SCO said that IBM/Sequent had contributed about 148 files, or 168,276 lines, of "direct" Unix code to the Linux 2.4 and 2.5 kernels--in violation of the original System V contract, which prohibited the transfer of ownership of the code to third parties.
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SCO, of Lindon, Utah, has found 80 lines of contributed code in the Linux kernel that it said directly infringe the System V copyright. Roughly half of an additional 150 lines of code also contain code that directly infringes, Sontag said.
While I'm not a supporter of SCO's actions, accurate quoting is deserved.
I have mod points but decided to post instead of using them. Three points against this crowd is pretty useless anyway. The overwhelming trend in Slashdot these days is to be a cynical egotist. Knock ideas using flawed logic supported by the rabble. Unfortunately, there is no longer the critical mass of educated thinkers required to restore balance.
I applaud the intelligence and incisiveness of your posting.
The mobile phone with camera issue is touchy in a lot of places, including Saudi Arabia - the concept of privacy is involved. It's accented in Saudi because the people are particularly sensitive about having their photo taken without their permission. It is considered a strong violation of privacy. No different from places, in the West for example, that have banned mobile phones in locations such as gyms. On the grounds they may have these cameras that are not immediately obvious.
You forgot the maybe. If no copy is made, and it isn't worth it to actually buy it, they don't make any money either.
I wasn't discussing the demand for or quality of the product. If the CD is a flop because it's yet more production line crap that's one issue. But if the CD is potentially profitable and they lose sales because it is being copied that is a separate issue. It is this issue that I was referring to when discussing losses.
There's a difference, you are providing content on a public web server. This is obviously intended to be viewed if you haven't taken steps to prevent people from viewing it (password protection or a notice outlining the rights they have to access the material). The MP3 has been taken from a CD which has stated its' copyright claims, however the copyright notice has been 'removed' by the time you 'find' the MP3.
So...why do they say copying music files is "stealing"? Nobody loses any physical property, nothing of monetary value, but yet "copying" is equal to "stealing" in their minds...
Loss of revenue? If a CD is copied then the record company has lost the revenue they would have gained if the CD was purchased by those receiving the copies.
While I agree with you to a certain extent, I do have a lot of sympathy for those who try to get into Linux but get overwhelmed. Linux is a lot more difficult to get up and running with. It's also more difficult to get some peripherals working under Linux, peripherals that people take for granted under Windows. Most of the time you can sit down and read the documentation but some of that is pretty overwhelming too. Personally, I have Mandrake on my firewall box, Redhat 9 on my P4 (really coming of age as a desktop OS) but do most things on my PowerBook (OS X). Getting my Palm PDA to work with RH 8 was incredibly painful. There are a lot of things that people take as a given when it comes to their OS. Not being able to do that with a new OS is frustrating and feels like a step backwards.
Also, at the moment the Linux world, IMHO, seems to be undecided as to whether it wants switchers or wants to maintain a user base of dedicated techies
The courts are involved because the film distributors are creating a monopoly that keeps ticket prices artifically high. You could probably accuse the cinemas of operating a cartel also. easyCinema are prepared to pay the going rate to screen the movie but are going to allow the ticket price to be determined by market forces. However they are prevented from doing so because a monopoly is profiting from the exclusion of market forces. Therefore this is a case for the courts (in the UK and other EU countries) because consumers are impacted.
Take your own advice - RTFA. James Rothnie states that the cost of serving popcorn is expensive. Unless you know something he doesn't about f&b then don't write it off as a "pretty dumb idea". A crucial part of their business model is to minimise their overheads. By not employing people to sell low return products they are reducing staffing costs. This saving is significant. Yes, they still pay for cleaners but they probably require fewer of these. As for you and your mates hopping the gate, contract security guards will probably handle that problem. They are cheaper than having dedicated ushers and quite effective.
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Because Escher wasn't constrained by bringing his invention into physical being his design is different from Dyson's, surely? Escher's drawings don't give directions as to how they would be assembled in three-dimensional space - the whole point was that many *look* three-dimensional but can only ever exist two-dimensionally. Therefore there had to be an inventive aspect to Dyson's contribution.
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Just before you get too carried away having a go at Dyson.. you should note that Phillips *built* it. While he may have had to do most of the work, it was to fulfill Dyson's idea. It would probably be more fair to say; while Dyson invented it, Phillips created it.
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.. and it isn't the quickest to reboot either! Mind you, I don't find I'm rebooting that frequently compared to my Windows machine.
would you like some 1s, to go, with that?
Intelligent humour, a /. rarity! Parent deserves a +5 funny.
Do you have a link to where these statistics are published?
Way kewl, I'd love to have the government controlling music distribution rather than the RIAA.
Reading the full article that you quote:
SCO said that IBM/Sequent had contributed about 148 files, or 168,276 lines, of "direct" Unix code to the Linux 2.4 and 2.5 kernels--in violation of the original System V contract, which prohibited the transfer of ownership of the code to third parties.
and
SCO, of Lindon, Utah, has found 80 lines of contributed code in the Linux kernel that it said directly infringe the System V copyright. Roughly half of an additional 150 lines of code also contain code that directly infringes, Sontag said.
While I'm not a supporter of SCO's actions, accurate quoting is deserved.
Moderating it as troll is unfair, however moderating it as funny is over rating it.
I'm sure Centreshift would like your recommendation of an invincible hosting operation that's within their budget.
... and you think you count among the ms-hating-general-bitching rabble? :-)
I have mod points but decided to post instead of using them. Three points against this crowd is pretty useless anyway. The overwhelming trend in Slashdot these days is to be a cynical egotist. Knock ideas using flawed logic supported by the rabble. Unfortunately, there is no longer the critical mass of educated thinkers required to restore balance.
I applaud the intelligence and incisiveness of your posting.
... mainly the ones that the USA 'frees'? :-)
The mobile phone with camera issue is touchy in a lot of places, including Saudi Arabia - the concept of privacy is involved. It's accented in Saudi because the people are particularly sensitive about having their photo taken without their permission. It is considered a strong violation of privacy. No different from places, in the West for example, that have banned mobile phones in locations such as gyms. On the grounds they may have these cameras that are not immediately obvious.
You forgot the maybe. If no copy is made, and it isn't worth it to actually buy it, they don't make any money either.
I wasn't discussing the demand for or quality of the product. If the CD is a flop because it's yet more production line crap that's one issue. But if the CD is potentially profitable and they lose sales because it is being copied that is a separate issue. It is this issue that I was referring to when discussing losses.
There's a difference, you are providing content on a public web server. This is obviously intended to be viewed if you haven't taken steps to prevent people from viewing it (password protection or a notice outlining the rights they have to access the material). The MP3 has been taken from a CD which has stated its' copyright claims, however the copyright notice has been 'removed' by the time you 'find' the MP3.
So...why do they say copying music files is "stealing"? Nobody loses any physical property, nothing of monetary value, but yet "copying" is equal to "stealing" in their minds...
Loss of revenue? If a CD is copied then the record company has lost the revenue they would have gained if the CD was purchased by those receiving the copies.
Oh for some mod points :-) Very 'insightful'!
While I agree with you to a certain extent, I do have a lot of sympathy for those who try to get into Linux but get overwhelmed. Linux is a lot more difficult to get up and running with. It's also more difficult to get some peripherals working under Linux, peripherals that people take for granted under Windows. Most of the time you can sit down and read the documentation but some of that is pretty overwhelming too. Personally, I have Mandrake on my firewall box, Redhat 9 on my P4 (really coming of age as a desktop OS) but do most things on my PowerBook (OS X). Getting my Palm PDA to work with RH 8 was incredibly painful. There are a lot of things that people take as a given when it comes to their OS. Not being able to do that with a new OS is frustrating and feels like a step backwards.
Also, at the moment the Linux world, IMHO, seems to be undecided as to whether it wants switchers or wants to maintain a user base of dedicated techies
The courts are involved because the film distributors are creating a monopoly that keeps ticket prices artifically high. You could probably accuse the cinemas of operating a cartel also. easyCinema are prepared to pay the going rate to screen the movie but are going to allow the ticket price to be determined by market forces. However they are prevented from doing so because a monopoly is profiting from the exclusion of market forces. Therefore this is a case for the courts (in the UK and other EU countries) because consumers are impacted.
Take your own advice - RTFA. James Rothnie states that the cost of serving popcorn is expensive. Unless you know something he doesn't about f&b then don't write it off as a "pretty dumb idea". A crucial part of their business model is to minimise their overheads. By not employing people to sell low return products they are reducing staffing costs. This saving is significant. Yes, they still pay for cleaners but they probably require fewer of these. As for you and your mates hopping the gate, contract security guards will probably handle that problem. They are cheaper than having dedicated ushers and quite effective.
Because Escher wasn't constrained by bringing his invention into physical being his design is different from Dyson's, surely? Escher's drawings don't give directions as to how they would be assembled in three-dimensional space - the whole point was that many *look* three-dimensional but can only ever exist two-dimensionally. Therefore there had to be an inventive aspect to Dyson's contribution.
Just before you get too carried away having a go at Dyson .. you should note that Phillips *built* it. While he may have had to do most of the work, it was to fulfill Dyson's idea. It would probably be more fair to say; while Dyson invented it, Phillips created it.
He put up pictures .. so it must be open source. And the arrangement of the magnets spells out 'M$ are bastards', so it's perfect /. material.
.... Microsoft ... can also use their UNIX copyrights to get to Apple. knocking over two birds with one hand here?
How? They don't have UNIX copyrights - they are licensing technology from SCO not buying it
This one's played right into Microsofts hands I'm afraid. The damage they could do are frightening
I know M$ are evil however lets not get carried away. It's just licensing some technology.
It's a coming first thing that some nerds never seem to get over ... :-)
It's a pretty tired joke. You're not even the first one on the thread to make it. Sorry, flamebait is an accurate judgement.