32 bit for home computers would have been fine for another 2 or even 5 years And I think Apple agrees with you 100%. That's why you only see the G5 in their top end "professional" computers. The iMac and eMac are still G4/32bit.
But it is an interesting argument you make: Apple is pushing performance too hard and too early. Ahh how far we've come.
Hypertransport is not an AMD "originated technology". There was a working group formed to study and develop hypertransport and AMD and Apple were both charter members.
If you're in manufacturing, certainly there must be something that gets porn in to something else?:)
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Even OS 7 wasn't that jarring a change. Which in and of itself is a testament to the skill of Apple's coders. Up until System 6.x, the operating system was written in Pascal. System7 was an almost complete re-write of the OS in C.
This is a direct quote from the "Q&A" section of the telemarking.donotcall.gov site:
"Data for up to five area codes will be available for free. Beyond that, there is an annual fee of $25 per area code of data, with a maximum annual fee of $7,375 for the entire U.S. database."
If you're a small company calling a few low-population states, or a single larger metro area, you will not see any costs.
My thought is that $7,375 per year is not a lot of money. If you have enough personnel/equipment that you can call numbers nation-wide, then that fee will be dwarfed by your monthly long distance and payroll costs.
To get all the area codes for California, for example, would cost $525 (5 free, 21 @ $25 each)
Oh, look! The 9th circuit has overturned another lower court ruling. WHY IS THIS NEWS??? The 3 judge panels of the 9th circuit overturn just about everything that makes it to that court. It seems that these actions are held up about as often as they are overturned by the next higher court (or the full sitting of the 9th circuit).
Seriously, I think the 9th circuit would overturn a ruling that stated simply "Water is wet."
Personally I think the cable companies should have control over their private wiring. If any other company wants to complete, let them run their own damned cable. If I want to sell a product, should I be able to force Target to carry it in the name of commerce or competition? Why should it be any different for communications lines. My opinion has one caveat: The cable company's lines in question must be truly private; no public money must have been spent (loaned, okay) to install the infrastructure.
Of course their disks aren't 'free'. You must pay for "shipping and handling" before they will send them. Once you do get the disks, you must send one back to them at your own charge. Presumably if you fail to do this you will be billed for all the CDs.
Other than the flashy lights on the WOPR, the omni-present computer voice without a speaker, and the ever popular monitors that project their images on the the actor's faces, what was so wrong about WarGames?
If you want to talk about clueless movies lets talk about "Hackers", and "The Net". Quite possibly the two most painful depictions of computer technology ever put on celluloid.
I don't know about the accounting portion, but it was corruption in general, and greed specifically that caused the Soviet system to fail. Communism and Socialism in an of themselves are wonderful economic models, they just require a form of government that isn't inherently greedy and/or corrupt. Greed will eventually be the undoing of the U.S. government, just as it has been the undoing of every major world power for all of human history.
Yea, I think this comment might be more appropriate today:
Further, he says, ordinary citizens need to understand science and technology better to make informed choices about the voting booth.
If the "common" people don't wake up and start understanding what voting is starting to become (totally closed, no paper trail, and insecure), then these systems will prevail and votes will be even more easily purchased than they are today.
Yes, GNU/Linux could theoretically do this. But we're mostly missing/off the point of the article:
The article is talking about Linux boot times. As they mention, Linux boots in 5 seconds on most cases (embedded or on your system) from the boot loader to kernel initialization is quite fast. The kernel (Linux) then starts loading application code (network services, security daemons, x windows, etc).
To your question: Parallelizing services initialization can dramatically improve time to log on screen (LOS). Apple did this around OS X 10.2 IIRC (went from sequential to concurrent service loading) and cut down the time to LOS dramatically.
You can probably (for example) load your network stack and local modular drivers at the same time. Then you can start all the services that depend on those: NTP, name server and mount any remote file systems. After that, most dependencies should be handled and the rest (smtp, http, ftp, telnet , ssh, etc) could all be started in the background while the system started in to multi-user mode and perhaps loaded X.
In an ideal world all those startups would be completed before any LOS is presented, but the LOS should probaly be delayed until the system has completed the load-in process.
Ohh... and the biggie, I'd forgotten about the "big" gotcha with the Radeon 7000 PCI in the beige PowerMac: If you install ROM version 2.0.8 on the Radeon it will not properly handle dual monitors on the G3. I don't recall which port refuses to work, but I think it's the DVI when you have VGA adapter on it.
I decided that the enhancements that 208 brought were worth putting my secondary display on the internal video. As I mentioned in my first reply, multiple monitors when you use the VGA port and the S-Video port works.
I keep wondering: Apple (well, Steve) hates leaks. He probably fumes over these rumor sites that get leaks from the developer releases of the OS. I've often wondered if Apple might trick the leakers in to giving away their identies.
AFAIK the developer releases are only available (officially) by logging in to your developer account and downloading the disk images. Perhaps Apple will ship them also, but I just don't know.
Isn't it possible for Apple to give a slightly different version of the OS to subsets of the developer base? The alterations don't need to be too big really: shifting the window operation buttons a few pixels, changing some text in a few common dialogs/windows, etc. After a few times of doing this and watching which "special" changes are leaked, Apple could terminate the contracts with the leakers.
Could it be that this small logo change is one of those inconsequential changes thay would be used for such identification?
You (like many) are confusing the kernel "Linux" with an Operating System and applications. If there's a network tool written that runs under Linux, that means that it probably runs under GNU and BSD libraries, the kernel is mostly irrelevant. Other than user-space tools that enable/control kernel tasks (like IPTables and qdisc) I'm hard pressed to think of any network tools that are tied to the Linux kernel and not general *nix based sysstem.
Even for those tools that call kernel routines directly, they can either be patched to call the FreeBSD versions, or (as of Panther) Dawin will emulate them.
Updatera and new software install is just simply easier all around on the Mac than under any Linux based OS I've ever used.
Ahh... but you miss the point. the iTMS may very well be a loss leader. How many iPods have they sold as a result of the music store? Hoe many Mac's have they sold? How many Wintel only consumers have they enticed in to the local Apple Retail Store?
If the iTMS itself even only manages to break even, it will probably still be a major money maker for Apple.
Semantic point: You can't have a democratic republic. They are two similar but mutually exclusive forms of government. Democracy: Every person has one vote and equal standing in law making. True democracy borders on anarchy. Republic: Is a representative democracy. The people elect a subset of the population to make all the decisions/laws. Each citizen has one vote, but only to elect representatives and for special ballot questions.
The United States of America is a Republic, not a Democracy.
but we know beyond any reasonable doubt that emission of greenhouse gases increases global temperatures. Do we really, or have enough people believing that made it a self fulfilling prophecy?
There is only one Earth at our disposal. We only have known accurate climatalogical data for a few hundred years, beyond that gets in to proxy data, guesswork and extrapolation. All the models that climatologists and meteorologists run are based on assumptions and limited variables. The original question I asked was what about all the variables that people seem to either not think of, or toss out as unreasonable or unrealistic. I think the determination about GhG is based on incomplete data.
But the "truth" you are concerned with is not relevant to the question of climate change. The truth I am concerned with (in this case) is what is causing the observed rise in average global temperatures. Again, I posed at least four plausible causes. Sun activity, core activity, warmer surrounding space, and other human based changes than GhG. I haven't seen anyone running "simulations" taking these things in to account. They tend to treat the atmosphere as a closed system, ignoring inputs from geothermal and extraterestrial origins.
Given the fossil record of ice age / thaw that has occured in the past I can't even begin to discount that we are just approaching the high point of a natural cycle and that no matter what we do the planet will get hotter for a few years, then start to cool again.
I was originally using the two heads on the 7000 to run both displays. It's nice that I get the high performance on both screens that way. The trouble seemed to come in when I was playing games, specifically games that don't blank the unused screens to black and/or turn them off. In any case, some of my games seemed to slow down in that configuration. I think it was because of the desktop taking a few megs of vram for the desktop picture and the extra clock cycles to maintain the display. The max res I can get on the internal display is 1280x1024, and I run the other display from the 7000 at 1600x1200. I miss the extra pixels on the second display.
As you said there is the whole "OS-X doesn't see the displays until the OS gets near the login screen and loads the video drivers for the card" thing. Sitting at black screens for so long makes me jumpy.
The on-board video chip is dog slow compared to the Radeon 7000. That's why I set the menu bar screen to be on the 7000. I only use the built-in display for secondary windows and things that dont' get moved/resized/scrolled a whole lot. Most games default to the menu bar display to run, some ask you which one to use.
Finally, I regularly attach a TV to the Radeon's second port for video previewing from Final Cut. It's much simpler if I don't have to disable one of my displays to do that. Asn yes, all three displays are active at one time.
What I'd really like to do is get two large IDE HDs and get rid of my SCSI card for the boot disk and install a second 7000. Then I'd be able to connect up 5 displays at once.
I think U.S. fossile fule prices are entirely too low and I advocate government taxation to increase the average price of unleaded gasoline to about $5.00/gal I don't own an SUV. I drive a car that averages 30MPG, and a motorcycle that averages about 50MPG.
THe biggest thing that should be causing us to chage our lifesyle is population growth. There should be a world-wide moretoreum on net growth for the next 20 years. You are not allowed to produce more than two offspring.
Actually I can. I have no children and plan to have none. I'm letting the less intelligent breeders take over. Science and socialism have completely negated the laws of natural selection, we've(my wife and I) chosen to speed up the new process.
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32 bit for home computers would have been fine for another 2 or even 5 years
And I think Apple agrees with you 100%. That's why you only see the G5 in their top end "professional" computers. The iMac and eMac are still G4/32bit.
But it is an interesting argument you make: Apple is pushing performance too hard and too early.
Ahh how far we've come.
Hypertransport is not an AMD "originated technology". There was a working group formed to study and develop hypertransport and AMD and Apple were both charter members.
If you're in manufacturing, certainly there must be something that gets porn in to something else? :)
Even OS 7 wasn't that jarring a change.
Which in and of itself is a testament to the skill of Apple's coders. Up until System 6.x, the operating system was written in Pascal. System7 was an almost complete re-write of the OS in C.
This is a direct quote from the "Q&A" section of the telemarking.donotcall.gov site:
"Data for up to five area codes will be available for free. Beyond that, there is an annual fee of $25 per area code of data, with a maximum annual fee of $7,375 for the entire U.S. database."
If you're a small company calling a few low-population states, or a single larger metro area, you will not see any costs.
My thought is that $7,375 per year is not a lot of money. If you have enough personnel/equipment that you can call numbers nation-wide, then that fee will be dwarfed by your monthly long distance and payroll costs.
To get all the area codes for California, for example, would cost $525 (5 free, 21 @ $25 each)
Oh, look!
The 9th circuit has overturned another lower court ruling. WHY IS THIS NEWS???
The 3 judge panels of the 9th circuit overturn just about everything that makes it to that court. It seems that these actions are held up about as often as they are overturned by the next higher court (or the full sitting of the 9th circuit).
Seriously, I think the 9th circuit would overturn a ruling that stated simply "Water is wet."
Personally I think the cable companies should have control over their private wiring. If any other company wants to complete, let them run their own damned cable.
If I want to sell a product, should I be able to force Target to carry it in the name of commerce or competition? Why should it be any different for communications lines.
My opinion has one caveat: The cable company's lines in question must be truly private; no public money must have been spent (loaned, okay) to install the infrastructure.
Of course their disks aren't 'free'.
You must pay for "shipping and handling" before they will send them. Once you do get the disks, you must send one back to them at your own charge.
Presumably if you fail to do this you will be billed for all the CDs.
Other than the flashy lights on the WOPR, the omni-present computer voice without a speaker, and the ever popular monitors that project their images on the the actor's faces, what was so wrong about WarGames?
If you want to talk about clueless movies lets talk about "Hackers", and "The Net". Quite possibly the two most painful depictions of computer technology ever put on celluloid.
I don't know about the accounting portion, but it was corruption in general, and greed specifically that caused the Soviet system to fail. Communism and Socialism in an of themselves are wonderful economic models, they just require a form of government that isn't inherently greedy and/or corrupt.
Greed will eventually be the undoing of the U.S. government, just as it has been the undoing of every major world power for all of human history.
Unless of course you live in Arizona. The MAXIMUM unemployment payment is $205 per week. In my case I went from making about $1200 per week to $205.
Yea, I think this comment might be more appropriate today:
Further, he says, ordinary citizens need to understand science and technology better to make informed choices about the voting booth.
If the "common" people don't wake up and start understanding what voting is starting to become (totally closed, no paper trail, and insecure), then these systems will prevail and votes will be even more easily purchased than they are today.
Yes, GNU/Linux could theoretically do this. But we're mostly missing/off the point of the article:
The article is talking about Linux boot times. As they mention, Linux boots in 5 seconds on most cases (embedded or on your system) from the boot loader to kernel initialization is quite fast.
The kernel (Linux) then starts loading application code (network services, security daemons, x windows, etc).
To your question: Parallelizing services initialization can dramatically improve time to log on screen (LOS). Apple did this around OS X 10.2 IIRC (went from sequential to concurrent service loading) and cut down the time to LOS dramatically.
You can probably (for example) load your network stack and local modular drivers at the same time. Then you can start all the services that depend on those: NTP, name server and mount any remote file systems. After that, most dependencies should be handled and the rest (smtp, http, ftp, telnet , ssh, etc) could all be started in the background while the system started in to multi-user mode and perhaps loaded X.
In an ideal world all those startups would be completed before any LOS is presented, but the LOS should probaly be delayed until the system has completed the load-in process.
You haven't MUDed until you've played on the actual console!
Ohh... and the biggie, I'd forgotten about the "big" gotcha with the Radeon 7000 PCI in the beige PowerMac:
If you install ROM version 2.0.8 on the Radeon it will not properly handle dual monitors on the G3. I don't recall which port refuses to work, but I think it's the DVI when you have VGA adapter on it.
I decided that the enhancements that 208 brought were worth putting my secondary display on the internal video.
As I mentioned in my first reply, multiple monitors when you use the VGA port and the S-Video port works.
I keep wondering:
Apple (well, Steve) hates leaks. He probably fumes over these rumor sites that get leaks from the developer releases of the OS. I've often wondered if Apple might trick the leakers in to giving away their identies.
AFAIK the developer releases are only available (officially) by logging in to your developer account and downloading the disk images. Perhaps Apple will ship them also, but I just don't know.
Isn't it possible for Apple to give a slightly different version of the OS to subsets of the developer base? The alterations don't need to be too big really: shifting the window operation buttons a few pixels, changing some text in a few common dialogs/windows, etc. After a few times of doing this and watching which "special" changes are leaked, Apple could terminate the contracts with the leakers.
Could it be that this small logo change is one of those inconsequential changes thay would be used for such identification?
I think that all those systems will be net booted and that maintenence will be simply patching the OS on the boot server as Apple relases updates.
Between netboot and having users that can't modify system resources, I don't see how any system would be corrupted or would become untidy over time.
You (like many) are confusing the kernel "Linux" with an Operating System and applications. If there's a network tool written that runs under Linux, that means that it probably runs under GNU and BSD libraries, the kernel is mostly irrelevant. Other than user-space tools that enable/control kernel tasks (like IPTables and qdisc) I'm hard pressed to think of any network tools that are tied to the Linux kernel and not general *nix based sysstem.
Even for those tools that call kernel routines directly, they can either be patched to call the FreeBSD versions, or (as of Panther) Dawin will emulate them.
Updatera and new software install is just simply easier all around on the Mac than under any Linux based OS I've ever used.
Apple may be left with around $3 million.
Ahh... but you miss the point. the iTMS may very well be a loss leader. How many iPods have they sold as a result of the music store? Hoe many Mac's have they sold? How many Wintel only consumers have they enticed in to the local Apple Retail Store?
If the iTMS itself even only manages to break even, it will probably still be a major money maker for Apple.
Semantic point: You can't have a democratic republic. They are two similar but mutually exclusive forms of government.
Democracy: Every person has one vote and equal standing in law making. True democracy borders on anarchy.
Republic: Is a representative democracy. The people elect a subset of the population to make all the decisions/laws. Each citizen has one vote, but only to elect representatives and for special ballot questions.
The United States of America is a Republic, not a Democracy.
I'd steer clear of it as a replacement for the HP simply because that TI doesn't graph.
e /36xsguideus.html
As for your missing manual, it;s on-line. Five clicks in to the TI web site i find:
http://education.ti.com/us/product/tech/36xs/guid
but we know beyond any reasonable doubt that emission of greenhouse gases increases global temperatures.
Do we really, or have enough people believing that made it a self fulfilling prophecy?
There is only one Earth at our disposal. We only have known accurate climatalogical data for a few hundred years, beyond that gets in to proxy data, guesswork and extrapolation. All the models that climatologists and meteorologists run are based on assumptions and limited variables. The original question I asked was what about all the variables that people seem to either not think of, or toss out as unreasonable or unrealistic. I think the determination about GhG is based on incomplete data.
But the "truth" you are concerned with is not relevant to the question of climate change.
The truth I am concerned with (in this case) is what is causing the observed rise in average global temperatures.
Again, I posed at least four plausible causes. Sun activity, core activity, warmer surrounding space, and other human based changes than GhG. I haven't seen anyone running "simulations" taking these things in to account. They tend to treat the atmosphere as a closed system, ignoring inputs from geothermal and extraterestrial origins.
Given the fossil record of ice age / thaw that has occured in the past I can't even begin to discount that we are just approaching the high point of a natural cycle and that no matter what we do the planet will get hotter for a few years, then start to cool again.
I was originally using the two heads on the 7000 to run both displays. It's nice that I get the high performance on both screens that way.
The trouble seemed to come in when I was playing games, specifically games that don't blank the unused screens to black and/or turn them off. In any case, some of my games seemed to slow down in that configuration. I think it was because of the desktop taking a few megs of vram for the desktop picture and the extra clock cycles to maintain the display. The max res I can get on the internal display is 1280x1024, and I run the other display from the 7000 at 1600x1200. I miss the extra pixels on the second display.
As you said there is the whole "OS-X doesn't see the displays until the OS gets near the login screen and loads the video drivers for the card" thing. Sitting at black screens for so long makes me jumpy.
The on-board video chip is dog slow compared to the Radeon 7000. That's why I set the menu bar screen to be on the 7000. I only use the built-in display for secondary windows and things that dont' get moved/resized/scrolled a whole lot. Most games default to the menu bar display to run, some ask you which one to use.
Finally, I regularly attach a TV to the Radeon's second port for video previewing from Final Cut. It's much simpler if I don't have to disable one of my displays to do that. Asn yes, all three displays are active at one time.
What I'd really like to do is get two large IDE HDs and get rid of my SCSI card for the boot disk and install a second 7000. Then I'd be able to connect up 5 displays at once.
I think U.S. fossile fule prices are entirely too low and I advocate government taxation to increase the average price of unleaded gasoline to about $5.00/gal
I don't own an SUV. I drive a car that averages 30MPG, and a motorcycle that averages about 50MPG.
THe biggest thing that should be causing us to chage our lifesyle is population growth. There should be a world-wide moretoreum on net growth for the next 20 years. You are not allowed to produce more than two offspring.
Actually I can. I have no children and plan to have none. I'm letting the less intelligent breeders take over. Science and socialism have completely negated the laws of natural selection, we've(my wife and I) chosen to speed up the new process.