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on from the silicon-cakes-taste-terrible dept.
genixia noted that the BBC was the first to note that
Linux has turned 10 today. Happy birthday and congrats to the hackers whose labor pains keep giving us new tarballs.
Re:frist psot fcukers
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omkhar
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Happy birthday
in celebration, i declare a ....
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diamondc
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first post for linux! probably too late for that , but it's been fun learning about unix through linux about 4 years ago and I use it at home and at work. always stable, has NEVER crashed on me, and cool desktops like KDE and GNOME.. what more do you need? congrats linus.
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<sigh> I'm taking a lot of abuse because I accidentally typed in <grin>, rather than & lt;grin & gt;, and slashdot parsed it out (despite my "plain old text" setting)
I'll learn HTML eventually.
Nope, just an (apparently) pitiful attempt at humour. Sorry for the waste of time. (See? Got the tags right this time...great thing, this "Preview" button)
I still have my 386SX and the 0.99.?? boot floppy that I used to boot it with on what used to be a 200MB hard drive (100MB dedicated to Linux). No ethernet back then, though, so it was only using a modem. I'll have to try that boot floppy on one of these P4s around here.
-- "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master."
I do my best work when I've been drinking. Especially when it comes to computers.....:-)
I didn't talk about drinking in general, just about drinking to much...
"Hey look, heres my old harddrive, there's still some pretty old kernel installed on it, lets take a look at... - *plonk* - ups..."
Oldest machine or oldest linux install?;) I've got linux installed in my '75 El Camino, does that count? It's probalby one of the fastest land-based linux machines around, too...:)
Re:I wonder...
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Anonymous Coward
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I saw a thread similar to this on usenet a few years ago. The winner still had ast listed as a user in his/etc/passwd file.
what can ppl post about?
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Anonymous Coward
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So linux is 10 years old. Congrats. Wouldn't have happened without.... well congrats to everyone here! But seriously, what more can be said? It had to be noted yes, but surely with someother kind of review of the 10 years or something a bit more than BBC news...
Re:what can ppl post about?
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Anonymous Coward
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Why did you FUCKING reply to that? You shouldn't FUCKING reply if you don't have something important to say relating to the topic.
Nice ot see something good that didn't die after all that time. 10 years in computer history is a big milestone, and the most positive aspect is linux isn't dying. Wish I could have celebrated the same with my amiga, but after its 10th birday, while the community was stile alive and kicking, the rest looked more like a skunk that got hit while crossing a road:(.
Ok ok let's not get nostalgic here heh, happy birthday to all of you guys, coders users and abusers:) !
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Metamoderating abusive downgraders since my 300th post.
This is an accomplishment, don't get me wrong. But 10 years is not, no matter what the dot-commers would have you think, a huge milestone in computing. This is just the continued maturation of a product getting better all the time.
Congrats to everybody who's changing the way software is created!
I should have mentionned, "IN TERMS OF PERSONNAL COMPUTING"
Unix 30 years ago wasn't available on your personnal desktop, heck, sorry, there wasn't any personnal desktops...
A majority of personnal computers/OS that were there 20 years ago aren't here anymore... mainly because previous architechture's efficiency was due to the fact that the os was tight to it's supporting hardware, but since you mention it, macOS never ran on any other architechture than it's own, unless running thru an emulator of course:), if you want to list that way here goes:
C64 - didn't last 10 years
Coco - "
Adam - "
TRS-80 - "
TI994A:) - "
VIC20 - "
BE - agony nice if it can live as an embedded solution but that means killing it's basic root, like amiga did.
Etc... - this could go on for days.
Granted these are almost more microcontroller firmware than OSes, but that was due to the ressources available at the time, look at the mac or the amiga that came in after, it was a bit less tight, look at BE dying slowly and being converted to embedded, etc etc
10 years is a HUGE milestone in computing, stop giving sucessful examples, of COURSE SOME STUFF MANAGE TO SURVIVE thru time, sheesh.
10 years ago, you wouldn't even RAYTRACE a 10 second flick on your personnal computer because you would have died waiting.
10 years ago, multiprocessor was only a mainframe buzzword.
10 years ago, 3Dchipsets were out-of-reach technologies
10 years ago, GUI on a PC was a joke
10 years ago, some tools you take for granted today didn't EVEN exist, CD-R is a good example
10 years ago, 256 colors was luxury
10 years ago, internet wasn't something 99.99% of the people knew about
10 years ago you would get 40megs for the price you get 100gigs today.
so please, spare me the dot.com junk argument:) 10 years in computing history is a lot. Enuff said.
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Metamoderating abusive downgraders since my 300th post.
"10 years ago, multiprocessor was only a mainframe buzzword."
Whereas 10 years ago the Amiga had been using multiprocessing for 6 years
(CPU, seperate Display processor).
"10 years ago, GUI on a PC was a joke"
Whereas 10 years ago the Amiga had been using a proper built-in GUI for 6
years (Macs had for the same time or possibly longer, as had other
systems)
"10 years ago, 256 colors was luxury"
Funny that, I was using 4,096 colours as standard on my Amiga 10 years ago
"10 years ago, internet wasn't something 99.99% of the people knew
about"
And that was supposed to be a Bad Thing?!?! See AOL...
"10 years ago you would get 40megs for the price you get 100gigs
today."
Yeah, and 10 years ago you only needed 40M of disk space where you need 100G
today!
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Governments should be afraid of their people.
But Linus was one of the Swedish speaking Finns...
Grattis pa fodelsedagen!
Re:Happy Birthday ...
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Anonymous Coward
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It's "hyvää syntymäpäivää".
Re:Happy Birthday ...
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Anonymous Coward
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Or "onnellista syntymäpäivää". Welcome to the bizzarre world of fenno-ugric language (the base was correct but not the inflection).
Re:Happy Birthday ...
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Anonymous Coward
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Or rather:
Grattis på födelsedagen!
...and just in time for a party at LWE!
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Linux World Expo is next week at the Moscone Center in San Francisco!
It's pretty cool to see how far Linux has actually come since the 'ol days. Maybe one day we'll finally settle this whole Gnome vs KDE stuff once and for all....;)
Speaking of parties..don't forget this party to raise funds for Dimitry's legal defense.
Excellent !
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Anonymous Coward
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Great news... long live Linux:)
Re:Fuckin' foreigners!
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Anonymous Coward
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Way to go... rip off Cliff Yablonski without even crediting the cranky bastard..
Linux is 10 *tomorrow* saturday
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AndmaN
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Tomorrow, August 25 (or September 17, whatever you prefer) is the correct date, even the BBC article says so.. *sigh*
Re:Linux is 10 *tomorrow* saturday
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Lxy
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My opinion is Sept 17. The reason being that on Aug 25, 1991 Linux posted a message that he was WORKING ON a kernel. That's like a woman telling all her friends that she's pregnant. No birthday has occured, just the official announcement.
No matter which side of the debate you stand on, there's no one in their right mind that thinks linux is 10 today. Sheesh.
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Re:Linux is 10 *tomorrow* saturday
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Anonymous Coward
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Are you implying that Slashdot is a shitty news site, full of incorrect news and incoherent babble? Yeah, I thought so.
I thought Linux's birthday was actually September 17th. I don't remember the source, but I thought it was cool that my birthday was the same day as Linux's birthday.
Actually on August 25, Linus announced that he would make Linux (he didn't give it a name then obviously, but thats another story.). So this is a day early, and not entirly accurate:) Though possible that today he started some coding, as I'm sure he did alot of prelim trials before he made the announcement.
This would mean that Linux was conceived on August 25, but still not 'born' until September 17. I celebrate my birthday on December 25, not some day in March.
Though I imagine that this will spark some heated debate over when software is really functional. The die-hard extremists on one side will argue that it is the moment the first hash mark of the first include was typed and the extremists on the other will claim that the software isn't really there until the product is officially released.
The more rational people will realise that software probably begins its existance sometime around when it can actually be compiled.
Less than a week ago I went to a book signing event for "Just for fun". One of the questions Linus was asked was which was Linux' birthday. Linus said it was a matter of definition, but gave August 25 and September 17 as the candidate dates. His proposed solution was to have two parties.
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: What would you like to see most in minix?
Summary: small poll for my new operating system
Message-ID: <1991Aug25.205708.9541@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
Date: 25 Aug 91 20:57:08 GMT
^^^^^^^^^
Re:Umm
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Yes it is tomorrow.
Shame on you.
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standards
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In a way, this is kind of sad. I mean Linux is 10 years old, put together by a bunch of people who aren't all that interested in being the next Bill Gates, and it's one of the most stable and reliable OSs out there.
It really makes you think - for years, many of us were taught in school that non-capatalist approaches result in poor quality at a very high price.
But at least in this one case, it seems that just the opposite is true: after 20+ years of development, MacOS and Windows and many others, funded by billions of dollars, are just starting to get the stability of Linux. And sadly, this stability is at the expense of flexibility. And with a much higher pricetag. Linux is cheaper, faster, and better. And it isn't even a "product".
This is a testament to the abilities and the desires of those who have worked on Linux over the past decade. The corporate world - you have let us down, and look what we have done. Hold your heads in shame.
Re:Shame on you.
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Karn
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Aren't you forgetting that Bell Labs created Unix? I'm afraid that without corporate influence in computing, we would be very far behind.
Shame you you for overlooking that *small* detail.
Actually, I would have to argue that Linux is the most capitalist OS out there. Everyone is able to compete on even ground, and the best patches and upgrades make it into the final release.
Aren't you forgetting that Bell Labs created Unix? I'm afraid that without corporate influence in computing, we would be very far behind. Shame you you for overlooking that *small* detail.
Actually, you're wrong.
Two guys on an old spare PDP created UNIX. And for the biggest part of it's life (before and after the commercial takeover) it was an open source OS, mostly centered around universities. Yes, after the commercial takeover too, because there was a rebellion against the way corporate influence was screwing up unix, which led to the BSD's.
UNIX lost against Windows specifically because AT&T started selling it, instead of giving it away as they used to do. That made it possible for other companies to license and sell UNIX too, which led to the plethora of unices, all incompatible (because they had to innovate, which fragmented the market so gravely that it became nearly impossible to develop apps that worked on all unices (or even a subset), which meant that there were fewer third party apps than there should have been. And all those 3rd party app developers went to, you guessed it, Windows. Which is why Windows has a 41 percent market share in the server market.
Now, if you had said that we can thank the commercial world for Multics, which in turn was the base for a lot of concepts in unix, then you would have made a point. But unix wasn't multics. It shared no code, and it didn't behave the same way. (In fact, it was largely inferior, because it turned out computers back then weren't powerful enough for an OS like multics)
Next time you want to say something clever, go learn your history first, instead of inventing a wholly new one.
Re:Shame on you.
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I believe capitalism could work, if two things were changed.
First of all, government should exercise control, but instead of being a corporate dummy, where the best-paying company gets the government on their side (look up soft money if you don't believe me), it should be a government focussed around preventing the formation of monopolies. Currently government promotes monopolies, which can't be good. Moonopolies in their own aren't bad, but they almost always become so, because of item number two.
Secondly, the current market is very simple. Publicly traded companies have responsibility only to their shareholders. The shareholders want to see their shares profit, so the company needs not only to turn a profit, but to turn a bigger profit every year (otherwise the shareprice doesn't go up). This means that they either have to grow, or they have to become more efficient at their current operation. So, either they become huge monopolies, or they become very nasty, because there comes a point were the only way to become more efficient is at the cost of your employees and your customers. And most of the time, they do both. A perfect example of this is microsoft, which is a wall street darling only because they've managed to turn a bigger profit every single year for years. They're now even expanding into markets which are notoriously hard to expand into (the game console market), and they're hurting their own customers by making them pay ever larger prices for upgrades they don't really want or need.
So, a way has to be found for the stock market to be altered that this doesn't happen. How, that I don't know. But there must be a way.
True capitalism should revolve around one thing only. Fair competition. Everything that takes away from fair competition (patents, mega-mergers, evil licenses, DMCA) should be altered, or be made rid of.
Yes. Except that Linux is a clone of an OS whose ideas mostly came out of a COMPANY.
KDE/Gnome/Netscape etc also crash a whole lot more than Explorer. I don't know what you're talking about.
Linux gets stability at the expensive of not being flexible. Windows supports 100X more hardware than Linux - that's the only reason why windows (NT) can get unstable.
Personally, I find Linux crashes a lot more than Windows 2000. Many of the applications are in beta and very unstable (even though the kernel is reasonable stable - again at the cost of having little hardware support). How many times has X or Gnome crashed on you today?
KDE/Gnome/Netscape etc also crash a whole lot more than Explorer. I don't know what you're talking about.
Erm, which version are you using?
I mean, if you choose to use the most unstable releases out there, so that you are on the cutting edge, (like I do), well then you get crashes. If you choose a stable release IMHO, you don't. (I don't consider Netscape has having a stable release however - it's a buggy piece of crap and I don't use it:-) ).
On the other hand, you also get updates to the software daily, so a lot of those bugs vanish quickly. For instance, I recently sent in a bug report on KWord - it was fixed in a couple of days, I will be downloading the updated version later today.
Incidentally, I use a Windows NT system where crashing Internet explorer in a particular way caused the system to go down - for the life of me, I can't understand how that could have anything to do with dodgy drivers.
I haven't used Windows 2000 - I can't afford it, and my university hasn't upgraded to it yet.
Re:Shame on you.
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Actually, Ken rewrote MULTICS for the PDP-7, which was a corporate leaded effort from which Bell pulled out eventually. It was "open source" because of antitrust laws: Bell could not sell software, so universities were asked to pay a small nomial fee. That and because there was no SW market at the time.
And you have the balls to say "go and read your history book"?
KDE/Gnome/Netscape etc also crash a whole lot more than Explorer.
I don't use KDE or GNOME as desktop environments (CTWM/Enlightenment for me), but I do use some KDE and GNOME applications. And I don't use Netscape as my brower, but mostly Konqueror/Galeon and Lynx sometimes. And most applications I use under X, be them KDE/GNOME apps or others like Emacs, crash far less than Windows 2000/Microsoft Internet Explorer for me.
Linux gets stability at the expensive of not being flexible.
At the expense of not being flexible? Hmm... In my opinion, Unix/Linux, is far more flexible than Windows or Mac OS or whatever. I can automate almost everything I want with shell scripts, I can set up things the way I want, have decent application API's...
Windows supports 100X more hardware than Linux - that's the only reason why windows (NT) can get unstable.
As for hardware support, yeah, Windows does have some (but not 100 times, not even 2 times) more hardware support than Linux on Intel PC's, but that's mostly because more hardware manufacturers write their drivers for Windows, and then give it to Microsoft. Where things are involved that the OS typically has natively, Linux has better hardware support. On the Intel PC's it supports optimizations for all kinds of CPU's, relatively good drivers for all standard interfaces like IDE/SCSI/ATA/PCI/ISA/AGP, etc. You wouldn't run Windows 2000 on a SPARC/m68k/MIPS system, would you? Oh, and when Itanium starts shipping...
And I don't see how more hardware support, when implemented properly and on a properly written kernel, will cause the system to crash.
So, stability - Linux has it better IMO. Flexibility - Clearly any Unix has it better than Windows/Mac OS. Hardware support - yeah, Windows has some advantage here in the PC market, but see my remark, and personally, I don't have any hardware unsupported by Linux, most such Hardware is just crap (winmodems, for example).
Now as far as bloatation goes... Well, I run Linux on systems Windows can't dream to run on (would you run Windows 2000 on a 80486 66MHz with 16MB of RAM and a 240MB HD, for example? Linux functions great as a server on such a machine), and I have a machine with a Pentium MMX 200MHz and 64MB of RAM, on which Linux runs great, and Windows 2000 runs... but you really feel its bloatation. Now some would say that's a stupid argument, because such systems aren't sold these days anymore... To which I'll answer that's right, but even on a very strong system, I'd prefer the resources to go for other things than OS bloatation...
There are some areas where Windows might fit better, but those aren't stability/flexibility/performance...
Video games, for example... aren't Linux's best target (and probably won't be), and you care less if your game of Quake or whatever crashes every some time, than if your server does... But probably if it wouldn't be for market share, some other system/platform would take on them rather than Windows.
How many times has X or Gnome crashed on you today?
I don't use GNOME as my environment, see above. X hasn't crashed on me today, or yesterday, or in the last month, for that matter.
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How the heck am I supposed to double click on your computer?
Long time ago, some idiots in court ruled that companies are "legal entities" and have the same degree of rights and abilities that people do under that law. Oops. Guess they didn't see what that would cost us.
For my money, corpoate entities should be treated like criminals with regards to what rights they get... but that's just me and I know I'm whacked...
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Happy birthday in multiple languages
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Niksie3
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Lets all post Happy birthday songs in different languages, I will start with dutch
Lang zal die leven,lang zal die leven, lang zal die leven in de gloria, in de gloria, in de gloria hieperdepiep, HOERA!!!!!!!!
add your own additions yourself
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Re:Happy birthday in multiple languages
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Anonymous Coward
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Since the english "Happy Birthday" song was written in my home town of Louisville in the 1890's:
Happy Birthday dear Linux,
Happy Birthday to you!
"Happy Birthday Frank."
"Thanks HAL, a little flatter please." -- 2001: A Space Odyssey
Re:Happy birthday in multiple languages
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The+Wing+Lover
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And the Japanese lyrics to Happy Birthday...
Happi basudeii chu yuu
Happi basudeii chu yuu
Happy basudeii dia rainukkusu
Happi basudeii chu yuu
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Re:Happy birthday in multiple languages
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jrockway
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uh... no
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Re:Happy birthday in multiple languages
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The+Wing+Lover
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I guess you've never lived in Japan and heard people singing Happy Birthday to each other then.
linux10 event in SF bay area
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linuxlover
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So if you are in San Francisco Bay area (native or here for LinuxConf), don't miss the linux10 get together in Sunnyvale (south bay). For more info check out www.linux10.org
Given that Linux is only 10 years old, this proves that the future is very bright and has a very good chance to eventually compete and surpass Microsoft Windows. Windows 1.0 was released in 1985(?), meaning MS has a 6 year head start on the Linux OS. It's fairly obvious that in 6 years, Linux will far surpass what Windows is today.
I should hope that in six years it will surpass what Windows is today! It's pretty likely that Windows itself will, in six years, surpass what it is today.:-)
... In terms of ease-of-use, software library size, and compatibility with other products/devices. Currently, Linux does not compare to Windows in these aspects.
It's fairly obvious that in 6 years, Linux will far surpass what Windows is today.
it would be pretty pathetic if after another 6 years Linux could not surpass what windows is today, argueably it already has.
There is still plenty of room for improvement when it comes to usability and market share, but dont forget, Microsoft is a moving target.
But one thing I would like to point out is that it wouldn't be a good thing if Linux was, in 10 years, what Microsoft is today. That would mean they are just catching up while Microsoft will likely have made some further strides in development therefore causing Linux to try to catch up again....
In terms of ease-of-use, software library size, and compatibility with other products/devices. Currently, Linux does not compare to Windows in these aspects.
Excuse me.. Linux plays well with others, to wit Things that a typical Linux $50 Distribution Can do That $250 MS Windows Dosen't do:
Kerberos - (MS Kerberos is broken)
NFS
Full TCP/IP Stack
NAT (Unlimited Internet Shareing)
Firewall
PPP Server for mutiple clients
SSH and SSH Tunneling
Unlimited Windows Sytle File Server with permissions
DCHP Server
Unlimited Web Server
Application Server in X or VNC
SQL Server
Office Suite
Emulate another OS (Wine)
To get Windows up to speed you need
MS Windows Server Upgrade and CAL Upgrades
MS Sql Server and CAL Upgrades
MS Terminal Server and CAL Upgrades
MS IIS and CAL Upgrades
MS Proxy Server and CAL Upgrades
MS Office and CAL Upgrades
MS Firewall (I forget the name) and CAL Upgrades
Service Pack 2
Lots of Secutity Updates
Cygwin
Although the MS Soletare is pretty good..
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Re:Promising Future
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If Windows 1.0 was released in 1985, that means that it's 16 years old today. Today, Linux is 10 years old. Judging from the power user's base of both platforms, I can see where similarities between the OS ages and the ages of a typical human begin. For the most part, the Linux user base is selfish, self-centric, xenophobic, albeit wildly creative -- in a word, immature. The Windows user base is rather selfless, outgoing, not quite as creative ('borrowing' the best ideas) -- in a word, still immature, but definitely past the bratty prepubescent phase.
It'll be interesting to see what happens when Linux turns 20 and Windows turn 24. We'll be able to compare both the systems and the user bases to an angsty goth and a well to-do yuppie in training:)
Re:Promising Future
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If you like the MS solitaire, you can run it under linux using WinE.
Hate to bring up the point.. But look how far windows has come. Look how far linux has come. Like you said, nothing _major_ has happened to linux is the past 10 years. I think that if linux doesnt do something, it will eventually be eclipsed by the stability of windows. Windows2000 has already proved to be extremely stable. Linux just gets a new FS here, little cleaning up in the code there. Nothing worth mentioning.
Linux today looks almost exactly like Linux did 10 years ago.
What are you smoking, and where did you get it? Linux is so radically different under the hood today that it can scarecely be compared to what it was like 10 years ago. From a user standpoint it's also changed radically, with the advent of multiple quite nice and usable GUIs. Unless you take the almost meaningless concept of the Linux command line (in which case it's true that the GNU tools haven't changed much in appearance in 10 years) things have changed drastically. And if you do take that standpoint, Windows hasn't changed much, either. The DOS prompt under Windows looks pretty much exactly like what it looked like 10 years ago, too. And remember that many, if not most, Windows users are still using a version of Windows that's running on DOS technology and hasn't really changed that much at all.
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There's no point in questioning authority if you aren't going to listen to the answers.
Those nice and usable GUIs are not Linux. It is the tenth anniversary of the Linux *kernel*. The kernel itself hasn't radically changed at all. It has ten years worth of incremental improvements, but I seriously doubt you could show me something in the paging module that is radically different from ten years ago.
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Hate to bring up the point.. But look how far windows has come.
Yep, and they only had to borrow from BSD to do it.;)
Linux just gets a new FS here, a little cleaning up in the code there.
True, but a whole lot of those little achievements, added up over time, make for a huge advance from year to year.
Also: the fact that Linux can run on (at my count, on the 2.4.2 kernel) 37 different file systems and on at least a dozen different architechtures (Alpha, SPARC, Intel, PowerPC, Motorola 68000 series, IBM 390 series, IA 64, etc.) gives it another big advantage over Windows: portability.
AFAIK Linux 2.4.xx was major rewrite of 2.2.xx and 2.0.xx was major rewrite of 1.2.xx. Take for example SMP support. It have been imporved significantly in 2.4.xx comparing with previous stable kernel branches.
I'm not kernel hacker but I seriosly doubt that too much Linux kernel code that was written 10 year ago could survive these rewrites.
it is MY birthday too
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Linux is 10, I am 22, and Windows95 is now 7 years old [released on my BDay].
You can send me gifts, etc, or just a 'sup dog' to spaz@thesuits.com
later
D~y
Re:it is MY birthday too
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At 22 you still can't count correctly? For shame. Win 95 was released in '95. 1995 + 6 = 2001
Re:it is MY birthday too
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Anonymous Coward
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Doh, yeah....after submitting it...doh.
Ohh well, I just quickly threw this up here before all the FPs, sorry about that. Yes, I can count....if I was awake, and besides, is it not my birthday, cannot even I not be subject to the constants in the Universe for one day?
Spaz
LINUX?
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UMM what's linux?
Re:LINUX?
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It's like a vibrator, but for men.
Yahoo!!!!!
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Anonymous Coward
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Happy Birthday to my fine web-footed friend!!!!
http://www.linux10.org/
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Zeio
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Linux10 party still has room on the East Coast!! =)
Linux 10th Anniversary Picnic/BBQ
August 25th, 2001 from 11:00 to 6:00
Sunnyvale Baylands Park, Sunnyvale, CA, USA
Bring the kids!
Mark your calendars! The Linux 10th anniversary picnic/BBQ will be Saturday, August 25, 2001 from 11:00 AM to 6:00 PM.
We had to stop taking new RSVPs for Linux10 when the picnic area capacity was reached on Aug 14. However, "Linux10 East Coast" in Philadelphia still has plenty of room. See below for more Linux 10th anniversary events.
Burgers, hot dogs, veggie burgers, and other picnic foods will be served until 3:30 and are free to all those who RSVP'ed
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The past is not nearly as important as the future.
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destinati
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10 years ago was about the time I got my first computer. It was a 386SX/20 that came preloaded with Windows 3.0 (not 3.1!) and MS-DOS. Since then I've gone on to use Windows 3.1, 95, 98, 2000 and now XP. In my heart, I would love to use Linux, however it just doesn't have all of the applications that I would like to use. However, it's getting closer. So, I haven't used Linux full time yet. However, with many products becoming more mature that run on Linux, I feel that I may switch to using Linux full time within the next 10 years. I think that when that point in time when the switch is an obvious one for hold-outs like myself, there is going to be exponential growth. For those of you working to make Linux software reach this point.. God speed! I'll see you in 10 years. (maybe sooner)
My brother turned 19 today:-P He's born on Linux's birthday (just not the same year).
New Code Red II Variant Reported
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ReidMaynard
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My slashdot story was rejected.
look here ==> http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/169297.html
"The new variant, which has initially been dubbed CodeRed.d, is nearly identical to its predecessor except for two minor pieces of code, according to Roger Thompson, head of malicious code research at TruSecure Corp.
The new worm has replaced a fragment of code known as an "atom" that was unique to the earlier version, the string "CodeRedII," with a series of underscore characters. In addition, the byte at offset 07C5 is changed from a 0 to an FF, according to Thompson, who announced the discovery today on a number of security mailing lists.
The minor tweaks in CodeRed.d appear to be a deliberate attempt to evade poorly designed intrusion detection systems or anti-virus software that is merely looking for the "CodeRedII" string, according to Thompson. "
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open source is an intellectual property destroyer
- Jim Allchin, Microsoft executive, Feb 2001
Software is like sex; it's better when it's free
- Linus Torvalds
Any sufficiently advanced Operating System is indistinguishable from Linux
- Jim Dennis
Linux... Find out what you've been missing
while you've been rebooting Windows NT.
- anon
See Linux run...
See Windows run... scared.
- anon
Microsoft will make something that doesn't suck
when it starts manufactoring vaccum cleaners.
- car bumper sticker
I thought that aliens would take over the world,
but I never suspected the Finns.
- garf@roadum.demon.co.uk
How do you power off this machine?
- Linus Torvalds, when upgrading linux.cs.helsinki.fi,
and after using the machine for several months.
The most important design issue...
is the fact that Linux is supposed to be fun...
- Linus Torvalds,
at the First Dutch International Symposium on Linux
Open-Source Architecture requires neither Windows nor Gates
- Malcolm Macsween
Linux - What itch do you want to scratch today?
- Ulrik Haugen
With Linux there is no Bill to pay
- Maurice Fonhof
First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.
- Mahatma Gandhi (possibly not talking about Linux!)
Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin
really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have
never seen an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100 mph.
They'd be a lot more careful about what they said if they had.
- Linus Torvalds
Linux represents a best-of-breed Unix
- Vinod Valloppillil
Linux is like living in a teepee. No Windows, no Gates, Apache in house.
- Usenet signature
Consumers love it
- Vinod Valloppillil
The best thing about GNU/Linux is the people who use it.
- Kenneth W. Melvin
Most of the primary apps that people require when they
move to Linux are already available for free. This includes
web servers, POP clients, mail servers, text editors, etc
- Vinod Valloppillil
Don't throw your PC out of the window,
throw Windows out of your PC and run linux!
- Gernot Kerschbaumer
Linux and other OSS advocates are making a progressively
more credible argument that OSS software is at least as robust
- if not more - than commercial alternatives.
- Vinod Valloppillil
If the box says ``Windows 95 or better'', it should run on Linux, right?
- anon
Linux can win
- Vinod Valloppillil
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[http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk/prog/linuxbirth da y.html]
Re:What they say...
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Mr.+Sketch
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The best thing about GNU/Linux is the people who use it.
- Kenneth W. Melvin
This is the only quote I don't agree with. I think the users are probably the worst thing about Linux. I'm not saying that all users are bad, but what annoys me is the people whose only response to a question is RTFM. The people who get on their high horse about how superior Linux is and how everything else sucks also annoy me, but not as much since I know they're right, these are also the people who respond to any Windows problem by telling them to reformat and install Linux.
I think the Linux user community has a ways to go and should learn to be more inclusive of non-Linux users and Linux users who are new to Linux. Once the Linux users become more helpful, then I'll agree that the Linux users are the best thing about Linux.
I think the users are probably the worst thing about Linux. I'm not saying that all users are bad, but what annoys me is the people whose only response to a question is RTFM.
This really irks me. The users of GNU/Linux wrote those fabulous (and freely available) manuals (HOWTOs, FAQs, infos, mans, etc.) to answer your questions. They *are* being helpful. And you complain because you want them to read the answers to you? I don't think it is rude to tell a lazy person to do their own homework.
This really irks me. The users of GNU/Linux wrote those fabulous (and freely available) manuals (HOWTOs, FAQs, infos, mans, etc.) to answer your questions. They *are* being helpful. And you complain because you want them to read the answers to you? I don't think it is rude to tell a lazy person to do their own homework.
And what about when the person doesn't understand the manuals? Sometimes it's nice to hear something explained in a slightly different manner.
I find it far more likely, though, that the original poster was referring to people that say "RTFM" and don't even say *where* TFM is. I've seen it happen quite a bit; somebody posts to a message board asking how to set up their 3dfx card, how to install KDE2, or how to get Samba running, and they get replies telling them to RTFM. When they ask where it is... Nobody says anything else. It's more than a little frustrating.
I'll admit freely -- for about four months after I installed Linux, I had no clue what a "man" page was. I'd ask how to do something, invariably get a reply telling me to read the man page, and I'd have no clue what the person was talking about. Fortunately, one day I discovered the forums at www.linuxnewbie.org, where people (tend to) give straight answers...
-- Karma: Terrifying (mostly affected by atrocities you've committed)
Re:What they say...
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Anonymous Coward
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I think the Linux user community has a ways to go and should learn to be more inclusive of non-Linux users
Let me get this straight...You want a group of people who are gathered together because they share a common interest (linux) to be more inclusive of people who don't share that interest?
Why not go find a windows users group instead? Which, btw, I highly doubt would be very "inclusive" with linux users.
-- "No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare." --James Madison
I've found that the greatest barier to inclusion is often the users themselves. In other words this is a group that tends to spend too much time looking down it's nose. What I've also found is that those who say RTFM often don't understand enough to explain it anyway. I've gotten TONS of flames from various "Linux Users" written with outlook express. In fact if I write an article and do get flamed it always seems to be from someone running windwoze rather than Linux. So my advice is when someone says RTFM just send all future mail from them to the bit bucket and stick with the real users of Linux. They do answer questions, provide assistance and they only thing they ask is.
Ask questions that are specific. Give me the details, the more you tell me the more I can help.
Be prepared to do the same when it's your turn to help.
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I'm sorry, I'm to tired to be witty at the moment so this message will have to do.
Holy fuck, do I ever hate you
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 0, Offtopic
I really and truly do. Thanks for waisting the five seconds of my life it took to read that, and the 10 seconds on my life it took to write this.
Re:Holy fuck, do I ever hate you
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 0, Offtopic
No kidding. Wordsmith? Are you sure you didn't mean slashdot-terminal?
Re:HP Creates it own version of Linux Based on Red
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 0
Thanks. That story was posted on/. yesterday I think.
Australian IT may have beaten the BBC.
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jamesbromberger
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The Australian (National daily newspaper) had this story on their site from around noon WST (+0800). In Australia, regional LUGs are doing a nationwide InstallFest to celebrate.
Re:Synchronicity: A Call For Presents
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Anonymous Coward
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Why don't all you stingy motherfucks buy us something nice?
You sure that's a factor of 3, and not a sum?
Subliminal Journalistic Spin
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cruff
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I loved the pictures that accompanied the article. A smiling Linus and a sneering Gates. Now, just on the basis of that, which OS should you prefer?:-)
Re:Subliminal Journalistic Spin
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spudnic
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and the picture of Tux that apparently didn't have the transparency mask set correctly. (or did they intend to use that horrible background color?)
--
load "linux",8,1
BBC article: OS/2 Flamebait
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gnugnugnu
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from the article:
Said Parker: "The biggest threat is if IBM only
gets 30-40% of the market they have been
privately targetting, they might well write it off
as an experiment that did not pay off like OS/2."
And who remembers that?
Just stand back and watch the OS/2 nostalgics go, they wont be happy about that one! Not ever having run OS/2 id seriously like to know why people like it. i do know that it had a proper network stack before windows3.11 came along, but how did it manage to last so long, IBM only killed it off in the past year or so
OS/2 is that like half an OS?
:P i know old joke sorry, my bad.
Re:BBC article: OS/2 Flamebait
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Tower
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>OS/2 is that like half an OS?
Well, sure - you could run it on a PS/2, which some claim was only half of a computer:)
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"It's tough to be bilingual when you get hit in the head."
in a couple years Tux is gonna start growing hair in strange places and start pursuing other "penguins":-0
Who cares?
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Anonymous Coward
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Linux is 10 years old and is still an unusable piece of junk. WTF have you been doing for the past 10 years? Oh and I want to be one of the lame posters that tries to suck Linus' dick as they proclaim how geat linux is. Get a fuckin' life people.
Dear moderators, go ahead waste your mod points on this post. You know I'm right.
So now Linux is finally "good software"
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heffel
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At least according to this guy. That claims that "good software takes 10 years". (There was a slashdot story on this a while back, but I couldn't find the link.)
Your comment violated the postercomment compression filter. Comment aborted
I was wondering
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 0
if Linus remembers the exact date that
he first wrote the multithreaded application that printed out
1's and 2's, which eventually became Linux. That
was the true beginning of Linux, although the official
date is the usenet post
Re:I was wondering
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Anonymous Coward
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Is that haiku or a limerick? It certainly isn't standard English prose, I can tell that much.
I am celebrating the 10th anniversary of my 24th birthday today!
-- This.sig is fake but accurate.
winXP birthday today also
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dev_null
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it's kinda ironic that windows XP source was finalized today, marking today it's "birth"-day.
(linux and winXP share a birthday? is that all they share?)
Re:winXP birthday today also
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foxglove
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And Win95 was released on Aug24 also.:) Ironic.
Re:winXP birthday today also
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a_n_d_e_r_s
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I find it ironic that Windows had to add an X to its name just because Linux has one.
-- Just saying it like it are.
The best birthday present I can think of..
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Bowie+J.+Poag
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· Score: 1, Troll
The best birthday present I can think to give the Linux community on its 10th birthday is the news that Slashdot casually forgot to mention that trading on VA Linux Systems' stock was halted yesterday during market trading. The quicker this company falls off the radar, the quicker the Linux community can go back to being the way it was before VA came along. Cooperative, fair, and fun, instead of competitive, corrupt, and stressful.
With that in mind, its easy to say that Linux has a bright future ahead. Here's to another 10..:)
-- Bowie J. Poag
Re:The best birthday present I can think of..
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Anonymous Coward
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...not that any other company has ever halted trading for an earnings announcement...
Happy Birthday SLACKWARE!
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Anonymous Coward
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Since Slashdot's search function is currently down while they rebuild the search database, I'll spare you the flame you might normally get for whining that your submission of a two-day-old story was rejected.
growth spurt...
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option8
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considering it's still a few years away from puberty, there's still some time before linux's real Growth Spurt.
and if you consider in ten years it's gone from exactly one user to.. um? millions? (depends on who you ask) the next few years will be prety interesting.
also if you consider the original kernel source and the current(ish) kernel source are, respectively, 71 Kb and 26,830 Kb (gzipped), what will the future bring? 2 CD distros of just the kernel?
hell, the patches are 10x larger than the original source. that's one fast growing 10 year old...
happy birthday Linux and thank you, Linus
<RMS> it's GNU/Linux !!!!
<RMS>/kick User
ROFL!
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Anonymous Coward
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...and Slashdork ACTS it!:-D
Cynicism is not always a good thing...
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stonewolf
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· Score: 4, Interesting
Ten years ago I saw a posting from Linus about his new operating system. I read it. I remember he was asking for people to help him develop it. I thought it sounded very very nice. I started to compose an email back to him telling him that I would devote all my spare time to the project and make it my lifes goal to support it.
And then I said, "Yeah.... right.... Some college kid is going to implement UNIX. Yeah... Walk away slowly..." And I deleted the partially composed email.
They say the only things you truely regret are the things you didn't do. Well, I KNOW that is not true, but not sending that email is something I DO regret.
Of course, this is just my opinion, but since the whole point of Linux is that it's "Free" (i.e., open to the world), then I'd say it was "born" on the first day it was available for download -- i.e., released. Obviously, it wasn't finished then, but what software product is ever really "finished" on its first release?
-- Your Servant, B. Baggins
Not that long...
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Anonymous Coward
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Linux is finnish, and most finns start drinking at 12-16.
Can you please sound a little more gross?!
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Anonymous Coward
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Happy birthday and congrats to the hackers whose labor pains keep giving us new tarballs.
OK, I'm a geek, so I know what you're saying in the above sentence. However, I still can't help cringing a little when I hear labor pains and tarball in the same sentence. Sounds like Linus just gave birth to the elephant man or something...
Its already saturday in Oz, Kiwiland, Oceania...
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anticypher
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CmdrTaco might be in Vladivostok, or Guam, or some part of the earth where "Today" is already saturday. But then again, this is/.'s own CT, who thinks that Holland is in Michigan:-)
I'll be downing a cold beer to celebrate, actually, the celebrations seem to have started early, and I'll continue for another few hours until the official "announcement anniversary"
the AC
[Yes, I know there is a Holland in.mi.us, but I'm heading up to Rotterdam in a few hours to consume large quantities of beer]
-- Hemos is like...sci-fi fans;he thinks technology is cool, but he hasn't bothered to understand the science it's based on
Windows NT turns 8 this month?
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LinuxParanoid
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And Windows NT turns 8 in September. It first shipped in September 1993. (Development first started in October 1988 when Dave Cutler left DEC for Microsoft.)
Of course, for both NT and Linux, one could argue that the GNU portions of Linux, somewhat like the Win16-OS/2 antecedents of NT, developed earlier, before the true "birth date". (OS embryos in the womb?)
As someone using Linux since 1992, I've found this age similarity to be striking. What do *you* think is the significance of the fact that Linux is older than NT?
--LinuxParanoid
LinuxParanoid, since I remain concerned that Linux advocates aren't paranoid enough(!)
y muchas felicidades a todos los linuxeros, programadores, testers, traductores, escritores y soñadores que hicieron de este sistema operativo una realidad. En honor a Linux, Linus, y todos ustedes, levanto mi copa y brindo por un pasado envidiable, y un futuro aun mejor!
SALUD!!
cHALiTO
-- "Luck is my middle name," said Rincewind, indistinctly. "Mind you, my first name is Bad." -- Terry Pratchett
Linux is cool
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Anonymous Coward
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I like Linux.
Linux Anecdotes
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joeytsai
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· Score: 2, Informative
One of the funniest articles I've read is a brief history of Linux, told from the trenches by Lars Wirzenius.
-- http://www.talknerdy.org
CEASE AND DESIST
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Anonymous Coward
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The song "Happy Birthday" is protected by US and International Copyright Laws and Treaties. You will immediately Cease and Desist all verbal, "musical", written, and digital reproduction of "Happy Birthday".
Respectfully yours,
Howard Hughes.
Re:HP Creates it own version of Linux Based on Red
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Listen+Up
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My mistake. Yes, the Search Engine working would have made this a much better deal for everyone. I apologize. Maybe instead of rejecting stories out of hand you could have a few options such as "Already Submitted: Rejected" or "Already Posted: Rejected." Without your search engine working then just "Rejected: -1" doesn't tell me much. Yes, posting like I did is perfectly okay because there are definitely some stories that get sent to Slashdot, but get rejected only to never get posted or posted later in the week or month by someone else. Sometimes even Slashdot editors taking all of the credit themselves. Again, I apologize...Please fix the search engine and if you could please try and have some kind of more verbose rejection system for articles that have been already posted or repeated. Thanks
Software painful to produce?
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sharkey
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Happy birthday and congrats to the hackers whose labor pains keep giving us new tarballs.
So if producing a Linux kernel feels like childbirth, what do Windows developers feel? Intestinal cramps like someone dumped a whole pack of laxatives into their chocolate shake?
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"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
And it has a long way to go....
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Anonymous Coward
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Linux maybe 10 today. And Linux may have a loyal following. However Linux has a long way to go before it is as refined as BSD. Or as wide spread (main stream user here) as Mac or Win is.
Today would be a great do to address the sad state of affairs Linux is in.... and if you don't think problem exist well then your just kidding yourself.
I'm exactly 10 years older than Linux, to the day!
_______
The revolution will be slashdotted
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-3Suns
~~~~ The Revolution will be Slashdotted
No it's not
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Anonymous Coward
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That was not a goatse link. Haven't you noticed that the new/. puts the domain name in brackets after the link like this?
In Celebration...
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Anonymous Coward
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I went out and purchased the Boxed version of RH 7.1. Yes, I know. Zillions of people say "never buy Linux, just download it" Whatever. The boxed version comes with so much more. Including Loki Games. Not that I care to game much any more, but you know, at least it's an option.
So I coughed up $79.95 + local tax for it. Happy Birthday Linux!
p.s. IP trace this ".l.. " That's my fsck you sign for threatening IP trace on my last post. Other than that, have a great Birthday, and get sh*tty!
Yay
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Anonymous Coward
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Oh great, I get to share my birthday with a large fluffy penguin... just brilliant:)
Unfortunately, unless proprietary media formats, such as Winblowz Media Player or DVD CSS, are totaly torpedoed or else supported on Linux, the consumer market will not move en masse away from windows. Sadly, we may lose the home desktop because of this DRM crapola. I say this even though I like Linux and despise Microsoft.
-- "that's not encryption - it's a new perl script that I'm working on..." - from some Matrix parody
The best thing about GNU/Linux is the people who use it.
- Kenneth W. Melvin
I was going to reply to this message, saying that this is the one point of the entire list which deserves special emphasis. I was a bit surprised to see that someone else has already replied saying it's the only point he did not agree with.
Sure, GNU/Linux people can sometimes be a pain, especially when they disagree with each other. But I always realize that it's only because they care. They care deeply, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
--
Stop worrying about the risks of nuclear power and start worrying about the risks of not using nuclear power.
joining that flood in acknowledging what linux has done for me.
thank you all.
Ah, but is Linux a boy or a girl?
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uchian
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Am I going to get calls from irate people telling me all the bad things my OS has been doing, or am I going to have to keep a careful eye on what all those other similar aged OS's are doing, to make sure they don't get my Linux system into trouble?
But technically speaking, neither is the Windows GUI. (at least in 95/98, I'm guessing it's the same in 2000 however...)
In case you haven't noticed, the GUI is a program called Explorer.exe
You can change it if you like, I think it's the first line in System.ini, or one of the other system text files.
You can change it to a different program though there don't appear to be any out there that actually work very well...
I've seen the odd program that does this to get maximum performance out of games - by not loading the Windows GUI at all and booting straight into the game.
But if you want to talk about the Windows kernel, then like the Linux GUI'S, you have to disregard all of the fancy enhancements to the Windows desktop, by your own arguments.
Re:Windows is no different
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Arandir
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Oh I agree with you totally! I don't know where you got the idea that I thought Windows was an OS:-) It may be marketed as an OS, but Microsoft only makes two operating systems: DOS and NT.
-- A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
If you ask me which is the singlemost greatest contribution which the 'linux phenomenon' has provided to mankind, my answer would be the grandiose 'philosophy' which it brought to the masses.
Was non-violence a new idea? No. Hadn't many people practiced it before with great perfection? Yes. Then what made Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi a great person in the whole history of mankind?
It was the way by which he brought the idea into practice and made the masses adopt them.
This is what had happened with Linux also. Aren't there many OS's better than Linux? You can never say "No" with conviction. Aren't there many Unices themselves who can easily overtake Linux in most of the areas which the Linux community boasts as the advantages of Linux? My answer would be "Yes".
But the way in which Linux brought programming to the masses is unparalleled in computing history. No GNU, no BSD could do that. And this phenomenon shall only grow with time, removing all the flaws, and in its endeavour towards perfection, I have no doubt that one day it will surely overtake its rivals.
Linux will have a big place in history like Buddha and Christ - unparalleled, unprecedented.
In an age, when I understood the term of "software" as a "set of packages for word processing, database etc." and looked at that field with contempt for the same reason, Linux gave me intellectual as well as emotional stimulation. And not just for me, but for millions of others also. It was and is for me the embodiment of almost all the good things on earth.
Keep Linux, kill the Penguin
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Anonymous Coward
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Now that Linux is ten years old, it's time to get rid of that stupid looking fruity-ass penguin mascot! It's so childish: it looks like a Southpark character with Homer Simpson's head used as a template for the penguin's head. It belongs on the same show that has a purple dinosaur, not on a real OS.
Re:Keep Linux, kill the Penguin
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n2dasun
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...and bold enough to do it anonymously:)
-- I'm determined to reclaim my karma. Now, if I can only find a groundbreaking article and something witty to say....
What's that in 'technology-years'?
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Anonymous Coward
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In software, 10 years may as well be 1,000. I love Linux like all you other freaks here, and it's tempting to pat 'the community' on the back, but compare this progress to corporate product. It's not even close. Granted, Linux was not originally intended to be for the widespread masses and it probably never will be. For every-day people, it's a toy. Not even a very good toy at that, if it can't accept your sound card/video card/modem/whatever without more work than most people are willing to do.
Linux is 10-year-old technology chasing its tail to produce more 10-year-old technology and that's a problem.
If you want your story posted
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Cowboy+Bill
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Just say Linux is 10! or maybe wait till next year.. Gawd Im sick of being told for the 100th time on slashdot that Linux is 10 today. Linux is 10 today. Linux is 10 today. Linux is 10 today. Linux is 10 today. Linux is 10 today. Linux is 10 today. Linux is 10 today. Linux is 10 today.
-- --> Your Wisecrack Here
Happy Birthday Little Brother!
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Anonymous Coward
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Signed
Chuck.....
Haapy Birthday Linux!!!
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Anonymous Coward
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Happy Birthday Linux, and congratulations to you Linus!!! Best thing ever developped!!!!! I wish you (Linus and Linux) all the best for the future!
Why I like Linux? It's now ten years old, and the newest kernel can still run on nearly ten years old systems!!! Can that do other OS' too????
Have a nice linux party, Andi
I will celebrate it on Oct 5th
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Isaac-Lew
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Happy birthday
first post for linux! probably too late for that , but it's been fun learning about unix through linux about 4 years ago and I use it at home and at work. always stable, has NEVER crashed on me, and cool desktops like KDE and GNOME.. what more do you need? congrats linus.
"I keep looking in the want-ads under 'revolutionary' but there don't seem to be any listings.. "
Soon it will be puberty...
Je t'aime Stéphanie
Can one speculate how far we will have reached
in 10 years ?
Congrats and happy birthday to Linux's team
Happy birthday Linux!!!!!!!!!
Congrats to Linus and all of us who have ever debugged a kernel module until 2:00 in the morning!
Okay mods, go ahead and mod me down. Don't care. Had to join in the celebration!!!
I am disrespectful to dirt! Can you see that I am serious?!
What Linux wants for it's birthday ... maybe for the school (M$) bully to stop beating it up.
giggles
-- www.globaltics.net
Political discussion for a new world
That olive crown is the best part of the article. Long live the Caesar!!!
It's been a wild ride so far.
"Never trust a computer you can't throw out a window." -Steve Wozniak
Wow ... A 10 year old programmed that whole kernel by himself? ... oh wait, maybe I should reread that ...
I got my first skateboard
if common sense was common, wouldn't everyone have it?
that was a lame attemp for a joke
who of you guys has the oldest running linux machine?
Unfortunatly I'm out - I just dropped my old 200Meg Drive on the floor in an accident some time ago...
Note to myself: never drink to much while close to precious equipment..
Must you post?
" ...whose labor pains keep giving us new tarballs"
...
You can get medication for that you know
So linux is 10 years old. Congrats. Wouldn't have happened without.... well congrats to everyone here! But seriously, what more can be said? It had to be noted yes, but surely with someother kind of review of the 10 years or something a bit more than BBC news...
Great, now we can lump it in with MS-DOS and Win 3.x
didnt windows 95 come out 6 years ago today?
Nice ot see something good that didn't die after all that time. 10 years in computer history is a big milestone, and the most positive aspect is linux isn't dying. Wish I could have celebrated the same with my amiga, but after its 10th birday, while the community was stile alive and kicking, the rest looked more like a skunk that got hit while crossing a road :(.
:) !
Ok ok let's not get nostalgic here heh, happy birthday to all of you guys, coders users and abusers
--- Metamoderating abusive downgraders since my 300th post.
or as they say in your homeland ... "Onnellinen syntymäpäivä!"
Linux World Expo is next week at the Moscone Center in San Francisco!
;)
It's pretty cool to see how far Linux has actually come since the 'ol days. Maybe one day we'll finally settle this whole Gnome vs KDE stuff once and for all....
Speaking of parties..don't forget this party to raise funds for Dimitry's legal defense.
Great news... long live Linux :)
Way to go... rip off Cliff Yablonski without even crediting the cranky bastard..
The next ten years will only get better!!
and..Thanks to all involved for a great OS!
"The Most Fun Possible on 4 wheels" is at SunBuggy in Las Vegas
Tomorrow, August 25 (or September 17, whatever you prefer) is the correct date, even the BBC article says so.. *sigh*
I thought Linux's birthday was actually September 17th. I don't remember the source, but I thought it was cool that my birthday was the same day as Linux's birthday.
-Karl
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: What would you like to see most in minix?
Summary: small poll for my new operating system
Message-ID: <1991Aug25.205708.9541@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
Date: 25 Aug 91 20:57:08 GMT
^^^^^^^^^
In a way, this is kind of sad. I mean Linux is 10 years old, put together by a bunch of people who aren't all that interested in being the next Bill Gates, and it's one of the most stable and reliable OSs out there.
It really makes you think - for years, many of us were taught in school that non-capatalist approaches result in poor quality at a very high price.
But at least in this one case, it seems that just the opposite is true: after 20+ years of development, MacOS and Windows and many others, funded by billions of dollars, are just starting to get the stability of Linux. And sadly, this stability is at the expense of flexibility. And with a much higher pricetag. Linux is cheaper, faster, and better. And it isn't even a "product".
This is a testament to the abilities and the desires of those who have worked on Linux over the past decade. The corporate world - you have let us down, and look what we have done. Hold your heads in shame.
Lets all post Happy birthday songs in different languages, I will start with dutch
Lang zal die leven,lang zal die leven, lang zal die leven in de gloria, in de gloria, in de gloria hieperdepiep, HOERA!!!!!!!!
add your own additions yourself
Sig you!
Ok, so it was flamebait, but it WAS funny.
So if you are in San Francisco Bay area (native or here for LinuxConf), don't miss the linux10 get together in Sunnyvale (south bay). For more info check out
www.linux10.org
...it'll be able to drink in the U.S.!
Celebrate the finer things in life
Given that Linux is only 10 years old, this proves that the future is very bright and has a very good chance to eventually compete and surpass Microsoft Windows. Windows 1.0 was released in 1985(?), meaning MS has a 6 year head start on the Linux OS. It's fairly obvious that in 6 years, Linux will far surpass what Windows is today.
Happy Birthday Linux!!
Wanna talk about instability? Think about what Windows looked like 10 years ago.
Got Rhinos?
Linux is 10, I am 22, and Windows95 is now 7 years old [released on my BDay].
You can send me gifts, etc, or just a 'sup dog' to spaz@thesuits.com
later
D~y
UMM what's linux?
Happy Birthday to my fine web-footed friend!!!!
http://www.linux10.org/
Linux10 party still has room on the East Coast!! =)
Linux 10th Anniversary Picnic/BBQ August 25th, 2001 from 11:00 to 6:00 Sunnyvale Baylands Park, Sunnyvale, CA, USA Bring the kids!
Mark your calendars! The Linux 10th anniversary picnic/BBQ will be Saturday, August 25, 2001 from 11:00 AM to 6:00 PM.
We had to stop taking new RSVPs for Linux10 when the picnic area capacity was reached on Aug 14. However, "Linux10 East Coast" in Philadelphia still has plenty of room. See below for more Linux 10th anniversary events.
Burgers, hot dogs, veggie burgers, and other picnic foods will be served until 3:30 and are free to all those who RSVP'ed
Legalize the constitution. Think for yourself question authority.
Today also, windows 95 is turning six.
10 years ago was about the time I got my first computer. It was a 386SX/20 that came preloaded with Windows 3.0 (not 3.1!) and MS-DOS. Since then I've gone on to use Windows 3.1, 95, 98, 2000 and now XP. In my heart, I would love to use Linux, however it just doesn't have all of the applications that I would like to use. However, it's getting closer. So, I haven't used Linux full time yet. However, with many products becoming more mature that run on Linux, I feel that I may switch to using Linux full time within the next 10 years. I think that when that point in time when the switch is an obvious one for hold-outs like myself, there is going to be exponential growth. For those of you working to make Linux software reach this point.. God speed! I'll see you in 10 years. (maybe sooner)
still infantile
(sorry, couldn't resist)
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess? - Joshua (Wargames)
My brother turned 19 today :-P He's born on Linux's birthday (just not the same year).
My slashdot story was rejected.
look here ==> http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/169297.html
"The new variant, which has initially been dubbed CodeRed.d, is nearly identical to its predecessor except for two minor pieces of code, according to Roger Thompson, head of malicious code research at TruSecure Corp.
The new worm has replaced a fragment of code known as an "atom" that was unique to the earlier version, the string "CodeRedII," with a series of underscore characters. In addition, the byte at offset 07C5 is changed from a 0 to an FF, according to Thompson, who announced the discovery today on a number of security mailing lists.
The minor tweaks in CodeRed.d appear to be a deliberate attempt to evade poorly designed intrusion detection systems or anti-virus software that is merely looking for the "CodeRedII" string, according to Thompson. "
-- www.globaltics.net
Political discussion for a new world
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open source is an intellectual property destroyer
- Jim Allchin, Microsoft executive, Feb 2001
Software is like sex; it's better when it's free
- Linus Torvalds
Any sufficiently advanced Operating System is indistinguishable from Linux
- Jim Dennis
Linux... Find out what you've been missing
while you've been rebooting Windows NT.
- anon
See Linux run...
See Windows run... scared.
- anon
Microsoft will make something that doesn't suck
when it starts manufactoring vaccum cleaners.
- car bumper sticker
I thought that aliens would take over the world,
but I never suspected the Finns.
- garf@roadum.demon.co.uk
How do you power off this machine?
- Linus Torvalds, when upgrading linux.cs.helsinki.fi,
and after using the machine for several months.
The most important design issue...
is the fact that Linux is supposed to be fun...
- Linus Torvalds,
at the First Dutch International Symposium on Linux
Open-Source Architecture requires neither Windows nor Gates
- Malcolm Macsween
Linux - What itch do you want to scratch today?
- Ulrik Haugen
With Linux there is no Bill to pay
- Maurice Fonhof
First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.
- Mahatma Gandhi (possibly not talking about Linux!)
Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin
really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have
never seen an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100 mph.
They'd be a lot more careful about what they said if they had.
- Linus Torvalds
Linux represents a best-of-breed Unix
- Vinod Valloppillil
Linux is like living in a teepee. No Windows, no Gates, Apache in house.
- Usenet signature
Consumers love it
- Vinod Valloppillil
The best thing about GNU/Linux is the people who use it.
- Kenneth W. Melvin
Most of the primary apps that people require when they
move to Linux are already available for free. This includes
web servers, POP clients, mail servers, text editors, etc
- Vinod Valloppillil
Don't throw your PC out of the window,
throw Windows out of your PC and run linux!
- Gernot Kerschbaumer
Linux and other OSS advocates are making a progressively
more credible argument that OSS software is at least as robust
- if not more - than commercial alternatives.
- Vinod Valloppillil
If the box says ``Windows 95 or better'', it should run on Linux, right?
- anon
Linux can win
- Vinod Valloppillil
---|ENDSNIP
[http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk/prog/linuxbirt
I really and truly do. Thanks for waisting the five seconds of my life it took to read that, and the 10 seconds on my life it took to write this.
Thanks. That story was posted on /. yesterday I think.
The Australian (National daily newspaper) had this story on their site from around noon WST (+0800). In Australia, regional LUGs are doing a nationwide InstallFest to celebrate.
Hmm. From code snippet to the monster it is today.
*SNIFF*
You've come a long way baby! We're a little bit further along the development curve than any Microsoft OS was at the 10 year mark.
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
And my system has 11 years uptime!
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
Why don't all you stingy motherfucks buy us something nice?
/></
Personal me, collaborative you
I loved the pictures that accompanied the article. A smiling Linus and a sneering Gates. Now, just on the basis of that, which OS should you prefer? :-)
Just stand back and watch the OS/2 nostalgics go, they wont be happy about that one! Not ever having run OS/2 id seriously like to know why people like it. i do know that it had a proper network stack before windows3.11 came along, but how did it manage to last so long, IBM only killed it off in the past year or so
OS/2 is that like half an OS?
:P i know old joke sorry, my bad.
joshua:/proc# echo "Happy Birthday" >/proc/kcore
:-)
joshua:/proc#
Doesn't seem to make him pleased...
joshua:/proc# telinit "Happy Birthday"
Usage: telinit 0123456SsQqAaBbCcUu
well at least we get an answer
Happy Birthday to you Linux !
Thanks to all who made it possible.
Long live Linux !
in a couple years Tux is gonna start growing hair in strange places and start pursuing other "penguins" :-0
Linux is 10 years old and is still an unusable piece of junk. WTF have you been doing for the past 10 years? Oh and I want to be one of the lame posters that tries to suck Linus' dick as they proclaim how geat linux is. Get a fuckin' life people.
Dear moderators, go ahead waste your mod points on this post. You know I'm right.
At least according to this guy. That claims that "good software takes 10 years". (There was a slashdot story on this a while back, but I couldn't find the link.)
Heffel
Expert Java EE Consulting
EMPEROR PENGUIN: Aptenodytes forsteri
Distribution: Antarctica.
Habitat: Lives only on pack ice and in the surrounding oceans.
Size: Emperor penguins measure around112cm. in length and they weigh anything from 20 - 40kg.
Lifespan: Roughly 20 years.
Krispy Cream is people
... labor pains keep giving us new tarballs...
Is that anything like the pain associated with a kidney stone? Heard those suck.
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if Linus remembers the exact date that
he first wrote the multithreaded application that printed out
1's and 2's, which eventually became Linux. That
was the true beginning of Linux, although the official
date is the usenet post
The link to the slashdot story on "Good software takes 10 years" can be found here.
Heffel
Expert Java EE Consulting
Have you trolls no shame?!!!
How old is that in Penguin Years?
Happy Birthday Linux!
Thanks Linus!
"If you have done 6 impossible things this morning, why not round it off with breakfast at Milliways" -- hhgg
Linux Today has a poll where you can vote for the best operating system.
Note: This is an unbiased and unscientific poll, for entertainment purposes only.
Things you think are in the Constitution, but are not.
Happy Birthday, Linux! (:
Thank you all.
I am celebrating the 10th anniversary of my 24th birthday today!
This
it's kinda ironic that windows XP source was finalized today, marking today it's "birth"-day.
(linux and winXP share a birthday? is that all they share?)
The best birthday present I can think to give the Linux community on its 10th birthday is the news that Slashdot casually forgot to mention that trading on VA Linux Systems' stock was halted yesterday during market trading. The quicker this company falls off the radar, the quicker the Linux community can go back to being the way it was before VA came along. Cooperative, fair, and fun, instead of competitive, corrupt, and stressful.
With that in mind, its easy to say that Linux has a bright future ahead. Here's to another 10..
Bowie J. Poag
Just the bigot in me coming out, that's all.
*cough*
HP To Sell Custom High-Security GNU/Linux Distro.
Since Slashdot's search function is currently down while they rebuild the search database, I'll spare you the flame you might normally get for whining that your submission of a two-day-old story was rejected.
considering it's still a few years away from puberty, there's still some time before linux's real Growth Spurt.
and if you consider in ten years it's gone from exactly one user to.. um? millions? (depends on who you ask) the next few years will be prety interesting.
also if you consider the original kernel source and the current(ish) kernel source are, respectively, 71 Kb and 26,830 Kb (gzipped), what will the future bring? 2 CD distros of just the kernel?
hell, the patches are 10x larger than the original source. that's one fast growing 10 year old...
- Entertaining Bits from the Ancient Kernel Tree
happy birthday Linux and thank you, Linus /kick User
<RMS> it's GNU/Linux !!!!
<RMS>
And then I said, "Yeah.... right.... Some college kid is going to implement UNIX. Yeah... Walk away slowly..." And I deleted the partially composed email.
They say the only things you truely regret are the things you didn't do. Well, I KNOW that is not true, but not sending that email is something I DO regret.
Stonewolf
Of course, this is just my opinion, but since the whole point of Linux is that it's "Free" (i.e., open to the world), then I'd say it was "born" on the first day it was available for download -- i.e., released. Obviously, it wasn't finished then, but what software product is ever really "finished" on its first release?
Your Servant, B. Baggins
Linux is finnish, and most finns start drinking at 12-16.
Happy birthday and congrats to the hackers whose labor pains keep giving us new tarballs.
OK, I'm a geek, so I know what you're saying in the above sentence. However, I still can't help cringing a little when I hear labor pains and tarball in the same sentence. Sounds like Linus just gave birth to the elephant man or something...
Just want to say Congratulations to all Linux Developers!
I hope to still be able to run Linux in 2010 in my 15000Mhz PC.
:-)
Get my e-mail after a captcha test in: http://tinymailt
CmdrTaco might be in Vladivostok, or Guam, or some part of the earth where "Today" is already saturday. But then again, this is /.'s own CT, who thinks that Holland is in Michigan :-)
.mi.us, but I'm heading up to Rotterdam in a few hours to consume large quantities of beer]
I'll be downing a cold beer to celebrate, actually, the celebrations seem to have started early, and I'll continue for another few hours until the official "announcement anniversary"
the AC
[Yes, I know there is a Holland in
Hemos is like...sci-fi fans;he thinks technology is cool, but he hasn't bothered to understand the science it's based on
And Windows NT turns 8 in September. It first shipped in September 1993. (Development first started in October 1988 when Dave Cutler left DEC for Microsoft.)
Of course, for both NT and Linux, one could argue that the GNU portions of Linux, somewhat like the Win16-OS/2 antecedents of NT, developed earlier, before the true "birth date". (OS embryos in the womb?)
As someone using Linux since 1992, I've found this age similarity to be striking. What do *you* think is the significance of the fact that Linux is older than NT?
--LinuxParanoid
LinuxParanoid, since I remain concerned that Linux advocates aren't paranoid enough(!)
Just think.. In only a few years Linux will be driving his first car, having his first crush, and graduating from school! He's growing up so fast!
-- I'll cut you up so bad, you'll wish I'd never cut you up so bad!
Feliz cumpleaños, Linux!!!
y muchas felicidades a todos los linuxeros, programadores, testers, traductores, escritores y soñadores que hicieron de este sistema operativo una realidad. En honor a Linux, Linus, y todos ustedes, levanto mi copa y brindo por un pasado envidiable, y un futuro aun mejor!
SALUD!!
cHALiTO
"Luck is my middle name," said Rincewind, indistinctly. "Mind you, my first name is Bad." -- Terry Pratchett
I like Linux.
One of the funniest articles I've read is a brief history of Linux, told from the trenches by Lars Wirzenius.
http://www.talknerdy.org
Respectfully yours,
Howard Hughes.
My mistake. Yes, the Search Engine working would have made this a much better deal for everyone. I apologize. Maybe instead of rejecting stories out of hand you could have a few options such as "Already Submitted: Rejected" or "Already Posted: Rejected." Without your search engine working then just "Rejected: -1" doesn't tell me much. Yes, posting like I did is perfectly okay because there are definitely some stories that get sent to Slashdot, but get rejected only to never get posted or posted later in the week or month by someone else. Sometimes even Slashdot editors taking all of the credit themselves.
Again, I apologize...Please fix the search engine and if you could please try and have some kind of more verbose rejection system for articles that have been already posted or repeated. Thanks
Happy birthday and congrats to the hackers whose labor pains keep giving us new tarballs.
So if producing a Linux kernel feels like childbirth, what do Windows developers feel? Intestinal cramps like someone dumped a whole pack of laxatives into their chocolate shake?
--
"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
Linux maybe 10 today. And Linux may have a loyal following. However Linux has a long way to go before it is as refined as BSD. Or as wide spread (main stream user here) as Mac or Win is.
Today would be a great do to address the sad state of affairs Linux is in.... and if you don't think problem exist well then your just kidding yourself.
or something.
I'm exactly 10 years older than Linux, to the day!
_______
The revolution will be slashdotted
-3Suns
~~~~
The Revolution will be Slashdotted
That was not a goatse link. Haven't you noticed that the new /. puts the domain name in brackets after the link like this?
I went out and purchased the Boxed version of RH 7.1. Yes, I know. Zillions of people say "never buy Linux, just download it" Whatever. The boxed version comes with so much more. Including Loki Games. Not that I care to game much any more, but you know, at least it's an option.
.l.. " That's my fsck you sign for threatening IP trace on my last post. Other than that, have a great Birthday, and get sh*tty!
So I coughed up $79.95 + local tax for it. Happy Birthday Linux!
p.s. IP trace this "
Oh great, I get to share my birthday with a large fluffy penguin... just brilliant :)
As I said earlier today... BBC news is MUCH better than CNN :)
Unfortunately, unless proprietary media formats, such as Winblowz Media Player or DVD CSS, are totaly torpedoed or else supported on Linux, the consumer market will not move en masse away from windows. Sadly, we may lose the home desktop because of this DRM crapola. I say this even though I like Linux and despise Microsoft.
"that's not encryption - it's a new perl script that I'm working on..." - from some Matrix parody
The best thing about GNU/Linux is the people who use it.
- Kenneth W. Melvin
I was going to reply to this message, saying that this is the one point of the entire list which deserves special emphasis. I was a bit surprised to see that someone else has already replied saying it's the only point he did not agree with.
Sure, GNU/Linux people can sometimes be a pain, especially when they disagree with each other. But I always realize that it's only because they care. They care deeply, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Stop worrying about the risks of nuclear power and start worrying about the risks of not using nuclear power.
joining that flood in acknowledging what linux has done for me.
thank you all.
Am I going to get calls from irate people telling me all the bad things my OS has been doing, or am I going to have to keep a careful eye on what all those other similar aged OS's are doing, to make sure they don't get my Linux system into trouble?
But technically speaking, neither is the Windows GUI. (at least in 95/98, I'm guessing it's the same in 2000 however...)
In case you haven't noticed, the GUI is a program called Explorer.exe
You can change it if you like, I think it's the first line in System.ini, or one of the other system text files.
You can change it to a different program though there don't appear to be any out there that actually work very well...
I've seen the odd program that does this to get maximum performance out of games - by not loading the Windows GUI at all and booting straight into the game.
But if you want to talk about the Windows kernel, then like the Linux GUI'S, you have to disregard all of the fancy enhancements to the Windows desktop, by your own arguments.
If you ask me which is the singlemost greatest contribution which the 'linux phenomenon' has provided to mankind, my answer would be the grandiose 'philosophy' which it brought to the masses.
Was non-violence a new idea? No. Hadn't many people practiced it before with great perfection? Yes. Then what made Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi a great person in the whole history of mankind?
It was the way by which he brought the idea into practice and made the masses adopt them.
This is what had happened with Linux also. Aren't there many OS's better than Linux? You can never say "No" with conviction. Aren't there many Unices themselves who can easily overtake Linux in most of the areas which the Linux community boasts as the advantages of Linux? My answer would be "Yes".
But the way in which Linux brought programming to the masses is unparalleled in computing history. No GNU, no BSD could do that. And this phenomenon shall only grow with time, removing all the flaws, and in its endeavour towards perfection, I have no doubt that one day it will surely overtake its rivals.
Linux will have a big place in history like Buddha and Christ - unparalleled, unprecedented.
In an age, when I understood the term of "software" as a "set of packages for word processing, database etc." and looked at that field with contempt for the same reason, Linux gave me intellectual as well as emotional stimulation. And not just for me, but for millions of others also. It was and is for me the embodiment of almost all the good things on earth.
Now that Linux is ten years old, it's time to get rid of that stupid looking fruity-ass penguin mascot! It's so childish: it looks like a Southpark character with Homer Simpson's head used as a template for the penguin's head. It belongs on the same show that has a purple dinosaur, not on a real OS.
In software, 10 years may as well be 1,000. I love Linux like all you other freaks here, and it's tempting to pat 'the community' on the back, but compare this progress to corporate product. It's not even close. Granted, Linux was not originally intended to be for the widespread masses and it probably never will be. For every-day people, it's a toy. Not even a very good toy at that, if it can't accept your sound card/video card/modem/whatever without more work than most people are willing to do.
Linux is 10-year-old technology chasing its tail to produce more 10-year-old technology and that's a problem.
Just say Linux is 10! or maybe wait till next year.. Gawd Im sick of being told for the 100th time on slashdot that Linux is 10 today. Linux is 10 today. Linux is 10 today. Linux is 10 today. Linux is 10 today. Linux is 10 today. Linux is 10 today. Linux is 10 today. Linux is 10 today.
--> Your Wisecrack Here
Signed
.....
Chuck
Happy Birthday Linux, and congratulations to you Linus!!! Best thing ever developped!!!!! I wish you (Linus and Linux) all the best for the future!
Why I like Linux? It's now ten years old, and the newest kernel can still run on nearly ten years old systems!!! Can that do other OS' too????
Have a nice linux party, Andi
wtf...its really not cool nor funny.....
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