In my opinion that is the very problem. Parents don't care and they should! It infuriates me how so many parents today don't take an interest in what their children are doing or learning. If you want to know what causes kids to lose hope these days that would be my first guess. I mean if your own parents don't find you interesting then who will?
It looks to me like the proposed legislation would not make it illegal for the minor to OWN said program merely prevent them from PURCHASING it without their parents permission. I kinda want parents to be involved in what their kids are doing instead of out partying while junior is planning the biggest thing since Columbine. Children are just that, CHILDREN. Just because Johnny knows how to shoot his daddy's gun does not mean he is responsible or mature enough to use it without supervision. Having said that, I have to admit I really enjoy a good game of GTA3. There's nothing like whacking pixel generated people to relieve stress.
Alot of posts point out that the RealPlayer does many of the "Questionable" things MS is so famous for. This is no coincidence. Rob Glaser, founder and CEO of Real, was a MS employee in their multimedia division (such as it was at the time). I read about him in 1995 when Real first launched and how he had a vision to bring multimedia into the Internet mainstream but MS evidently hadn't yet caught the vision. Apparantly Rob knew once MS did get "The Vision" he would have a fierce fight on his hands. Because he had worked for MS for so many years he knew pretty much what to expect and put many wheels into motion to keep Real alive during the fight. Whether it was enough is up for debate but one thing is for sure. What that is I have no idea.
But with all the fuss here and on a couple of other sites I am finding it hard not to scratch the itch to go over to flowgo and see what all the fuss is about. Somebody hold me back!....HTTP://www.flogo.c....
Initially most people will resist the new technology because people are inherently averse to changes in general. But wait! What if we offer people something they couldn't possible pass up? Something so good they we be beating down our door to get these things. Think it's not possible? When a bank in South Africa (I will continue to try and identify the bank. Any help appreciated) decided to switch to Smart Cards over 10 years ago. They offered FREE transactions for the first month to anyone who adopted the cards. Needless to say the cards were enthusiastically adopted by the masses and the bank won over countless new customers in the process. If they did something like that here I'd get one. Then I would go get that new Ferrari I've got my eye on.
In the recent story about AOL BETA testing Gecko I fleshed out some of the particualrs of the history behind the AOL/MS contract here. The contract ended somewhere in Y2K.
After reading the posts on this topic I decided A little history lesson was needed to understand why AOL is doing this. WAY back in 1995 AOL approached Netscape and offered to design and support the Netscape portal netscape.com and in return AOL would use the Netscape browser in it's client software. Netscape laughed at them and said running a portal was easy and anybody could do it. Netscape WAS interested in getting their browser into the AOL client so they began negotiations. Meanwhile AOL decided to begin secretly negotiating with Microsoft to use IE. At the time IE was doing poorly and wasn't making much headway against Netscape so Microsoft rolled out the red carpet for AOL. They supplied API's tools and whatever else AOL wanted to make IE work with their client. Netscape finally came to an agreement with AOL to include AOL IM with the Netscape browser. The same day AOL announced their partnership with Microsoft to use IE in their client. This did not sit well with either MS nor Netscape. The inclusion of IE in the AOL client tipped the scales for IE and topled Netscapes browser dominance almost overnight. Netscape folds and gets bought by AOL. MS has a 5 year deal to have IE included in the AOL client (1995-2000). After the contract expires MS and AOL negotiate as to whether AOL will continue to use IE. MS, however, now has a new toy called MSN network and AOL doesn't like it at all. MS doesn't want to let AOL get installed automatically with every new copy of XP. They fight and argue and both go home angry. AOL decides that it is time to get a return on investment of Netscape. Netscape is almost ready and has been steadily improving the last year. BAM! AOL switches and now IE's share of the browser market drops over 30% BTW, AOL/Time Warner owns some of the biggest properties on or off the net. You don't think they will make sure those sites are compliant?
If they wanted to make it really useful they would provide a recharge unit. I know Motorola has a prototype FC for their phones that has a fuel reservoir and a water reservoir. As the fuel gets spent it turns to water. When you hook up your phone to a charger the FC membrane reverses and turns the water back into whatever fuel it was before. Looks like they want you to have to buy their pre-charged units so they can keep making money.
"(AOL-TW-Microsoft-Oracle-KrogerCorp: All your neeeds. Period. If we don't make it, you don't need it. Sit, and Vegitate.) "
This reminds me of a great nation some years back...... what was it called again?....Ah yes, I believe it was Rome. Except they called it bread and circuses
As I recall the DoJ's case focused on particular activities. The one that comes to mind is when Compaq made the decision to preinstall Netscape on their Presario systems and add an icon to said browser on the desktop. That SEEMS harmless enough except M$ wants IE to catch on. So M$ sends Compaq a little letter to the effect [Dear Compaq, since you are putting Netscape on the desktop we are revoking your OEM status in 30 days. Please make arrangements with the VAR of your choice for further licensing of our product. M$] Now technically this is legal and M$ has every right to do this. Where it becomes a monopoly issue is that Compaq now has no option to install. Linux is not ready for the desktop (in 1995 it really wasn't) and even if it were your not going to find a large corporation willing to do without M$ win9x/NT etc. So, since there are no "viable" (that's the key here) alternatives M$'s actions become blatantly monopolistic. If there were more than one company that distributed the latest version of Windows then Compaq could just say "OK, we'll buy Windows from Macrosoft or Microhard". Compaq could have bought their licenses through a VAR like everybody else at retail, yes, but that would have made every unit they sold much more expensive. If the plaintiffs stick to the original argument I don't see how they can be denied. "If the monopoly fits you must not acquit!!!"
I think you are onto something. It will sorta be water cooled. Or actually the water will be CPU heated. They are gonna keep the same plastics but the part where the CRT is now will be a spot for your pet goldfish. Just don't go in and start overclocking your CPU or you'll end up with fish for dinner.
Many of the comments posted make the connection of generating electricity from the heat that the CPU produces, However, the heat being produced is actually caused because of inefficiencies in transistor switching. So if transistors became more efficient they would would waste less electricity and generate less heat thus needing less electricity leading to less heat leading to needing less electricity until we are actually generating electricity from the lack of heat.
Many of the posts alude to the potential of a hindenburg type explosion on a plane that used such a fuel cell system because of the Hydrogen involved. According to the article Boeing is looking at using fuel cells but it doesn't specifically mention hydrogen fuel cells except to say one was seen used in an automotive demonstration. There are many different types of fuel cells http://www.fuelcells.org/fctypes.htm each having it's pros and cons. I do see a move to "alternative" types of fuel but, as always, economics will drive the shift as much as anything else. Right now energy companies are scrambling to figure out how to profit long term on systems that are so efficient. Anyone old enough to remember when an automobile wouldn't go over 75,000-100,000 miles without a MAJOR overhaul? It wasn't because they couldn't be more reliable but becaue the big 3 made $$$ off of the repair parts as well as new car sales. If the Japanese companies hadn't offered more efficient/reliable products in the 70's we might still be seeing the trend.
OK, I think I sufficiently wandered off topic
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There is one thing I think you overlooked in your analysis. You correctly point out the maximum BURST transfer rate of an ATA 100 drive is 100 MB/s. The key is the word BURST versus SUSTAINED. I'm not sure what the sustained MB/s is for an ATA 100 drive but I know the ATA 60 drives had a theoretical maximum sustained transfer rate of about 25-30 MB/s. I would suspect the ATA 100 drives are about 40-50 MB/s. At that rate the IEEE 1394 bus would appear to be able to handle most sustained drive transfers. Provided you don't have anything else on the bus. As always YMMV.
I have been thinking about this for a while. Many people say the PC is too complicated for the average gaming console and I would tend to agree. But what about a plugin console? Here's what I mean. A company would develop a PCI card that had it's own BIOS/OS. The BIOS would handle basic boot-up and have a generic IDE controller for the CD/DVD ROM drive. The OS would handle the rest. I know there would be issues with drivers for different devices but I think they could be easily addressed if the OS used is one that already has many drivers written for PC devices. (Linux maybe:) Once the card is installed and any drivers are setup the PC would boot directly from the plugin BIOS and play whatever game is inserted in the CD/DVD ROM drive. Maybe it would be more trouble than it's worth but I would love to find something useful for my spare Pentium 200MHz boxes to do. (You only need so many firewalls/mp3 servers) I'm writing my Nintendo rep TODAY!!!
Because I can't afford to own both a laptop for working out of the house/office AND a cutting edge gaming machine for those all night CTF sessions. I can,however, afford a docking station for my laptop. The problem has been getting fragged before I even know I'm being targetted because my mobile Cirrus Logic chipset only gets 2FPS even when docked because the chipset was never designed for 3D gaming. At least with a mobile Geforce 3 it can turn down the heat/drain when running off of battery and turn on the juice when I'm docked. Best of both worlds.
As I understood the article. The way the laws are written require that an open source version of a product be given preference to a closed source. It does not say "You must Use Linux over Microsoft" or for that matter Linux over FreeBSD/NETBSD/FlavoroftheweekBSD or any other open source os. If you look at it carefully you wil see that the main purpose appears to be financial as well as security.
SOFTWARE LIBRE!!!!
It is no secret that Houston REALLY wants the 2012 Olympic games. To that end former mayor Bob Lanier and current mayor Lee Brown have been "steering" the Houston community to improve it's image world wide. For the last 15 years or so Houstonians (myself included) have watched project after project initiated all the while scratching our heads as to what the city is thinking. The current lite rail project that spans from downtown to the "Medical centers" IMHO actually spans from Downtown to the newly rebranded Reliant Park which just happens to be next to the Medical center. This current announcement is probably just another project to get world wide publicity (Which, to be honest, Houston will need to get the Olympics). Houston has had free internet access in Libraries for years. The only thing new here is offering to give Houstonians a yournamehere@Houston.Texas.com email address. It's about city pride which is important to the Olympic oversight commitee. If people are proud to have and email address then they support their city and that looks good to the world community. This is my opinion and may not in any way reflect the views or opinions of CowBoyNeal or the staff of/.
Actually as I remember it Rod Canion (Spelling) tried to get his employer at the time (Texas Instruments) to sign off on his grand scheme to steal some of the thunder away from IBM by reverse engineering the BIOS an creating this thing called a PC "Clone". TI summarily dissed the idea since they knew there was no $$ in a consumer PC (Just look how poorly their TI 99-4A did) so Rod set about to do it himself (With $$ borrowed from the TI CU) in his garage. He created this company with a really funny name (Compaq) and then found someone to reverse engineer an IBM PC machines BIOS. Once the person was finished creating a Spec for the BIOS he was paid and sent on his way. Compaq then just used the Spec they had to create a BIOS that was compatible with IBM's. And that, junior, is how babies are born!
OK, it took me a day to find the link so now nobody is reading this thread anymore. But just in case someone should stumble across it. You can already purchase this little beauty at
http://easybuy2000.com/store/?cat=mp3%20players& su bcat=mpZip
It costs $139 US and includes a set of rechargable batteries, an AC adapter, earphones, and a blank 8cm CD-R to get you started.
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Just send $25 US to me, along with a picture of you and your high score on any video game and I'll send you a Certificate of completion.
For the layers: This is in no way intended to be taken seriously.
In my opinion that is the very problem. Parents don't care and they should! It infuriates me how so many parents today don't take an interest in what their children are doing or learning. If you want to know what causes kids to lose hope these days that would be my first guess. I mean if your own parents don't find you interesting then who will?
It looks to me like the proposed legislation would not make it illegal for the minor to OWN said program merely prevent them from PURCHASING it without their parents permission. I kinda want parents to be involved in what their kids are doing instead of out partying while junior is planning the biggest thing since Columbine. Children are just that, CHILDREN. Just because Johnny knows how to shoot his daddy's gun does not mean he is responsible or mature enough to use it without supervision. Having said that, I have to admit I really enjoy a good game of GTA3. There's nothing like whacking pixel generated people to relieve stress.
Alot of posts point out that the RealPlayer does many of the "Questionable" things MS is so famous for. This is no coincidence. Rob Glaser, founder and CEO of Real, was a MS employee in their multimedia division (such as it was at the time). I read about him in 1995 when Real first launched and how he had a vision to bring multimedia into the Internet mainstream but MS evidently hadn't yet caught the vision. Apparantly Rob knew once MS did get "The Vision" he would have a fierce fight on his hands. Because he had worked for MS for so many years he knew pretty much what to expect and put many wheels into motion to keep Real alive during the fight. Whether it was enough is up for debate but one thing is for sure. What that is I have no idea.
Too Late! I got bit by a Gator and an ad for AT&T Wireless.
But with all the fuss here and on a couple of other sites I am finding it hard not to scratch the itch to go over to flowgo and see what all the fuss is about. Somebody hold me back!....HTTP://www.flogo.c....
Initially most people will resist the new technology because people are inherently averse to changes in general. But wait! What if we offer people something they couldn't possible pass up? Something so good they we be beating down our door to get these things. Think it's not possible? When a bank in South Africa (I will continue to try and identify the bank. Any help appreciated) decided to switch to Smart Cards over 10 years ago. They offered FREE transactions for the first month to anyone who adopted the cards. Needless to say the cards were enthusiastically adopted by the masses and the bank won over countless new customers in the process. If they did something like that here I'd get one. Then I would go get that new Ferrari I've got my eye on.
Actually it would be more like CompaQarDell. They'll drop the Hewlett just to spite Walter.
Actually it will soon be called Oasis of Love when Lakewood church leases it.
In the recent story about AOL BETA testing Gecko I fleshed out some of the particualrs of the history behind the AOL/MS contract here. The contract ended somewhere in Y2K.
After reading the posts on this topic I decided A little history lesson was needed to understand why AOL is doing this. WAY back in 1995 AOL approached Netscape and offered to design and support the Netscape portal netscape.com and in return AOL would use the Netscape browser in it's client software. Netscape laughed at them and said running a portal was easy and anybody could do it. Netscape WAS interested in getting their browser into the AOL client so they began negotiations. Meanwhile AOL decided to begin secretly negotiating with Microsoft to use IE. At the time IE was doing poorly and wasn't making much headway against Netscape so Microsoft rolled out the red carpet for AOL. They supplied API's tools and whatever else AOL wanted to make IE work with their client. Netscape finally came to an agreement with AOL to include AOL IM with the Netscape browser. The same day AOL announced their partnership with Microsoft to use IE in their client. This did not sit well with either MS nor Netscape. The inclusion of IE in the AOL client tipped the scales for IE and topled Netscapes browser dominance almost overnight. Netscape folds and gets bought by AOL. MS has a 5 year deal to have IE included in the AOL client (1995-2000). After the contract expires MS and AOL negotiate as to whether AOL will continue to use IE. MS, however, now has a new toy called MSN network and AOL doesn't like it at all. MS doesn't want to let AOL get installed automatically with every new copy of XP. They fight and argue and both go home angry. AOL decides that it is time to get a return on investment of Netscape. Netscape is almost ready and has been steadily improving the last year. BAM! AOL switches and now IE's share of the browser market drops over 30% BTW, AOL/Time Warner owns some of the biggest properties on or off the net. You don't think they will make sure those sites are compliant?
If they wanted to make it really useful they would provide a recharge unit. I know Motorola has a prototype FC for their phones that has a fuel reservoir and a water reservoir. As the fuel gets spent it turns to water. When you hook up your phone to a charger the FC membrane reverses and turns the water back into whatever fuel it was before. Looks like they want you to have to buy their pre-charged units so they can keep making money.
"(AOL-TW-Microsoft-Oracle-KrogerCorp: All your neeeds. Period. If we don't make it, you don't need it. Sit, and Vegitate.) "
This reminds me of a great nation some years back...... what was it called again?....Ah yes, I believe it was Rome. Except they called it bread and circuses
As I recall the DoJ's case focused on particular activities. The one that comes to mind is when Compaq made the decision to preinstall Netscape on their Presario systems and add an icon to said browser on the desktop. That SEEMS harmless enough except M$ wants IE to catch on. So M$ sends Compaq a little letter to the effect [Dear Compaq, since you are putting Netscape on the desktop we are revoking your OEM status in 30 days. Please make arrangements with the VAR of your choice for further licensing of our product. M$] Now technically this is legal and M$ has every right to do this. Where it becomes a monopoly issue is that Compaq now has no option to install. Linux is not ready for the desktop (in 1995 it really wasn't) and even if it were your not going to find a large corporation willing to do without M$ win9x/NT etc. So, since there are no "viable" (that's the key here) alternatives M$'s actions become blatantly monopolistic. If there were more than one company that distributed the latest version of Windows then Compaq could just say "OK, we'll buy Windows from Macrosoft or Microhard". Compaq could have bought their licenses through a VAR like everybody else at retail, yes, but that would have made every unit they sold much more expensive. If the plaintiffs stick to the original argument I don't see how they can be denied. "If the monopoly fits you must not acquit!!!"
I think you are onto something. It will sorta be water cooled. Or actually the water will be CPU heated. They are gonna keep the same plastics but the part where the CRT is now will be a spot for your pet goldfish. Just don't go in and start overclocking your CPU or you'll end up with fish for dinner.
Many of the comments posted make the connection of generating electricity from the heat that the CPU produces, However, the heat being produced is actually caused because of inefficiencies in transistor switching. So if transistors became more efficient they would would waste less electricity and generate less heat thus needing less electricity leading to less heat leading to needing less electricity until we are actually generating electricity from the lack of heat.
Many of the posts alude to the potential of a hindenburg type explosion on a plane that used such a fuel cell system because of the Hydrogen involved. According to the article Boeing is looking at using fuel cells but it doesn't specifically mention hydrogen fuel cells except to say one was seen used in an automotive demonstration. There are many different types of fuel cells http://www.fuelcells.org/fctypes.htm each having it's pros and cons. I do see a move to "alternative" types of fuel but, as always, economics will drive the shift as much as anything else. Right now energy companies are scrambling to figure out how to profit long term on systems that are so efficient. Anyone old enough to remember when an automobile wouldn't go over 75,000-100,000 miles without a MAJOR overhaul? It wasn't because they couldn't be more reliable but becaue the big 3 made $$$ off of the repair parts as well as new car sales. If the Japanese companies hadn't offered more efficient/reliable products in the 70's we might still be seeing the trend.
OK, I think I sufficiently wandered off topic
There is one thing I think you overlooked in your analysis. You correctly point out the maximum BURST transfer rate of an ATA 100 drive is 100 MB/s. The key is the word BURST versus SUSTAINED. I'm not sure what the sustained MB/s is for an ATA 100 drive but I know the ATA 60 drives had a theoretical maximum sustained transfer rate of about 25-30 MB/s. I would suspect the ATA 100 drives are about 40-50 MB/s. At that rate the IEEE 1394 bus would appear to be able to handle most sustained drive transfers. Provided you don't have anything else on the bus. As always YMMV.
I have been thinking about this for a while. Many people say the PC is too complicated for the average gaming console and I would tend to agree. But what about a plugin console? Here's what I mean. A company would develop a PCI card that had it's own BIOS/OS. The BIOS would handle basic boot-up and have a generic IDE controller for the CD/DVD ROM drive. The OS would handle the rest. I know there would be issues with drivers for different devices but I think they could be easily addressed if the OS used is one that already has many drivers written for PC devices. (Linux maybe :) Once the card is installed and any drivers are setup the PC would boot directly from the plugin BIOS and play whatever game is inserted in the CD/DVD ROM drive. Maybe it would be more trouble than it's worth but I would love to find something useful for my spare Pentium 200MHz boxes to do. (You only need so many firewalls/mp3 servers) I'm writing my Nintendo rep TODAY!!!
Because I can't afford to own both a laptop for working out of the house/office AND a cutting edge gaming machine for those all night CTF sessions. I can ,however, afford a docking station for my laptop. The problem has been getting fragged before I even know I'm being targetted because my mobile Cirrus Logic chipset only gets 2FPS even when docked because the chipset was never designed for 3D gaming. At least with a mobile Geforce 3 it can turn down the heat/drain when running off of battery and turn on the juice when I'm docked. Best of both worlds.
>>Please, when refering to this, call it the Progeny NOW project, to distinguish it from the NOW project [berkeley.edu].
Which, according to the web site, ended 3 years ago. Does that mean that they now call the project THEN?
As I understood the article. The way the laws are written require that an open source version of a product be given preference to a closed source. It does not say "You must Use Linux over Microsoft" or for that matter Linux over FreeBSD/NETBSD/FlavoroftheweekBSD or any other open source os. If you look at it carefully you wil see that the main purpose appears to be financial as well as security.
SOFTWARE LIBRE!!!!
It is no secret that Houston REALLY wants the 2012 Olympic games. To that end former mayor Bob Lanier and current mayor Lee Brown have been "steering" the Houston community to improve it's image world wide. For the last 15 years or so Houstonians (myself included) have watched project after project initiated all the while scratching our heads as to what the city is thinking. The current lite rail project that spans from downtown to the "Medical centers" IMHO actually spans from Downtown to the newly rebranded Reliant Park which just happens to be next to the Medical center. This current announcement is probably just another project to get world wide publicity (Which, to be honest, Houston will need to get the Olympics). Houston has had free internet access in Libraries for years. The only thing new here is offering to give Houstonians a yournamehere@Houston.Texas.com email address. It's about city pride which is important to the Olympic oversight commitee. If people are proud to have and email address then they support their city and that looks good to the world community. This is my opinion and may not in any way reflect the views or opinions of CowBoyNeal or the staff of /.
Actually as I remember it Rod Canion (Spelling) tried to get his employer at the time (Texas Instruments) to sign off on his grand scheme to steal some of the thunder away from IBM by reverse engineering the BIOS an creating this thing called a PC "Clone". TI summarily dissed the idea since they knew there was no $$ in a consumer PC (Just look how poorly their TI 99-4A did) so Rod set about to do it himself (With $$ borrowed from the TI CU) in his garage. He created this company with a really funny name (Compaq) and then found someone to reverse engineer an IBM PC machines BIOS. Once the person was finished creating a Spec for the BIOS he was paid and sent on his way. Compaq then just used the Spec they had to create a BIOS that was compatible with IBM's. And that, junior, is how babies are born!
OK, it took me a day to find the link so now nobody is reading this thread anymore. But just in case someone should stumble across it. You can already purchase this little beauty at& su bcat=mpZip
http://easybuy2000.com/store/?cat=mp3%20players
It costs $139 US and includes a set of rechargable batteries, an AC adapter, earphones, and a blank 8cm CD-R to get you started.