesia was included and hit hard. CIA reports that Indonesia is 88% Islamic.
The US via the world stock market stole from them a great deal. It had and still has repercussions around the world.
Exception proves the rule. China was not affected as they didn't play in world stock markets however they did get Hong Kong Back and got a front row seat to the event and saw how the stock market can be manipulated and controlled. But now that they are in it, notice how we seem to be getting a lot of bad product from China? Money being put into china companies without really knowing their quality and knowledge standards of manufacturing. Maybe they need more open source knowledge so they we don't suffer their bad manufacturing.
World Bank run by the US offered to make loans to Indonesia, for an interest rate. It did not go over well at all, a matter of intentional usury and entrapment (remember the movie Entrapment.) But we saw how credit card rates dropped later to 0%. A matter of saying sorry?
Violence broke out in Indonesia after 9/11. But no where near as much as the violence we created in iraq.
WTC came down, other buildings damaged worse than building 7. but building 7 came down without anyone being hurt. Interesting in what it contained. Interesting how the stock market gamble was not publicly tied to Worldcom or Enron or other losers, as the evidence was destroyed in building 7. I believe there is also something regarding California's power station brown outs due not having the money.... they lost in the bet?
The ownership change of the WTC and problems of the building in asbestos health risks and decreasing tenants count along with an insurance policy that paid off 8 billion for a far lower investment....because the new owner insisted on the details of the terrorism clause in the policy. The payoff was much larger than the structure value lost. Inside job? There could have been some explosives planted to help insure and control the fall and reduce surrounding damage (hmmm, for insisting on details of a terrorist attack - was their effort taken to reduce surrounding damage should such an attack happen?) . Of course the option is to not believe anything more than a jet liner could take a building down that was supposedly designed to withstand a plane crash. But they did come down quite fast for such a supposed design. Perhaps faster than such design should allow? Faster newer jets not accounted for when the WTC was designed?
Anthrax from a US based Military base. The guy they tried blaming won in court more than Richard Jewel got for being blamed for the 1996 Olympic park bombing, but you didn't hear wide spread media coverage of the matter. No conspiracy, as a conspiracy takes more than one high enough ranking military official with enough clearance to access the store and know how to handle it. Only a fool would not see how easy and certain it would be that the government would fall all over it to terrorise the media i
Not only is someone able to find out about you, but of what others think of you along with a ton of other information you may not even be aware of as being accessible via the internet.
There is a word..... Libel.... and now if you know you did not get the job you can pursue a legal course against..... ????
Perhaps that is something worth mentioning to any potential employer. Perhaps its also worth mentioning or understanding if you are a potential employer.
People do things for reasons. bear with me, I'll make the point clear.
9/11 was a response to the Trillion Dollar bet It was no coincidence our defense system was in such a state as to not really respond. Nor was it coincidence that building 7 was intentionally taken down though it contained documents regarding matters of the trillion dollar bet that were under investigation by the SEC. Enron, Worldcom were a couple of the losers in the bet. The dot com boom was a result of some winners needing to put their money somewhere. And there is a lot more to this that is and has been "open source" publicly available. However, the Anthrax threat against the News Media by our own government and the set up of the "Clear Channel" news network resulted in hiding the truth.
Social Security ain't gonna be there for me, as I get annual reports as to what decreasing percentage of what is to be own me, will be paid me. Why is it decreasing? Because the US government keeps taking our money away from us to use it on so called wars to protect our freedom. I'm going to be real free when I don't have a place to live because the government stole from me.
I suspect the idea is that in time people will forget the wrongs done them, as they die off.
But check this out: What the World Wants It exposes the lies of teh self supported dependencies of war mongers and warfare.
The point is:
Its not religion, thats just philosophy that is wrapped around the real, and the real is all about money and trade value.
We the world have such a massive amount of money, we have the manpower and the knowledge, far more than we need to fix real world problems. And doing so would also remove real and many imaginary reasons supported by the real for warfare/terrorism, that warfare/terrorism would be clearly shown for what it really is. A self destructive, value draining illusion that we the world can do better by leaps and bound far beyond the constraints if this war illusion that not anyone having to do with commanding war is going to look good when this is put into practice.
Open Source, information made available, is what is exposing the fraud of war mongers and warfare.
And that is a SERIOUS Threat, a TERRORISM against the war mongers.
I have an old Dell Latitude xp450c that cost someone (not me) probably about $2500 in 1995 but today its not worth anything except to battery, memory and ac adaptor sellers who have more of these to sell, then there are such laptops existing.
This is a 50Mhz 486dx laptop with a 8megs of ram. What OS can I reasonable run on it besides DOS, baslinux (basic linux - damn small linux is to big). and some floppy based OSs like maybe if I can even QNX demo of i can even find it anymore? To bad I can't get AROS to run on it.
I also have an Amiga 4000 Toaster that runs at a warp engine speed of 28Mhz though I have more ram in it. and its still useful.
The point is, when it comes to OSs today the performance is pretty much a dud in a fair comparison to the better OSs of yesterday.
There has been a code bloat to use up increased speed, memory and storage in OSs today.
Today you can buy 1 gig thumb drives that could hold your whole system, personal files and duplicate backups of the same and still have plenty of room.
In fact, we should today have such sub-gig personal thumb drive based systems. Expecially considering what the more common applications are.
Performance sucks today, and its not just a windows bloatware matter.
This toolkit in comparison to instead installing a filter system that the MPAA (slashdot lame filter see this as junk characters) would then maintain a database off site from the university...
But students would find ways around the filter?
vs.
Their toolkit wrongly identifies students as illegal down loaders who actually aren't.
In other words, how is the toolkit going to verify an illegal download or is it just passing all traffic to the Motion Picture spys?
Somehow this sounds more Hitleronian tell on you family, then its supports education.
Just because the entertainment industry has found interest in attacking its customers, should the universities follow suit?
Yeah I got the ad think to right away. Perhaps this really belongs to geek gadgets... where there are probably far more interesting things that use less batteries.
I use a tiny url in an email, temporary web page, on irc, etc., somewhere that I'll get feedback or otherwise find out from the receives that its not doing what is expected. Then I know and the receivers knows.....NOT TO USE IT ANYMORE!
When there is enough call for a clean tinyurl service, many of them will pop up. Divide and overcome the unexpected..
For such things as IRC such as for code development, ie freenode python, I'd imagine the network would enable some sort of tinyurl...oh wait they do.... http://rafb.net/paste
Site wise, there is nothing stopping a site from providing such a tinyurl service to its users. For example, you visit a message forum and for use in the message forum you have such a service or method, ohhhh wait, there is a universal one.... it uses html to do it, like using html here on slashdot for example wordurl using "a href=".....
Since there are so many ways to do this tiny url idea and at various levels of control is there really a problem?
The whole thing suggest that we have the technology to analyze such a massive amount of constantly renewing information.
Assume that we do have such computing power, what would be better, more productive, perhaps even disease solving applications of such computing power? Now is it possible to extract and identify in such a massive constant flow of information what would be coded communication, coded into normal everyday phrases that only the receiver would recognize the meaning?
This spying wasn't to find terrorist. It was to get an overview of public opinion and public intelligence and for the use of the Bush administration intent on manipulation of the news media via scare tactic of the antrax threat. They had control over the news media, they needed to know what to have them tell the public.
There is this issue of the "Trillion Dollar bet" http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2704stockmarket.html About the winners and even more about the losers such as enron, worldcom, etc... But also about the retaliation reason/excuse of those who participated in the 9/11 WTC fall. Building 7 contained relevant SEC information and that building was intentionally taken down by US. Destroying the records being review for criminal activity.
Anyways, it really helps to have a "clear channel" view of the American public, when you want to manipulate them, deceive them.
The act was not against any individual but against the American public and the immunity BS is still applying cover-up tactics as it presents the matter in a false light.
On another front, if you are born in space in teh space of combined space station parts from numerious countries, which country do you have citizenship in?
Slashdot Mirror
...show the ignorance of the Patent office for what is simply determining how to keep labor costs down by better regulating warehouse employee count, work hours and overtime.
This is not uncommon and has been in practice since the beginning of the industrial revolution.
What they are claiming is a computer based system that tells the customer when they might expect delivery based not on expected order from that customer but of expected order of their whole business and the work load of its employees.
This patent is not of matter that is novel, the problem has been dealt with in many different ways. This is a solution direction that anyone in the field of such need, knowing computers, would come up with.
In the UK such a patent application would be dismissed on the grounds of being a business method and more importantly incorporating computers to perform what would otherwise be human mental tasks.
Other ways of dealing with this warehouse labor issue is that of using standing orders and off overload discounts.
I've been with a company for many years that I have a standing backup order with. If I forget to order each month then a backup order will be shipped, and usually of things they know I'll use as a matter of history and usually of less cost to me than my typical order. But if I place an order early in the month, vs. late where more are ordering instead of getting their backup order, I get additional benefits I can later use to get free products (except for shipping costs). This works because it helps the company determine and better control the needed labor force in both order taking and distribution. It helps them control costs.
That is all that this patent of amazon is dealing with. But Amazon being an online order business that it is, it doesn't have, nor would it work, a backup or standing order system that only consumable products can work in that way. Using history and extrapolating projected sales is however common practice in many businesses. In fact Black Friday and Xmas sales is used to indicate failure of success for the rest of the year for a lot of consumer business.
What has Amazon done but automate what we have been doing for a long time. Just because this calculator called a computer hasn't been around as long should not (in the UK it certainly doesn't) be grounds to grant a patent on something we were doing by hand/mind before computer came along.
All open source information.
The trillion dollar bet happened. read the transcript to really understand it and how the formula used was weakened or dis-empowered by being made open source, publicly available.
9/11 was not the first attempt on the WTC. check time lines of trillion dollar bet against the first attempt. It wasn't like South east Asia wasn't trying to be heard, but more like it was being intentionally ignored. Ted Turner, after 9/11 stated 9/11 was and act of desperation and he said this based upon his own newsmedia CNN research and reporting of the financial damage happening in Indonesia and that teh people knew it was the US but did not know how teh US was doing it. Later Ted Turner apologized, probably after he received and anthrax letter.
The so called gamble (how can something like this be a gamble when it is really an intentional drain - money doesn't grow on trees in south east asia and its no wonder it tanked - or more correctly became empty due the theft), it financially drained south east Asia, of which Indonesia was included and hit hard. CIA reports that Indonesia is 88% Islamic.
The US via the world stock market stole from them a great deal.
It had and still has repercussions around the world.
Exception proves the rule. China was not affected as they didn't play in world stock markets however they did get Hong Kong Back and got a front row seat to the event and saw how the stock market can be manipulated and controlled. But now that they are in it, notice how we seem to be getting a lot of bad product from China? Money being put into china companies without really knowing their quality and knowledge standards of manufacturing. Maybe they need more open source knowledge so they we don't suffer their bad manufacturing.
World Bank run by the US offered to make loans to Indonesia, for an interest rate. It did not go over well at all, a matter of intentional usury and entrapment (remember the movie Entrapment.) But we saw how credit card rates dropped later to 0%. A matter of saying sorry?
Violence broke out in Indonesia after 9/11. But no where near as much as the violence we created in iraq.
WTC came down, other buildings damaged worse than building 7. but building 7 came down without anyone being hurt. Interesting in what it contained.
Interesting how the stock market gamble was not publicly tied to Worldcom or Enron or other losers, as the evidence was destroyed in building 7.
I believe there is also something regarding California's power station brown outs due not having the money.... they lost in the bet?
The ownership change of the WTC and problems of the building in asbestos health risks and decreasing tenants count along with an insurance policy that paid off 8 billion for a far lower investment....because the new owner insisted on the details of the terrorism clause in the policy. The payoff was much larger than the structure value lost. Inside job? There could have been some explosives planted to help insure and control the fall and reduce surrounding damage (hmmm, for insisting on details of a terrorist attack - was their effort taken to reduce surrounding damage should such an attack happen?) . Of course the option is to not believe anything more than a jet liner could take a building down that was supposedly designed to withstand a plane crash. But they did come down quite fast for such a supposed design. Perhaps faster than such design should allow? Faster newer jets not accounted for when the WTC was designed?
Anthrax from a US based Military base. The guy they tried blaming won in court more than Richard Jewel got for being blamed for the 1996 Olympic park bombing, but you didn't hear wide spread media coverage of the matter. No conspiracy, as a conspiracy takes more than one high enough ranking military official with enough clearance to access the store and know how to handle it. Only a fool would not see how easy and certain it would be that the government would fall all over it to terrorise the media i
Not only is someone able to find out about you, but of what others think of you along with a ton of other information you may not even be aware of as being accessible via the internet.
..... ????
There is a word..... Libel.... and now if you know you did not get the job you can pursue a legal course against
Perhaps that is something worth mentioning to any potential employer.
Perhaps its also worth mentioning or understanding if you are a potential employer.
...were open source.
People do things for reasons.
bear with me, I'll make the point clear.
9/11 was a response to the Trillion Dollar bet
It was no coincidence our defense system was in such a state as to not really respond.
Nor was it coincidence that building 7 was intentionally taken down though it contained documents regarding matters of the
trillion dollar bet that were under investigation by the SEC. Enron, Worldcom were a couple of the losers in the bet.
The dot com boom was a result of some winners needing to put their money somewhere.
And there is a lot more to this that is and has been "open source" publicly available.
However, the Anthrax threat against the News Media by our own government and the set up of the "Clear Channel" news network resulted in hiding the truth.
Social Security ain't gonna be there for me, as I get annual reports as to what decreasing percentage of what is to be own me, will be paid me. Why is it decreasing? Because the US government keeps taking our money away from us to use it on so called wars to protect our freedom. I'm going to be real free when I don't have a place to live because the government stole from me.
I suspect the idea is that in time people will forget the wrongs done them, as they die off.
But check this out: What the World Wants
It exposes the lies of teh self supported dependencies of war mongers and warfare.
The point is:
Its not religion, thats just philosophy that is wrapped around the real, and the real is all about money and trade value.
We the world have such a massive amount of money, we have the manpower and the knowledge, far more than we need to fix real world problems. And doing so would also remove real and many imaginary reasons supported by the real for warfare/terrorism, that warfare/terrorism would be clearly shown for what it really is. A self destructive, value draining illusion that we the world can do better by leaps and bound far beyond the constraints if this war illusion that not anyone having to do with commanding war is going to look good when this is put into practice.
Open Source, information made available, is what is exposing the fraud of war mongers and warfare.
And that is a SERIOUS Threat, a TERRORISM against the war mongers.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1005391949403496551
I have an old Dell Latitude xp450c that cost someone (not me) probably about $2500 in 1995 but today its not worth anything except to battery, memory and ac adaptor sellers who have more of these to sell, then there are such laptops existing.
This is a 50Mhz 486dx laptop with a 8megs of ram. What OS can I reasonable run on it besides DOS, baslinux (basic linux - damn small linux is to big). and some floppy based OSs like maybe if I can even QNX demo of i can even find it anymore? To bad I can't get AROS to run on it.
I also have an Amiga 4000 Toaster that runs at a warp engine speed of 28Mhz though I have more ram in it. and its still useful.
The point is, when it comes to OSs today the performance is pretty much a dud in a fair comparison to the better OSs of yesterday.
There has been a code bloat to use up increased speed, memory and storage in OSs today.
Today you can buy 1 gig thumb drives that could hold your whole system, personal files and duplicate backups of the same and still have plenty of room.
In fact, we should today have such sub-gig personal thumb drive based systems. Expecially considering what the more common applications are.
Performance sucks today, and its not just a windows bloatware matter.
This toolkit in comparison to instead installing a filter system that the MPAA (slashdot lame filter see this as junk characters) would then maintain a database off site from the university ...
But students would find ways around the filter?
vs.
Their toolkit wrongly identifies students as illegal down loaders who actually aren't.
In other words, how is the toolkit going to verify an illegal download or is it just passing all traffic to the Motion Picture spys?
Somehow this sounds more Hitleronian tell on you family, then its supports education.
Just because the entertainment industry has found interest in attacking its customers, should the universities follow suit?
Driving on the internet, its a privilege not a right. Do you have your P2P license?
Illegal downloaders: how to cross the virtual border without getting caught by using someone elses license.
How to get the wifi connections in your area shut down by wifijacking them.
Information is power and its not free, but do you pay for it or make someone else pay for it for you?
..some mental exercise out of the 90's
how to cause the blue screen of death to happen simultaneously across all computers...
Gee you must have some really good stuff as you have also said Wikipedia copied some of your site.
how about a link to all the wonderful stuff of yours?
...the bad English of the article.
Yeah I got the ad think to right away. Perhaps this really belongs to geek gadgets... where there are probably far more interesting things that use less batteries.
...is this saying the American Mathematical Society is accepting proprietary software used in proofs?
Seems the only problem here is one of the position of the AMS regarding what is acceptable.
I use a tiny url in an email, temporary web page, on irc, etc., somewhere that I'll get feedback or otherwise find out from the receives that its not doing what is expected. Then I know and the receivers knows.....NOT TO USE IT ANYMORE!
...oh wait they do.... http://rafb.net/paste
When there is enough call for a clean tinyurl service, many of them will pop up. Divide and overcome the unexpected..
For such things as IRC such as for code development, ie freenode python, I'd imagine the network would enable some sort of tinyurl
Site wise, there is nothing stopping a site from providing such a tinyurl service to its users. For example, you visit a message forum and for use in the message forum you have such a service or method, ohhhh wait, there is a universal one.... it uses html to do it, like using html here on slashdot for example wordurl using "a href=".....
Since there are so many ways to do this tiny url idea and at various levels of control is there really a problem?
....reminder of the typical "make a claim of one thing and do the opposite --- and profit"
Oh so typical of the computer.....
...started when Bill Gates ported BASIC.
The practice of making money off others peoples work.
....is that the theory of everything equates to "Surfs up dude!"
They are going to unplug the internet.
...popular usage and not by committee.
Ah, so this is a statement that we are getting back to that.
We don't need a foundation. all we need is popular usage....
Someone get the score and set it to music and make both available freely on the internet.
If he complains of copyright infringement then his book is a fraud.
The whole thing suggest that we have the technology to analyze such a massive amount of constantly renewing information.
Assume that we do have such computing power, what would be better, more productive, perhaps even disease solving applications of such computing power?
Now is it possible to extract and identify in such a massive constant flow of information what would be coded communication, coded into normal everyday phrases that only the receiver would recognize the meaning?
This spying wasn't to find terrorist. It was to get an overview of public opinion and public intelligence and for the use of the Bush administration intent on manipulation of the news media via scare tactic of the antrax threat. They had control over the news media, they needed to know what to have them tell the public.
There is this issue of the "Trillion Dollar bet" http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2704stockmarket.html
About the winners and even more about the losers such as enron, worldcom, etc...
But also about the retaliation reason/excuse of those who participated in the 9/11 WTC fall. Building 7 contained relevant SEC information and that building was intentionally taken down by US. Destroying the records being review for criminal activity.
Anyways, it really helps to have a "clear channel" view of the American public, when you want to manipulate them, deceive them.
The act was not against any individual but against the American public and the immunity BS is still applying cover-up tactics as it presents the matter in a false light.
...or has the professionalism of astronauts diminished from what it was years ago?
Oh wait..... Woman astronaut stalks.... http://sfbayguardian.com/entry.php?catid=77&entry_id=2903
Yeah I guess it has...
On another front, if you are born in space in teh space of combined space station parts from numerious countries, which country do you have citizenship in?
maybe I listened to it and decided I didn't like it enough to really want to listen to it again.
Seriously, what radio stations play whole albums that one would know what they are buying unless they hear the whole thing.
Also if all sales go to the group with no go between label, did the group do better?
study any subject matter well enough to pass a test.
Just consider it detention....