Er, as you would probably have noticed if you'd read the page you'd linked to, that is a port for computers using the 68000 series of processors from Motorola. My post was concerning PPC machines, a different processor family entirely.
The early macs are supported by the mac68k ports of Net and OpenBSD. The later ones (post-601) are supported by the PPC builds. But the 6100, 7100, 8100, and 7200 are all orphaned, so far as BSD is concerned.
A lot of people on here seem to think that Linux for the Mac is only for older machines. Not true.
I've got YDL 2.1 running on a 7200/120 at home - the first PPC mac with PCI slots. Not a new beast by any means. Hell, the BSDs don't even support PPC machines this old.
And I'm looking at installing it on a 6500 as well, which isn't exactly showroom-fresh.
Hopefully this will stem some of the "just run OS X" tide...
I sure hope they let Corwin keep his black and silver leisure suit. It goes so well with the sword.
And I also hope that Eric's beard is "moist" throughout the entire series, because that and the fact that Corwin hates getting little hairs down his shirt are quite possibly the most bizarre details included in the whole series.
*BUT*, think CodeRed/Nimda-like - your problem could also become mine and I sure as hell don't want that!
True enough -- hell, I'm _still_ getting Nimda hits on my webserver, and it's been how many months?
Unfortunately, the way to get rid of problems like this is _not_ to assume that every computer user is, er, security-retarded. I'm more than capable of securing my own systems, thanks, and I don't need any wanna-be dogooders trying to do it for me.
He proposes implanting time codes into all open source networking and security software that cause it to "expire" like a Blade Runner replicant when it reaches a certain age, forcing an update.
Interesting idea, but the assumption that people will only want to run newer software seems a bit flawed to me. To quote the genius Anonymous, "Assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups."
Last night I installed RH 6.2 on an old P75 I picked up somewhere, and ended up installing an old version of openssh on it (along with a bunch of other older stuff) to save disk space. Under this scheme, I wouldn't be able to; despite the fact that the machine is behind a firewall, I'd be bullied into running larger, more secure software.
The computer is mine. The software is mine. And, should there be an issue, the blame is mine. I don't want anyone who thinks they're smarter than me fucking around with my computers. If I did, I'd run Windows, now wouldn't I?
It seems as though there should be an open-source software package that would allow you to take an old computer case, throw some disks, a NIC or three and a RAID card in there and have your own, poor-man's NAS device.
Wehavethewayout.com was returning Apache headers yesterday; today it's returning "Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0", so it appears they've dumped FreeBSD in a hurry, or maybe just changed the headers.
Somehow, I doubt it's a big conspiracy. As someone suggested in the Netcraft story this morning, they probably just moved the domain from their marketing firm's hosting farm to their own box or something.
Not that the fact that their own marketing firm won't eat the dog food isn't funny, but this isn't front page news by a long shot.
But it's not like the world's going to end if, for one day out of the year, there's a bunch of bogus stories.
True enough. Maybe I'm just irritated because this is the third year I've been reading Slashdot on April 1, and I can't remember any of the prank stories _ever_ being funny.
Ah, well, fuck it. Tomorrow is another day. Oh, and to the fellow who called me a Karma Whore, bugger off. I've been at the cap for months.
And what exactly is this "Slashdot experience?" that's being ruined here?
Why, "News for Nerds. Stuff that matters." of course.
I read this site, and especially the comments, because they contain a lot of information I can't find anywhere else in such a concentrated form. I like reading about news in hardware and software and science, I like reading commentary from people who've been in this business longer than me. Hell, I even like some of the trolls.
Despite all the bitching a lot of people do, this is still a hell of a resource for geeks like me. It's just annoying that the very valuable, very appreciated service is suspended once a year for unbelievably clumsy and juvenile attempts at humor.
Hell, if I wanted something painfully unreadable and irritating, I'd unblock Katz.
It would be funny if there were one or two joke stories. But this just ruins the "Slashdot experience" for a day every year. Annoying and funny are not the same thing, editors.
Anyone know if this will work under the Linux emulation layer in the *BSD family? I'd love to give it a try, but my only x86 box is running OpenBSD and I doubt they'll release a LinuxPPC build so I can try it with the penguin.
I'm downloading this (slowly) in another window - does anyone know if this includes a conduit for Apple's Address Book app, or if there's one available from the Apple site? Would be nice to have an updated list for Mail.app...
Instead of paying through my nose to transfer the domain to another registrar, I am going to let the 3 month period go by and just register the same domain with godaddy. I am not going to give Verisign as much as a penny during my life time.
Hopefully they'll actually release the domain name when it expires. I've heard dozens of complaints that Verisign squats on names after they expire and nobody can buy them.
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Er, as you would probably have noticed if you'd read the page you'd linked to, that is a port for computers using the 68000 series of processors from Motorola. My post was concerning PPC machines, a different processor family entirely.
The early macs are supported by the mac68k ports of Net and OpenBSD. The later ones (post-601) are supported by the PPC builds. But the 6100, 7100, 8100, and 7200 are all orphaned, so far as BSD is concerned.
Perhaps you ought to've looked harder.
--saint
A lot of people on here seem to think that Linux for the Mac is only for older machines. Not true.
I've got YDL 2.1 running on a 7200/120 at home - the first PPC mac with PCI slots. Not a new beast by any means. Hell, the BSDs don't even support PPC machines this old.
And I'm looking at installing it on a 6500 as well, which isn't exactly showroom-fresh.
Hopefully this will stem some of the "just run OS X" tide...
--saint
Zelazney's "The Chronicles of Amber"
I sure hope they let Corwin keep his black and silver leisure suit. It goes so well with the sword.
And I also hope that Eric's beard is "moist" throughout the entire series, because that and the fact that Corwin hates getting little hairs down his shirt are quite possibly the most bizarre details included in the whole series.
--saint
*BUT*, think CodeRed/Nimda-like - your problem could also become mine and I sure as hell don't want that!
True enough -- hell, I'm _still_ getting Nimda hits on my webserver, and it's been how many months?
Unfortunately, the way to get rid of problems like this is _not_ to assume that every computer user is, er, security-retarded. I'm more than capable of securing my own systems, thanks, and I don't need any wanna-be dogooders trying to do it for me.
--saint
He proposes implanting time codes into all open source networking and security software that cause it to "expire" like a Blade Runner replicant when it reaches a certain age, forcing an update.
Interesting idea, but the assumption that people will only want to run newer software seems a bit flawed to me. To quote the genius Anonymous, "Assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups."
Last night I installed RH 6.2 on an old P75 I picked up somewhere, and ended up installing an old version of openssh on it (along with a bunch of other older stuff) to save disk space. Under this scheme, I wouldn't be able to; despite the fact that the machine is behind a firewall, I'd be bullied into running larger, more secure software.
The computer is mine. The software is mine. And, should there be an issue, the blame is mine. I don't want anyone who thinks they're smarter than me fucking around with my computers. If I did, I'd run Windows, now wouldn't I?
--saint
Do you really expect people to cowar in fear at the prospect of making change because it is too hard to try?
Yes. Most would rather watch reruns of "Webster." But hey, thanks for asking.
--saint
devices like "digital pens" could possibly replace keyboards as primary data entry devices.
Wonderful. I really miss the light pen I had on my Atari 1200xl circa 1986 or so.
--saint
It seems as though there should be an open-source software package that would allow you to take an old computer case, throw some disks, a NIC or three and a RAID card in there and have your own, poor-man's NAS device.
/usr/ports/net/samba
cd
make && make install
--saint
if you don't KNOW what's in your box, why are you installing on it?
Because I just fished it out of the recycling pile at work?
--saint
Wehavethewayout.com was returning Apache headers yesterday; today it's returning "Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0", so it appears they've dumped FreeBSD in a hurry, or maybe just changed the headers.
Somehow, I doubt it's a big conspiracy. As someone suggested in the Netcraft story this morning, they probably just moved the domain from their marketing firm's hosting farm to their own box or something.
Not that the fact that their own marketing firm won't eat the dog food isn't funny, but this isn't front page news by a long shot.
--saint
Plumbers of the digital world are still plumbers.
I'd be willing to bet that the average plumber makes more money than the average Slashdot reader.
No need to laugh at people for working with shit all day, be they a plumber or an MCSE.
--po' white saint
This also is your chance to voice who should take the reigns from the kernel's originator.
Taco's mom.
--saint
But it's not like the world's going to end if, for one day out of the year, there's a bunch of bogus stories.
True enough. Maybe I'm just irritated because this is the third year I've been reading Slashdot on April 1, and I can't remember any of the prank stories _ever_ being funny.
Ah, well, fuck it. Tomorrow is another day. Oh, and to the fellow who called me a Karma Whore, bugger off. I've been at the cap for months.
--saint
And what exactly is this "Slashdot experience?" that's being ruined here?
Why, "News for Nerds. Stuff that matters." of course.
I read this site, and especially the comments, because they contain a lot of information I can't find anywhere else in such a concentrated form. I like reading about news in hardware and software and science, I like reading commentary from people who've been in this business longer than me. Hell, I even like some of the trolls.
Despite all the bitching a lot of people do, this is still a hell of a resource for geeks like me. It's just annoying that the very valuable, very appreciated service is suspended once a year for unbelievably clumsy and juvenile attempts at humor.
Hell, if I wanted something painfully unreadable and irritating, I'd unblock Katz.
--saint
Oh, God, when will this stupid-assed holiday end?
It would be funny if there were one or two joke stories. But this just ruins the "Slashdot experience" for a day every year. Annoying and funny are not the same thing, editors.
--saint
Just how much time do you spend on the toilet? Time to cut some of the Mountain Dew out of the diet, maybe?
--saint
Now if I only had a time machine that could take me back a year and a half, to when I was actually playing that game...
--saint
Can someone help me find my ass?
Sorry, I just mailed my last copy of that remedial ass-finding video along with all my 30 pin SIMMs to this dolt.
--saint
Following past trends of Sony, this handheld probably won't be available for at least 6 months for us Canadians *grumbles*.
Yeah, but just think of how organized your hockey equipment will be in six short months.
--saint
(Who has lots of family in Canada.)
Do large corporations really want to use cutting edge technology?
I don't know, can you get me a GeForce 3 for my VAX? Still using it for a lot of services...
--saint
Cut the whining, bitching, and moaning, and do something constructive - if you're capable, that is.
Thank you. It's nice to see the old "shut the fuck up and produce some code" spirit is still alive in this wasteland of trolls.
--saint
Anyone know if this will work under the Linux emulation layer in the *BSD family? I'd love to give it a try, but my only x86 box is running OpenBSD and I doubt they'll release a LinuxPPC build so I can try it with the penguin.
--saint
I'm downloading this (slowly) in another window - does anyone know if this includes a conduit for Apple's Address Book app, or if there's one available from the Apple site? Would be nice to have an updated list for Mail.app...
--saint
Instead of paying through my nose to transfer the domain to another registrar, I am going to let the 3 month period go by and just register the same domain with godaddy. I am not going to give Verisign as much as a penny during my life time.
Hopefully they'll actually release the domain name when it expires. I've heard dozens of complaints that Verisign squats on names after they expire and nobody can buy them.
--saint
What's in the year ahead?
Twelve more months of Taco bitching about the single mouse button.
Oh, and hopefully some rackmountable Apple gear so I can run a server with a little style. I've been hearing rumors from inside the Compound itself...
--saint