Have you actually seen a debate between a creationist and a evolutionist?
The problem is that these two groups can never get along because they have no common ground. While the evolutionist will base their argument on logic, the creationist will base their argument on faith. Faith is ignored in the logic argument (since it doesn't affect hard facts) and the other way around.
Thus eliminating any chance of agreement.
So the problem is not that these two views cannot coexist (which they can).
However, sticking to the facts is getting old. I can't see why I'm supposed accept always being told I'm immoral simply because I'm atheist while being forbidden to explain all the problems in our society caused solely by religious zealots and justified by religion.
You really can't get the local police to call in to OnStar to screw with these cars. They have been trying to do that for a decade and there is not ONE incident where they have successfully gotten OnStar to interfer with a vehicle without the permission and knowledge of the owner. So STFU about that one you paranoid aluminum jock strap wearing dweebs.
I believe you. But I you had told me ten years ago that the US would be stalking citizens and unlawfully listen on citizens private communications in 2007, I probably wouldn't have believed you. However, policy has a tendency to change. For the worse. And as long as your system is not designed to be technically incompatible with those policy changes, your argument is moot.
Also remember that Nokia is a nordic company and over here buying unlocked phones (along with a separate subscription) is extremely common. Telcos as also required by consumer law to allow lockup of the phones (at a cost).
Personally I don't understand how you put up with being locked in all the time. Subsidized phones are never cheaper in the long run anyway (added fee to the subscription x number of months required + unlock fee > price of unlocked phone).
Exactly, because you probably know a lot of muslims.
I, on the other hand, live in Sweden, and as far as the media (internet including) tells me, American christians are extremists. Murdering abortion clinic workers, pushing neocon propaganda, exclaiming that god hates fags and generally being idiots.
Now I know that isn't true for the general population of American christians. And I would be an idiot for assuming that they are all like that. Which, by the way, is exactly what you are doing.
Steam and Valve (and now 2kgames) thrive on the fact that most of their customers are 14 years old and really don't care. They'll spam the forums at every game release saying that "steam SUCKS!!!" when they can't activate their games for two days but then they'll start playing the their usual concentration rush sets in and they will forget about it.
When BioShock couldn't activate I used TCPView and nmap to figure out why it couldn't activate (because the "failed to contact key server" game instantly). Turns out the port on the IP it was trying to contact wasn't even open. The usual windows services including SMB was tho'.
I see it as a good sign that nowadays the world is upset about humiliating photos.
Yes. That's why nations do it away from home (say, for example, in planes destined for nations with less insight) while the population looks the other way since we're "fighting terrorism".
We haven't gotten anywhere. The only thing that has changed is how money time armies spend on their PR departments. During WW2 the allied forces we're given explicit orders (when recapturing France and other allied nations) not to destroy or damage structures unless they were sure they had to. Which probably led to thousands of casualties and lost tanks due to snipers and tanks hiding in structures that would be destroyed but couldn't.
So this is nothing new. However, obviously the PR machine has paid of since it got you convinced.
As long as the price of war is less than the eventual gain we've gotten nowhere. Economists != humanists.
In Sweden, there exists an opt-in (ISPs) censorship platform which was created as a means to stop Swedish surfers from looking at child porn.
The filter is at the DNS level, translating requests for certain domains into the IP of a web server essentially saying that what you are trying to do is illegal. Also, the process of putting domains on the list is non-transparent and the list itself is secret.
A couple of weeks ago, The Pirate Bay appeared on the list but was removed after a public outcry.
While doing the same comparison as you did, I'm being laughed at (since the Internet cannot be compared with our telephone lines or snail mail, according to Joe Sixpack). But I still think that this behavior puts Sweden among "democracies" as North Korea or China.
Also, looking at kiddie porn is not even illegal in Sweden, storing it on your hard drive is (so, RAM drive or disabled caching). So basically, they are censoring something that arent even illegal, simply because they don't know how to handle this problem.
From a consumer perspective, lock-ins are very, very bad. So not buying (while being a choice) is not acceptable. On the other hand, I'm from Sweden where subsidized phones are an option, but in no way standard (since most of us are clever enough to figure out that an we'll pay for the phone anyway after N months while at the time being trapped and forced to pay the ransom money to get our phone to work with another network). My guess is that the iPhone will NOT be tied to a network in Europe, since we are to vigilant to cope with something like that as consumers.
Fact is, this is probably the thing that could turn most fanbois in to something more of a clever consumer. Or at least I hope so. The iTunes lock-in with the iPod wasn't so bad. iTunes is available on at least two of the major platforms and workarounds could be found in the wild for the rest of them pretty quickly. The iPhone on the other hand proves that (surprise!) Apple is in this for the money. Their money. And your's, if you give it to them.
Your speach about having a choice is idiotic, because people want the iPhone. You have a lot of choices in your life, but you will sacrifice some principles simply because you want to lead an exciting life as well. The fact is that you can vote with your dollars, but noone will care because the stupid mass is always larger than the smart one.
Anyway, I'm rambling like the drunk viking I am. And I can tell that WE discovered America first... so.. you know.. it should be called Viking States of America... yeah... *blurb*
On the other hand, you are counted as an expert in this area which means that you are much less likely to care about brands. My friends in the fashion industry doesn't care about brands, they know what looks good and they don't need brands for reassurance.
You have the competence to judge what is a good search result and what isn't. Most average Joes and Janes does not have that competence, and will - when unsure - go for the brands they can recognize.
The supposedly realistic world the game takes place in is a complete fictional fabrication.
Well, I think Jack has made it clear that he lives in his own fictional fabrication of a universe as well, so there might be something to it after all!
I met a girl in a bar once (a long time ago), we got along extremely well. It turned out she worked with marketing at some dotcom business. She gave me her phone number before she left, but I realized when I woke up the next morning that there was something strange about her number. Turns out she was too drunk and gave me her UIN instead of her phone number without thinking about it.
I don't see anything wrong with this. If you don't like it, you should have immigrated into a different country.
I think you would change your mind when you need to flee from your homeland into the only land that would take you (lets say, Iran). In which your wife perhaps would be required by local customs to walk five feet behind you wearing a burqa. And you both converting to Islam.
Most people have no choice where to go. France accepts more immigrants than most other european countries - many people can't choose where they end up. Cultural diversity is a good thing. Do you think france has looked like this forever? That the original immigrants wearing berets, smoking cigarettes and eating baguettes on the long walk from africa?
We all hate DRM and copy-protection (because it limits our use of something we've paid for) but we still like blu-ray because it allows us to watch stuf in high-res.
As long as the copy protection is out of the way, I'll happily purchase a player and some hi-def movies.
During the acquisition process I felt like I was being strongarmed by the Other Printer Company and since I couldn't give a good reason not to use their hardware I have to use it. If I'd have had a week instead of a day to process the procurement I probably could have.
I have learned that I need to fine-tune my hardware requirements to keep it from happening again - but manufacturers can and will sue the government for buying from somebody else.
Uhm. Yes. And that's because you are spending somebody elses money (namely, the taxpayers money) which is why there are rules for buying from the lowest bidder as long as they meet the requirements.
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I believe that you are wrong. According to that faith there's really nothing you can say to make me change my mind. It is faith after all...
Have you actually seen a debate between a creationist and a evolutionist?
The problem is that these two groups can never get along because they have no common ground. While the evolutionist will base their argument on logic, the creationist will base their argument on faith. Faith is ignored in the logic argument (since it doesn't affect hard facts) and the other way around.
Thus eliminating any chance of agreement.
So the problem is not that these two views cannot coexist (which they can).
However, sticking to the facts is getting old. I can't see why I'm supposed accept always being told I'm immoral simply because I'm atheist while being forbidden to explain all the problems in our society caused solely by religious zealots and justified by religion.
...and, when I'm out hiking, call up a satellite photograph of the area, which provides far more information than a standard GPS navigation unit.
:)
You have reception when.. hiking.
Perhaps you should try "hiking" outside your parents yard next time? You know.. for real
You really can't get the local police to call in to OnStar to screw with these cars. They have been trying to do that for a decade and there is not ONE incident where they have successfully gotten OnStar to interfer with a vehicle without the permission and knowledge of the owner. So STFU about that one you paranoid aluminum jock strap wearing dweebs.
I believe you. But I you had told me ten years ago that the US would be stalking citizens and unlawfully listen on citizens private communications in 2007, I probably wouldn't have believed you. However, policy has a tendency to change. For the worse. And as long as your system is not designed to be technically incompatible with those policy changes, your argument is moot.
This is the No Fact Zone. You must be new here.
Also remember that Nokia is a nordic company and over here buying unlocked phones (along with a separate subscription) is extremely common. Telcos as also required by consumer law to allow lockup of the phones (at a cost).
Personally I don't understand how you put up with being locked in all the time. Subsidized phones are never cheaper in the long run anyway (added fee to the subscription x number of months required + unlock fee > price of unlocked phone).
I don't see them taking over anything unless they have arms/legs/means of replication.
Most dictators came to power by simply speaking and having other people to the dirty stuff for them.
Exactly, because you probably know a lot of muslims.
I, on the other hand, live in Sweden, and as far as the media (internet including) tells me, American christians are extremists. Murdering abortion clinic workers, pushing neocon propaganda, exclaiming that god hates fags and generally being idiots.
Now I know that isn't true for the general population of American christians. And I would be an idiot for assuming that they are all like that. Which, by the way, is exactly what you are doing.
Steam and Valve (and now 2kgames) thrive on the fact that most of their customers are 14 years old and really don't care. They'll spam the forums at every game release saying that "steam SUCKS!!!" when they can't activate their games for two days but then they'll start playing the their usual concentration rush sets in and they will forget about it.
When BioShock couldn't activate I used TCPView and nmap to figure out why it couldn't activate (because the "failed to contact key server" game instantly). Turns out the port on the IP it was trying to contact wasn't even open. The usual windows services including SMB was tho'.
I fail to see how the average person, as usual, being lax about their security is in any way Google's fault.
Maybe because you can simply tie the session to the client IP adress and verify it during each request, which puts an end to the hijacking.
I see it as a good sign that nowadays the world is upset about humiliating photos.
Yes. That's why nations do it away from home (say, for example, in planes destined for nations with less insight) while the population looks the other way since we're "fighting terrorism".
We haven't gotten anywhere. The only thing that has changed is how money time armies spend on their PR departments. During WW2 the allied forces we're given explicit orders (when recapturing France and other allied nations) not to destroy or damage structures unless they were sure they had to. Which probably led to thousands of casualties and lost tanks due to snipers and tanks hiding in structures that would be destroyed but couldn't.
So this is nothing new. However, obviously the PR machine has paid of since it got you convinced.
As long as the price of war is less than the eventual gain we've gotten nowhere. Economists != humanists.
In Sweden, there exists an opt-in (ISPs) censorship platform which was created as a means to stop Swedish surfers from looking at child porn.
The filter is at the DNS level, translating requests for certain domains into the IP of a web server essentially saying that what you are trying to do is illegal. Also, the process of putting domains on the list is non-transparent and the list itself is secret.
A couple of weeks ago, The Pirate Bay appeared on the list but was removed after a public outcry.
While doing the same comparison as you did, I'm being laughed at (since the Internet cannot be compared with our telephone lines or snail mail, according to Joe Sixpack). But I still think that this behavior puts Sweden among "democracies" as North Korea or China.
Also, looking at kiddie porn is not even illegal in Sweden, storing it on your hard drive is (so, RAM drive or disabled caching). So basically, they are censoring something that arent even illegal, simply because they don't know how to handle this problem.
Actually, you're wrong. And very right.
From a consumer perspective, lock-ins are very, very bad. So not buying (while being a choice) is not acceptable. On the other hand, I'm from Sweden where subsidized phones are an option, but in no way standard (since most of us are clever enough to figure out that an we'll pay for the phone anyway after N months while at the time being trapped and forced to pay the ransom money to get our phone to work with another network). My guess is that the iPhone will NOT be tied to a network in Europe, since we are to vigilant to cope with something like that as consumers.
Fact is, this is probably the thing that could turn most fanbois in to something more of a clever consumer. Or at least I hope so. The iTunes lock-in with the iPod wasn't so bad. iTunes is available on at least two of the major platforms and workarounds could be found in the wild for the rest of them pretty quickly. The iPhone on the other hand proves that (surprise!) Apple is in this for the money. Their money. And your's, if you give it to them.
Your speach about having a choice is idiotic, because people want the iPhone. You have a lot of choices in your life, but you will sacrifice some principles simply because you want to lead an exciting life as well. The fact is that you can vote with your dollars, but noone will care because the stupid mass is always larger than the smart one.
Anyway, I'm rambling like the drunk viking I am. And I can tell that WE discovered America first... so.. you know.. it should be called Viking States of America... yeah... *blurb*
On the other hand, you are counted as an expert in this area which means that you are much less likely to care about brands. My friends in the fashion industry doesn't care about brands, they know what looks good and they don't need brands for reassurance.
You have the competence to judge what is a good search result and what isn't. Most average Joes and Janes does not have that competence, and will - when unsure - go for the brands they can recognize.
But I'll set my sights a little higher, so that one day, perhaps, we can be something more.
Which is exactly the same strive we share with most animals (although they wouldn't phrase it like that, nor would we 20.000 years ago).
But if were ever to be satisfied with our current conditions, we would stop adapting and die out.
50,000 times the price of the average CD/DVD on sale = $758,000
The supposedly realistic world the game takes place in is a complete fictional fabrication.
Well, I think Jack has made it clear that he lives in his own fictional fabrication of a universe as well, so there might be something to it after all!
I met a girl in a bar once (a long time ago), we got along extremely well. It turned out she worked with marketing at some dotcom business. She gave me her phone number before she left, but I realized when I woke up the next morning that there was something strange about her number. Turns out she was too drunk and gave me her UIN instead of her phone number without thinking about it.
We met a couple of times after that.
I don't see anything wrong with this. If you don't like it, you should have immigrated into a different country.
I think you would change your mind when you need to flee from your homeland into the only land that would take you (lets say, Iran). In which your wife perhaps would be required by local customs to walk five feet behind you wearing a burqa. And you both converting to Islam.
Most people have no choice where to go. France accepts more immigrants than most other european countries - many people can't choose where they end up. Cultural diversity is a good thing. Do you think france has looked like this forever? That the original immigrants wearing berets, smoking cigarettes and eating baguettes on the long walk from africa?
Ikea may have started in Finland
:)
Or the MAY have started in Sweden. And I doubt they enrich anyone, IKEAs founder is rich simply because he is cheap. Extremely cheap. And a faschist.
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I don't really know if it's really that funny.
We all hate DRM and copy-protection (because it limits our use of something we've paid for) but we still like blu-ray because it allows us to watch stuf in high-res.
As long as the copy protection is out of the way, I'll happily purchase a player and some hi-def movies.
That's just plain utilitarism and not everyone will agree with you. It's "common sense" as long as you are not the one slave :)
For more info in general (at least on USA caving), check out the website of the National Speleological Society
:)
Ah, you mean the National Spelunking Society?
During the acquisition process I felt like I was being strongarmed by the Other Printer Company and since I couldn't give a good reason not to use their hardware I have to use it. If I'd have had a week instead of a day to process the procurement I probably could have.
I have learned that I need to fine-tune my hardware requirements to keep it from happening again - but manufacturers can and will sue the government for buying from somebody else.
Uhm. Yes. And that's because you are spending somebody elses money (namely, the taxpayers money) which is why there are rules for buying from the lowest bidder as long as they meet the requirements.