When I worked for a large ASP (app serv provider) we actually had problems with some servers doing this because of the way IIS was set up (misconfigured).
anyways, I always figured it was a security issue but I never trust anyone so it was never a big deal.
I have seen this particular exploit used a lot by things like comet cursor and other spyware/adware. They always say they are "trusted" from Microsoft. Funny thing is, since Mozilla I haven't seen any of this.
if you do have any info on other ways to do this, I am plenty interested
the way I discussed is not fail safe, its one of those hit or miss things, so its good to use a cheapo 5 gig drive just so you get the affect without damaging a nice 80 gig
if there is a way to get a clean room made that could make this 100% safe, I would welcome a link to a site with details etc.
I only wanted to state that it was possible to do at home, I was not suggesting everyone go out and do this unless you're like me and have a billion spare parts lying around and just don't care.
actually to break the seal on your hard drive, there is a special way . ..
you need a few things
1) saran wrap
2) latex gloves
3) a good box fan
4) a hair net (or hat) and a dust mask (just to keep the drive safe from you)
5) a screw driver to open the drive
go to your bathroom and turn on the shower for about 10 minutes on hot, so there is lots of steam in there
then, take the box fan and blow the steam out of the bathroom, this will catch all the particles of dust that hang in the air and blow them with the steam outside of the bathroom, you then take the top of the drive off and IMMEDIATELY wrap it in the saran wrap.
you can then mod the drives top and then put it back together in the "clean room"
it is not guaranteed to work , but I have seen it done with no issues, you just need to wear the right clothes and be super careful.
I just got a new Kyocera three days ago, and I'll tell ya what, its got the best sound of any cell phone I have ever heard, and the interface is a breeze.
I would highly recommend one, they are much cheaper than many of the other phones out there, and they seem to be better.
I am very happy to see they are getting their PDA phones out. My phone isn't a total PDA conversion, its more of a hybrid with a web browser and 56 k connection, but its still very usefull and I am very happy to have one.
We didn't have the luxury of 2, no . . . we had somewhere between 10 and 20 different versions of operating systems, that is if you include different revisions, etc.
we had everything from SCO to Solaris, to NT 4 to 2k, it was nasty.
The company had bought out a bunch of little ISPs and just threw all their boxes in the racks and made us try and get em all on the network.
Many of these were bought out ISPs and the admins were fired, so of course half of em had no passwords, and a bunch had all kinds of nasty little quirks.
I would say stick with no more than 2 versions at a time, maybe 3.
Different distros have their strong points and weak points, so balance it that way. There is not much of a learning curve unless you have like Solaris and Redhat and BSD in the same building.
Then you start forgetting which system commands work where because you log into em so frequently to do different things.
Its really not an issue of learning curve, its more an issue of annoyance.
the best recommendation I have is to make scripts to do the simplest tasks, that made things so much easier for us in our situation.
I have been following this stuff a lot lately. The FCC director seems to be completely insane in my book.
There was a reason the Bells were broken up, there is a reason IBM was held up in antitrust committees,and Microsoft is yet another example.
If you give someone the power to take advantage of others they will do it. You don't place a steak in front of a dog and expect him not to eat it. The heads of corporations are just rich dogs and the steak is our money.
Think about it, the people the FCC are trusting to be honest are the same people that lie to people before lay offs (Bellsouth, Time Warner), and do underhanded things like prioritize their telephone installers to stop competition in DSL providers, (Ameritech for example). We cannot trust large corporations.
If you don't believe this, you are either on the board of directors of a major corporation, or you are blind.
When will the government stop pandering to the whims of a group of "elite billionaires" and start listening to the constituency?
I guess not until we fire them.
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They had Akira Special Edition play at a theater here recently and it SOLD OUT everynight.
Now how can you beat that?
hmmm lets think.
We will remove the cool motorcycles, the cool explosions, the cool mutations and we will replace them with a "boy meets girl, they fall in love, girl has something bad happen, boy conquers all for love" love story. When you get through with it, it is just Akira in name not the movie.
I guess its not something new, holleywood rewrites things all the time, look how they portray satanists.
Put your phone number in a newspaper, make it cheap, do it once and advertise you will "rate the telemarketers expertise for $1000 a call"
Simply answer the phone, get the pitch, request the address and phone number of the company.
Then, mail them a bill.
Once the bill is mailed, wait two weeks and file a lawsuit suing the company for not meeting a contractual agreement. Keep a copy of the ad handy and you will win in court.
I actually heard about a friend who did this and won. He did it quite often, he got quite a bit of money the first year. Now, he rarely ever gets calls.
I work for one of the largest insurance companies in the world and I can tell you first hand this is how things are going.
Our tech department has to basically "steal" firewall access from other departments just to find out about hot fixes for win 2000, win XP, and old bugs in NT 4.
We have no internet access, our email is monitored very closely, and we are basically hounded over all day.
This is because the insurance company has only about 10 actual employees, the other 70 are temps who are hired because we are cheaper, have less liability and are easily disposed of.
The company is super paranoid about us stealing data, yet the nimrods leave us with floppy drives and FREE FLOPPY disks.
They should get a clue, all this does is slow us down and make it harder to find fixes for common bugs that we need to troubleshoot all day.
If we wanted to steal, we'd just bring floppies in. And of all the people to trust about not downloading stupid viruses, the techs should be number one, not the users that we fix all day.
you can go to here to read the whole story: http://www.tavicat.com/updates.html
this is the voice of Gir and one of the colorists' websites.
good info
I will not comment too much on the whole reason behind it. Ratings, shmatings, the only reason it didn't do better was because it was IMPOSSIBLE to catch.
I had a heck of a time finding a schedule for it, I never saw ads for it, I went to Nicks site and couldn't even find the ZIM website!
I had to use Google to find all my info.
Nick is full of mindless garbage and when zim is gone, I will never watch it, and the kids in the house aren't gonna either.
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somebody has to maintain a system and for securities sake you could never have one or two big automated systems running everything.
that would be a hackers wet dream
I remember a long time ago setting an environment up at home with VNC so I could surf to any web site at work through my web browser.
anyways, it became a hit at work and I ended up with 50 people using my box.
you just have to set the permissions correctly for the directories by using groups
and you can configure kde and gnome to work the way you want
it is a big step to read all the materials, but the manuals really help out.
I have seen this many times.
When I worked for a large ASP (app serv provider) we actually had problems with some servers doing this because of the way IIS was set up (misconfigured).
anyways, I always figured it was a security issue but I never trust anyone so it was never a big deal.
I have seen this particular exploit used a lot by things like comet cursor and other spyware/adware. They always say they are "trusted" from Microsoft. Funny thing is, since Mozilla I haven't seen any of this.
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I had no idea so many people cared . .
if you do have any info on other ways to do this, I am plenty interested
the way I discussed is not fail safe, its one of those hit or miss things, so its good to use a cheapo 5 gig drive just so you get the affect without damaging a nice 80 gig
if there is a way to get a clean room made that could make this 100% safe, I would welcome a link to a site with details etc.
I only wanted to state that it was possible to do at home, I was not suggesting everyone go out and do this unless you're like me and have a billion spare parts lying around and just don't care.
sorry forgot to mention that, I hung a clean sheet over top of the boxfan and just taped it to the door top and to the top of the box fan
actually to break the seal on your hard drive, there is a special way . . .
you need a few things
1) saran wrap
2) latex gloves
3) a good box fan
4) a hair net (or hat) and a dust mask (just to keep the drive safe from you)
5) a screw driver to open the drive
go to your bathroom and turn on the shower for about 10 minutes on hot, so there is lots of steam in there
then, take the box fan and blow the steam out of the bathroom, this will catch all the particles of dust that hang in the air and blow them with the steam outside of the bathroom, you then take the top of the drive off and IMMEDIATELY wrap it in the saran wrap.
you can then mod the drives top and then put it back together in the "clean room"
it is not guaranteed to work , but I have seen it done with no issues, you just need to wear the right clothes and be super careful.
hmmm
well I can say that the insurance company I work for (name withheld) uses SSH.
Also the old ASP I worked for, Interliant (now Interland) uses SSH for stuff.
I can't believe for an instant these managers want something "proven". What are the alternatives? TELNET????
--those are my two cents, fish in the change return for more
this is exactly something I was thinking about doing!
I already have one place to warchalk, and its gonna get bigger as time goes by. YAY, I finally have a reason to buy a nice wi-fi card
hee hee hee
--whats a sig file?-- >:-}
I just got a new Kyocera three days ago, and I'll tell ya what, its got the best sound of any cell phone I have ever heard, and the interface is a breeze.
I would highly recommend one, they are much cheaper than many of the other phones out there, and they seem to be better.
I am very happy to see they are getting their PDA phones out. My phone isn't a total PDA conversion, its more of a hybrid with a web browser and 56 k connection, but its still very usefull and I am very happy to have one.
--those are my two cents anyways
I discussed this with a few friends a long time ago about how cool it would be if we could meet some of the people ehind slashdot kinda like Defcon.
alas, we never thought to post it I guess cause we felt like nobody would give a hoot.
looks like we were wrong
so yeah, organize it, I can guarantee 5 people from ohio!
we had multiple OSes to support.
We didn't have the luxury of 2, no . . . we had somewhere between 10 and 20 different versions of operating systems, that is if you include different revisions, etc.
we had everything from SCO to Solaris, to NT 4 to 2k, it was nasty.
The company had bought out a bunch of little ISPs and just threw all their boxes in the racks and made us try and get em all on the network.
Many of these were bought out ISPs and the admins were fired, so of course half of em had no passwords, and a bunch had all kinds of nasty little quirks.
I would say stick with no more than 2 versions at a time, maybe 3.
Different distros have their strong points and weak points, so balance it that way. There is not much of a learning curve unless you have like Solaris and Redhat and BSD in the same building.
Then you start forgetting which system commands work where because you log into em so frequently to do different things.
Its really not an issue of learning curve, its more an issue of annoyance.
the best recommendation I have is to make scripts to do the simplest tasks, that made things so much easier for us in our situation.
could you explain what part of civics matters to people who take a 50 million dollar bonus when a company is on the verge of going under?
I am completely clueless how this is going to help the industry, Time Warner has already jacked my bill twice this month.
I was considering switching, but the choices are horrible, and now I am going to have less!
I have been following this stuff a lot lately.
The FCC director seems to be completely insane in my book.
There was a reason the Bells were broken up, there is a reason IBM was held up in antitrust committees,and Microsoft is yet another example.
If you give someone the power to take advantage of others they will do it. You don't place a steak in front of a dog and expect him not to eat it. The heads of corporations are just rich dogs and the steak is our money.
Think about it, the people the FCC are trusting to be honest are the same people that lie to people before lay offs (Bellsouth, Time Warner), and do underhanded things like prioritize their telephone installers to stop competition in DSL providers, (Ameritech for example). We cannot trust large corporations.
If you don't believe this, you are either on the board of directors of a major corporation, or you are blind.
When will the government stop pandering to the whims of a group of "elite billionaires" and start listening to the constituency?
I guess not until we fire them.
that is what I was thinking too
heh heh heh
What the hell is holleywood thinking?
They had Akira Special Edition play at a theater here recently and it SOLD OUT everynight.
Now how can you beat that?
hmmm lets think.
We will remove the cool motorcycles, the cool explosions, the cool mutations and we will replace them with a "boy meets girl, they fall in love, girl has something bad happen, boy conquers all for love" love story. When you get through with it, it is just Akira in name not the movie.
I guess its not something new, holleywood rewrites things all the time, look how they portray satanists.
ooops
guess I should have mentioned that you do sue, but not over shakey telemarketing laws, but over real honest to goodness business laws.
>:-o
Put your phone number in a newspaper, make it cheap, do it once and advertise you will "rate the telemarketers expertise for $1000 a call"
Simply answer the phone, get the pitch, request the address and phone number of the company.
Then, mail them a bill.
Once the bill is mailed, wait two weeks and file a lawsuit suing the company for not meeting a contractual agreement. Keep a copy of the ad handy and you will win in court.
I actually heard about a friend who did this and won. He did it quite often, he got quite a bit of money the first year. Now, he rarely ever gets calls.
Might be worth a try.
I work for one of the largest insurance companies in the world and I can tell you first hand this is how things are going.
Our tech department has to basically "steal" firewall access from other departments just to find out about hot fixes for win 2000, win XP, and old bugs in NT 4.
We have no internet access, our email is monitored very closely, and we are basically hounded over all day.
This is because the insurance company has only about 10 actual employees, the other 70 are temps who are hired because we are cheaper, have less liability and are easily disposed of.
The company is super paranoid about us stealing data, yet the nimrods leave us with floppy drives and FREE FLOPPY disks.
They should get a clue, all this does is slow us down and make it harder to find fixes for common bugs that we need to troubleshoot all day.
If we wanted to steal, we'd just bring floppies in. And of all the people to trust about not downloading stupid viruses, the techs should be number one, not the users that we fix all day.
you can go to here to read the whole story: http://www.tavicat.com/updates.html this is the voice of Gir and one of the colorists' websites. good info I will not comment too much on the whole reason behind it. Ratings, shmatings, the only reason it didn't do better was because it was IMPOSSIBLE to catch. I had a heck of a time finding a schedule for it, I never saw ads for it, I went to Nicks site and couldn't even find the ZIM website! I had to use Google to find all my info. Nick is full of mindless garbage and when zim is gone, I will never watch it, and the kids in the house aren't gonna either.