"I am not a victim of a hate crime because I am not stupid," said Smith. "I got an email with an attachment from my buddy in Phoenix, so naturally, I opened it. What's so stupid about that?"
What, Smith was asked, did the email say?
"It said, 'I_love_you.' Why?"
In the words of the great Homer Simpson....Doh!
This is the most informative and acurate article I have seen posted in a very long time. Too bad people think it's a joke.....
On the one hand, the Net gives us the ability to ready any Joe Blo's rants about subjects he knows nothing about, which actually reduces how informed the average citizen is because of all the noise.
Have to disagree with you on this. Whether the information is true or not is not the issue. The more you take in, the more informed you are. Granted, you may be informed to the point that you hate people, and think that all of them are dumb-ass teenagers trolling on/., but you are still informed, and better of for it.
The problem is not that the NET has not lived up to expectations, the problem is that it has become human. Like it or not, human beings gather in groups that have common interests. This is normal behavior.
The Utopian vision that exists out there today will only happen when we are all nothing more than mindless robots following a set of common instructions...or living in the Matrix....
I can see it now, you climb into a cylinder and fire up the latest edition of Quake...and you are IN THE GAME...the holographic device scans your image and places it into the game, and the output is projected to the walls of the cylinder....talk about a total 3d immersion.....
Do we really want any database that contains the kind of information we are talking about running on a piece of software developed by a corporate entity.
I may be a Black Hellicopter KOOK here, but I am thinking back the the movie, "The Net"(Bad movie, good story)
If the US Government sets up this database, running on software developed by any third party, then security will always be a problem. How many "Easter Egg" type bugs exist in most of today's software. What happens if one of the coders at Oracle was having a bad day, and added a backdoor to the database, and then publishes the path to it on the Internet?
I don't pretend to have a solution to this, short of not doing anything, which is probably the best thing we can do. Knee-jerk reactions to the events of 9/11 will end up costing us more than the actual events.
I think someone should propose to Ellison to have all of his personal data (credit card #'s, SSN, financial statements, "real" income, not what is reported to the IRS)stored in an Oracle database that is web-enabled. That will tell us all we need to know.
The problem is there's *nothing* Microsoft can do to stop this sort of virus, as long as they allow execution of files direct from their email client, and honestly I can't see that stopping (and neither can the people where I work, which they're quite happy about:-)
The only way to stop this virus, and several others out there is to educate users. Implement a policy at your company that says no sending or receiving of *.exe,*.com,*.etc..... files and you will stop half of them at the door.
Email is the bane of any system admin, and stupid email users is the death of a lot of them. There is nothing worse than setting up your firewall to block anything known to man, and then turn around and have a user open the attachment and kill the network.
Of all of the viruses that have hit in the last year, the only one that did any major damage without a user opening the attachment was Nimda. All of the others that hit started with someone opening the file.
If the guy from Atlanta was right, it does absolutely no good to put up firewalls, anti-virus, or intrusion detection. If any volunteer can take his limited badge and walk anywhere in the complex, then someone could volunteer, camp out around the IT room(s) and do their work from the inside.
And then there is the ever present wireless links. Walk into the games with a laptop loaded with packet sniffers and a wireless NIC and wallah!!...you have all the info you need, even if you don't hack from inside the games, you have still obtained the needed info to go sit at home and go to work.
I cannot believe that security was that bad at the '96 games, but I am not really all that surprised.
I already have more work time than I can handle. I spend most of the day staring at this monitor, and although I like what I do, that does not mean I want my employer strapping me with a wireless unit that will allow me to work while on vacation, etc. Off time is off time, and I am not going to spend it squinting at my cell phone to see a movie that is going to cost me 10 times more than it would if I rent it, or go see it at the theatre.
Enough of the hype. Cell phones are good for emergencies, but chances are, if I am not around a phone, it is because I do not want to be.....!
How is this any different than any other president in the US history. Lincoln, Washington, and FDR all did the same things.
The people that this is aimed at are NOT american citizens, they are either here on a visa, or here illegally. If you can site one instance where an american citizens rights are being violated by this act, then I will re-consider my stance.
Other USA Patriot Act sections mean that police can obtain an Internet Protocol address, which identifies a cable modem subscriber, as readily as they can learn someone's telephone number.
Chertoff said the government also has used its new powers to obtain court orders for logs from Internet providers that are outside of the court's traditional jurisdiction.
This doesn't seem that much different from a sys admin pulling an IP from his logs and doing an rDNS on it, and then contacting the ISP. They still have to get a court order to get the logs, and since most Cable ISP's are running DHCP, the IP address does not automatically ID someone.
The whole article at Wired and here seem to have a definate bias.
I used to work for an ISP. About 2 years ago, they were gearing up to sell DSL service. We had all the big meetings, and at one point the subject of Subscription Rates came up (how many customers to each T-1's worth of bandwidth). The idiots at the corporate level said 250/1. I almost lost it. This is the reason for the article, not the fact that there may be 5 systems on my network. They started out with a bad pricing plan to establish a market, and now they are loosing money.
Now, I have no problem if they come to me and say, "We cannot continue to offer service at this rate ($??), the new rate will be ($??)". This will allow them to stay in business and provide a service, but to try and generate more revenue based on hype and FUD will not work.
Primitive cultures like the one running Afghanistan don't accept the inevitability of globalism.
By this definition, I am a member of a primitive culture. Globalization is nothing more than a new name on the oldest concept of government. World Domination. If that makes me primitive, so be it, but I like having at least an illusion of some control in my own life.
When the Roman Empire spanned the known world, wouldn't that be considered globalization? The idea that one body can rule a multitude of people is at best absurd, and at worst the biggest lie to come down the shute. Take a look at the problems in the US today. There are far too many people who fall through the cracks of government as it is.
Of course, it is being sold to business from a profit stand point. In order for globalization to work, you have to have the support of the business sector, otherwise, it fails. I don't know when or where the idea re-emerged, or even who or what the driving force behind it is.
Please don't get the idea that I am a member of the KOOKS or Conspiracy Theorists, but sometimes even the paranoid are right, someone is out to get them.
I have noticed over the last 15 or 20 years a trend with the ruling generation to do things that "make us feel good about ourselves" and maybe that is where the idea for globalization got re-started. Whatever the case, it is not a good thing.
As has been pointed out here by several others, the workers suffer in the situation. What the companies who support this idea fail to realize is that they are cutting their own throats when they cut costs by reducing the labor force. Our economy is based on consumption. If you reduce the number of employees in enough companies, then you reduce your possible market. It is a circle, and the workers are only the first to feel the pinch.
Meches can find what he is looking for in just about any laptop produced today. So what if it comes loaded with more bells and whistles than a belly dancer...whipe it off and start over.
Battery life of a week, on a system used for coding...I think that is a little far fetched. I have to agree with him on this point though. My COMPAQ (ewwww) 1200 barely has enough battery life to spend a week out of town checking email. Course...it is a Windows system.
There is more in common between the US and the Roman empire than any of us should be confortable with.
And I am not blind to security risks. But I do know when something is an answer to a problem, and when it is a patch to make the people feel better, and I have not heard any of the former since 9/11.
The point is, if we do make major changes to secure the nation against these types of attacks we will do nothing more than become what we hate.
If the politicians and the press would pay attention to punishing those responsible, and make the punishment so painful that the next person who thinks about commiting this type of crime will think twice, then you have solved the problem.
Seems to me there is more than one drift occuring here. There is no denying that most open source companies have seen the writing on the wall and started developing viable business plans. This, as many have pointed out here, is to be expected.
The other drift that I am referring to, and it may not be a drift, but just a plain and simple prejudice is among the "Open Source" community. Everytime they hear the word "proprietary" they think of Microsoft, Packard Bell, or some other "evil" company.
Here is a question. A lot of the hardware that we use today was developed by people in their spare time. Should this hardware be free?
If you agree that it should, then answer this,
where do you think inovation comes from? A company has to make money in order to exist, and to develop new products.
So, if you have a problem paying for "Open Source" software, don't buy it. Find the base source code that the "proprietary" company used, and develop your own.
We all need to stop and take a few steps back. The events of the last 2 months have taken this country to the brink of hysteria and back. The mainstream press is in a feeding frenzy. They are reporting any rumor that they can get their hands on, all in the name of boosting ratings. Take a look at the last Presidential election and you will see that the self-control that the press once had has disappeared. We cannot allow their drive for money to turn us into a country full of "Chicken Little's" waiting for the sky to fall.
Stop, take a breath, and realize that things like this happen. If we allow ourselves to continue down this road, we will accomplish what no country on this planet has been able to do, bring the US to its knees. People are paralyzed by fear, and the press is feeding this fear. It is time to stop.
Yes, it is terrible when people die, but it happens everyday. Worrying about it will not change it. I believe we should find the people responsible for terrorist attacks and bring them to justice, but not at the cost of our freedom, which is where we are headed. I have heard more members of the press and the government shouting for "National ID Cards", increased security at all public functions, COMDEX banned bags from the convention floor. All of these steps are doing the terrorist work for them. If we allow these criminals to alter our way of life to the point that we cease to function, or regulate ourselves into and Orwellian nightmare then we may as well lie down and die.
Live you life as you always have. Go to work, raise your kids, spend your money, and be happy until given a legitimate reason not to be. Out of all the posts on this site, how many are from people directly affected by 09/11, who either knew someone who is missing, or has family that lost a loved one. The rest of us need to feel sympathetic to the victims and their families, but we should also feel grateful that we are alive, living in the best country on the planet, and act that way.
but I started a job as a telephone support tech for a company that runs software on SCO UNIX. About 4 weeks after I started, the "senior" administrator quit. I ended up with a good jump in pay, got sent to school, and when I got back to work I was called "System Adminstrator". I worked for about 2 years and decided to take the certification tests for SCO and passed, but by no means do I consider myself a "senior adminstrator". The cert tests for SCO are a joke. Open book. Talk about a let down.
If you ask most people here, they will tell you that SCO is not a "real" UNIX, but it keeps me busy. I am working now to port our apps to Linux due to the death of SCO.
like all of you here who are so for the break up of MS. I don't like Bill Gates' business practices any better than you do, but what I hate is the federal gov't becoming involved in an industry that depends on inovation.
If you love something, set it free, if it comes back, it is yours forever, if the fed gets it, it never was.
Never has there been a bigger life sucking entity than the US Fed govt. They produce nothing, yet we gladly give them more money to produce even more nothing.
The bottom line is if they suceed in breaking up MS, then who knows what is next. Some lame ass congressman or senator finds out that Linux is free, and not subject to federal taxation, declares that it is evil on the basis of so and so.....
sound familiar, it should.
This country is founded on the free market system. Let the market work as it should.
If you think the HP device is a unique device, just wait. Before long, all consumer electronics will have to pass the "Copyright protection test" where the various industry leaders vote on how big a piece of the pie they are intitled to. Think back 30 or so years when the IBM clone first came out. If that where to happen now, it would be killed by legislation and copyright infringment litigation.
So the next time you start getting excited about MS being broke up, remember that your pet ox is the next one in the goreing queue.
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Someone please explain to me how this post gets modded as "offtopic"
I will grant a troll mod, i have no problem with that, but how can it be considered off topic?
"I am not a victim of a hate crime because I am not stupid," said Smith. "I got an email with an attachment from my buddy in Phoenix, so naturally, I opened it. What's so stupid about that?"
What, Smith was asked, did the email say?
"It said, 'I_love_you.' Why?"
In the words of the great Homer Simpson....Doh!
This is the most informative and acurate article I have seen posted in a very long time. Too bad people think it's a joke.....
On the one hand, the Net gives us the ability to ready any Joe Blo's rants about subjects he knows nothing about, which actually reduces how informed the average citizen is because of all the noise.
/., but you are still informed, and better of for it.
Have to disagree with you on this. Whether the information is true or not is not the issue. The more you take in, the more informed you are. Granted, you may be informed to the point that you hate people, and think that all of them are dumb-ass teenagers trolling on
The problem is not that the NET has not lived up to expectations, the problem is that it has become human. Like it or not, human beings gather in groups that have common interests. This is normal behavior.
The Utopian vision that exists out there today will only happen when we are all nothing more than mindless robots following a set of common instructions...or living in the Matrix....
I can see it now, you climb into a cylinder and fire up the latest edition of Quake...and you are IN THE GAME...the holographic device scans your image and places it into the game, and the output is projected to the walls of the cylinder....talk about a total 3d immersion.....
Do we really want any database that contains the kind of information we are talking about running on a piece of software developed by a corporate entity.
I may be a Black Hellicopter KOOK here, but I am thinking back the the movie, "The Net"(Bad movie, good story)
If the US Government sets up this database, running on software developed by any third party, then security will always be a problem. How many "Easter Egg" type bugs exist in most of today's software. What happens if one of the coders at Oracle was having a bad day, and added a backdoor to the database, and then publishes the path to it on the Internet?
I don't pretend to have a solution to this, short of not doing anything, which is probably the best thing we can do. Knee-jerk reactions to the events of 9/11 will end up costing us more than the actual events.
I think someone should propose to Ellison to have all of his personal data (credit card #'s, SSN, financial statements, "real" income, not what is reported to the IRS)stored in an Oracle database that is web-enabled. That will tell us all we need to know.
Scary stuff....
The problem is there's *nothing* Microsoft can do to stop this sort of virus, as long as they allow execution of files direct from their email client, and honestly I can't see that stopping (and neither can the people where I work, which they're quite happy about :-)
The only way to stop this virus, and several others out there is to educate users. Implement a policy at your company that says no sending or receiving of *.exe,*.com,*.etc..... files and you will stop half of them at the door.
Email is the bane of any system admin, and stupid email users is the death of a lot of them. There is nothing worse than setting up your firewall to block anything known to man, and then turn around and have a user open the attachment and kill the network.
Of all of the viruses that have hit in the last year, the only one that did any major damage without a user opening the attachment was Nimda. All of the others that hit started with someone opening the file.
Pardon Mwa,
My french is terrible, so is my english...
what can I say.....
Thank you
Secure the equipment!!!!
If the guy from Atlanta was right, it does absolutely no good to put up firewalls, anti-virus, or intrusion detection. If any volunteer can take his limited badge and walk anywhere in the complex, then someone could volunteer, camp out around the IT room(s) and do their work from the inside.
And then there is the ever present wireless links. Walk into the games with a laptop loaded with packet sniffers and a wireless NIC and wallah!!...you have all the info you need, even if you don't hack from inside the games, you have still obtained the needed info to go sit at home and go to work.
I cannot believe that security was that bad at the '96 games, but I am not really all that surprised.
I already have more work time than I can handle. I spend most of the day staring at this monitor, and although I like what I do, that does not mean I want my employer strapping me with a wireless unit that will allow me to work while on vacation, etc. Off time is off time, and I am not going to spend it squinting at my cell phone to see a movie that is going to cost me 10 times more than it would if I rent it, or go see it at the theatre.
Enough of the hype. Cell phones are good for emergencies, but chances are, if I am not around a phone, it is because I do not want to be.....!
How is this any different than any other president in the US history. Lincoln, Washington, and FDR all did the same things.
The people that this is aimed at are NOT american citizens, they are either here on a visa, or here illegally. If you can site one instance where an american citizens rights are being violated by this act, then I will re-consider my stance.
Other USA Patriot Act sections mean that police can obtain an Internet Protocol address, which identifies a cable modem subscriber, as readily as they can learn someone's telephone number.
Chertoff said the government also has used its new powers to obtain court orders for logs from Internet providers that are outside of the court's traditional jurisdiction.
This doesn't seem that much different from a sys admin pulling an IP from his logs and doing an rDNS on it, and then contacting the ISP. They still have to get a court order to get the logs, and since most Cable ISP's are running DHCP, the IP address does not automatically ID someone.
The whole article at Wired and here seem to have a definate bias.
Someone needs to mod the Article to Trollbait. If I had my lucky Troll gun I could rack up here today.
I havent seen this many Trolls since Sparhawk.
I used to work for an ISP. About 2 years ago, they were gearing up to sell DSL service. We had all the big meetings, and at one point the subject of Subscription Rates came up (how many customers to each T-1's worth of bandwidth). The idiots at the corporate level said 250/1. I almost lost it. This is the reason for the article, not the fact that there may be 5 systems on my network. They started out with a bad pricing plan to establish a market, and now they are loosing money.
Now, I have no problem if they come to me and say, "We cannot continue to offer service at this rate ($??), the new rate will be ($??)". This will allow them to stay in business and provide a service, but to try and generate more revenue based on hype and FUD will not work.
Primitive cultures like the one running Afghanistan don't accept the inevitability of globalism.
By this definition, I am a member of a primitive culture. Globalization is nothing more than a new name on the oldest concept of government. World Domination. If that makes me primitive, so be it, but I like having at least an illusion of some control in my own life.
When the Roman Empire spanned the known world, wouldn't that be considered globalization? The idea that one body can rule a multitude of people is at best absurd, and at worst the biggest lie to come down the shute. Take a look at the problems in the US today. There are far too many people who fall through the cracks of government as it is.
Of course, it is being sold to business from a profit stand point. In order for globalization to work, you have to have the support of the business sector, otherwise, it fails. I don't know when or where the idea re-emerged, or even who or what the driving force behind it is.
Please don't get the idea that I am a member of the KOOKS or Conspiracy Theorists, but sometimes even the paranoid are right, someone is out to get them.
I have noticed over the last 15 or 20 years a trend with the ruling generation to do things that "make us feel good about ourselves" and maybe that is where the idea for globalization got re-started. Whatever the case, it is not a good thing.
As has been pointed out here by several others, the workers suffer in the situation. What the companies who support this idea fail to realize is that they are cutting their own throats when they cut costs by reducing the labor force. Our economy is based on consumption. If you reduce the number of employees in enough companies, then you reduce your possible market. It is a circle, and the workers are only the first to feel the pinch.
Meches can find what he is looking for in just about any laptop produced today. So what if it comes loaded with more bells and whistles than a belly dancer...whipe it off and start over.
Battery life of a week, on a system used for coding...I think that is a little far fetched. I have to agree with him on this point though. My COMPAQ (ewwww) 1200 barely has enough battery life to spend a week out of town checking email. Course...it is a Windows system.
What is the average battery life most of you see?
There is more in common between the US and the Roman empire than any of us should be confortable with.
And I am not blind to security risks. But I do know when something is an answer to a problem, and when it is a patch to make the people feel better, and I have not heard any of the former since 9/11.
The point is, if we do make major changes to secure the nation against these types of attacks we will do nothing more than become what we hate.
If the politicians and the press would pay attention to punishing those responsible, and make the punishment so painful that the next person who thinks about commiting this type of crime will think twice, then you have solved the problem.
Seems to me there is more than one drift occuring here. There is no denying that most open source companies have seen the writing on the wall and started developing viable business plans. This, as many have pointed out here, is to be expected.
The other drift that I am referring to, and it may not be a drift, but just a plain and simple prejudice is among the "Open Source" community. Everytime they hear the word "proprietary" they think of Microsoft, Packard Bell, or some other "evil" company.
Here is a question. A lot of the hardware that we use today was developed by people in their spare time. Should this hardware be free?
If you agree that it should, then answer this,
where do you think inovation comes from? A company has to make money in order to exist, and to develop new products.
So, if you have a problem paying for "Open Source" software, don't buy it. Find the base source code that the "proprietary" company used, and develop your own.
I hate to do this, but I cannot resist...
...
I always thought CNN was balancing a load
We all need to stop and take a few steps back. The events of the last 2 months have taken this country to the brink of hysteria and back. The mainstream press is in a feeding frenzy. They are reporting any rumor that they can get their hands on, all in the name of boosting ratings. Take a look at the last Presidential election and you will see that the self-control that the press once had has disappeared. We cannot allow their drive for money to turn us into a country full of "Chicken Little's" waiting for the sky to fall.
Stop, take a breath, and realize that things like this happen. If we allow ourselves to continue down this road, we will accomplish what no country on this planet has been able to do, bring the US to its knees. People are paralyzed by fear, and the press is feeding this fear. It is time to stop.
Yes, it is terrible when people die, but it happens everyday. Worrying about it will not change it. I believe we should find the people responsible for terrorist attacks and bring them to justice, but not at the cost of our freedom, which is where we are headed. I have heard more members of the press and the government shouting for "National ID Cards", increased security at all public functions, COMDEX banned bags from the convention floor. All of these steps are doing the terrorist work for them. If we allow these criminals to alter our way of life to the point that we cease to function, or regulate ourselves into and Orwellian nightmare then we may as well lie down and die.
Live you life as you always have. Go to work, raise your kids, spend your money, and be happy until given a legitimate reason not to be. Out of all the posts on this site, how many are from people directly affected by 09/11, who either knew someone who is missing, or has family that lost a loved one. The rest of us need to feel sympathetic to the victims and their families, but we should also feel grateful that we are alive, living in the best country on the planet, and act that way.
Ahem....excuse me....if witches are made of wood...and ducks are made of wood....burn her!!!.....
GOD: No, no, no..you have it all wrong..nuetrinos really are nuetral....Henderson had a bag of Cheetos for lunch and forgot to wash his hands.
but I started a job as a telephone support tech for a company that runs software on SCO UNIX. About 4 weeks after I started, the "senior" administrator quit. I ended up with a good jump in pay, got sent to school, and when I got back to work I was called "System Adminstrator". I worked for about 2 years and decided to take the certification tests for SCO and passed, but by no means do I consider myself a "senior adminstrator". The cert tests for SCO are a joke. Open book. Talk about a let down.
If you ask most people here, they will tell you that SCO is not a "real" UNIX, but it keeps me busy. I am working now to port our apps to Linux due to the death of SCO.
What can I say, its a job.
woo hoo, got first post and a mod....wait...thats a 0....
ahh well...reducdancy is what I live for
and his name is Larry.... His brothers are Darrel and Darrel
like all of you here who are so for the break up of MS. I don't like Bill Gates' business practices any better than you do, but what I hate is the federal gov't becoming involved in an industry that depends on inovation.
If you love something, set it free, if it comes back, it is yours forever, if the fed gets it, it never was.
Never has there been a bigger life sucking entity than the US Fed govt. They produce nothing, yet we gladly give them more money to produce even more nothing.
The bottom line is if they suceed in breaking up MS, then who knows what is next. Some lame ass congressman or senator finds out that Linux is free, and not subject to federal taxation, declares that it is evil on the basis of so and so.....
sound familiar, it should.
This country is founded on the free market system. Let the market work as it should.
If you think the HP device is a unique device, just wait. Before long, all consumer electronics will have to pass the "Copyright protection test" where the various industry leaders vote on how big a piece of the pie they are intitled to. Think back 30 or so years when the IBM clone first came out. If that where to happen now, it would be killed by legislation and copyright infringment litigation.
So the next time you start getting excited about MS being broke up, remember that your pet ox is the next one in the goreing queue.