The patents referenced do have 2000, 2001 filed dates. But those patents are continuations of patents that go back to 1995 that were never issued. It's a convoluted process, but it's possible to go in an make alterations or additions to patents after filing, but before they are issued.
A prior art claim may have to go back earlier than the 1995 file date.
In a patent, the abstract section doesn't mean much, it's the claims that matter. In patent 6,275,213 claim 35 is one that is pretty specific to a "haptic interface" as opposed to a "rumble pack". It essentially talks about producing feedback when the cursor touches another graphic object on the screen.
I have one of the mice that Logitch used to sell that incoporates technology from Immersive. It's much more than something that shakes when you shoot a gun. As you move across the screen you can feel scroll bars, buttons. Dragging a window it feels like the window has mass compared to just moving the mouse across the table.
If you have 1000s of messages coming to a person computer it doesn't mean squat what your filtering scheme is. Even if you don't "see" these messages, you machine is still going to have to read messages to evaluate them, or at the least download the headers (though header analysis isn't going to get you 100% filtered spam )
Accepting email from 1000's of possible email addresess @ your domain when you know they're all bogus is just asking for punishment.
Catch all will kill your inbox. I had a catch all from 1996-2002. All of a sudden, around Labor Day 2002 I started getting up to 3000 spams a day. The vast majority were to bogus addresses. Even with local spam filtering my email client was spending near 100% of the time downloading mail.
I eventually killed the catch all, resulting in losing email from some places I'd given unique email addresses to. Also went with a 3rd party spam filter ( spamcop.net ) so most spam never makes it to my desktop at all, getting filtered upstream.
Recently I got a Gmail account. Just for grins I thought I'd test their spam filtering capabilities before using it for anything "real". I reactivated my catch all, forwarding it to my Gmail account. In the last 3 weeks my Gmail spam folder has accumulated 163MB of spam, or almost 27,000 individual messages. Gmail is only catching 30-50 percent of it, I've had to manually tag the remainder.
So while all my catch all addresses bounced these past two years the flow has reduced from 3k a day to about 1k a day.
The only reason to have a catch all is if you want lots of untargeted spam. I don't know how these yahoos do their billing, but if any of them base it on what bounces vs. what's read, then having an open address might just mean they'll make more money because of you.
I don't know the tax rates in Canada, so I have no quarrel with your figures. But even without knowing the rates I can tell your figures are too low.
Income tax is not the only tax. In Canada, as here in the US, after you're taxed on your income you get taxed again almost every time you spend your money.
Sales Tax Alcohol Tax Tobacco Tax Gasoline Tax
Again I don't know about Canada, but here in the US we can't get a bill in the mail without a sizeable number of taxes and "gov't mandated fees" ( same as tax as far as I'm concerned ). A basic phone bill has a large percentage of separately listed fees that are mandated.
So the figures are all well and good, but leaving out all the fees paid post-tax is a pretty good omission.
Just on the gas tax, if you earned $10.00, paid 18% you'd net $8.20. When gas is $2.00 a gallon you can buy 4 even gallons. In CA the combined State and Federal gas taxes are about $.46 a gallon. For the 4 gallons purchased you'd pay $1.86 in taxes. So, on this particular $10 you'd pay $3.66 in taxes, 36.6% being a little bit different than the 18% income tax.
Not all taxes are as high as those on gas, alcohol, tobacco and other "luxuries", but any comparison of taxes for a region has to include the taxes on the post-tax income to be accurate
Total area is only part of it. No need ( or desire ) to be compatible with any standard outside of Japan helps a lot. The U.K. could do similar things, but as people move often between the U.K. and Europe, a scheme like that would likely fail in lieu of one that would work seamlessly between areas.
This same reasoning also applied to things like car navigation systems. Mapping all of Japan was of course easier than all of the US. Someone could have come up with a system that only worked in California, but as drivers too frequently go out of CA, it wouldn't fare well. Not to many people driving out of Japan. The US isn't even close to the car navigation penetration that Japan had 15 years ago.
Hawaii might be comparable to Japan, but like England and Europe, too many people going back and forth that expect to have their wireless devices work seamlessly.
So geography plays a big part of Japan's ease in integrating new wireless technology, but it's that combined with their culture that makes it work.
I like the diagnonal idea, and Florida is The Sunshine State. Start with a dome in Miami for the sun, end with the ping pong ball in Fairbanks.
National Geographic Traveler just started a series of articles from a guy driving that distance, heading south. He could have visited the various planets along the way.
Regardless of the OS, applications, security features, if your parents aren't very local, try to get them a laptop. Even if they use a monitor, mouse, keyboard and such, it's much easier working on it at home with more resources than in their den.
My Mom's in Hawaii, I'm in AZ. FedEx ground is cheap enough that if it can't be fixed in a 10 minute phone call I'll have her send it to me, get it spruced up, send it back. When she was out for Christmas, she brought it with and I updated things then also.
Next time, if we still go the Windows route, I'd put on XP Pro just for the remote access feature.
OnStar doesn't make a big deal of it, but while they emphasis the satellite aspect, the communications is pure cellular. If there's no cell coverage, you're SOL as far as OnStar is concerned. Granted, they use the older analog AMPS network which has better coverage than the newer PCS ones, but it still has limits on where it works.
So if you're lost, OnStar will help if you can call them. If there's no cell coverage, you'd be better off if that GPS wasn't a black box in the trunk but had some sort of display and map database.
In conventional digital cameras it's the color that's interpolated, not the brightness. If you took a B&W picture, you'd have a 6MP image.
So yes, there is interpolation going on, but it's for 2/3s of the colors, and not brightness.
Short version: Resolution is what the CCD has for pixels. Color fidelity is improved if you have separate ones for each color, or separate layers for each color like the Foveon chip does.
According to the linked article the spam was sent from unsuspecting user's hacked computers:
Meehan?s office charges that from about November 2001 to December 2002, Carlson, ?a disgruntled Phillies fan,? hacked into computers of unsuspecting users and from those computers launched spam e-mail attacks with long messages voicing his complaints about the Phillies management.
They are available in San Jose area Ritz stores. Called a friend there, and remembering how iOpeners changed when hacked, he went immediately to buy 4. Two for each of us, one to use, one to open.
Not really much of a price bump. There are two product lines for the Palm watch: Fossil and Abacus. The plastic "sport" version of the Abacus brand is only $169.
I've pre-ordered that one. I'll probably try the wrist thing for a while, but I can see popping off the band and going for a pocket watch kind of effect. Shopping lists and other utilities that I use on the Palm now, but don't always take advantage of when I dont' want to carry around.
While it's a big watch, it's much more pocketable than the current full size Palms, but with the same 160x160 screen
If Netflix embarks on an even semi-intelligent ad campaign, I think they have a fighting chance.
Semi-intelligent? Would that be something smarter than paying the penis enlarger type spammers to flood us with offers again? That's the savy customers they signed up, the ones who replied to those emails?
I signed up for Walmart's service today, just because they aren't Netflix. They boosted their IPO with a spam campaign, so I just want to see them whither and go away.
I agree, HDD, not optical, not solid state...yet
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I've figured the reason you don't see a HDD in a DV camcorder now is that they want to sell tapes. A 60GB laptop drive would take less space than the mechanism to drive, read and eject a DV tape, while holding the equivilant of 5 tapes worth of video. With a firewire connection to suck into your computer for editing or writing to your media of choise. Heck, a removable HDD would even work, though in theory you could download from the camcorder directly to a larger desktop drive.
Sony tries with their variations on optical, but I'm convinced that's just to sell media. That's the whole reason they invented the memory stick.
Solid State is just too expensive and/or slow to replace the HDD. If not, laptops would use it now in lieu of the spinning platter.
If the camcorder used a standard laptop drive, in theory it could be upgraded for mor capacity in the future, or even updated with a solid state version if/when they're feasible.
I had a unique address for Netflix as well. That address wasn't spammed, but others I had ( and other's I never had ) were.
The boosted their customer lists with idiots who actually click on Spam messages prior to their IPO.
It's rare that you can actually go after the people who pay the slimy spammers. Then the opportunity presents itself we should take advantage of it.
Netflix paid spammers to advertise. It wasn't a mistake, wasn't by accident. They don't care.
Reason enough to quit and encourage anyone who'll listen to quit. They are in league with the penis enlargers of the world by choice, so let the business deal with the consequences.
The idea that they might lure people into thinking that there low wait times when they first sign up and then swith later seems to fit with the "character" of the company.
I was a netflix customer early on, when you paid per movie and had just a week to watch them. Good service, and living in San Jose right near their headquarters ( the only shiping point at the time ) meant I could sometimes order a movie on the weekend and have it arrive Monday.
Then they paid spammers to increase their "market share". Not "opt-in" list guys, but the ones who sent to anyname@domain.com. I complained, they replied that they only dealt with opt-in spammers. I told them that I'd have remembered if I'd ever created an account with the email address "HowieIsAGayFuck@mydomain.com". They replied that out millions of spams sent, I was the only one who complained. No apology, never mentioned they'd stop dealing with the offending spam flingers.
So after 2 or 3 years with them I did the only thing in my power, I walked. I'd been getting DVDs every month, told all my friends, heck, even was in on a couple customer focus groups at their offices.
Me, I'm hoping blockbuster and Walmart with their new DVD by mail services squash them like a bug. The idea of a company doing well based on vile spam doesnt' sit well with me.
The fact that there's $$ to be made in selling / servicing voting machines will keep us from getting good ones.
It could have already be a done deal.
Use lotto machines, hell maybe even the network that they communicate with.
Use a slight variant of the existing paper tickets as ballots with a mechanism similar to the current punch card system.
When you've marked your ballot, turn it in to be read. You get a receipt that is your decoded marks.
You review the sheet at the polling place, make corrections as necessary. Like the terminals at the grocery stores you have to say "ok" for it to be accepted.
Your corrected receipt is given to you with a serial number on it. That serial number lets you later review what the "system" thinks your vote was on any particular item. If not you complain to the registrar of voters.
This setup would be cheap per voter ( no individual touch screens, just a single terminal per polling place )
Might use existing hardware / network ( take your ballot to the 7-11 to vote?). Heck, if they suspend lotto sales on election day this might be possible. Just send the usual polling place volunteers where the machines are.
Gives the voter feedback at the site to verify what the "machine" thought their marks were, allows them to correct. No strangers examining hanging chads to guess.
Final feedback using the receipt and access to the final tally. If a group thinks they got screwed by the count, all they have to do is compare their receipts to the official tally. It would be like lotto tickets, tied to the recipt number, not to you, so no privacy issues.
This is something that could be worked out in a month by some 1/2 way intelligent people and the people who wrote the lotto machine s/w. But given the usual amount of corruption and lobbying, it's never gonna happen.
It's almost there. What I'd buy,if they'd build it, is a full featured DV camcorder, but with the tape mechanism replaced by a HDD. Standard DV tapes hold 11GB. A readily available 60GB drive would hold 5+ hours of high quality video with CD quality audio. The current HDD's would take up less space than a DV tape and assorted mechanisms.
With firewire you could then extract the video, either temporarily archiving on a larger disk in your PC, or dump to DVD-R's as either MPEG2, or as raw files for editing later.
For the people who complained that there's no need for longer recoding capacity than you batteries last: you're wrong. With non-removable storage you'd want to have the capacity to last until you get to a place where you could dump the contents. A weekend trip might involve several battery changes / recharges before returning to a place where you could empty the camera.
There might be a small "consipiracy" against this sort of camcorder as it would not consume tapes, but then many of the camcorder manufacturers aren't selling blank tapes. Sony likes making things that use odd or new media to get the media sales later, but not all manufacturers are in that position.
One last comment, Hitachi brought out it's MPEG-Cam years ago. It recorded MPEG-1 onto a PCMCIA hard drive that was smaller than many of the CF cards we use today. It was a little more bulky than a point and shoot still camera, but smaller than a compact camcorder. Of course it didn't have the stuff that modern camcorders have today like large zoom, image stabilization or firewire output.
Great, been watching / waiting for them to do this. I've been using Voicestream( T-mobile ) for the last year while Cingular's been dragging their feet with WAP only service up until recently.
Knowing the term "isp.cingular" was what I needed to find more info.
If you're in the US and have Cingular for GSM/GPRS service this probably won't work. Currently Cingular doesn't support GPRS connections to your PC / PDA, only for WAP type things on the phone itself.
T-Mobile will support it though, and people have found they can get unlimited GPRS from Fido.ca out of Candada. With them you can get unlimited GPRS data service for $50 Canadian ( 30-something in $US )
RTFP?
The patents referenced do have 2000, 2001 filed dates. But those patents are continuations of patents that go back to 1995 that were never issued.
It's a convoluted process, but it's possible to go in an make alterations or additions to patents after filing, but before they are issued.
A prior art claim may have to go back earlier than the 1995 file date.
In a patent, the abstract section doesn't mean much, it's the claims that matter. In patent 6,275,213 claim 35 is one that is pretty specific to a "haptic interface" as opposed to a "rumble pack". It essentially talks about producing feedback when the cursor touches another graphic object on the screen.
I have one of the mice that Logitch used to sell that incoporates technology from Immersive. It's much more than something that shakes when you shoot a gun. As you move across the screen you can feel scroll bars, buttons. Dragging a window it feels like the window has mass compared to just moving the mouse across the table.
See exif.org for info.
Robophoto, OziExplorer support tagging the images from live GPS or from a log file.
If you have 1000s of messages coming to a person computer it doesn't mean squat what your filtering scheme is. Even if you don't "see" these messages, you machine is still going to have to read messages to evaluate them, or at the least download the headers (though header analysis isn't going to get you 100% filtered spam )
Accepting email from 1000's of possible email addresess @ your domain when you know they're all bogus is just asking for punishment.
Catch all will kill your inbox. I had a catch all from 1996-2002. All of a sudden, around Labor Day 2002 I started getting up to 3000 spams a day. The vast majority were to bogus addresses. Even with local spam filtering my email client was spending near 100% of the time downloading mail.
I eventually killed the catch all, resulting in losing email from some places I'd given unique email addresses to. Also went with a 3rd party spam filter ( spamcop.net ) so most spam never makes it to my desktop at all, getting filtered upstream.
Recently I got a Gmail account. Just for grins I thought I'd test their spam filtering capabilities before using it for anything "real". I reactivated my catch all, forwarding it to my Gmail account. In the last 3 weeks my Gmail spam folder has accumulated 163MB of spam, or almost 27,000 individual messages. Gmail is only catching 30-50 percent of it, I've had to manually tag the remainder.
So while all my catch all addresses bounced these past two years the flow has reduced from 3k a day to about 1k a day.
The only reason to have a catch all is if you want lots of untargeted spam. I don't know how these yahoos do their billing, but if any of them base it on what bounces vs. what's read, then having an open address might just mean they'll make more money because of you.
I don't know the tax rates in Canada, so I have no quarrel with your figures. But even without knowing the rates I can tell your figures are too low.
Income tax is not the only tax. In Canada, as here in the US, after you're taxed on your income you get taxed again almost every time you spend your money.
Sales Tax
Alcohol Tax
Tobacco Tax
Gasoline Tax
Again I don't know about Canada, but here in the US we can't get a bill in the mail without a sizeable number of taxes and "gov't mandated fees" ( same as tax as far as I'm concerned ). A basic phone bill has a large percentage of separately listed fees that are mandated.
So the figures are all well and good, but leaving out all the fees paid post-tax is a pretty good omission.
Just on the gas tax, if you earned $10.00, paid 18% you'd net $8.20. When gas is $2.00 a gallon you can buy 4 even gallons. In CA the combined State and Federal gas taxes are about $.46 a gallon. For the 4 gallons purchased you'd pay $1.86 in taxes.
So, on this particular $10 you'd pay $3.66 in taxes, 36.6% being a little bit different than the 18% income tax.
Not all taxes are as high as those on gas, alcohol, tobacco and other "luxuries", but any comparison of taxes for a region has to include the taxes on the post-tax income to be accurate
Total area is only part of it. No need ( or desire ) to be compatible with any standard outside of Japan helps a lot. The U.K. could do similar things, but as people move often between the U.K. and Europe, a scheme like that would likely fail in lieu of one that would work seamlessly between areas.
This same reasoning also applied to things like car navigation systems. Mapping all of Japan was of course easier than all of the US. Someone could have come up with a system that only worked in California, but as drivers too frequently go out of CA, it wouldn't fare well. Not to many people driving out of Japan. The US isn't even close to the car navigation penetration that Japan had 15 years ago.
Hawaii might be comparable to Japan, but like England and Europe, too many people going back and forth that expect to have their wireless devices work seamlessly.
So geography plays a big part of Japan's ease in integrating new wireless technology, but it's that combined with their culture that makes it work.
I like the diagnonal idea, and Florida is The Sunshine State. Start with a dome in Miami for the sun, end with the ping pong ball in Fairbanks.
National Geographic Traveler just started a series of articles from a guy driving that distance, heading south. He could have visited the various planets along the way.
Regardless of the OS, applications, security features, if your parents aren't very local, try to get them a laptop. Even if they use a monitor, mouse, keyboard and such, it's much easier working on it at home with more resources than in their den.
My Mom's in Hawaii, I'm in AZ. FedEx ground is cheap enough that if it can't be fixed in a 10 minute phone call I'll have her send it to me, get it spruced up, send it back. When she was out for Christmas, she brought it with and I updated things then also.
Next time, if we still go the Windows route, I'd put on XP Pro just for the remote access feature.
The HP Capshare scannner did the same a few years back, I remember seeing the demo at COMDEX.
Rubbed it on a document like you were erasing a whiteboard. It assemembled all the bits it saw into a single image.
It listed for $1295 in 1999
http://www.canada.hp.com/cpo/home.html
It could be an illustration for Michael Crichton's "Prey", where the villans were swarms of silicon nano-bots
Actually, the worse you could lose would be 250GB to a single head crash.
Unless there was such a thing as a head crash so catastrophic that it exploded outside the case taking 3 other drives with it.
OnStar doesn't make a big deal of it, but while they emphasis the satellite aspect, the communications is pure cellular. If there's no cell coverage, you're SOL as far as OnStar is concerned.
Granted, they use the older analog AMPS network which has better coverage than the newer PCS ones, but it still has limits on where it works.
So if you're lost, OnStar will help if you can call them. If there's no cell coverage, you'd be better off if that GPS wasn't a black box in the trunk but had some sort of display and map database.
In conventional digital cameras it's the color that's interpolated, not the brightness. If you took a B&W picture, you'd have a 6MP image.
So yes, there is interpolation going on, but it's for 2/3s of the colors, and not brightness.
Short version: Resolution is what the CCD has for pixels. Color fidelity is improved if you have separate ones for each color, or separate layers for each color like the Foveon chip does.
According to the linked article the spam was sent from unsuspecting user's hacked computers: Meehan?s office charges that from about November 2001 to December 2002, Carlson, ?a disgruntled Phillies fan,? hacked into computers of unsuspecting users and from those computers launched spam e-mail attacks with long messages voicing his complaints about the Phillies management.
They are available in San Jose area Ritz stores. Called a friend there, and remembering how iOpeners changed when hacked, he went immediately to buy 4. Two for each of us, one to use, one to open.
The camera uses two standard AA batteries ( Panaconic in at leaast one camera )
Not really much of a price bump. There are two product lines for the Palm watch: Fossil and Abacus. The plastic "sport" version of the Abacus brand is only $169.
I've pre-ordered that one. I'll probably try the wrist thing for a while, but I can see popping off the band and going for a pocket watch kind of effect. Shopping lists and other utilities that I use on the Palm now, but don't always take advantage of when I dont' want to carry around.
While it's a big watch, it's much more pocketable than the current full size Palms, but with the same 160x160 screen
Semi-intelligent? Would that be something smarter than paying the penis enlarger type spammers to flood us with offers again? That's the savy customers they signed up, the ones who replied to those emails?
I signed up for Walmart's service today, just because they aren't Netflix. They boosted their IPO with a spam campaign, so I just want to see them whither and go away.
I've figured the reason you don't see a HDD in a DV camcorder now is that they want to sell tapes. A 60GB laptop drive would take less space than the mechanism to drive, read and eject a DV tape, while holding the equivilant of 5 tapes worth of video. With a firewire connection to suck into your computer for editing or writing to your media of choise. Heck, a removable HDD would even work, though in theory you could download from the camcorder directly to a larger desktop drive.
Sony tries with their variations on optical, but I'm convinced that's just to sell media. That's the whole reason they invented the memory stick.
Solid State is just too expensive and/or slow to replace the HDD. If not, laptops would use it now in lieu of the spinning platter.
If the camcorder used a standard laptop drive, in theory it could be upgraded for mor capacity in the future, or even updated with a solid state version if/when they're feasible.
I had a unique address for Netflix as well. That address wasn't spammed, but others I had ( and other's I never had ) were.
The boosted their customer lists with idiots who actually click on Spam messages prior to their IPO.
It's rare that you can actually go after the people who pay the slimy spammers. Then the opportunity presents itself we should take advantage of it.
Netflix paid spammers to advertise. It wasn't a mistake, wasn't by accident. They don't care.
Reason enough to quit and encourage anyone who'll listen to quit. They are in league with the penis enlargers of the world by choice, so let the business deal with the consequences.
The idea that they might lure people into thinking that there low wait times when they first sign up and then swith later seems to fit with the "character" of the company.
I was a netflix customer early on, when you paid per movie and had just a week to watch them. Good service, and living in San Jose right near their headquarters ( the only shiping point at the time ) meant I could sometimes order a movie on the weekend and have it arrive Monday.
Then they paid spammers to increase their "market share". Not "opt-in" list guys, but the ones who sent to anyname@domain.com. I complained, they replied that they only dealt with opt-in spammers. I told them that I'd have remembered if I'd ever created an account with the email address "HowieIsAGayFuck@mydomain.com". They replied that out millions of spams sent, I was the only one who complained. No apology, never mentioned they'd stop dealing with the offending spam flingers.
So after 2 or 3 years with them I did the only thing in my power, I walked. I'd been getting DVDs every month, told all my friends, heck, even was in on a couple customer focus groups at their offices.
Me, I'm hoping blockbuster and Walmart with their new DVD by mail services squash them like a bug. The idea of a company doing well based on vile spam doesnt' sit well with me.
The fact that there's $$ to be made in selling / servicing voting machines will keep us from getting good ones.
It could have already be a done deal.
Use lotto machines, hell maybe even the network that they communicate with.
Use a slight variant of the existing paper tickets as ballots with a mechanism similar to the current punch card system.
When you've marked your ballot, turn it in to be read. You get a receipt that is your decoded marks.
You review the sheet at the polling place, make corrections as necessary. Like the terminals at the grocery stores you have to say "ok" for it to be accepted.
Your corrected receipt is given to you with a serial number on it. That serial number lets you later review what the "system" thinks your vote was on any particular item. If not you complain to the registrar of voters.
This setup would be cheap per voter ( no individual touch screens, just a single terminal per polling place )
Might use existing hardware / network ( take your ballot to the 7-11 to vote?). Heck, if they suspend lotto sales on election day this might be possible. Just send the usual polling place volunteers where the machines are.
Gives the voter feedback at the site to verify what the "machine" thought their marks were, allows them to correct. No strangers examining hanging chads to guess.
Final feedback using the receipt and access to the final tally. If a group thinks they got screwed by the count, all they have to do is compare their receipts to the official tally. It would be like lotto tickets, tied to the recipt number, not to you, so no privacy issues.
This is something that could be worked out in a month by some 1/2 way intelligent people and the people who wrote the lotto machine s/w. But given the usual amount of corruption and lobbying, it's never gonna happen.
It's almost there. What I'd buy,if they'd build it, is a full featured DV camcorder, but with the tape mechanism replaced by a HDD. Standard DV tapes hold 11GB. A readily available 60GB drive would hold 5+ hours of high quality video with CD quality audio. The current HDD's would take up less space than a DV tape and assorted mechanisms.
With firewire you could then extract the video, either temporarily archiving on a larger disk in your PC, or dump to DVD-R's as either MPEG2, or as raw files for editing later.
For the people who complained that there's no need for longer recoding capacity than you batteries last: you're wrong. With non-removable storage you'd want to have the capacity to last until you get to a place where you could dump the contents. A weekend trip might involve several battery changes / recharges before returning to a place where you could empty the camera.
There might be a small "consipiracy" against this sort of camcorder as it would not consume tapes, but then many of the camcorder manufacturers aren't selling blank tapes. Sony likes making things that use odd or new media to get the media sales later, but not all manufacturers are in that position.
One last comment, Hitachi brought out it's MPEG-Cam years ago. It recorded MPEG-1 onto a PCMCIA hard drive that was smaller than many of the CF cards we use today. It was a little more bulky than a point and shoot still camera, but smaller than a compact camcorder. Of course it didn't have the stuff that modern camcorders have today like large zoom, image stabilization or firewire output.
Great, been watching / waiting for them to do this. I've been using Voicestream( T-mobile ) for the last year while Cingular's been dragging their feet with WAP only service up until recently.
Knowing the term "isp.cingular" was what I needed to find more info.
Thanks
If you're in the US and have Cingular for GSM/GPRS service this probably won't work. Currently Cingular doesn't support GPRS connections to your PC / PDA, only for WAP type things on the phone itself.
T-Mobile will support it though, and people have found they can get unlimited GPRS from Fido.ca out of Candada. With them you can get unlimited GPRS data service for $50 Canadian ( 30-something in $US )