I have questions though about the users ability to apply meaning attributes to the numerous amounts of content. If the user fails to provide meaningfull attributes the system fails to provide the user with meaningful results. In which case I would judge this system to less user-friendly because the files would be returned in a 1 big lump.
This idea stricks me as an implementation of something similar to the Dublin Core Metadata Initiative except for local content. Wouldn't this project benefit from enabling the user to manage ALL types of information, even remote. It wouldn't be a large stretch of the imagination to take that step.
If anybody is interested how the Dublin Core works in application you might want to check out the Zope CMF(Content Management Framework).
My experience from using Zope's CMF is that the initial learning process of a user using this method of organiztion was slow and bumpy. Although I must point out that my experience with the system was only with using a single implementation, so I'm not making the assertion that an implementation couldn't be designed that could improve the learning curve for users.
I would also like to point out to the people that have said this would ruin Linux that they don't understand exactly what this tool does. Its a means of effeciently catalogging and managing content. Any use of the tool does not restrict the user to that tool alone; it can be used in conjunction with the traditional HFS. The author even says so in the article.
It is. Thats what makes the shots at MS kind of suprising. Call for Help is mostly Windows though. But the Screensaver often have folks on from OSDN. The other day they did a demo of Knoppix and before that they did a demo of GRAMPS.
Dude, what show are you watching. They take shots at MS often. They love Linux.
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well, yeah. Theres nothing wrong with a little product placement. But that was obnocious if it indeed was a product placement.
Come one. Nobody thought it really odd to have an alien going around offering "Toll House Cookies". I can't believe that Im alone on this.
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Toll House Cookies is a registered trademark of Nestle.
So it still could be a shameless plug.
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The shameless shameless repeated plugs for TollHouse cookies was disgraceful.
Sergent: Stand down men Alien: Would you like some TollHouse Cookies Soldier: Mom? Alien: I baked you some Tollhouse cookies
That is the worst plug in the history of TV. An alien offering someone TollHouse cookies. And on top of that they did it repeatedly through the show. I figure they thought they would get people hooked the first so many eposides and then brake out the product placements. No forgivness
I thought the first eposides were great but this last one was awful.
By this gesture MS is acknowledging that the source code is important. Hopefully India is smart enough to see that MS offers the source as a last resort where as Linux offers the source code (plain and simple).
Ahhhh, behold, the ying and the yang of software usability vs seasoned vets. Please, sit back and watch as the come to a crossroads in what we like to call The open source revolution.
Dude, its called making an app more usable, if you don't like it fork.
Im really getting a kick out of how many complaints are posted in this story. You guys are acting as if you are PAYING for this software. Ximian is doing the best they can to make their desktop usable.
I really don't think Miguel and friends are motivated at the prospect of "over throwing the evil empire." Of course you would have to ask them though.
I don't think this project should be considered a counter attack. It should be considered an advancement in open source and nothing more. Just my opinion
The main thought I have with this hole project is to have the kids leave interested in the topic.
SPARK THEIR INTEREST. The most learning they will do is own their own time. Not listening to some teach.
First off, I would leave out the word alternative because by the time they grow up Linux will no longer be the alternative.
The first day be sure and capture their interest. Have a short introduction to the course and then show a movie, Revolution OS would be a good one. Revolution OS does a good job explaining open source, linux etc, without being overly complicated. It will do your job for you except the kids will get to hear it from famous computer geeks.
With the left over 4 days I would be sure to cover the following topics.
Intro to Linux (file hierarchy ie. where to find stuff, mount, ls, rm, rm -rf / )
Intro to desktop (& apps too)
Intro to web serving
Intro to programming. (maybe some python) a simple TCL/TK gui app. Fast and simple and santisifing
I wasn't let go. My job was to begin the workings of a content management system. If I was to complete that before the expiration of my time granted by higher ups there I was to begin a migration to open office.
I guess the reason for them picking me for the position was that they were currently trying to rid themselves of the MS products they had. They knew that I had a working knowledge of alternatives and wasn't a risk of recommending non-open source products to higher ups.
The plan there was to eventaully move to a Linux desktop for all employees. There were to many hang ups for that to ever get accomplished though. To many old school non-techie employees there were to attached to certain applications. That was the major hang up that was the show stopper. Not that Linux didn't have alternatives to their apps. For example, one person wouldn't move away from PhotoShop even though we tried to get her to use the Gimp.
Look at list items 1 and 4. Do they not counterdict eachother? From the way sentence 4 is worded someone may preclude that the inteded meaning is that "one should choose software with strong intellectual property protections."
However, if click on the link and read further the wording is less procise and ambiguous. The point is presented as if to say that software shouldn't be choosen based on licensing. The underlying tone of it is that intellectual property is more important to protect and poor licensing is OK.
My point in all of this is that this organization is nothing more then a front for these compnaies to justify their licensing terms.They are doing this by saying it shouldn't matter how we protect our IP and software decisions shouldn't be based on licensing anyways. WRONG!
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Is there any decent, open source, video recording software for Windows? I can't find any.
According to this the licensing terms of Plan 9 are unacceptable to the GNU Foundation.
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/plan-nine.html
Take it as you will when you decide whether or not to support this project.
Dude, SSN is practically public domain. I have been to 3 colleges and all 3 required SSN as a student number.
I like this guys enthusiasm for open source.
I have questions though about the users ability to apply meaning attributes to the numerous amounts of content. If the user fails to provide meaningfull attributes the system fails to provide the user with meaningful results. In which case I would judge this system to less user-friendly because the files would be returned in a 1 big lump.
This idea stricks me as an implementation of something similar to the Dublin Core Metadata Initiative except for local content. Wouldn't this project benefit from enabling the user to manage ALL types of information, even remote. It wouldn't be a large stretch of the imagination to take that step.
If anybody is interested how the Dublin Core works in application you might want to check out the Zope CMF(Content Management Framework).
My experience from using Zope's CMF is that the initial learning process of a user using this method of organiztion was slow and bumpy. Although I must point out that my experience with the system was only with using a single implementation, so I'm not making the assertion that an implementation couldn't be designed that could improve the learning curve for users.
I would also like to point out to the people that have said this would ruin Linux that they don't understand exactly what this tool does. Its a means of effeciently catalogging and managing content. Any use of the tool does not restrict the user to that tool alone; it can be used in conjunction with the traditional HFS. The author even says so in the article.
You didn't make your point.
You stated that you didn't "see Linux making any significant inroads...."
Then you said because "....writting free software means no revenue".
You can write proprietary software in Linux. Lots of companies do.
that most of you have refused to buy DVD players like I have.
It is. Thats what makes the shots at MS kind of suprising. Call for Help is mostly Windows though. But the Screensaver often have folks on from OSDN. The other day they did a demo of Knoppix and before that they did a demo of GRAMPS.
Dude, what show are you watching. They take shots at MS often. They love Linux.
well, yeah. Theres nothing wrong with a little product placement. But that was obnocious if it indeed was a product placement.
Come one. Nobody thought it really odd to have an alien going around offering "Toll House Cookies". I can't believe that Im alone on this.
Toll House Cookies is a registered trademark of Nestle.
So it still could be a shameless plug.
The shameless shameless repeated plugs for TollHouse cookies was disgraceful.
Sergent: Stand down men
Alien: Would you like some TollHouse Cookies
Soldier: Mom?
Alien: I baked you some Tollhouse cookies
That is the worst plug in the history of TV. An alien offering someone TollHouse cookies. And on top of that they did it repeatedly through the show. I figure they thought they would get people hooked the first so many eposides and then brake out the product placements. No forgivness
I thought the first eposides were great but this last one was awful.
By this gesture MS is acknowledging that the source code is important. Hopefully India is smart enough to see that MS offers the source as a last resort where as Linux offers the source code (plain and simple).
Ahhhh, behold, the ying and the yang of software usability vs seasoned vets. Please, sit back and watch as the come to a crossroads in what we like to call The open source revolution.
Dude, its called making an app more usable, if you don't like it fork.
Im really getting a kick out of how many complaints are posted in this story. You guys are acting as if you are PAYING for this software. Ximian is doing the best they can to make their desktop usable.
I really don't think Miguel and friends are motivated at the prospect of "over throwing the evil empire." Of course you would have to ask them though.
I don't think this project should be considered a counter attack. It should be considered an advancement in open source and nothing more. Just my opinion
Ask for your money back.
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The main thought I have with this hole project is to have the kids leave interested in the topic.
SPARK THEIR INTEREST. The most learning they will do is own their own time. Not listening to some teach.
First off, I would leave out the word alternative because by the time they grow up Linux will no longer be the alternative.
The first day be sure and capture their interest. Have a short introduction to the course and then show a movie, Revolution OS would be a good one. Revolution OS does a good job explaining open source, linux etc, without being overly complicated. It will do your job for you except the kids will get to hear it from famous computer geeks.
With the left over 4 days I would be sure to cover the following topics.
Intro to Linux (file hierarchy ie. where to find stuff, mount, ls, rm, rm -rf / )
Intro to desktop (& apps too)
Intro to web serving
Intro to programming. (maybe some python) a simple TCL/TK gui app. Fast and simple and santisifing
They could of gave the part to Paul Ruben instead.
I wasn't let go. My job was to begin the workings of a content management system. If I was to complete that before the expiration of my time granted by higher ups there I was to begin a migration to open office.
I guess the reason for them picking me for the position was that they were currently trying to rid themselves of the MS products they had. They knew that I had a working knowledge of alternatives and wasn't a risk of recommending non-open source products to higher ups.
The plan there was to eventaully move to a Linux desktop for all employees. There were to many hang ups for that to ever get accomplished though. To many old school non-techie employees there were to attached to certain applications. That was the major hang up that was the show stopper. Not that Linux didn't have alternatives to their apps. For example, one person wouldn't move away from PhotoShop even though we tried to get her to use the Gimp.
I developed a content management system.
Sometime during the last few days at my last job I happened to ask my employer why he hired me. The reason was rather caught me by suprise.
Because I hated Microsoft. Im not kidding. He figured that if I was smart enough to dislike Microsoft that I probably knew what I was talking about.
If you read the preamble on their home page it says.
- Procure software on its merits, not through categorical preferences
- Promote broad availability of government funded research
- Promote interoperability through platform-neutral standards
- Maintain a choice of strong intellectual property protections
Look at list items 1 and 4. Do they not counterdict eachother? From the way sentence 4 is worded someone may preclude that the inteded meaning is that "one should choose software with strong intellectual property protections."However, if click on the link and read further the wording is less procise and ambiguous. The point is presented as if to say that software shouldn't be choosen based on licensing. The underlying tone of it is that intellectual property is more important to protect and poor licensing is OK.
My point in all of this is that this organization is nothing more then a front for these compnaies to justify their licensing terms.They are doing this by saying it shouldn't matter how we protect our IP and software decisions shouldn't be based on licensing anyways. WRONG!
Because theres only 2 of them. Farscape is the worst scifi I have ever seen.
Microsoft doesn't charge for the support. That comes "free".