However I think most network professionals are more concerned with keeping their network secure than "beautiful interfaces."
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"The service already has six customers but, as with most such services, they are not keen for their names to be made public."
Because they're idiots, that's why.
It is quite possible to do wireless without opening up your entire company network. Just like it's possible to NT networking securely.
The problem is for the most part there are idiots in control of the corporate IT that have impressive MS certifications after their names but don't know diddly squat. This quote:
"It needs a beautiful user interface," he said.
proves it and let's us know who they plan on selling to.
And just what is it they plan to do when they get people logged into their honey pot? Call the police? Oh man please.
The problem is there are all sorts of free resources that provide whatever it is the TPJ hopes to provide. What the people who hope to keep the TPJ alive need to ask themselves is "what are we going to provide that isn't already available for free."
Yes, one day the party will end and you will have to pay for information of value on the 'net. However that day is quite far away and I suspect the TPJ will in fact... die.
It was good while it lasted.
Stay tuned; I expect we'll see "RIP TPJ" here on slashdot shortly.
If you don't have a portable AM/FM radio, or even better a shortwave receiver, then get one TODAY. Get some spare battteries for it as well.
The simple fact is if you want to hear what's going on during a "major event" radio is the best way to do it. And you have evacuate in a hurry, you sure as hell aren't going to be taking your 60" flat screen TV with you. You want pictures, wait for the evening news, if you want to know what's going on NOW, get a radio.
Even better, get yourself licensed as a ham radio operator so you can be part of the communication solution if needed (yes, amateur radio is still important, even today).
For average, everyday people, digital cameras have completely and utterly displaced film. The previous "idiots cameras" the 110's, are pretty much extinct - I haven't seen one in years. This is due to the rise in quality of the 35mm point+shoots.
Now those same 35 point+shoots are being displaced (in mass quanitity) by point+shoot digital cameras. You can get a decent 2MP digital for $200 now, and 128meg of SmartMedia for under $50.
For the average joe-bag-a-donuts, 2MP is PLENTY of resolution.
What I predict you'll see is the continued dropping in price (and increase in capability) of consumer level digital cameras and the eventual exinction and/or price increase (due to lack of demand) of 35mm film, processing and equipment.
Poloroids - I'm surprised they're still in business today.
The 'net has allowed us to capatilize on our synergy while moving to a B2B model and later B2C. During this time we leveraged our user community and capatilized through eCommerce.
Then we ran out of funding and went broke. But it was a fun couple-a-few years.
Back in the day, this same thing played out over OS/2. I would say that Linux is more popular (and better than) OS/2, but it was a similiar situation in that a number of people thought if there could be/would be an OS/2 gaming market that OS/2 would succeed on the desktop.
Short story version is OS/2 didn't succeed on the desktop and OS/2 games sold in minimal numbers.
The interesting thing is this; OS/2 had Windows emulation. In fact, it had better Windows emulation then Linux does today [this is arguable in that Windows today is a different animal then it was then, but the point should stand]. And you know what, Windows emulation didn't help OS/2. It didn't help because anything that is a windows emulator is destined to break because you-know-who controls the windows API and the windows gaming API. If you start to be successful in writing something that doesn't actually require windows to run windows apps, then you-know-who will BREAK the API and you will forever be playing catch-up.
The short answer to getting your now broken app to run again is to what? That's right, reboot and run it under Win32, where it was written and where it runs correctly.
> Once this thing is really happening, maybe people like you will stop trying to convince me that M$ office is the "standard".
I don't know what your experience has been the past 5 years, but every office I've walked into has had the entire MS Office suite installed. I hear from my peers that this has been their experience as well.
> I don't think breaking WP's filters would help microsoft's antitrust problems at this point
You might have noticed that they seem to have paid little mind to the antitrust allegations. Breaking WP's filters would me mild compared to what else they've done (even after the antitrust allegations).
Except it won't really matter because MS Office has absolutely saturated the market. If you don't have MS Office, you can't trade documents with your clients, and if you can't do that, you're out of business.
The sorry truth is, if this became an issue for MS, they would make the next version of Word completely incommpatible with whatever filters WP has. Whoever was offering Corel WP would simply see their sales drop and find out it was because of not offering MS Word.
I'm completely shocked why the corporate world hasn't seen through the bi-yearly upgrade cycle MS has inflicted on its customers and revolted.
The only real hope would be to start offering OpenOffice as an option letting everyone know they are free to copy it not only to their laptop, but to everyone elses machine in the building!
> Sounds like a really old powerbook - not exactly a great comparison. Besides, I hate OS9 with a passion (I wan't a mac user until OSX)
It's 3 years old - I've got PC's (and a laptop) that are 3 years old that work *much* better (and run Linux). OS9 is a dog, as was every MacOS before it. I don't know how people dealt with it for so long. It looks pretty, that's about it.
> As for the apps not working together, I've had issue with the damn clipboard in Linux not working between apps
All I can say is this hasn't been my experience lately (like in the past 3 or 4 years). Earlier versions of XFree86 and their related apps did seem to have some funky clipboard issues but I don't remember specifics.
> As for the hardware being expensive - that's really *not* the case.
Actually it is. You can't touch a decent Mac to run OSX for under 2K-3K. I'm talking it run it nicely, not limping along. As I mentioned in my first post, a beefy PC can be had for 1K, and you can build decent one for $500. That will get you a box to run Linux at a decent clip and all the apps you can shake a stick at.
I really don't see how a Mac can be cheaper to own - but I will look for the study you mentioned.
Actually I have a Mac Powerbook - it's a dog and hardware limited to 48meg of RAM. It crashes doing difficult tasks, like reading email.
> Apps don't work together - it's aweful.
What does this mean? Should my browser somehow work with my word processor? In what way? As far as GUI apps under X, they all seem to work together in the ways that I need. The console apps ALL work together in ways that make complete sense as well.
>>>>>Seriously, *try* a mac. Try to do everyday things - it just works - not all the time granted, but most of the time - which is a huge improvement over every other OS out there.
I've never tried OSX, and to be honest I don't think I'll ever get the chance because the hardware is darn expensive.
Fact: Mac hardware (decent hardware, enough to run and make use of OSX so it isn't a dog) is freekin' expensive. I can buy a $1000 PC, put Linux and KDE on it and have a dynamite, stable box with incredible sound, 512MB of RAM, 100GB HD, great graphics and a nice monitor. Oh yeah, all of my OS upgrades will be Free.
But for $3K I can buy a Mac with decent specs, spend hundreds on OS upgrades, still get old game ports and tell everyone that it has "unix under the covers, although I have no blessed idea how to use it."
It never ceases to amaze me how many excuses a Mac user comes up with why they spend that much money on a Mac.
This isn't meant to be flamebait, although it probably is. I'm just amazed by it, really.
Some moments of light in this article, then not...
"This is a fuller implementation," Tetzchner said. "We could have improved support with the old engine, but it would have been more difficult. This is a more future-proof solution."
OK - that's a smart thing, imo - realizing that the legacy code is a dead-end and doing something about it.
"But ultimately, Hurd concluded, Opera and other Microsoft competitors would do better to support the technologies that the market-leading Internet Explorer browser made available, rather than focusing on industry standards."
"What these other browser makers should do is stop complaining about what Microsoft is doing and start supporting what Microsoft is supporting," Hurd said. "People out there aren't reading these specs; they're using IE."
Uh-oh - now they're dead. Here's a news flash; every company that ever tried to to "follow" MS's lead ends up getting served up in the MS cafeteria as stew. They will forever be behind, in the dark and ultimately out of business if this is their plan.
It's great to see these ports, but quite frankly I'll be impressed if they sell 2000 copies max.
It's been said a zillion times; ports need to be out at the same time, or very, very close to the same time to be viable. And they need to be patched at the same time, or...
Loki was a good effort, but even they didn't succeed. It's not because the games got warezed, it's because the games were well past their shelf life when they came out.
I'm glad people with other interests are getting to see the logic that's been applied to gun control laws; i.e. make it illegal to own a gun, and gun crimes won't get commited.
Hence, we all know that once it's illegal to copy movies and music, movies and music won't get copied.
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What is going to be the next big thing in chat that makes all of this a moot point?
What's the next killer "chat" app and why does it matter?
I personally find most "chat" boring and don't see the point of it. People obviously use it though, so I guess I just missed the point.
Of course not.
However I think most network professionals are more concerned with keeping their network secure than "beautiful interfaces."
It is quite possible to do wireless without opening up your entire company network. Just like it's possible to NT networking securely.
The problem is for the most part there are idiots in control of the corporate IT that have impressive MS certifications after their names but don't know diddly squat. This quote:
proves it and let's us know who they plan on selling to.And just what is it they plan to do when they get people logged into their honey pot? Call the police? Oh man please.
The problem is there are all sorts of free resources that provide whatever it is the TPJ hopes to provide. What the people who hope to keep the TPJ alive need to ask themselves is "what are we going to provide that isn't already available for free."
Yes, one day the party will end and you will have to pay for information of value on the 'net. However that day is quite far away and I suspect the TPJ will in fact... die.
It was good while it lasted.
Stay tuned; I expect we'll see "RIP TPJ" here on slashdot shortly.
Folks,
If you don't have a portable AM/FM radio, or even better a shortwave receiver, then get one TODAY. Get some spare battteries for it as well.
The simple fact is if you want to hear what's going on during a "major event" radio is the best way to do it. And you have evacuate in a hurry, you sure as hell aren't going to be taking your 60" flat screen TV with you. You want pictures, wait for the evening news, if you want to know what's going on NOW, get a radio.
Even better, get yourself licensed as a ham radio operator so you can be part of the communication solution if needed (yes, amateur radio is still important, even today).
This is slightly off topic, but...
For average, everyday people, digital cameras have completely and utterly displaced film. The previous "idiots cameras" the 110's, are pretty much extinct - I haven't seen one in years. This is due to the rise in quality of the 35mm point+shoots.
Now those same 35 point+shoots are being displaced (in mass quanitity) by point+shoot digital cameras. You can get a decent 2MP digital for $200 now, and 128meg of SmartMedia for under $50.
For the average joe-bag-a-donuts, 2MP is PLENTY of resolution.
What I predict you'll see is the continued dropping in price (and increase in capability) of consumer level digital cameras and the eventual exinction and/or price increase (due to lack of demand) of 35mm film, processing and equipment.
Poloroids - I'm surprised they're still in business today.
Is there a way to get my mouse to wave "Good Morning" New York style?
The 'net has allowed us to capatilize on our synergy while moving to a B2B model and later B2C. During this time we leveraged our user community and capatilized through eCommerce.
Then we ran out of funding and went broke. But it was a fun couple-a-few years.
Pull into a service station and buy a map - much better suited for the problem at hand and much less expensive.
If my boss told me to work 15 hours a day, I'd spend 7 of 'em doing my resume.
Ain't that the truth!
"me too"
WarSkydiving?
Back in the day, this same thing played out over OS/2. I would say that Linux is more popular (and better than) OS/2, but it was a similiar situation in that a number of people thought if there could be/would be an OS/2 gaming market that OS/2 would succeed on the desktop.
Short story version is OS/2 didn't succeed on the desktop and OS/2 games sold in minimal numbers.
The interesting thing is this; OS/2 had Windows emulation. In fact, it had better Windows emulation then Linux does today [this is arguable in that Windows today is a different animal then it was then, but the point should stand]. And you know what, Windows emulation didn't help OS/2. It didn't help because anything that is a windows emulator is destined to break because you-know-who controls the windows API and the windows gaming API. If you start to be successful in writing something that doesn't actually require windows to run windows apps, then you-know-who will BREAK the API and you will forever be playing catch-up.
The short answer to getting your now broken app to run again is to what? That's right, reboot and run it under Win32, where it was written and where it runs correctly.
> Once this thing is really happening, maybe people like you will stop trying to convince me that M$ office is the "standard".
I don't know what your experience has been the past 5 years, but every office I've walked into has had the entire MS Office suite installed. I hear from my peers that this has been their experience as well.
> I don't think breaking WP's filters would help microsoft's antitrust problems at this point
You might have noticed that they seem to have paid little mind to the antitrust allegations. Breaking WP's filters would me mild compared to what else they've done (even after the antitrust allegations).
> Lay off the FUD - you can run an office without Word.
It's not FUD if it's REAL. In the real world, MS Word (MS Office for that matter) is in fact the de facto standard and has been for at least 5 years.
> And what kind of an idiot sends document *source*, being riddled with virus, editing histories and so forth?
Do you have a sales or marketting dept in your co? If so, you know the kind of idiot who does this.
Except it won't really matter because MS Office has absolutely saturated the market. If you don't have MS Office, you can't trade documents with your clients, and if you can't do that, you're out of business.
The sorry truth is, if this became an issue for MS, they would make the next version of Word completely incommpatible with whatever filters WP has. Whoever was offering Corel WP would simply see their sales drop and find out it was because of not offering MS Word.
I'm completely shocked why the corporate world hasn't seen through the bi-yearly upgrade cycle MS has inflicted on its customers and revolted.
The only real hope would be to start offering OpenOffice as an option letting everyone know they are free to copy it not only to their laptop, but to everyone elses machine in the building!
> Sounds like a really old powerbook - not exactly a great comparison. Besides, I hate OS9 with a passion (I wan't a mac user until OSX)
It's 3 years old - I've got PC's (and a laptop) that are 3 years old that work *much* better (and run Linux). OS9 is a dog, as was every MacOS before it. I don't know how people dealt with it for so long. It looks pretty, that's about it.
> As for the apps not working together, I've had issue with the damn clipboard in Linux not working between apps
All I can say is this hasn't been my experience lately (like in the past 3 or 4 years). Earlier versions of XFree86 and their related apps did seem to have some funky clipboard issues but I don't remember specifics.
> As for the hardware being expensive - that's really *not* the case.
Actually it is. You can't touch a decent Mac to run OSX for under 2K-3K. I'm talking it run it nicely, not limping along. As I mentioned in my first post, a beefy PC can be had for 1K, and you can build decent one for $500. That will get you a box to run Linux at a decent clip and all the apps you can shake a stick at.
I really don't see how a Mac can be cheaper to own - but I will look for the study you mentioned.
> Apparently you haven't *used* a Mac.
Actually I have a Mac Powerbook - it's a dog and hardware limited to 48meg of RAM. It crashes doing difficult tasks, like reading email.
> Apps don't work together - it's aweful.
What does this mean? Should my browser somehow work with my word processor? In what way? As far as GUI apps under X, they all seem to work together in the ways that I need. The console apps ALL work together in ways that make complete sense as well.
>>>>>Seriously, *try* a mac. Try to do everyday things - it just works - not all the time granted, but most of the time - which is a huge improvement over every other OS out there.
I've never tried OSX, and to be honest I don't think I'll ever get the chance because the hardware is darn expensive.
Sorry, I just don't get it.
Fact: Mac hardware (decent hardware, enough to run and make use of OSX so it isn't a dog) is freekin' expensive. I can buy a $1000 PC, put Linux and KDE on it and have a dynamite, stable box with incredible sound, 512MB of RAM, 100GB HD, great graphics and a nice monitor. Oh yeah, all of my OS upgrades will be Free.
But for $3K I can buy a Mac with decent specs, spend hundreds on OS upgrades, still get old game ports and tell everyone that it has "unix under the covers, although I have no blessed idea how to use it."
It never ceases to amaze me how many excuses a Mac user comes up with why they spend that much money on a Mac.
This isn't meant to be flamebait, although it probably is. I'm just amazed by it, really.
Some moments of light in this article, then not...
"This is a fuller implementation," Tetzchner said. "We could have improved support with the old engine, but it would have been more difficult. This is a more future-proof solution."
OK - that's a smart thing, imo - realizing that the legacy code is a dead-end and doing something about it.
"But ultimately, Hurd concluded, Opera and other Microsoft competitors would do better to support the technologies that the market-leading Internet Explorer browser made available, rather than focusing on industry standards."
"What these other browser makers should do is stop complaining about what Microsoft is doing and start supporting what Microsoft is supporting," Hurd said. "People out there aren't reading these specs; they're using IE."
Uh-oh - now they're dead. Here's a news flash; every company that ever tried to to "follow" MS's lead ends up getting served up in the MS cafeteria as stew. They will forever be behind, in the dark and ultimately out of business if this is their plan.
It's great to see these ports, but quite frankly I'll be impressed if they sell 2000 copies max.
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It's been said a zillion times; ports need to be out at the same time, or very, very close to the same time to be viable. And they need to be patched at the same time, or
Loki was a good effort, but even they didn't succeed. It's not because the games got warezed, it's because the games were well past their shelf life when they came out.
I'm glad people with other interests are getting to see the logic that's been applied to gun control laws; i.e. make it illegal to own a gun, and gun crimes won't get commited.
Hence, we all know that once it's illegal to copy movies and music, movies and music won't get copied.
Right?