But just because there aren't women there, doesn't mean there is a good reason for them to be there (other than their own interest in the subject).
In my Psychology classes, there about one man for every twenty girls. Sure, a few guys enjoy psychology, but it seems that women are much more into it. And that's ok. I don't see any reason to start a whole "hey, let's get more men into psychology (or history, or literature, etc)" campaign, just like any other class that is dominated by men.
You just nailed exactly why things wont change for linux:
can do everything a Linux desktop can, but has more software available to purchase for it
The [more dedicated] users of linux only care about one thing: It's free. (And that it's open source, and all that jazz.)
Apple's products are anything but free. Sure, they're considered top-quality, but they also carry around a hefty price. And the majority of their software is not free (in particular: OSX).
OSX for generic x86 (if such a thing is ever releasd) may compete for Windows users, and the odd linux user that was just trying to look cool but gave up. But otherwise, I think the crowd that will get affected most is the warez crowd, because everything is free for them.:-) And all things being equal, they'll probably go with OSX, as long as their latest warezed gamez work on it.
It's an excellent environment once you get it configured the way you like it. It has four MDI modes (like GIMP's every-window-for-itself, or all in one window, and different styles, etc), it has a colour picker (which sooo many web authoring apps lack), it supports dozens and dozens of syntaxes (scripting, programming, markup, etc.) and it's excellent in terms of project organization.
It's made for KDE, though. So you might have to get a few dependencies here and there (- understatement if you don't run KDE). But I feel it's worth it (albeit I DO run KDE).
I use is solely for source editing, but it also has a visual editor. I don't know how competent the visual editor is, but the source editor is excellent. It has autocomplete and all that jazz.
I never really got into vi and emacs and all that, but I think this is much better for the task at hand.
What you say applies to the web as a whole. I find it ridiculous that there is no way to have the server send content to the client without the client first having to ask for it.
Instead of using AJAX or an autorefresh every 10 seconds while awaiting for content, why can't we have something that will just listen until the server decides to send something?
Same thing with RSS. We refresh every x seconds, while we could just be listening indefinitely until we receive something.
Perhaps establish some sort of encryption key upon connecting to the site/RSS, then start listening until you receive a packet with a valid corresponding key (to prevent someone from spoofing an update).
But yeah, I can't wait until such things are possible. Unfortunately, this bandwidth-saving feature probably wont occur until bandwidth doesn't matter anymore.
I wouldn't mind contributing if you get a team going. Doubt I could get into it full-time, but I could write an app or two.
What I was thinking is having a web-based office suite. Have an option to upload a file (eg. word, or open office format), it'll parse it, format it, and load it off the server, displaying it with a nice GUI. It'll let you edit it, save it back to the server, or download it back onto your removable device.
I'm sure millions of people would find this useful. Especially if it could be portable, so other sites can use the software to manage their text-editing needs.
And the technology already exists. For example, the blogger editor has all the formatting you need. Gmail has web-based spell-checking. There are several Word parsers out there (I'm working on a simplified one right now).
I think that would be a very reasonable project, and very useful. Especially if there's a 'convert to PDF' or something feature, too.
Do they even have equivilent to if statements? I forget. It's been since I used batch scripts.
Well, maybe the new shell system microsoft is working on would be somewhat of a valid competitor, but I don't think you can compare windows batch scripts to *nix shell scripts.
And problem with VNC vs SSH: In Linux, your desktop manager could not be working, or you need to install a new device, or recompile the kernel etc, as long as your internet is working. You can do all that. But with VNC, you basically need a fully working installation of Windows before you can use VNC. Which kind of defeats the point, unless it's for simple "oh, how do I do this?" questions.
Sure, Linux can probably do it, but do you really want to spend the next 8 hours walking your friend through downloading and compiling packages, kernel modules, or hunting around for software to accomplish the task?
Although I agree that usually getting things done on linux is a bit more complicated than doing them on windows, I feel must point out one thing: SSH.
It's a blessing to be able to SSH into a friend's computer and fix it up in seconds, instead of spending the next 8 hours telling them "ok, click START, then SETTINGs, CONTROL PANEL... No, not program files... NO---LEFT CLICK! Ok, do you see System? No, not Network, I said SYSTEM!!" etc.
And if they often have to do something complicated, like... Recompiling their kernel or something, for whatever reason. Instead of teaching them the complex steps, you could write a simple shell script for them...
#!/bin/sh make menuconfig && make clean && make && make modules_install && mount/boot && cp/usr/src/linux/arch/x86/boot/bzImage/boot/bzImage && echo "Done! You may reboot now.";
"Sony's actions could, depending on how they do this, hurt Linux if stuff won't run like it does on Windows or OSX.
This could go either way though. If it _does_ run as well (or better) than Windows or OSX, then it will greatly benefit Linux. Or Similarly, if the XBox 360 red-screens, there will be an abundance of ridicule for Windows. Or if the Intel Apple chips are a flop, then OSX (or Apple as a whole) will probably get a bit of negative feel (especially if OSX doesn't work that well ported).
It's all about reputation -- the products don't have to be directly related.
Well, in all technicality, if the job was outsourced from someone, then outsourced back to the same person, then said person would be documenting the person's own code.
Imagine Doom3 without graphics and a Zork like interface:
You are in a large room covered in blood. You can't see anything.
> use flashlight You take out your flashlight which reveals a Revenant. The Revanent runs towards you.
> shoot revenant You can't shoot with a flashlight. The Revenant runs towards you.
> use rocketlauncher You put away your flashlight and take out your rocket launcher. The Revanent runs towards you.
> shoot revenant You shoot a rocket at the Revanent. You miss. The Revenant runs towards you.
> shoot revenant You shoot a rocket at the Revanent. You miss. The Revenant runs towards you. You are hit from behind.
> turn south You turn south. You see a Revanent. The Revanent hits you. You are hit from behind.
> run west You bump into a Revanent. The Revanent hits you. You are hit from the left. You are hit from the right. You are hit from behind. You fall mortally wounded to the ground.
> fuck You cannot use your reproductive organs while dead.
Heh I would very much like to be with you, on the whole "dropping IE" dealie, except that I find it takes more effort to make things cross-compatable with Opera than it does with IE.
A simple DOM-replacement function is all it takes for IE (and putting the 'var's in front of the variables). Opera simply hasn't implimented some javascript/DHTML/CSS features yet.
Perhaps, but P2P (such as BitTorrent) has been a benefit to him nonetheless. Without it, Naruto may have not been discovered by the rest of the world, remained unpopular, and eventually died off. This way, popularity grows, so does his funding to provide said popular service, and the audience continues to grow.
DVDs are nice, but the producers, artists, etc. are also earning themselves a name ("Oh, the guys that made Naruto made this? Nice!"), and many other goodies with the free distribution.
But yeah, I guess, in the end, it does come down to money.:-)
I check my email 288 times a day (that's once every 5 minutes). Or actually, my computer does and alerts me when something comes in. I also check some websites about 24 times a day. Or actually, my RSS aggregator does that. I check my IM messages roughly 86400 times a day. Or actually, my IM client does it for me. When I'm away, I can have my messages and emails forwarded to my cellphone, or I fetch them off my PDA occasionally.
Am I addicted?
I think a better guage for addiction is how much effort one is willing to exert to achieve some sort of menial satisfaction. Or rather, has the satisfaction gotten to the point that it's no longer menial...
Maybe I'm wrong, but, if anything, this article has little to say about addiction. If anything, it's just a testiment that the Internet is a success, but I think that we, here at Slashdot, already knew that.;-)
Slashdot Mirror
Oh god, does that bring back Nethack memories or what...
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Take your pick:I can't tell you how to make them though, you gotta figure it out on your own. >.>
Actually, I second that.
:-)
I wouldn't mind additional notification when a Linux verison is available.
(I really do run solely Linux.)
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But just because there aren't women there, doesn't mean there is a good reason for them to be there (other than their own interest in the subject).
In my Psychology classes, there about one man for every twenty girls. Sure, a few guys enjoy psychology, but it seems that women are much more into it. And that's ok. I don't see any reason to start a whole "hey, let's get more men into psychology (or history, or literature, etc)" campaign, just like any other class that is dominated by men.
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The [more dedicated] users of linux only care about one thing: It's free. (And that it's open source, and all that jazz.)
Apple's products are anything but free. Sure, they're considered top-quality, but they also carry around a hefty price. And the majority of their software is not free (in particular: OSX).
OSX for generic x86 (if such a thing is ever releasd) may compete for Windows users, and the odd linux user that was just trying to look cool but gave up. But otherwise, I think the crowd that will get affected most is the warez crowd, because everything is free for them.
And all things being equal, they'll probably go with OSX, as long as their latest warezed gamez work on it.
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Wait for the "fastest shrinking" list.
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Ah, the story of linux.
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Ooo looks neat, I'll check it out (Quanta is a bit heavy).
Thanks.
- shazow
Heh I think the main factor of your mod-ing is the fact that you kept the yoddage up for as long as you did.
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For some strange reason, everybody thus far decided to suggest numerous windows applications.
Well, I use Quanta Plus (http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/).
It's an excellent environment once you get it configured the way you like it. It has four MDI modes (like GIMP's every-window-for-itself, or all in one window, and different styles, etc), it has a colour picker (which sooo many web authoring apps lack), it supports dozens and dozens of syntaxes (scripting, programming, markup, etc.) and it's excellent in terms of project organization.
It's made for KDE, though. So you might have to get a few dependencies here and there (- understatement if you don't run KDE). But I feel it's worth it (albeit I DO run KDE).
I use is solely for source editing, but it also has a visual editor. I don't know how competent the visual editor is, but the source editor is excellent. It has autocomplete and all that jazz.
I never really got into vi and emacs and all that, but I think this is much better for the task at hand.
- shazow
What you say applies to the web as a whole. I find it ridiculous that there is no way to have the server send content to the client without the client first having to ask for it.
Instead of using AJAX or an autorefresh every 10 seconds while awaiting for content, why can't we have something that will just listen until the server decides to send something?
Same thing with RSS. We refresh every x seconds, while we could just be listening indefinitely until we receive something.
Perhaps establish some sort of encryption key upon connecting to the site/RSS, then start listening until you receive a packet with a valid corresponding key (to prevent someone from spoofing an update).
But yeah, I can't wait until such things are possible. Unfortunately, this bandwidth-saving feature probably wont occur until bandwidth doesn't matter anymore.
- shazow
Yes, they stole all of OUR ideas...
:-)
I'm sure they weren't the first, nor were you.
I had an idea like that a while ago, too.
I wouldn't mind contributing if you get a team going. Doubt I could get into it full-time, but I could write an app or two.
What I was thinking is having a web-based office suite. Have an option to upload a file (eg. word, or open office format), it'll parse it, format it, and load it off the server, displaying it with a nice GUI. It'll let you edit it, save it back to the server, or download it back onto your removable device.
I'm sure millions of people would find this useful. Especially if it could be portable, so other sites can use the software to manage their text-editing needs.
And the technology already exists.
For example, the blogger editor has all the formatting you need. Gmail has web-based spell-checking. There are several Word parsers out there (I'm working on a simplified one right now).
I think that would be a very reasonable project, and very useful. Especially if there's a 'convert to PDF' or something feature, too.
- shazow
Sounds possible to me.
Take in input, relay via AJAX, get response, display, repeat.
Although might not be 100% secure though.
- shazow
Or just have a game open for you, and goatse for everyone else. Or the other way around, whichever way you swing.
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Heh batch scripts... Good times.
Do they even have equivilent to if statements? I forget. It's been since I used batch scripts.
Well, maybe the new shell system microsoft is working on would be somewhat of a valid competitor, but I don't think you can compare windows batch scripts to *nix shell scripts.
And problem with VNC vs SSH: In Linux, your desktop manager could not be working, or you need to install a new device, or recompile the kernel etc, as long as your internet is working. You can do all that. But with VNC, you basically need a fully working installation of Windows before you can use VNC. Which kind of defeats the point, unless it's for simple "oh, how do I do this?" questions.
- shazow
Although I agree that usually getting things done on linux is a bit more complicated than doing them on windows, I feel must point out one thing:
SSH.
It's a blessing to be able to SSH into a friend's computer and fix it up in seconds, instead of spending the next 8 hours telling them "ok, click START, then SETTINGs, CONTROL PANEL... No, not program files... NO---LEFT CLICK! Ok, do you see System? No, not Network, I said SYSTEM!!" etc.
And if they often have to do something complicated, like... Recompiling their kernel or something, for whatever reason. Instead of teaching them the complex steps, you could write a simple shell script for them...
#!/bin/sh
make menuconfig && make clean && make && make modules_install && mount
Or something.
Well, you get the idea.
Linux clearly has its strengths.
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Or Similarly, if the XBox 360 red-screens, there will be an abundance of ridicule for Windows.
Or if the Intel Apple chips are a flop, then OSX (or Apple as a whole) will probably get a bit of negative feel (especially if OSX doesn't work that well ported).
It's all about reputation -- the products don't have to be directly related.
- shazow
Well, in all technicality, if the job was outsourced from someone, then outsourced back to the same person, then said person would be documenting the person's own code.
:-)
Joy indeed.
- shazow
Give it 4~5 years 'till it gets to us.
Once you realize that they don't think, their behavior becomes trivial.
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Heh I would very much like to be with you, on the whole "dropping IE" dealie, except that I find it takes more effort to make things cross-compatable with Opera than it does with IE.
A simple DOM-replacement function is all it takes for IE (and putting the 'var's in front of the variables). Opera simply hasn't implimented some javascript/DHTML/CSS features yet.
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Perhaps, but P2P (such as BitTorrent) has been a benefit to him nonetheless. Without it, Naruto may have not been discovered by the rest of the world, remained unpopular, and eventually died off. This way, popularity grows, so does his funding to provide said popular service, and the audience continues to grow.
:-)
DVDs are nice, but the producers, artists, etc. are also earning themselves a name ("Oh, the guys that made Naruto made this? Nice!"), and many other goodies with the free distribution.
But yeah, I guess, in the end, it does come down to money.
- shazow
I check my email 288 times a day (that's once every 5 minutes). Or actually, my computer does and alerts me when something comes in. I also check some websites about 24 times a day. Or actually, my RSS aggregator does that. I check my IM messages roughly 86400 times a day. Or actually, my IM client does it for me. When I'm away, I can have my messages and emails forwarded to my cellphone, or I fetch them off my PDA occasionally.
;-)
Am I addicted?
I think a better guage for addiction is how much effort one is willing to exert to achieve some sort of menial satisfaction. Or rather, has the satisfaction gotten to the point that it's no longer menial...
Maybe I'm wrong, but, if anything, this article has little to say about addiction. If anything, it's just a testiment that the Internet is a success, but I think that we, here at Slashdot, already knew that.
- shazow
Or you can just tell them yourself:
t .py
http://www.google.com/support/fusionph/bin/reques
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