His point isn't that she deserved it. It's that by painting her as a pure innocent and glossing over the fact that she was engaging in some obviously stupid and dangerous behavior does a disservice to the rest of the community. Incident like that should scream to the rest of the kids in the community that hanging out with that kinda of person and that kind of lifestyle can get you hurt or killed. Instead the news/family paints it as a nearly random kidnapping more often than not.
Metroid Prime 1 & 2 Resident Evil 4 The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (and no, i didn't die. But I did have fun, isn't that the point?) Viewtiful Joe 1 & 2 Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem Star Wars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron II F-Zero GX Super Smash Bros. Melee (series) Pikmin 1 & 2 Super Monkey Ball 1 & 2 Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door Mario Kart: Double Dash!! Animal Crossing Ikaruga Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean Star Fox Assault Sega Soccer Slam Mario Power Tennis Mario Golf WarioWare Inc.: Mega Party Game$
And that's just the exclusives or games that didn't hit other consoles for months. They got ports of probably 80%+ of the other major releases (EA sports, Prince of Persia, Soul Calibur, Tony Hawk, BG&E, Splinter Cell, X-men Legends, Spider-Man 2, Lego Star Wars, etc etc etc)
How much am I allowed to harass you in public? Can I really harass you so long as I don't do it with a baseball bat?
See, you undercut your own argument there. Harassment. Different charge, different act, and has nothing to do with this case. Telling a joke to by buddy while waiting in line in a public place is not creating a disterbance unless their is some other mitigating circumstance (I'm physically barring the door while telling the joke, screaming it at the tops of my lungs, etc).
In essence, such a show would be handing out awards to companies
To change that would be a large part of the point of a 'real' game award show. To transforms those who actually make the games people enjoy from faceless, nameless employees into real people with vision, talent, and tenacity who deserve a few moments in the spotlight.
I have never understood this claim. RFC 1032 defined the ORG TLD in this way: "ORG" exists as a parent to subdomains that do not clearly fall within the other top-level domains. This may include technical- support groups, professional societies, or similar organizations. Is there something else that designated the.org TLD as reserved for non-profit purposes?
Simple... because if you were there to generate profit you were a commercial entity as defined by the.com domain definition and should have put your site/network/whatever there.
Please read the article you cite. You did not read the article, or you do not understand English. The article said that one machine had obviously malfunctioned in reporting its totals. They were able to check the machine and determine that Bush got 115 votes on that machine, not 4008 votes on that machine. With its report corrected, the total for the machines together was 365, not 4258. The report on the Ohio vote was about one machine, not two.
As has been pointed out, if one malfunctioned how can you trust the other? Or any of the rest? Yeah, we caught these two errors, since they cast thousands of votes more than were even possible but then how many errors were there that were not stupidly obvious? As the main article we're all talking about says - the scary part is we have no idea and now way to check.
Look. I'm straight, but I am a progressive living in Georgia right now. You can't just uproot yourself because the majority of people that you don't deal with in your home area are a bunch of prejudiced bastards, even if they're prejudiced against you. "Home is where the heart is." People have friends and family that they can't just give up on. Your roots are your family and your friends, and you don't always get to choose them with forethought.
I'm also a straight guy stuck in GA. Even if I wanted to leave, I can't. Why? My wife has a son from her previous marriage. It really, really sucks to live in a place where 3/4ths of the people have lost to idea of seperation of church and state, liberty for all, and officially codified their bigotry into our state constitution but I either live with it or lose one of my sons.
Oh, and since when does one have to be a member of an oppressed group to disdain the oppressors?
> Its too bad the Dems allowed the special interests to introduce that as a crucial issue.
It's too bad the republicans and a handful of the republican dominated states forced the issue by attempting to codify that bigotry into our state and national constititions.
Oh, and maybe i'm misremembering, but I thought 'justice and liberty for all' was supposed to always be one of the most important issues in this country?
Erm... so the "Maybe this will jog your memory." line as Cal goes into the backseat of the car bit from the MST3K movie was intended for all viewers??
Actually, that's a perfect example of how MST was for all ages. For an adult it's a touch of racy/raunchyness but at the same time a kid would simply not get it. I gather from other comments around the net that the Mr. Sinus guys would have gone with a line more akin to "I told you I don't fuck on the first date".
Don't forget the dvd/vhs sales man. MST has a higly rabid fanbase that buys the releases religiously. There arn't enough of us that it's mad cash, but I would put money on each volume moving in the tens of thousands of units.
Their name used to be "Mr. Sinus Theater 3000". When it started to take off they contacted BBi about keeping everything on the up-and-up. BBi looked at the show and decided they didn't want their name associated with the style of humor the Texas guys were doing and asked them to change they name. They dropped the T3k part, but the Brains obviously think that is still too close.
In a vacume, yeah.. it's shakey. Given the previous name, I think BBi is in the right.
I have to say that in this case, I agree that the big corporation is probably in the right.
Just a quick asside here... Best Brains Inc. is currently as far as you can get from a 'big corporation' as you can get. At last count there are literally two employees (Jim Mallon and Barb Tebbin).
remeber he voted for it, he knew what he was voting for
Actually, he probably didn't. Nor did a vast majority of the other members of our government who also voted for it. It was pushed into vote so fast that few even got a good summary from their aids much less any depth. It was passed because everyone was scared shitless of looking soft on terrorism a week after 9/11.
Please know that I will keep your views in mind as I work to generate consensus on this bill, and to pass laws that are good for copyright holders, good for technology, and - most of all - good for consumers.
This line to me contains the crux of one of the biggest problems while the whole discussion. Note that you are only a consumer, over and over again. Not a producer, not a citizen, not a fellow american, not a constituent, hell.. not even a customer. Only a simple a consumer. As long as our the members of our government view us all as simply a gaping maw waiting to buy and wolf-down the products of industry we will not be given equal footing with said industry with regards to drafting legislation.
So do I, honestly. I was very sad to see WebVan go. They saved my keister when I was without a car for a few months and the quality was always primo. Not to mention how awesome it was to have the ice cream not half melt on the way home.
As sort of a side note you are incorrect. We do have the right to break the copyprotection even on something like a DVD. What you cannot to is give or recieve a tool that will assist you in doing so. As long as you, yourself, have the ability to bypass the protections and you make no effort to distribute the knowledge of how to do so you are in the clear.
I'm not sure it is really accurate to say that software has a wholesale price, since the stores do not buy it. It's more of a consignment arrangement, with the software distributors paying the stores to offer the software.
Well... sorta kinda. The software is returnable usually, however the retail stores do indeed pay for it up front. So when a store has 100 copies of say Knights of the Old Republic sitting on the shelf it means they handed over roughyly $4,000 to the distributor and that cash is tied up until the units sell or the distributor allows the returns. After the pieces are returned and double-checked the retail store gets a credit.
[RANT] I really can't understand people who turn off all eye candy, to get a "boost" from 300 fps to 310 fps. I mean, really, no monitor can even display 300 frames per second, so what's the point? Even if you had your refresh rate at 100 Hz (which most el-cheapo CRTs or any expensive LCDs can't even do), that would still mean displaying 1 frame out of 3. You're still only actually seeing 100 fps, not 300 fps. So what's the point in ruining image quality for _zero_ reward? [/RANT]
Because the FPS number that you get at the end of a time demo run is an average. Yeah, getting the average fps up 1% doesn't matter much. However the average really isn't what's important much of the time, it's the minimum. It really doesn't matter that the card pumps out 400fps most of the time if it still drops to 20 three or four times. For some players, particularly highly competative ones, it is much more valuable to make sure the frame rate never ever gets low enough to stutter/lag/feel unnatural than it is to have some extra eye candy. In a happy coincedence that is often the area that is most effected by messing with the super-spiffy high end graphics features.
Just as it isn't up to Valve to decide to make a Mac port of Half-Life,
Actually, that isn't true with Half-Life. While VALVe is only working with a publisher so someone else can handle all of the logistics of printing boxes, getting promo crap to retailers etc. The game is completely self-funded and thus they get to make all the calls completely internally. Some of that power could have been given up in the details of the publishing contract, but given their incredibly strong bargining position at the time, I somehow doubt it.
Good points, and would make for a good discussion, I imagine. However, we're probably getting a bit far afield from to topic of addressing how to fight the abuse of the 'intellectual property' semantic. =)
you mean like when man and wife own the same money, same house... ? it's not uncommon for several entities to own the same item at the same time -- thus, your argument is wrong.
That's all ownership within a legal system. In the fundamental physical sense only one person can truly be in posession of a material object. Even if I say "my wife can have this rock anytime if she asks" and thus claim an abstract ownership she doesn't have the actual object when it's in my pocket.
as to owning ides: you can also be the "one" person to own the idea by being strong (having lots of money and lawyers) and beating to shit anyone who attempts to make use of the idea (it's hard to tell they have it until they make some attempt to use it.) therefore, you may retain control of the item -- which is the basis for 'ownership.'
Nope, in the above case you are controlling usage of the idea, not the idea itself. As you yourself said there isn't really anything you can do until someone attempts to make something out of the idea. Until we have thought police ideas are completely beyond the realm of control. This is why we have [b]copy[/b]right. Because our founding fathers felt that controlling distribution of physical manifestations of ideas would come close enough to provide incentive. The ebooks which have a licence that attempt to prevent you from reading the book aloud point out the aburdity of trying to truly control an idea itself rather than a manifestation thereof.
you're right, ideas, unlike objects, are easy to spread. we don't have star-trek replication technology yet, but it could happen as well. when we own an item, we generally own the right to decide whether or not someone else can have it -- by copy or not. you would consider you have the right to decide if someone can clone you, right? that's because you feel you have the right to control who copies your DNA -- inherently copiable information. it won't hurt you to let someone else have it, now will it? but you're still concerned about it? hmmm.
Well, given only the two extremes of all DNA sequences being ownable and controllable and all DNA sequences being public domain I would actually chose everything being public. The legal ramifications of a clone of myself running around are the only things I, personally, would be concerned about (i.e. my clone committing a crime and thus leaving 'my' DNA everywhere).
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His point isn't that she deserved it. It's that by painting her as a pure innocent and glossing over the fact that she was engaging in some obviously stupid and dangerous behavior does a disservice to the rest of the community. Incident like that should scream to the rest of the kids in the community that hanging out with that kinda of person and that kind of lifestyle can get you hurt or killed. Instead the news/family paints it as a nearly random kidnapping more often than not.
*pulls up GNC release list*
Lesse..
Metroid Prime 1 & 2
Resident Evil 4
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
(and no, i didn't die. But I did have fun, isn't that the point?)
Viewtiful Joe 1 & 2
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem
Star Wars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron II
F-Zero GX
Super Smash Bros. Melee (series)
Pikmin 1 & 2
Super Monkey Ball 1 & 2
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
Animal Crossing
Ikaruga
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures
Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean
Star Fox Assault
Sega Soccer Slam
Mario Power Tennis
Mario Golf
WarioWare Inc.: Mega Party Game$
And that's just the exclusives or games that didn't hit other consoles for months. They got ports of probably 80%+ of the other major releases (EA sports, Prince of Persia, Soul Calibur, Tony Hawk, BG&E, Splinter Cell, X-men Legends, Spider-Man 2, Lego Star Wars, etc etc etc)
How much am I allowed to harass you in public? Can I really harass you so long as I don't do it with a baseball bat?
See, you undercut your own argument there. Harassment. Different charge, different act, and has nothing to do with this case. Telling a joke to by buddy while waiting in line in a public place is not creating a disterbance unless their is some other mitigating circumstance (I'm physically barring the door while telling the joke, screaming it at the tops of my lungs, etc).
In essence, such a show would be handing out awards to companies
To change that would be a large part of the point of a 'real' game award show. To transforms those who actually make the games people enjoy from faceless, nameless employees into real people with vision, talent, and tenacity who deserve a few moments in the spotlight.
I have never understood this claim. RFC 1032 defined the ORG TLD in this way: .org TLD as reserved for non-profit purposes?
.com domain definition and should have put your site/network/whatever there.
"ORG" exists as a parent to subdomains that do not clearly fall within the other top-level domains. This may include technical- support groups, professional societies, or similar organizations.
Is there something else that designated the
Simple... because if you were there to generate profit you were a commercial entity as defined by the
They can max out on copy-protection I don't care. I just hated the inconvenience.
The few days where I had the HL2 box sit 2-feet next to me, and I couldn't install it cause Steam doesn't let me. That was awefully unnecessary.
Flip side of this: Half-life 2 is the only game I have that lets me play without digging out a cd and patches itself while I'm at work.
Please read the article you cite. You did not read the article, or you do not understand English. The article said that one machine had obviously malfunctioned in reporting its totals. They were able to check the machine and determine that Bush got 115 votes on that machine, not 4008 votes on that machine. With its report corrected, the total for the machines together was 365, not 4258. The report on the Ohio vote was about one machine, not two.
As has been pointed out, if one malfunctioned how can you trust the other? Or any of the rest? Yeah, we caught these two errors, since they cast thousands of votes more than were even possible but then how many errors were there that were not stupidly obvious? As the main article we're all talking about says - the scary part is we have no idea and now way to check.
Look. I'm straight, but I am a progressive living in Georgia right now. You can't just uproot yourself because the majority of people that you don't deal with in your home area are a bunch of prejudiced bastards, even if they're prejudiced against you. "Home is where the heart is." People have friends and family that they can't just give up on. Your roots are your family and your friends, and you don't always get to choose them with forethought.
I'm also a straight guy stuck in GA. Even if I wanted to leave, I can't. Why? My wife has a son from her previous marriage. It really, really sucks to live in a place where 3/4ths of the people have lost to idea of seperation of church and state, liberty for all, and officially codified their bigotry into our state constitution but I either live with it or lose one of my sons.
Oh, and since when does one have to be a member of an oppressed group to disdain the oppressors?
> Its too bad the Dems allowed the special interests to introduce that as a crucial issue.
It's too bad the republicans and a handful of the republican dominated states forced the issue by attempting to codify that bigotry into our state and national constititions.
Oh, and maybe i'm misremembering, but I thought 'justice and liberty for all' was supposed to always be one of the most important issues in this country?
Erm... so the "Maybe this will jog your memory." line as Cal goes into the backseat of the car bit from the MST3K movie was intended for all viewers??
Actually, that's a perfect example of how MST was for all ages. For an adult it's a touch of racy/raunchyness but at the same time a kid would simply not get it. I gather from other comments around the net that the Mr. Sinus guys would have gone with a line more akin to "I told you I don't fuck on the first date".
See the difference?
Don't forget the dvd/vhs sales man. MST has a higly rabid fanbase that buys the releases religiously. There arn't enough of us that it's mad cash, but I would put money on each volume moving in the tens of thousands of units.
Repea after me: Read The Article.
Their name used to be "Mr. Sinus Theater 3000". When it started to take off they contacted BBi about keeping everything on the up-and-up. BBi looked at the show and decided they didn't want their name associated with the style of humor the Texas guys were doing and asked them to change they name. They dropped the T3k part, but the Brains obviously think that is still too close.
In a vacume, yeah.. it's shakey. Given the previous name, I think BBi is in the right.
he name unquestionably could cause consumer confusion. They will have a hard time defending this and will likely have to change their name again.
RTFA, man. This is exactly what BBI is asking for.
I have to say that in this case, I agree that the big corporation is probably in the right.
Just a quick asside here... Best Brains Inc. is currently as far as you can get from a 'big corporation' as you can get. At last count there are literally two employees (Jim Mallon and Barb Tebbin).
Hye, assnugget, blind people use the web too. I met my blind wife online.
remeber he voted for it, he knew what he was voting for
Actually, he probably didn't. Nor did a vast majority of the other members of our government who also voted for it. It was pushed into vote so fast that few even got a good summary from their aids much less any depth. It was passed because everyone was scared shitless of looking soft on terrorism a week after 9/11.
Please know that I will keep your views in mind as I work to generate consensus on this bill, and to pass laws that are good for copyright holders, good for technology, and - most of all - good for consumers.
This line to me contains the crux of one of the biggest problems while the whole discussion. Note that you are only a consumer, over and over again. Not a producer, not a citizen, not a fellow american, not a constituent, hell.. not even a customer. Only a simple a consumer. As long as our the members of our government view us all as simply a gaping maw waiting to buy and wolf-down the products of industry we will not be given equal footing with said industry with regards to drafting legislation.
So do I, honestly. I was very sad to see WebVan go. They saved my keister when I was without a car for a few months and the quality was always primo. Not to mention how awesome it was to have the ice cream not half melt on the way home.
As sort of a side note you are incorrect. We do have the right to break the copyprotection even on something like a DVD. What you cannot to is give or recieve a tool that will assist you in doing so. As long as you, yourself, have the ability to bypass the protections and you make no effort to distribute the knowledge of how to do so you are in the clear.
I'm not sure it is really accurate to say that software has a wholesale price, since the stores do not buy it. It's more of a consignment arrangement, with the software distributors paying the stores to offer the software.
Well... sorta kinda. The software is returnable usually, however the retail stores do indeed pay for it up front. So when a store has 100 copies of say Knights of the Old Republic sitting on the shelf it means they handed over roughyly $4,000 to the distributor and that cash is tied up until the units sell or the distributor allows the returns. After the pieces are returned and double-checked the retail store gets a credit.
[RANT]
I really can't understand people who turn off all eye candy, to get a "boost" from 300 fps to 310 fps. I mean, really, no monitor can even display 300 frames per second, so what's the point? Even if you had your refresh rate at 100 Hz (which most el-cheapo CRTs or any expensive LCDs can't even do), that would still mean displaying 1 frame out of 3. You're still only actually seeing 100 fps, not 300 fps. So what's the point in ruining image quality for _zero_ reward?
[/RANT]
Because the FPS number that you get at the end of a time demo run is an average. Yeah, getting the average fps up 1% doesn't matter much. However the average really isn't what's important much of the time, it's the minimum. It really doesn't matter that the card pumps out 400fps most of the time if it still drops to 20 three or four times. For some players, particularly highly competative ones, it is much more valuable to make sure the frame rate never ever gets low enough to stutter/lag/feel unnatural than it is to have some extra eye candy. In a happy coincedence that is often the area that is most effected by messing with the super-spiffy high end graphics features.
Just as it isn't up to Valve to decide to make a Mac port of Half-Life,
Actually, that isn't true with Half-Life. While VALVe is only working with a publisher so someone else can handle all of the logistics of printing boxes, getting promo crap to retailers etc. The game is completely self-funded and thus they get to make all the calls completely internally. Some of that power could have been given up in the details of the publishing contract, but given their incredibly strong bargining position at the time, I somehow doubt it.
Not when you pay your legal team on salary.
Good points, and would make for a good discussion, I imagine. However, we're probably getting a bit far afield from to topic of addressing how to fight the abuse of the 'intellectual property' semantic. =)
you mean like when man and wife own the same money, same house ... ? it's not uncommon for several entities to own the same item at the same time -- thus, your argument is wrong.
That's all ownership within a legal system. In the fundamental physical sense only one person can truly be in posession of a material object. Even if I say "my wife can have this rock anytime if she asks" and thus claim an abstract ownership she doesn't have the actual object when it's in my pocket.
as to owning ides: you can also be the "one" person to own the idea by being strong (having lots of money and lawyers) and beating to shit anyone who attempts to make use of the idea (it's hard to tell they have it until they make some attempt to use it.) therefore, you may retain control of the item -- which is the basis for 'ownership.'
Nope, in the above case you are controlling usage of the idea, not the idea itself. As you yourself said there isn't really anything you can do until someone attempts to make something out of the idea. Until we have thought police ideas are completely beyond the realm of control. This is why we have [b]copy[/b]right. Because our founding fathers felt that controlling distribution of physical manifestations of ideas would come close enough to provide incentive. The ebooks which have a licence that attempt to prevent you from reading the book aloud point out the aburdity of trying to truly control an idea itself rather than a manifestation thereof.
you're right, ideas, unlike objects, are easy to spread. we don't have star-trek replication technology yet, but it could happen as well. when we own an item, we generally own the right to decide whether or not someone else can have it -- by copy or not. you would consider you have the right to decide if someone can clone you, right? that's because you feel you have the right to control who copies your DNA -- inherently copiable information. it won't hurt you to let someone else have it, now will it? but you're still concerned about it? hmmm.
Well, given only the two extremes of all DNA sequences being ownable and controllable and all DNA sequences being public domain I would actually chose everything being public. The legal ramifications of a clone of myself running around are the only things I, personally, would be concerned about (i.e. my clone committing a crime and thus leaving 'my' DNA everywhere).