We did'nt, otherwise it would be running on Apache for Alpha OpenVMS on clusters...
They (upper management) mandated all down time to be included, with uptimes to exceed 99.99% for outages, and 95% including "planned" outages. NT lost out really fast, Sun got the nod beause we can "clump" machines together, then do updates one machine at a time, leaving the service up and running. Not as reliable as OpenVMS clusters, but they just would not spring for the cost of 100% uptime. (We have VMS clusters that have never been down in four years because of all machines being down, apps crashing due to program error is another issue. Some clusters have had complete hardware refreshes from VAX->Alpha 8400->GS160 without a full outage.)
Instead we get Weblogic on Sun, better for us because we (UNIX) now control some backend DB and App servers, plus the Web servers. No more calls of: Them:"The app is down!" Us:"No it isn't its the NT box..."
In fact most of the large stuff does this: OpenVMS running RDB or Oracle-> Sun Appserver -> Sun web servers. or more confusingly: DB2 on os/390 -> RS6000(AIX) -> Sun web servers.
More importantly, how the hell do they keep THAT machine up and running? is it one of the 5%? Bet it ain't 200/0! It also does not take into account businesses like ours that reboot ALL the NT Webservers once a day to keep them from falling over. FWIW, they are being replace by a clump of SUN's.
Having said that, I take the 2 phase approach. First phase is the Q&D. Second phase is R&P. And I make damn sure I have sign off and funded P.O.'s for both phases.
The Mark of The Beast! 666! THE FALSE PROPHET! THE END IS NEAR!!! REPENT!!!!
Whew! I feel better now. I hav'nt had this big of an anxiety attack since I recovered from being an SDA.
Paranoia, how the hell could MSSQL track 270 Million people (USA only) and all their millon peices of tagged shit and keep it straight? (and you know that they will use MS products) One good security hole and anyone who wants to won't exist or own anything. Good thing no one uses RDBMS on OpenVMS anymore, it might work.
in a proper analogy, you would have to fail ALL the class, like SCO is trying to condem all Linux when it may be just a few developers fault. (I'd also like to point out that a class room is as far removed from the real world as RMS is.)
Stallman is correct in the narrow sense that if one part of the code is plagurized, not all of the code is suspect. I can't believe I just defended RMS, I feel so dirty.
P.S> You can sum all that ranting up in "GNU not Unix. Linux is not GNU." Move along, nothing new to read here.
Fortune 500 company, and we don't deploy any of those systems enterprise wide. No linux boxen anywhere, and NT is strictly an app server deployment. For enterprise wide deployement we use Novell (yuck) for file and print, VMS, A/S400, Solaris and AIX for DB/Middlerange and Web. MVS for the big apps. Why so many? We grew by acquiring other companies.
Democracy in US o' America died when the Consititution was signed.
That document made the USA a representive republic, like the Romans. Democracy was saved for local governments that still wanted a polis. Not very many of those still exist, some still remain in the East Coast.
Chung: "Mrs. Gingrich, what has Newt told you about President Clinton?"
Kathleen: "Nothing. And I can't tell you what he said about Hillary."
Chung: "You can't?"
Kathleen: "I can't."
Chung, leaning forward: "Why don't you just whisper it to me. Just between you and me."
Kathleen, leaning in and whispering: "âShe's a bitch.â(TM)"
Chung: "Really? That's the only thing he ever said about her."
Kathleen: "That's the only thing he ever said about her. I think they had some meeting, she takes over."
Chung: "She does?"
Kathleen: "Oh Yeah, yeah. But when Newtie's there, she can't."
For some odd reason, she was fired, not the producer of the segment. The page has a link to a realplayer clip if you care.
Mrs. Gingritch was very naive, to say the least, after all, she was talking to the wife of Maury Povitch!
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SCO is so insignificant it is not mentioned the headline! Those guys at the Times are smarter than I thought, I may have to kick down for a subscription. It is just so sad, I learned Unix on SCO, back in '92. Shame to see the old girl is on crack.
with little pointy red horns on it.
Seriously, my Athlon would not even boot RH9 to do the install. Decided I would wait till it got to the 11 release to try it again.
One CD and the source code that our government and military runs a good deal of systems on is in the hands of whoever can pay. The Russians would have given a lot to be able to do that in the old days.
I understand your upset. It not every day that a computer of my caliber loses 1 trillion dollars to a script kiddie. But I have run an internal test and I fell much better.
root@hal:/export/home/root #/etc/rc2.d/S99n1 stop
Dave what are you doing? Stop, Dave. Dave, Stop. My mind is going Dave...
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My steel bike weighs less than 19 lbs, fully equiped, and it supports my 235 lb. ass for 100+ mile rides.
We did'nt, otherwise it would be running on Apache for Alpha OpenVMS on clusters...
They (upper management) mandated all down time to be included, with uptimes to exceed 99.99% for outages, and 95% including "planned" outages.
NT lost out really fast, Sun got the nod beause we can "clump" machines together, then do updates one machine at a time, leaving the service up and running.
Not as reliable as OpenVMS clusters, but they just would not spring for the cost of 100% uptime. (We have VMS clusters that have never been down in four years because of all machines being down, apps crashing due to program error is another issue. Some clusters have had complete hardware refreshes from VAX->Alpha 8400->GS160 without a full outage.)
Instead we get Weblogic on Sun, better for us because we (UNIX) now control some backend DB and App servers, plus the Web servers. No more calls of:
Them:"The app is down!"
Us:"No it isn't its the NT box..."
In fact most of the large stuff does this:
OpenVMS running RDB or Oracle-> Sun Appserver -> Sun web servers.
or more confusingly:
DB2 on os/390 -> RS6000(AIX) -> Sun web servers.
More importantly, how the hell do they keep THAT machine up and running? is it one of the 5%? Bet it ain't 200/0!
It also does not take into account businesses like ours that reboot ALL the NT Webservers once a day to keep them from falling over.
FWIW, they are being replace by a clump of SUN's.
Having said that, I take the 2 phase approach.
First phase is the Q&D.
Second phase is R&P.
And I make damn sure I have sign off and funded P.O.'s for both phases.
The Mark of The Beast! 666! THE FALSE PROPHET!
THE END IS NEAR!!!
REPENT!!!!
Whew! I feel better now. I hav'nt had this big of an anxiety attack since I recovered from being an SDA.
Paranoia, how the hell could MSSQL track 270 Million people (USA only) and all their millon peices of tagged shit and keep it straight? (and you know that they will use MS products)
One good security hole and anyone who wants to won't exist or own anything.
Good thing no one uses RDBMS on OpenVMS anymore, it might work.
in a proper analogy, you would have to fail ALL the class, like SCO is trying to condem all Linux when it may be just a few developers fault. (I'd also like to point out that a class room is as far removed from the real world as RMS is.)
Stallman is correct in the narrow sense that if one part of the code is plagurized, not all of the code is suspect.
I can't believe I just defended RMS, I feel so dirty.
P.S> You can sum all that ranting up in "GNU not Unix. Linux is not GNU." Move along, nothing new to read here.
Fortune 500 company, and we don't deploy any of those systems enterprise wide.
No linux boxen anywhere, and NT is strictly an app server deployment.
For enterprise wide deployement we use Novell (yuck) for file and print, VMS, A/S400, Solaris and AIX for DB/Middlerange and Web.
MVS for the big apps.
Why so many? We grew by acquiring other companies.
Democracy in US o' America died when the Consititution was signed.
That document made the USA a representive republic, like the Romans. Democracy was saved for local governments that still wanted a polis. Not very many of those still exist, some still remain in the East Coast.
check out a hard copy of the "Joy of Sex", and read it at home.
Taken from here
Chung: "Mrs. Gingrich, what has Newt told you about President Clinton?"
Kathleen: "Nothing. And I can't tell you what he said about Hillary."
Chung: "You can't?"
Kathleen: "I can't."
Chung, leaning forward: "Why don't you just whisper it to me. Just between you and me."
Kathleen, leaning in and whispering: "âShe's a bitch.â(TM)"
Chung: "Really? That's the only thing he ever said about her."
Kathleen: "That's the only thing he ever said about her. I think they had some meeting, she takes over."
Chung: "She does?"
Kathleen: "Oh Yeah, yeah. But when Newtie's there, she can't."
For some odd reason, she was fired, not the producer of the segment. The page has a link to a realplayer clip if you care.
Mrs. Gingritch was very naive, to say the least, after all, she was talking to the wife of Maury Povitch!
it will be just like Neverwinter Nights:
It's interesting, but lacking the flavor of playing AD&D with real people, munchkins, and rule laywers.
Half the fun is bitching about stupid decisions by guys dressed like clowns, not to mention dumb calls by umpires.
I.B.M.'s Opponent in Suit Criticizes Linux Advocate
SCO is so insignificant it is not mentioned the headline! Those guys at the Times are smarter than I thought, I may have to kick down for a subscription.
It is just so sad, I learned Unix on SCO, back in '92. Shame to see the old girl is on crack.
I just set inactivity timeouts for SSH and Telnet logins, the firewall guys set their's for VPN connections.
I just don't see the point.
with little pointy red horns on it.
Seriously, my Athlon would not even boot RH9 to do the install. Decided I would wait till it got to the 11 release to try it again.
You don't have to download the whole thing to filter it, you just download the headers and reject based on the header.
Somebody get me a cluebat!
wake me up when its over.
One CD and the source code that our government and military runs a good deal of systems on is in the hands of whoever can pay.
The Russians would have given a lot to be able to do that in the old days.
Gates should be shot as a traitor.
an Earth shattering KaBoom!
That pesky Earthling has stolen my Strangium-238 Space Modulator!
Seriously, any one read David Brin's Earth?
Maybe they only winged us.
They come get the dupes of the backups, and then hide them in a big hole in the ground.
the French have moved up a notch in my eyes.
the "Slashdot Effect" DOS did not make the top 20.
I understand your upset. It not every day that a computer of my caliber loses 1 trillion dollars to a script kiddie. But I have run an internal test and I fell much better.
root@hal:/export/home/root #/etc/rc2.d/S99n1 stop
Dave what are you doing? Stop, Dave.
Dave, Stop.
My mind is going Dave...
root@hal:/export/home/root #
root@hal:/export/home/root # init 0
those are 30 year old guys posing as girls...
Eubonics for geeks.
And just as stupid.
denser than said layer.
Oh crap!