As much as I agree that this isnt the right way to fight this battle there is a a logic difference in the 2 types of "censorship"
1) the ISP is protecting themselves from a group of ppl that want to "hack" any machine in search of copyrighted material, they have no responsibility for the stability of the machines they search.
2) RIAA is forcing ppl to shutdown websites that they dont agree with (most recent being the chinese web-site of _links_, there were no mp3s they were links) RIAA doesnt get the traffic, they dont lose bandwidth resources, their systems arent gettings unauthorized/unwelcome connections
All of this over Britney_Spears_Song_of_the_Week.mp3, as much as I dont like pirating songs, (i have _three_ mp3s I dont own the cds for, and I will buy the singles the next time I am near a music store)I think abitrary connections, with risk of data loss (and other stuff) is unacceptable.
this is like putting up a brick wall on the end of everyones driveway (at the risk of it falling over and crushing a car) to stop drunk drivers
what i do at work is we have motherboards that allow serial connects to see the bios and controll it, so we use the kernel option for serial console in linux and get one machine with a lot of serial cards in it.. we ssh into that box and then run minicom and we have a profile for every server so its a simple as minicom servername , although we do use ssh when we can, the serial is just a fall back , as an add bonus, routers and other apliances with serial connect just fine
most (all ) intel serverboards support serial (i know its not AMD but hey, i dont make all the choices) and if you have windows you can just call back to vnc when the logon screen comes up (you can do that right, i remeber someone saying that you cant run stuff while loggin it... but i never needed to find out)
I think with a discussion like this we have to remember an old childhood saying; "sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me" Many of the examples listed in the parent seems clear to me whats 'ok' and 'wrong'
blasphemy words are 'ok' but burning down a church is arsen.
violence (images of real-life ritual mass murder it seems to me that murder is already covered as wrong with our current laws but if the video is leaked out to the media it is 'sometimes' aired. We already see shows about polices chases gone wrong (and etc) on TLC (the learning channel) where it ends in a shooting, you see 4-5 officers shooting a guy until he is dead, and everything is in plain sight. or a camera at a 7-11 tapes a robbery where someone gets beaten, that gets a lot of air time,
Real-life rape vids once again someone is hurt in the process of this, so i just i think its 'wrong'
Nazi memorabilia in Germany Noone is hurt when owning a plate, however hunting down jews is 'wrong'
how to build a nulcear bomb in twelve easy steps ahh this is prolly my favorite, there is nothing wrong with reading these docs, however attempting to create (and definatly using) said items are illegal, I have read 'anarchist's cookbook' a dozen of so times but i have never created anything from those books that i couldn't buy in a store
basically we just have to concider the ppl involved if someone is hurt, physically, mentally, emotionly (yes i guess sticks and stones may not be complete) and the person cant get out of the situation then its wrong, but if you dont like something and all you have to do is close a browser window or just walk out of a room to make everything ok again then let it be. I am not saying if you walk into a room where someone is getting beat up just walk again, because (s)he (the victim) prolly doesnt want to be there either and that would make it wrong.
-rev
this is my opinion, i know it differs from others, and i accept that.
did you perhaps go through the tutorial? the blender interface is amazing for its job, i wouldnt put it on a file manager but for 3d is rocks, oh and by the way, if you use a mouse in blender for more then selecting and move/rotate/transform you are using the interface wrong.
i REALLY REALLY hated the interface when i started but over the span of a week i learned to love it, its great.
sorry for being so defensive but why is an editor for a "news outlet" commenting on the interface? thats like a tour de france winner bashing cars for having a steering wheel instead of handle bars
I feel that i should pipe in how the insurance companies work here, I used to work in the IT department of a large world wide insurance company. and there is one important thing you should know:
insurance companies lose money on insurance, they know this, they deal with this, its not a real problem.
what they do make money on is investments
so you ask, then why do they sell insurance?
well then need to get capital from somewhere before they invest, dont they?
laff, thats the "riot" by thunder ranch. not exactly but i assume its mods are for the hybrid part or it could be the riot 2 (thunder ranch is slow on putting things on their page)
ppl seem to slamming these, but they are assuming everybody is running on these, and that is WRONG, ITS JUST THE SALES FORCE, you know the ppl that only on into the office once a week for team meetings or what have you. why have a desk for your mobile sales force when you only need 1/5th the space at any given time? this is sun's solution and its pretty sweet, works perfect for a sales force.
this is prolly the best branded solution I can sell, everything i do is "custom". I am every happy with the sunrays that are the thin clients, and the sunray server software, every slick, now i am just hoping for a linux port of that software:p
and ppl wonder why (and make fun) when i tell them i am learning mandarin (i'm still not consistant with the 4 tones).
just look how far western cultures have come in the past 100 years, and the chinese dont even have to invent stuff, just buy it. (not entirely true but they have an easy ride until they catch up)
10 years might be hard, but 50 is easy, there is a good chance i'll be a live, but to old to learn it right, and my kids (when they happen) will have a lot of mandarin and will fine with the new global language
didnt france veto esperanto because they figured french was already the global language (and it was at the time) but they were proven wrong in less then 30 years?
OK, just so you know the company i work for is solutions provider for the medical/atomic/chemistry fields so we sell things that you desire (a scanner thats good enuf for xray film). there are a couple of places where you can get this stuff. in the US there is a company called "cobra scan" (i think , its close enough to find them) and while their scanners look pretty shitty, they will fly someone your lab to calibrate the scanner to your acceptible margin of error, another company called vidar sells scanners that are very nicely built. these scanners are much more pricey then most (~7kUSD) however they have the accuracy you need and still used standard twain drivers and can most likey get them to work in what ever enviroment you have.
something you should go and check out is a trade show RSNA which shows up medical scanners and other imaging hardware that can be usefull to you.
RSNA is held in chicago.
i am aware of ssh -X, but it is much slower, i recommend ssh -X over the net, but in trusted enviroments i use DISPLAY=my_local_box:0.0 as the lag is greatly reduced. ssh -X localhost you can see a large difference in performance.
i am aware that gnumeric is a gnomelib i find that gnumeric runs nicer the staroffice, and it has all the features that i need however there is a big difference in running the whole enviroment and one app.
yes i am sorry i forgot many lite windowmangers include Xfce windowmaker and afterstep i dont have more then passing expirence with them.
and yes i use a geforce so my games are at 95% of windows, however X 4 was designed to allow a more direct approach (least thats what i get from the flow charts)
I am kinda upset to hear how ppl are so willing to ditch X for faster video/games. i get more then enough frames in quake3/desent3/heavygear 2 (the only loki games i own) and i dont drop frame in video (even divX) and as i only have 400Mhz to play with i dont understand why ppl are think X is so slow.
however being able to ssh into any box and typing export DISPLAY=my_local_box:0.0 and then being able to run all the the remote Xapps on my box is is one of the greatest features on the planet.
if you want to increase the speed of your X its not replacing X, its replacing your KDE and gnome with fvwm2 (which is what i use) or even blackbox.
i see all these comments about enlightenment and KDE and gnome ( although i use GTK, not gnomelibs, _GTK_ for my devel and most usable apps) i shudder, because they are so slow, and then the same ppl complain about X, thats just wrong. if you want a fast system, a recommend the following:
replace KDE/enlightenment/gnome with fvwm/blackbox/twm
replace staroffice with abiword/gnumeric
replace kmail with mutt (read the help mutt as more features)
change your 14meg wallpaper with xsetroot -solid black
granted transparent video will have some important uses in editing, however what has to ask how is it done in irix platforms now, is there a hardware solution that we can not compete against because its just so great?
i want X, maybe they can merged, kinda like now ppl have -nolisten tcp.. if they turn off networking they get directfb support.
not only do they allow linux/*BSD they recommend it
my Ip is static
they offered me 6 routed ipaddress
in the past 4 months i have been down less then 5 minutes
the only problem is if your stupid, they will only put up with you so long
ie. dont send them a log of hack attempts against your PC originating from your ip.
there is a standalone network cam on think geek
that runs its own webserver, and it supports ppp and ethernet. so buy one and get a cell phone with the data-cable to rj11 adaptor and ppl can connect directly to the cam.
http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/things/36a0.html
remember the APEX player posted here on/.? well it can play unencrypted DVDs. its an option in the "hidden menu". APEX was thinking a head. and i am lucky i scored one before MPAA found out. ever try to play an ecrypted DVD with CSS turn off?... kinda funny!
1) that was 2% of my problem. not even a concern in the grand scheme of things
2) i did it today, posted today, even if i subcribed to the list, that email wasnt posted today.
3)my last remark states: this is to help others if they get into issue.ie dont do what i did.
-rev
no wonder you posted AC.
i have been using the phase1 (starting at v12) debs and also apt-getting the phase2.
I currently rebuilt my system (testing, wanted to be super clean after) and i stayed at x3.when x4 came into woody (yesterday i believe) the problems started.
i needed to reboot my box do to hardware issues. nothing serious. then when i when to start X i found my backspace and delete werent working (guys on irc had a riot with my typing, mad props to #clan_gun:) ) the keyboard maps for X were gone.
so i wanted to look at the problem, noticed x3 and x4 installed on my box ( first time i used dselect in a while). i thought to my self "what a great time to upgrade to x4" i removed x3 and added the extra x4 that was missing.
shut down X when to restart, startx was missing.
i removed EVERYTHING x related and reinstalled x4 debs. now everything seems fine.
now. nvidia GLX drivers, i had test10, compiled with warnings about a INC and DEC pionter not right. and insmod NVdriver gave me "unknown symbol xxINCxx() and xxxDECxxx()
downgraded to test7, module compiled fine.
removed mesa conficts and restarted X couldnt start X.... su segfaulted. reboot worked
ran blender system locked (harshly) manually needed to run fsck./var/lib/dpkg/available was missing touched it and continued
changed xf86config-4 back to nv from nvidia
x wouldnt restart. removed x4 installed x4 everything khosher ( i am sure i only needed to remove/usr/X11/lib/modules/extension/*glx* but i reinstalled anyways)
now everything works minus closed source nvidia glx.
not fscking with anything else:)
-rev
normally i am not this lame, just wanted to share with others incase they ran into similar problems.
some key points never made.
he stated it was a DNS hack.
- he port scanned www.yankees.com
- he connected to www.yankees.com:21 and 80. he didnt connect to the yankees server. he connected to the crackers server that the DNS now pointed to.
- his only real mistake was connecting to old.yankees.com
ok so now 3dfx has openGL, will the drivers for x-free-86 4.0.x be made avalible shortly after/on release for nice FAST oGL performance in linux, for are we going to has to stay content with the less then perfect nvidia support?
-rev
and are they going to acutally going to maintain the drivers and not just announce linux support, release version 0.0.1b of the driver and never update it?
one can hope cant they?
yes that is what i was thinking, the SGI 320 was an intel box but the kernel required their chipset to be compiled into it making the kernel incompatible with all other platforms and vise vera. however the apps did work *unported*
user space apps should work on the USIII, however i was concerned about kernel level code being incompatible, so that fact that they are working on the port is the next best thing
In exchange for such compensation, all information you submit, and any intellectual property in such information (including source code and other executables) will become the property of the SDMI Foundation and/or the proponent of that technology.
ok so are they trying to own all methods of cracking before its released?
how clear cut of a case would MPAA have if they already owned DeCSS? DeSDMI would have to be COMPLETELY different from all the submittions during this test period.
and they are giving us ( not me but the rest of/.) 3 weeks ?!?! how long was DeCSS in the making?`
one last statment, as soon as there are software players out there cracking SDMI will be 10000x easier.
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As much as I agree that this isnt the right way to fight this battle there is a a logic difference in the 2 types of "censorship"
1) the ISP is protecting themselves from a group of ppl that want to "hack" any machine in search of copyrighted material, they have no responsibility for the stability of the machines they search.
2) RIAA is forcing ppl to shutdown websites that they dont agree with (most recent being the chinese web-site of _links_, there were no mp3s they were links) RIAA doesnt get the traffic, they dont lose bandwidth resources, their systems arent gettings unauthorized/unwelcome connections
All of this over Britney_Spears_Song_of_the_Week.mp3, as much as I dont like pirating songs, (i have _three_ mp3s I dont own the cds for, and I will buy the singles the next time I am near a music store)I think abitrary connections, with risk of data loss (and other stuff) is unacceptable.
this is like putting up a brick wall on the end of everyones driveway (at the risk of it falling over and crushing a car) to stop drunk drivers
-rev
what i do at work is we have motherboards that allow serial connects to see the bios and controll it, so we use the kernel option for serial console in linux and get one machine with a lot of serial cards in it .. we ssh into that box and then run minicom and we have a profile for every server so its a simple as minicom servername , although we do use ssh when we can, the serial is just a fall back , as an add bonus, routers and other apliances with serial connect just fine
... but i never needed to find out)
most (all ) intel serverboards support serial (i know its not AMD but hey, i dont make all the choices) and if you have windows you can just call back to vnc when the logon screen comes up (you can do that right, i remeber someone saying that you cant run stuff while loggin it
-rev
Many of the examples listed in the parent seems clear to me whats 'ok' and 'wrong' blasphemy words are 'ok' but burning down a church is arsen.
violence (images of real-life ritual mass murder it seems to me that murder is already covered as wrong with our current laws but if the video is leaked out to the media it is 'sometimes' aired. We already see shows about polices chases gone wrong (and etc) on TLC (the learning channel) where it ends in a shooting, you see 4-5 officers shooting a guy until he is dead, and everything is in plain sight. or a camera at a 7-11 tapes a robbery where someone gets beaten, that gets a lot of air time,
Real-life rape vids once again someone is hurt in the process of this, so i just i think its 'wrong'
Nazi memorabilia in Germany Noone is hurt when owning a plate, however hunting down jews is 'wrong'
how to build a nulcear bomb in twelve easy steps ahh this is prolly my favorite, there is nothing wrong with reading these docs, however attempting to create (and definatly using) said items are illegal, I have read 'anarchist's cookbook' a dozen of so times but i have never created anything from those books that i couldn't buy in a store
basically we just have to concider the ppl involved if someone is hurt, physically, mentally, emotionly (yes i guess sticks and stones may not be complete) and the person cant get out of the situation then its wrong, but if you dont like something and all you have to do is close a browser window or just walk out of a room to make everything ok again then let it be.
I am not saying if you walk into a room where someone is getting beat up just walk again, because (s)he (the victim) prolly doesnt want to be there either and that would make it wrong.
-rev this is my opinion, i know it differs from others, and i accept that.
did you perhaps go through the tutorial? the blender interface is amazing for its job, i wouldnt put it on a file manager but for 3d is rocks, oh and by the way, if you use a mouse in blender for more then selecting and move/rotate/transform you are using the interface wrong.
i REALLY REALLY hated the interface when i started but over the span of a week i learned to love it, its great.
sorry for being so defensive but why is an editor for a "news outlet" commenting on the interface? thats like a tour de france winner bashing cars for having a steering wheel instead of handle bars
stick to what you know.
I feel that i should pipe in how the insurance companies work here, I used to work in the IT department of a large world wide insurance company. and there is one important thing you should know:
insurance companies lose money on insurance, they know this, they deal with this, its not a real problem.
what they do make money on is investments
so you ask, then why do they sell insurance?
well then need to get capital from somewhere before they invest, dont they?
-rev
laff, thats the "riot" by thunder ranch.
not exactly but i assume its mods are for the hybrid part or it could be the riot 2 (thunder ranch is slow on putting things on their page)
-rev
ppl seem to slamming these, but they are assuming everybody is running on these, and that is WRONG, ITS JUST THE SALES FORCE, you know the ppl that only on into the office once a week for team meetings or what have you.
:p
why have a desk for your mobile sales force when you only need 1/5th the space at any given time?
this is sun's solution and its pretty sweet, works perfect for a sales force.
this is prolly the best branded solution I can sell, everything i do is "custom".
I am every happy with the sunrays that are the thin clients, and the sunray server software, every slick, now i am just hoping for a linux port of that software
I wish both of you the best of luck.
-rev
and ppl wonder why (and make fun) when i tell them i am learning mandarin (i'm still not consistant with the 4 tones).
just look how far western cultures have come in the past 100 years, and the chinese dont even have to invent stuff, just buy it. (not entirely true but they have an easy ride until they catch up)
10 years might be hard, but 50 is easy, there is a good chance i'll be a live, but to old to learn it right, and my kids (when they happen) will have a lot of mandarin and will fine with the new global language
didnt france veto esperanto because they figured french was already the global language (and it was at the time) but they were proven wrong in less then 30 years?
-rev
something you should go and check out is a trade show RSNA which shows up medical scanners and other imaging hardware that can be usefull to you.
RSNA is held in chicago.
-rev
i am aware that gnumeric is a gnomelib i find that gnumeric runs nicer the staroffice, and it has all the features that i need however there is a big difference in running the whole enviroment and one app.
yes i am sorry i forgot many lite windowmangers include Xfce windowmaker and afterstep i dont have more then passing expirence with them.
and yes i use a geforce so my games are at 95% of windows, however X 4 was designed to allow a more direct approach (least thats what i get from the flow charts)
-rev
however being able to ssh into any box and typing export DISPLAY=my_local_box:0.0 and then being able to run all the the remote Xapps on my box is is one of the greatest features on the planet.
if you want to increase the speed of your X its not replacing X, its replacing your KDE and gnome with fvwm2 (which is what i use) or even blackbox.
i see all these comments about enlightenment and KDE and gnome ( although i use GTK, not gnomelibs, _GTK_ for my devel and most usable apps) i shudder, because they are so slow, and then the same ppl complain about X, thats just wrong. if you want a fast system, a recommend the following:
granted transparent video will have some important uses in editing, however what has to ask how is it done in irix platforms now, is there a hardware solution that we can not compete against because its just so great?
i want X, maybe they can merged, kinda like now ppl have -nolisten tcp
-rev
monkey island 1 2 3 (4?)
serious proplem solving (with think out side the box properties)
monkey 3 island that good, the "outside the box" got a little carried away for me.
violence is limited to insult sword fighting, shooting tenticles with shrink rays and other, (less the loony toons violence)
theres are entertaining and educational,
-rev
lets not forget that lemonade stand game!!
- 800k/s upstream
- my own email server
- they do my mx20
- they host my dns with unlimited changes
- my ip reverses to MY domain name
- not only do they allow linux/*BSD they recommend it
- my Ip is static
- they offered me 6 routed ipaddress
- in the past 4 months i have been down less then 5 minutes
the only problem is if your stupid, they will only put up with you so longie. dont send them a log of hack attempts against your PC originating from your ip.
password: ilovetux
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messy but quick post. sorry
well it can play unencrypted DVDs. its an option in the "hidden menu". APEX was thinking a head. and i am lucky i scored one before MPAA found out.
ever try to play an ecrypted DVD with CSS turn off?
-rev
1) that was 2% of my problem. not even a concern in the grand scheme of things
2) i did it today, posted today, even if i subcribed to the list, that email wasnt posted today.
3)my last remark states: this is to help others if they get into issue.ie dont do what i did.
-rev
no wonder you posted AC.
I currently rebuilt my system (testing, wanted to be super clean after) and i stayed at x3.when x4 came into woody (yesterday i believe) the problems started.
i needed to reboot my box do to hardware issues. nothing serious. then when i when to start X i found my backspace and delete werent working (guys on irc had a riot with my typing, mad props to #clan_gun :) ) the keyboard maps for X were gone.
so i wanted to look at the problem, noticed x3 and x4 installed on my box ( first time i used dselect in a while). i thought to my self "what a great time to upgrade to x4" i removed x3 and added the extra x4 that was missing. shut down X when to restart, startx was missing.
i removed EVERYTHING x related and reinstalled x4 debs. now everything seems fine.
now. nvidia GLX drivers, i had test10, compiled with warnings about a INC and DEC pionter not right. and insmod NVdriver gave me "unknown symbol xxINCxx() and xxxDECxxx() downgraded to test7, module compiled fine.
removed mesa conficts and restarted X couldnt start X.... su segfaulted. reboot worked
ran blender system locked (harshly) manually needed to run fsck. /var/lib/dpkg/available was missing touched it and continued
changed xf86config-4 back to nv from nvidia x wouldnt restart. removed x4 installed x4 everything khosher ( i am sure i only needed to remove /usr/X11/lib/modules/extension/*glx* but i reinstalled anyways)
now everything works minus closed source nvidia glx.
not fscking with anything else :)
-rev
normally i am not this lame, just wanted to share with others incase they ran into similar problems.
he stated it was a DNS hack.
- he port scanned www.yankees.com
- he connected to www.yankees.com:21 and 80.
he didnt connect to the yankees server. he connected to the crackers server that the DNS now pointed to.
- his only real mistake was connecting to old.yankees.com
-rev
Note: This article is a piece of satire meant to brighten your day.
-rev
-rev
and are they going to acutally going to maintain the drivers and not just announce linux support, release version 0.0.1b of the driver and never update it? one can hope cant they?
user space apps should work on the USIII, however i was concerned about kernel level code being incompatible, so that fact that they are working on the port is the next best thing
thx
-rev
-rev
ok so are they trying to own all methods of cracking before its released?
how clear cut of a case would MPAA have if they already owned DeCSS? DeSDMI would have to be COMPLETELY different from all the submittions during this test period.
and they are giving us ( not me but the rest of /.) 3 weeks ?!?! how long was DeCSS in the making?`
one last statment, as soon as there are software players out there cracking SDMI will be 10000x easier.
rev