That's precious! Quippy! I was about to tell the story about having to download driver tarballs from my Windows machine to fix a borked RH9 installation, but I guess that would be considered flamebait in this context!! HAHAHA!!!
Well, there is the Normal version, sometimes also called Theatrical Release version. Then there's the Director's Cut and sometimes the Two-Disc Extended Aspect Ratio Cut With Pointless Distracting Commentary And Useless Bonus Features version.
And there's the Praise The Lord and Pass The Ammo version, in which the phrase fuck you has been dubbed over with forget you and holy fucking shit has been replaced with oh my.
They're also much shorter. All the violent scenes and sexual content have been removed, so unless you're renting a crummy teenager bubble gum love story produced by Disney you get opening credits, six minutes of disjointed plot lines by characters that seemingly came out of nowhere, and finally the exciting closing credits.
Very efficient, especially if you, like me, have little time to engage in movie viewing. Sometimes you can even get the soundtrack, assuming it has no hip-hop numbers on it.
Wait - are you saying I'm "dense" because of that? The first thing I do whenever I install Windows 2000 or XP is to remove OE. It goes away. Cleanly. Never see it again. I install Outlook 2003 and Agent and I never worry about it again.
Maybe the "default mail" application is still OE on your computer, I don't know. I've never had any problems removing it.
How about you uninstall it instead. The OE files are under the watchful umbrella of the Windows File Protection service which, while obnoxious at times, can also be very helpful for those clueless users who stupidly delete application directories and then cry foul when the affected app fails to load.
Unless you'd like to show me proof that it cannot be uninstalled cleanly... ? I'd be very interested in seeing that.
Yes. Well, if it's any consolation I wasn't talking specifically about you, but about the very thing Dvorak is talking about, and about the mindset that considers an opinion valid or not depending on whether it's advantageous to the "cause", obviously embodied by the high-score comments in that story I linked to and however many people modded your post to +5.
So when Dvorak says "It's time to <do bad thing> to <Microsoft product> and use <some open source project> instead" the Slashbots descend in force, posting more than 1,000 comments that largely praise Dvorak for his insight and intellect.
When he says something that doesn't jibe with the sheep collective, he's an obviously retarded shill hack that should burn in hell. "I've never liked that Dvorak guy, ever". So we dredge up bullshit analogies to prove how wrong he is and rack up the mod points to boot.
Rinse, lather, repeat.
And we wonder how in heavens he could possibly get the idea that the "open source community" is a mob with a collective IQ of 33.
you will concede that Microsoft updates often break apps that have been created by customers.
I will be honest about it, and I'll say yes... once =)
An OS service pack (for Windows 2000) used to rollback a service pack for one of their server products (Host Integration Server).
Of course that's just my experience, but after years and years of pushed updates to thousands of desktops and servers I've seen very few problems, honestly. Not more than I'd expect by simple statistical rot. I imagine it would be no different in *nix, though really this is about the tools that exist to deploy those updates, rather than whether or not they break something when they arrive. All things being equal, the former is more critical than the latter if you consider how often something does actually break (though I don't include things that break because something in a product change, but rather an actual collision between the update(s) and the product(s))
Well, in my experience most of the stuff that's tied together with little scripts, general purpose utilities and dependencies tends to be brittle, even on Unix. Perhaps most importantly, it tends to be mostly unmaintainable.
The incremental cost of adding Linux administration for our workstations is a 1/4 of what you cite.
Yes, but it sounds like you already have an infrastructure in place. I didn't get that from the submission.
Pay 15K per year to have a working supported enterprise management solution, or
Pay 45K per year to hire someone to manage a homegrown house of cards "solution" based on rsync, rpm, apt-get, crontabs and other such industry stalwarts.
I liked TESB a bit better, if only because it was a bit "darker" and had more sequences where Vader was giving his admirals and generals static. And you can't beat that battle sequence in Hoth, though the whole Yoda thing gets a bit tiresome.
I didn't dislike the Ewoks as so many people did, but I thought they were too cute (as opposed to obnoxious like Jar-Jar).
Because that's what it does, and that's what it means.
It does? Well, I don't use WMA, WMP or any other audio technology from them. That seems kind of dumb though - do you figure such a scheme is going to last for long in the land of Kazaa and eMule? Last I checked people can still vote with their wallets. If the device manufacturers jump on the bandwagon with Microsoft and do something like that I'm betting they're not going to sell a lot of devices, and that's ultimately what is going to kill it.
Then again I suppose it's possible they'll go for it, in which case they'll get what they deserve. But that doesn't change the fact that Apple is hoisting a DRM scheme on them right now, and people have no problem with it because a) it works; and b) Shiny objects distract them.
Seriously, this non-stop, defensive demand for "fairness" on Slashdot from MS apologists is pretty sad
Really, no kidding. Especially when you compare it with the non-stop defensive demand for "fairness" from the rest of the world that seems to permeate every third article (not included dupes) that gets posted here.
If that wasn't the case I'd probably wouldn't "whine", though I've always considered it more of a free (as in beer) reality check than a whine. But whatever makes you tick, I guess.
I dunno. Maybe you're a consumer now. Or just another cyberslut.
Perhaps she's complaining because she doesn't follow the party line that permeates your world - namely that customer lock-in and DRM are bad only when they come from Microsoft or someone else, but A-OK when they come from Apple.
I agree that she's not exactly the best person in the world to stand up for customer rights, but she does make that point, I think.
Maybe you didn't catch that, though you seem to have read the whole thing. Score one for highly selective cognisance.
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Cripes.
I still can't actually read messages, but I can see if I have something that requires immediate attention instead of waiting until I get home.
It's interesting and telling that this needs to be "discussed".
And there's the Praise The Lord and Pass The Ammo version, in which the phrase fuck you has been dubbed over with forget you and holy fucking shit has been replaced with oh my.
They're also much shorter. All the violent scenes and sexual content have been removed, so unless you're renting a crummy teenager bubble gum love story produced by Disney you get opening credits, six minutes of disjointed plot lines by characters that seemingly came out of nowhere, and finally the exciting closing credits.
Very efficient, especially if you, like me, have little time to engage in movie viewing. Sometimes you can even get the soundtrack, assuming it has no hip-hop numbers on it.
God bless Wal-Mart, I say.
- Sit around and wait for a Fortune 500 company to issue a $1M bounty
- Try to code a solution and hope you actually win (was: ???)
- Profit!!
I think I'm going to quit my day job now. This looks like a great business model, not to mention an excellent way to pay the mortgage.But you FLUNK teh LISP. You didn't close all your parenthesis.
What about the candidate that can count to six without repeating a number even once? Does he get the job?
Maybe the "default mail" application is still OE on your computer, I don't know. I've never had any problems removing it.
Unless you'd like to show me proof that it cannot be uninstalled cleanly... ? I'd be very interested in seeing that.
Next time think a bit before you post. It helps.
Yes. Well, if it's any consolation I wasn't talking specifically about you, but about the very thing Dvorak is talking about, and about the mindset that considers an opinion valid or not depending on whether it's advantageous to the "cause", obviously embodied by the high-score comments in that story I linked to and however many people modded your post to +5.
Hope that helps.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/25/015525 1&tid=109&tid=185&tid=1
So when Dvorak says "It's time to <do bad thing> to <Microsoft product> and use <some open source project> instead" the Slashbots descend in force, posting more than 1,000 comments that largely praise Dvorak for his insight and intellect.
When he says something that doesn't jibe with the sheep collective, he's an obviously retarded shill hack that should burn in hell. "I've never liked that Dvorak guy, ever". So we dredge up bullshit analogies to prove how wrong he is and rack up the mod points to boot.
Rinse, lather, repeat.
And we wonder how in heavens he could possibly get the idea that the "open source community" is a mob with a collective IQ of 33.
Well that's nice and very funny, but I don't see from what in the submitter's comments you deduced there were three MCSE's - worthless or not.
I will be honest about it, and I'll say yes... once =)
An OS service pack (for Windows 2000) used to rollback a service pack for one of their server products (Host Integration Server).
Of course that's just my experience, but after years and years of pushed updates to thousands of desktops and servers I've seen very few problems, honestly. Not more than I'd expect by simple statistical rot. I imagine it would be no different in *nix, though really this is about the tools that exist to deploy those updates, rather than whether or not they break something when they arrive. All things being equal, the former is more critical than the latter if you consider how often something does actually break (though I don't include things that break because something in a product change, but rather an actual collision between the update(s) and the product(s))
Well, in my experience most of the stuff that's tied together with little scripts, general purpose utilities and dependencies tends to be brittle, even on Unix. Perhaps most importantly, it tends to be mostly unmaintainable.
The incremental cost of adding Linux administration for our workstations is a 1/4 of what you cite.
Yes, but it sounds like you already have an infrastructure in place. I didn't get that from the submission.
Pay 45K per year to hire someone to manage a homegrown house of cards "solution" based on rsync, rpm, apt-get, crontabs and other such industry stalwarts.
I think the choice is clear!
You're right, he needed no conditions at all.
I'd love to see an example of non-trivial software that doesn't need patches. Thanks.
Why can't we have hottie tech reporters, I say? At least when they go crooked we could cut them some slack because they look good =)
I didn't dislike the Ewoks as so many people did, but I thought they were too cute (as opposed to obnoxious like Jar-Jar).
Ah, the "there is no such thing as the Slashbot collective" argument, from... the Slashbot collective.
Thanks.
It does? Well, I don't use WMA, WMP or any other audio technology from them. That seems kind of dumb though - do you figure such a scheme is going to last for long in the land of Kazaa and eMule? Last I checked people can still vote with their wallets. If the device manufacturers jump on the bandwagon with Microsoft and do something like that I'm betting they're not going to sell a lot of devices, and that's ultimately what is going to kill it.
Then again I suppose it's possible they'll go for it, in which case they'll get what they deserve. But that doesn't change the fact that Apple is hoisting a DRM scheme on them right now, and people have no problem with it because a) it works; and b) Shiny objects distract them.
Really? Does that include tracks downloaded from iTunes?
Really, no kidding. Especially when you compare it with the non-stop defensive demand for "fairness" from the rest of the world that seems to permeate every third article (not included dupes) that gets posted here.
If that wasn't the case I'd probably wouldn't "whine", though I've always considered it more of a free (as in beer) reality check than a whine. But whatever makes you tick, I guess.
Perhaps she's complaining because she doesn't follow the party line that permeates your world - namely that customer lock-in and DRM are bad only when they come from Microsoft or someone else, but A-OK when they come from Apple.
I agree that she's not exactly the best person in the world to stand up for customer rights, but she does make that point, I think.
Maybe you didn't catch that, though you seem to have read the whole thing. Score one for highly selective cognisance.
I love that someone modded you up to +5 though.
Awwww, forgive me for pointing out the truth. Won't happen again.