He'd borrow his friends car, nothing you could do. I've seen it with my brother, so I am talking from experience.
I'm not saying that discipline isn't necessary, only that uneccessary discipline breeds resentment. A small sharp shock is better than continual mistrust, denial of behavior and control.
God you're a moron. It's not the kid's fault; he doesn't know any better. It's your fault for not doing a better job as a parent.
I don't quite know what you're objecting to, and unless you are trolling. WHAT is his fault? What is my fault? I said I WOULD NOT take away anything from him, that I would listen to him and warn him of consequences. When I respect his wishes, he often does what I suggest. I think you are the "moron" for not reading my post properly.
The notion that young children can make appropriate choices in all situations is absolutely preposterous.
No one said "young children", Oliver is 10. He can think, feel, understand and comprehend what I say to him. He can weigh up my advice and I can tell him why he should/shouldn't do things and often objects but understands why. If I just locked up his t.v it is not giving him the opportunity to choose to disobey, which means HE is making the choice.
As we saw in this story, kids get themselves into trouble that can scar them for life,
This story is a "i want your cash" story, nothing more, and you are a fool to think it really relates to what the parent of my post was talking about in any great sense.
especially if the parents pay as much attention to their kids as you clearly do to yours.
The whole point of my post was that I got my kid to think for themselves; whereby they can ask for as much attention from me as they need. Hopefully, that "thinking for themselves" will include asking for advice, which would not be asked for if I simply controlled. You, sir, are the moron - when has control and restriction EVER helped anyone? You tell a child not to do something they automatically want to do it.
here's a false dichotomy for you. Impose any restrictions on children and they'll end up hooked on heroin? Yeah, you're winning parent of the year.
There are no boundaries, at least as far as the ones you allow him to create himself. You know nothing about people if you think building a big fuck off wall around something is going to stop them from trying to climb over and see whats on the other side. Ask them to build it themselves, and give them the tools and the reason to do it however...
Up until the age of about 11 or 12 children should have no guaranteed privacy in terms of what they say and do, and if they've been used to loving oversight for all of their lives they won't have a problem with this.
Man it's Nazis like you that take a childs trust and piss all over it - I don't care if you are dressing it up in nicey nicey language and giving a couple of half-assed exceptions to your draconian behavior. I give my child the privacy he wants, he respects me and listens to what I say and then he does it too.
I warn him of the consequence, which is all I can do, and if he fucks up then its his fault. He knows he can talk to me if he does, he can talk to me about anything. I'm not going to start taking that freedom away and locking up his television/computer/bike when I dont think its right for him.
Thats called LEARNING. You cannot cotton ball children, or chain them up and make them do what you want. They will just end up resenting you and then before you know it (because they won't tell you) they will be hooked up with some druggy taking herion.
The next thing you'll know, mr/miss, is they're face'll be on the news found dead somewhere.
Googleplex, the computer which controlled the machines, sent two Googlenators back through time. Their mission: to destroy the leader of the human Resistance... Bill Gates. My son...
robot Audio pronunciation of "robot" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rbt, -bt) n.
1. A mechanical device that sometimes resembles a human and is capable of performing a variety of often complex human tasks on command or by being programmed in advance.
2. A machine or device that operates automatically or by remote control.
3. A person who works mechanically without original thought, especially one who responds automatically to the commands of others.
[Czech, from robota, drudgery. See orbh- in Indo-European Roots.]robotic adj.
Word History: Robot is a word that is both a coinage by an individual person and a borrowing. It has been in English since 1923 when the Czech writer Karel apek's play R.U.R. was translated into English and presented in London and New York. R.U.R., published in 1921, is an abbreviation of Rossum's Universal Robots; robot itself comes from Czech robota, "servitude, forced labor," from rab, "slave." The Slavic root behind robota is orb-, from the Indo-European root *orbh-, referring to separation from one's group or passing out of one sphere of ownership into another. This seems to be the sense that binds together its somewhat diverse group of derivatives, which includes Greek orphanos, "orphan," Latin orbus, "orphaned," and German Erbe, "inheritance," in addition to the Slavic word for slave mentioned above. Czech robota is also similar to another German derivative of this root, namely Arbeit, "work" (its Middle High German form arabeit is even more like the Czech word). Arbeit may be descended from a word that meant "slave labor," and later generalized to just "labor."
However most ISPs in the UK provide minimal 512Kbps connections for a basic package without restriction and 1Mb connection restrictions they do have run into the GB range for download/uploads per month.
You still have a good point tho, and its interesting most ISPs do not provide firewall applications/hardware on basic packages like this. The basic user could find he is disconnected without notice for bandwidth overuse with no idea that malware might be the root cause....
Think about how stupid the average person is; now realise half of them are dumber than that.
- George Carlin
47.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
- Steven Wright
How to understand statistics.
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He'd borrow his friends car, nothing you could do. I've seen it with my brother, so I am talking from experience.
I'm not saying that discipline isn't necessary, only that uneccessary discipline breeds resentment. A small sharp shock is better than continual mistrust, denial of behavior and control.
m
doh.. didn't know about that law. I didnt really mean they were nazis, only that it was somewhat heavy handed. I retract the "nazi" statement.
:)
Sorry.
m
God you're a moron. It's not the kid's fault; he doesn't know any better. It's your fault for not doing a better job as a parent.
I don't quite know what you're objecting to, and unless you are trolling. WHAT is his fault? What is my fault? I said I WOULD NOT take away anything from him, that I would listen to him and warn him of consequences. When I respect his wishes, he often does what I suggest. I think you are the "moron" for not reading my post properly.
The notion that young children can make appropriate choices in all situations is absolutely preposterous.
No one said "young children", Oliver is 10. He can think, feel, understand and comprehend what I say to him. He can weigh up my advice and I can tell him why he should/shouldn't do things and often objects but understands why. If I just locked up his t.v it is not giving him the opportunity to choose to disobey, which means HE is making the choice.
As we saw in this story, kids get themselves into trouble that can scar them for life,
This story is a "i want your cash" story, nothing more, and you are a fool to think it really relates to what the parent of my post was talking about in any great sense.
especially if the parents pay as much attention to their kids as you clearly do to yours.
The whole point of my post was that I got my kid to think for themselves; whereby they can ask for as much attention from me as they need. Hopefully, that "thinking for themselves" will include asking for advice, which would not be asked for if I simply controlled. You, sir, are the moron - when has control and restriction EVER helped anyone? You tell a child not to do something they automatically want to do it.
here's a false dichotomy for you. Impose any restrictions on children and they'll end up hooked on heroin? Yeah, you're winning parent of the year.
There are no boundaries, at least as far as the ones you allow him to create himself. You know nothing about people if you think building a big fuck off wall around something is going to stop them from trying to climb over and see whats on the other side. Ask them to build it themselves, and give them the tools and the reason to do it however...
That would make him -14 when he joined Microsoft.
Man, the foetuses are getting younger these days...
Up until the age of about 11 or 12 children should have no guaranteed privacy in terms of what they say and do, and if they've been used to loving oversight for all of their lives they won't have a problem with this.
Man it's Nazis like you that take a childs trust and piss all over it - I don't care if you are dressing it up in nicey nicey language and giving a couple of half-assed exceptions to your draconian behavior. I give my child the privacy he wants, he respects me and listens to what I say and then he does it too.
I warn him of the consequence, which is all I can do, and if he fucks up then its his fault. He knows he can talk to me if he does, he can talk to me about anything. I'm not going to start taking that freedom away and locking up his television/computer/bike when I dont think its right for him.
Thats called LEARNING. You cannot cotton ball children, or chain them up and make them do what you want. They will just end up resenting you and then before you know it (because they won't tell you) they will be hooked up with some druggy taking herion.
The next thing you'll know, mr/miss, is they're face'll be on the news found dead somewhere.
Good luck, you're going to need it.
[DISSOLVE TO:
FIRE. SLOW, BOILING, ENORMOUS. FILLING FRAME.
VOICE (Mrs Mary Maxwell Gates)]
Googleplex, the computer which controlled the machines,
sent two Googlenators back through time. Their
mission: to destroy the leader of the human
Resistance... Bill Gates. My son...
Dadadadaa..dadadada..dadadada..
[CUT FADE OUT]
Can you post any links to examples? I'm not being funny, I'd like to see what this guys like.
... but most of slashdot is like that isn't it? You should be used to it by now :)
In fairness you do not know what has gone before. Theo mentions "personal emails" and "previous discussions".
Some people just do not listen unless you threaten them like this. It must've been the last straw..
Oops does that mean when I pushed refresh 1000 times they'll get 1000 emails?
Heheheh.
*clickclickclickclick*
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=robot
robot Audio pronunciation of "robot" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rbt, -bt)
n.
1. A mechanical device that sometimes resembles a human and is capable of performing a variety of often complex human tasks on command or by being programmed in advance.
2. A machine or device that operates automatically or by remote control.
3. A person who works mechanically without original thought, especially one who responds automatically to the commands of others.
[Czech, from robota, drudgery. See orbh- in Indo-European Roots.]robotic adj.
Word History: Robot is a word that is both a coinage by an individual person and a borrowing. It has been in English since 1923 when the Czech writer Karel apek's play R.U.R. was translated into English and presented in London and New York. R.U.R., published in 1921, is an abbreviation of Rossum's Universal Robots; robot itself comes from Czech robota, "servitude, forced labor," from rab, "slave." The Slavic root behind robota is orb-, from the Indo-European root *orbh-, referring to separation from one's group or passing out of one sphere of ownership into another. This seems to be the sense that binds together its somewhat diverse group of derivatives, which includes Greek orphanos, "orphan," Latin orbus, "orphaned," and German Erbe, "inheritance," in addition to the Slavic word for slave mentioned above. Czech robota is also similar to another German derivative of this root, namely Arbeit, "work" (its Middle High German form arabeit is even more like the Czech word). Arbeit may be descended from a word that meant "slave labor," and later generalized to just "labor."
... warm comfortable sheltered sex with some good food afterwards is always one of my main goals in life :)
;)
I just have to try not to get them mixed up, thats all...
Whats wrong with XML goddamnit?
Money has more value than principles.
As a company, they will always chase money. I doubt they will "pull out", the tie in is too strong for them to compete now.
* N.B. Please note that dressing up as a pirate is not really required.
He was joking, its a reference to Monty Python and the Holy Grail's opening credits.
Now, moving to something on topic: Arr we should make 'em eat their own lips.. arr.
who sez we cant use strings? or something smaller?
Well I got my account with btinternet, dropped off their dial up access, and effectively now get 1GB email for free!
:D
Man do I feel like a satisfied customer!!
yes i cannot get 1Mb (16GB cap) in the UK (hastings) because my "phone line doesnt support it". know how you feel. m
That is very insightful...
However most ISPs in the UK provide minimal 512Kbps connections for a basic package without restriction and 1Mb connection restrictions they do have run into the GB range for download/uploads per month.
You still have a good point tho, and its interesting most ISPs do not provide firewall applications/hardware on basic packages like this. The basic user could find he is disconnected without notice for bandwidth overuse with no idea that malware might be the root cause....
Think about how stupid the average person is; now realise half of them are dumber than that. - George Carlin 47.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot. - Steven Wright How to understand statistics.
... unfortunatly coming first in a race for loosers is not winning :(
nice..
All special users link not working....
Guess they weren't all that special eh.
I have opera on my phone for a while now. One word: rubbish.
Mind you, browsing the internet with my 6600 has always been a crap layden, frustrating experience anyway.
And no, there are no adverts.