Hmm. I figure that something similar will be used (or at least tried) with the national list: "Hello, I'm taking a poll. Would you like to have 3 rooms of carpet cleaned for only $45?"
my grandma signed on for a similar thing offered by the state (MO) before it went national, and it seemed as almost every telemarketer had found a loophole in it.
I realize that you are probably not a lawyer, but can you summarize (or guess at) the loophole they used? I'm wondering if the national list will have a similar vulnerability.
It's probably not because you signed up. I only signed up today (when I saw the reminder that the deadline was near), but I've noticed a marked increase in calls over the last couple of months.
I've especially noticed an increase in those pre-recorded calls, which are illegal where I live (California).
Lots of countries use 'em including many parts of the US. They're cheap, reliable, dificult to corrupt and easy to correct. Heck they even take care of themselves between elections.
This has worked pretty well until recently, when some of the more obnoxious telemarketers have played a pre-recorded spam message into my machine.
I could have sworn it was not legal for them to do this; certain state statutes prevent it.
I live in California, and I'd understood it was illegal as well.
Here's a snippet of what I found on privacyrights.org:
Here are typical scenarios.
* The phone rings. You rush to the phone, expecting a call from a friend. But instead, you're greeted with a canned message offering you a timeshare or a special deal on cell phone service.
* You arrive home after a long day at work and retrieve your voice mail messages, only to hear a long-winded prerecorded spiel pitching you a deal on home siding.
What's wrong with this picture? Did you know that pre-recorded messages are a violation of federal law? And if the telemarketer is a company in California, did you know that all such calls must be introduced with a "live" person asking you if you want to listen to a recorded message?
Both the Utility Consumers' Action Network (UCAN) and the Privacy Rights Clearinghouse have received an increasing number of complaints about pre-recorded sales calls. We are consumer advocacy organizations based in San Diego, working together to make a difference.
UCAN and the PRC are now tracking consumers' complaints about pre-recorded telemarketing calls. If you have received such calls and want to help us, please visit the UCAN web site at the link posted below and fill out a form about each call you receive. With the data that we collect from Southern California consumers, we will work with state legislators and with attorneys to bring legal action against the most abusive telemarketers.
I think I may look for some more authoritative info, but the next time I get one of these I just may go ahead and call the contact number and ask for $25 in return for not reporting them.
Wellbutrin is marketed generically in the US as Bupropion. Dirt cheap compared to the name brand.
Side effects: the worst one I've have is constipation. That can easily be dealt with.
My wife, who is extremely sensitive to meds, was put on it briefly, and she said she began to feel angry all the time. The doctor put her on something else instead.
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He hasn't committed yet (at least, as of last night).
His wife isn't terribly happy about the idea. She's a Kennedy relative and she's got some concern about the Kennedy Curse (assasination).
And Article I, Section 8 of the US Constitution would say: "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to wild Sex;"
Because not everyone who studies programming wants to be a programmer. Many people just want a simple tool to do simple tasks, and don't want to learn structured programming. GOTO's and undeclared variables work great for such people.
BASIC has a very low learning curve, is highly readable for non-programmers, and gives the beginner quick feedback. (OK. The old 2 character variable names didn't exactly add to the readability.)
Even I, after nearly 25 years of programming, still fire up BASIC when I just want to knock out 20 lines of throwaway code.
Stop right there. Seeing as how you are a/. poster, the whole scenario sounds unlikely.
But aside from that, it could be worse. You bring home a girl and the house starts yelling [pasted directly from a spam I got today]
WE sit on opposite sides of the bed waiting for one or the other to make the first move. Tension is high and hormaones are racing. I get up. Startling you a bit and walk over to your side of the bed. I slowly let the evening gown slide from my shoulders to the floor, showing everything for you gaze upon...
Yeah, nothin' like taking it slow on the first date.
I came into this late, so not many/.'ers will see this.
Here is a site I've been watching for a couple of months. This guy is building his own mini-computer using TTL chips.
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OKay, riddle me this: WTF are "points" on a bike?
Ahhh, back in the days...
"Points" are (were?) in the distributor. I assume that motorcycles would have them. They open and close according to the rotation of the rotor (another part of the distributor). Think of it as just a variation on a switch - closed = conduct current; open = no current.
It's been a long time since I've looked, but I think most new vehicles rely on solid state electronics rather than the mechanical stuff, so you may not find points (or even a proper distributor) on a newer engine.
Slashdot was hacked, about a year and a half ago IIRC.
The perps posted a story on the front page ("Slashdot hacked - film at 11" or something like that) and then promptly called the/. admins to tell them how they did it.
I believe the crack they used was a test server that was inadvertently left online.
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Hmm. I figure that something similar will be used (or at least tried) with the national list:
"Hello, I'm taking a poll. Would you like to have 3 rooms of carpet cleaned for only $45?"
my grandma signed on for a similar thing offered by the state (MO) before it went national, and it seemed as almost every telemarketer had found a loophole in it.
I realize that you are probably not a lawyer, but can you summarize (or guess at) the loophole they used? I'm wondering if the national list will have a similar vulnerability.
It's probably not because you signed up. I only signed up today (when I saw the reminder that the deadline was near), but I've noticed a marked increase in calls over the last couple of months.
I've especially noticed an increase in those pre-recorded calls, which are illegal where I live (California).
I like to put my pet subatomic particles in a jar with my anti-particles, and watch them fight.
I'm always having to buy new ones, though.
Yeah, it did - the mighty Slashdotticus Rex.
Lots of countries use 'em including many parts of the US. They're cheap, reliable, dificult to corrupt and easy to correct. Heck they even take care of themselves between elections.
You forgot "Easily disposable".
I already tried it.
The pop-up ads were hell.
So I'm going to be using an Altair 8800 front panel for web surfing, instead.
Here's a snippet of what I found on privacyrights.org:
I think I may look for some more authoritative info, but the next time I get one of these I just may go ahead and call the contact number and ask for $25 in return for not reporting them.
I'll just add my $0.02:
Wellbutrin is marketed generically in the US as Bupropion. Dirt cheap compared to the name brand.
Side effects: the worst one I've have is constipation. That can easily be dealt with.
My wife, who is extremely sensitive to meds, was put on it briefly, and she said she began to feel angry all the time. The doctor put her on something else instead.
He hasn't committed yet (at least, as of last night).
His wife isn't terribly happy about the idea. She's a Kennedy relative and she's got some concern about the Kennedy Curse (assasination).
But you remove both, then you've broken (the first example that pops into mind):because there must either be an overloaded ctor or a default parameter for the ctor.
Dear Guido:
Welcome to California.
Your share of this year's $38 billion deficit is estimated to be approx. $5000.
Thank you.
Maybe since this bozo started using it to title presentations?
It gets over 74000 hits on google.
Don't ya' just love the flexibility of English?
And Article I, Section 8 of the US Constitution would say:
"To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to wild Sex;"
I wonder how many hits are from outside the U.S.
Why?
Because not everyone who studies programming wants to be a programmer. Many people just want a simple tool to do simple tasks, and don't want to learn structured programming. GOTO's and undeclared variables work great for such people.
BASIC has a very low learning curve, is highly readable for non-programmers, and gives the beginner quick feedback. (OK. The old 2 character variable names didn't exactly add to the readability.)
Even I, after nearly 25 years of programming, still fire up BASIC when I just want to knock out 20 lines of throwaway code.
But aside from that, it could be worse. You bring home a girl and the house starts yelling [pasted directly from a spam I got today]Yeah, nothin' like taking it slow on the first date.
I came into this late, so not many /.'ers will see this.
Here is a site I've been watching for a couple of months. This guy is building his own mini-computer using TTL chips.
OKay, riddle me this: WTF are "points" on a bike?
Ahhh, back in the days...
"Points" are (were?) in the distributor. I assume that motorcycles would have them. They open and close according to the rotation of the rotor (another part of the distributor). Think of it as just a variation on a switch - closed = conduct current; open = no current.
It's been a long time since I've looked, but I think most new vehicles rely on solid state electronics rather than the mechanical stuff, so you may not find points (or even a proper distributor) on a newer engine.
Slashdot was hacked, about a year and a half ago IIRC.
/. admins to tell them how they did it.
The perps posted a story on the front page ("Slashdot hacked - film at 11" or something like that) and then promptly called the
I believe the crack they used was a test server that was inadvertently left online.
Well, OK. But who has to analyze the crash dump?
I just wish that in terms of production values: 1) They ditch the catsuit for T'Pol. No real Vulcan would dress like that...it's degrading.
:-)
I agree 100%. I wanna see T'Pol without the catsuit on!
(Sorry, that was just too easy to pass up
Damn that thing's fast.
And it's running... Windows 2000 and Outlook?
How long until we all get to move to the Smoke Ring?
I realize that my post hardly affects your proposal. Your proposition is still very much on the money.
Computer owners need to bear some responsibility. If you can't control it, you should have one. Just like cars and dogs.