A much better use of their time and lessen the network load, let's teach some of the college professors how to use Acrobat (or whatever) to create PDF's more efficiently.
I worked in the computer commons in college and I can't tell you how many times we had to reset printer spools because of students printing 100 meg pdf's from intranet sites (yes students were taught to download then print).
It is true that graphics will increase the size of any document, however if I can get a 600-700 page apache tutorial in pdf and it takes up only a nominal amount of filespace, what is the deal with the 100 meg 5-10 page pdf!?
BTW./ had this at the bottom: "Congratulations! You are the one-millionth user to log into our system. If there's anything special we can do for you, anything at all, don't hesitate to ask!"
So I want the ultra cool, moderately geeky/. polo!;-)
Mandrake mentions/. as a place to discuss the new release.
Too bad so many pedantic holier than though trolls are whining about the post by a distributor of CD's. Who cares. The post is about a new release of a great distribution, not the horrors of monopolistic industry advertising and exploitation.
It would be very cool to actually focus on discussing and possibly improving upon the distribution. Come on guys, we are supposed to be building upon the "news for nerds, stuff that matters" credo, not defaming it by filling the board with BS.
Let's see some real posts, let's hear what people think about the latest release. Let's see if we can't prevent some of the most annoying of bugs from being released. Let's share pertinent and valuable information.
I recently sent my congressman an e-mail regarding off-shoring tech jobs through washtech. Is there a similar group that fights against stupid litigation that serves no other purpose other than confusing the public and wasting tax dollars? Not only do they want us to license our software but they are using our tax dollars to do it. Yes I know they pay for there own lawyers and such, however they also push back legitimate litigation and use up the courts.
SCO should lose their rights to do business in the united states, the patent and copyright department(s) should be reformed because of this copyright. Obviously they didn't know what they were looking at and didn't care to find out before the copyright was issued.
I wonder really how much grief this will cause the US government as well as any other governments because the copyright was given and not completely understood.
I know, 'they are users, they should not be expected to understand'. Yes and we are all still using horse drawn carriages and oil lamps.
SCO, is not welcome. I will never buy a SCO product and neither will any of my friends, family or clients. Yank their corporate license. Ask your congressmen to protect our rights, which should never have been in question to begin with.
I am typically security minded, paranoid if you will, however I can think of no better use for crackers at this point than to take down SCO and keep em down (not meant to encourage). They suck.
Ahhhh, but you neglect to take into account the new TLD servers. 9 to begin with, 1 per planet, then perhaps we can stick another one on each moon. All nuclear powered IBM/Linux clusters of course. We have to have IP addresses enough to satisfy the maintainers of the remote sites and their extreme need for porn. And who can blame them.....you sit on a frozen rock!;-)
It may just be my nature but for some reason I am rather happy with the major leap that the engineers took with the new protocol. If only it were possible to make such advances in the hardware world, perhaps we would be closer to my "SpaceNet" ravings.;-)
The way I interpreted his question is as such. He has much dust, at work, possibly a "workshop" environment. I am thinking manufacturing, and I am not thinking ionic breeze. I am thinking big fans that, serve to keep things cool and also direct dust debree out of crucial areas.
Sound to simple? It's still expensive, so it just might work!;-)
Ummm is it me or was this group in China asleep during science class.
We don't need to worry about the world turning on end, or anything simple as an entire planet ravaged with storms. Naw, who needs it....we want a better micro-chip material, low gravity manufacturing plant, anything to make a buck or two.
And where do I sign up for the Great American Moon Grab!?
An admin will develop a sort of possessiveness with their network. You may feel that you as a user spend more time with the computer than an admin, or in most cases recently, "the admin". Most users have no idea and can't comprehend the time that we actually spend working on the computers and networks.
Even if we aren't working over night rolling out a new hosting server. If we are not cabling the building over the weekend. We still vigilantly carry a pager or some other device that gets computer and network monitoring alerts.
You'd be shocked to know what some of the most inept computer doods know and can do.
And one other thing, they (Systems Administrators, Database Administrators, Datacenter Techs, NOC Monitors... and many other IT people you DON'T see) don't usually get thanks. Users tend to grumble that though they need help, the admin is causing them an inconvenience by showing up to help!
Not our computers!? Well no, we don't own the company. Or do we!? We control every little tid-bit of data, if we don't than we are not doing our jobs. Its not just a job its a passion, and we do it well or we wouldn't still be helping our clients the users.
Companies like our bodies don't function correctly if something is missing. In this analogy the sales department are the hands extending out. Marketing would be the mouth showing our perly whites. R&D obviously the brain.
But where should we put IT, (using IT as an all encompassing term) I would have to say that IT makes up the nervous system (and spread the term back out as you see fit). I guess it's natural to have a few free radicals running around messing with your settings on your corporate workstation. And we haven't even mentioned the user/security issues.
Perhaps you'd like to take a field day (cross matrix training thingie) and be a SysAdmins sounding board. He can ask you questions and you can give him the answers to all his problems!?
My rant for the evening.
Have you thanked your Systems Administrator lately!?
This sounds like a very cool and nifty idea. The one thing that would hold me back is the fact that I would have to update from their network and would have a hard time installing packages of my choice.
I may be ignorant but, whenever I tried to update anything or install anything, I was told that a dependency was not found. With a cursory exploration, I found that the dependency was there but low and behold everything has been renamed!
MDK is a pain in the a$$!
If they have stopped this practice of renaming files I am unaware as I have moved on to a more standard linux distro.
When I read the blurb, I had this strange image flash into my head. The image of an Telco Executive scratching his forehead while on the phone with tech support. The next image was the hourly wage tech support person, red faced and frustrated.
This is a pipe dream. There will always be a need for our janitorial experience! Users are users and will always be users. Systems and software will always be buggy, and always need that special human touch.;-)
It's interesting to me that they seem to be trying to get rid of their biggest supporters, no matter what OS bias you have. That can't be good business sense.
If the government is given all of this broad sweeping power without any checks, what is next? Do you have national secrets on your computer? Are you hiding kiddie porn? I dont know, then again neither would you if the feds knocked in your door and said you did. With that said, how much power do you as a single un-represented citizen have when in a dark room filled with feds. People are against this bill and bills like it because of the complexity and ambiguous nature of the bill. It is written to fluster and confuse the layman. You think that by supporting the bill you are helping to protect us and to protect systems, when in reality you are further binding our wrists.
Make no mistake our lives are getting more and more restricted in this great country of ours. I dont support nor respect crackers and what they do, but I can look at the big picture. I would ask the security mavens what they think, what they would wish.
In my opinion I think they would love to see harsher punishment for the crackers, though perhaps not to the extent that is implemented by the bill. To be sure, they would also not want anything to hinder privacy and freedom on the internet and abroad. The internet was designed for freedom, for developmental growth, and for everyone.
Stop being another cog in the bureacratic machine.
I'm sorry but local universities are almost always a joke (at least from what I have seen in Phoenix). The faculty and staff are usually more behind than up to date. To get to the few that are security savvy is pretty much impossible. The average IT guy that sets up or maintains the lab focuses on security that basically hinders functionality on apps and doesn't secure what is important.
I've actually dropped out of a local university (supposedly trying to be more up to date and technical) to attend a community college that offers more appropriate classes.
I would suggest books (which can get very expensive for the good ones), online sites have tons of info for a couple good ones check these out. http://www.infosyssec.com/ http://www.whitehats .com/
If all else fails check out the community colleges, they seem to be more closely tied to the IT corporations. My CC is the SouthWest hub for Cisco, Novell, and MS. Coolest thing is that they dont stop there, they offer classes on such things as perl, *bsd, solaris, security, etc....
If you are using windows I have seen f-secure at large corporations and medium to small businesses that I have worked at and supported.
I have likewise seen, used and implemented openssh at the same companies. To exclude OpenSSH because it is OpenSource (freeware that hopefully gets creative and monetary contributions to it on a regular basis), is quite frankly ignorant and beyond all common business sense.
Just because it doesn't have a big 'M' (microsoft) or a big 'I' (intel) or a big 'O' (Oracle) or a big 'C' (Cisco) on it doesn't mean that it sucks. Take a look at the movie Tommy Boy 'Chris Farley' I think they summed up "Warranty" very nicely.
Slashdot Mirror
Make it something they have done as long as they can remember, then there will be no complaints. Nothing like social programming.....mooooo
Geez man talk about redundant...... -4 moderation....troll troll!
Nothing like training another generation to know what something looks like and all the proper terms to use when asking around.
Whoa you mean I am unique! ;-) Wonders never cease!
They simply need to upgrade to the latest version of windows to have 99.999 uptime! ;-)
A much better use of their time and lessen the network load, let's teach some of the college professors how to use Acrobat (or whatever) to create PDF's more efficiently.
I worked in the computer commons in college and I can't tell you how many times we had to reset printer spools because of students printing 100 meg pdf's from intranet sites (yes students were taught to download then print).
It is true that graphics will increase the size of any document, however if I can get a 600-700 page apache tutorial in pdf and it takes up only a nominal amount of filespace, what is the deal with the 100 meg 5-10 page pdf!?
Pre-Creative Sound Blaster Awe32 ISA sound card and in my Redhat 9.0 box.
A total of five 1x CD-Roms floating around in various boxen
Every box has an old floppy that I've had for a minimum of 8 years.
Cell phone users to snipe telemarketers!
./ had this at the bottom:
/. polo! ;-)
BTW
"Congratulations! You are the one-millionth user to log into our system. If there's anything special we can do for you, anything at all, don't hesitate to ask!"
So I want the ultra cool, moderately geeky
But of course how else does a 'nerd' get a date!? Why might you assume that I use windows?
Purple Unicorns is cool, but we'll let em live.
I prefer the chicken foot, goats blood, and virgin fare maiden to appease the electronic gods.
;-)
Ok...ok so the last one was for me. Jeez you'd think other nerds would let me have a little something-something out of the deal!
BASIC.
;-)
Not any of that wimpy namby pamby visual, object oriented stuffage. The big meaty pain in the arse line code BASIC.
Basic BASIC
Yeah now that is coding! 500 lines of code to watch 2 blobs on a see-saw, now that's living! Woohoo!
Mandrake mentions /. as a place to discuss the new release.
Too bad so many pedantic holier than though trolls are whining about the post by a distributor of CD's. Who cares. The post is about a new release of a great distribution, not the horrors of monopolistic industry advertising and exploitation.
It would be very cool to actually focus on discussing and possibly improving upon the distribution. Come on guys, we are supposed to be building upon the "news for nerds, stuff that matters" credo, not defaming it by filling the board with BS.
Let's see some real posts, let's hear what people think about the latest release. Let's see if we can't prevent some of the most annoying of bugs from being released. Let's share pertinent and valuable information.
Any actual on-topic posts?
This post needs to be modded higher cause it is just so damn funny! And sadly, true.
I recently sent my congressman an e-mail regarding off-shoring tech jobs through washtech. Is there a similar group that fights against stupid litigation that serves no other purpose other than confusing the public and wasting tax dollars? Not only do they want us to license our software but they are using our tax dollars to do it. Yes I know they pay for there own lawyers and such, however they also push back legitimate litigation and use up the courts.
SCO should lose their rights to do business in the united states, the patent and copyright department(s) should be reformed because of this copyright. Obviously they didn't know what they were looking at and didn't care to find out before the copyright was issued.
I wonder really how much grief this will cause the US government as well as any other governments because the copyright was given and not completely understood.
I know, 'they are users, they should not be expected to understand'. Yes and we are all still using horse drawn carriages and oil lamps.
SCO, is not welcome. I will never buy a SCO product and neither will any of my friends, family or clients. Yank their corporate license. Ask your congressmen to protect our rights, which should never have been in question to begin with.
I am typically security minded, paranoid if you will, however I can think of no better use for crackers at this point than to take down SCO and keep em down (not meant to encourage). They suck.
Ahhhh, but you neglect to take into account the new TLD servers. 9 to begin with, 1 per planet, then perhaps we can stick another one on each moon. All nuclear powered IBM/Linux clusters of course. We have to have IP addresses enough to satisfy the maintainers of the remote sites and their extreme need for porn. And who can blame them.....you sit on a frozen rock! ;-)
;-)
It may just be my nature but for some reason I am rather happy with the major leap that the engineers took with the new protocol. If only it were possible to make such advances in the hardware world, perhaps we would be closer to my "SpaceNet" ravings.
It would be cool!
Cause it is just so geek chic to have that oh so cool amber monitor!
The way I interpreted his question is as such. He has much dust, at work, possibly a "workshop" environment. I am thinking manufacturing, and I am not thinking ionic breeze. I am thinking big fans that, serve to keep things cool and also direct dust debree out of crucial areas.
;-)
Sound to simple? It's still expensive, so it just might work!
Ummm is it me or was this group in China asleep during science class.
We don't need to worry about the world turning on end, or anything simple as an entire planet ravaged with storms. Naw, who needs it....we want a better micro-chip material, low gravity manufacturing plant, anything to make a buck or two.
And where do I sign up for the Great American Moon Grab!?
And this would be why my users look at me like I am a fascist dictator when I ask them to use passwords! ;-)
An admin will develop a sort of possessiveness with their network. You may feel that you as a user spend more time with the computer than an admin, or in most cases recently, "the admin". Most users have no idea and can't comprehend the time that we actually spend working on the computers and networks.
... and many other IT people you DON'T see) don't usually get thanks. Users tend to grumble that though they need help, the admin is causing them an inconvenience by showing up to help!
Even if we aren't working over night rolling out a new hosting server. If we are not cabling the building over the weekend. We still vigilantly carry a pager or some other device that gets computer and network monitoring alerts.
You'd be shocked to know what some of the most inept computer doods know and can do.
And one other thing, they (Systems Administrators, Database Administrators, Datacenter Techs, NOC Monitors
Not our computers!? Well no, we don't own the company. Or do we!? We control every little tid-bit of data, if we don't than we are not doing our jobs. Its not just a job its a passion, and we do it well or we wouldn't still be helping our clients the users.
Companies like our bodies don't function correctly if something is missing. In this analogy the sales department are the hands extending out. Marketing would be the mouth showing our perly whites. R&D obviously the brain.
But where should we put IT, (using IT as an all encompassing term) I would have to say that IT makes up the nervous system (and spread the term back out as you see fit). I guess it's natural to have a few free radicals running around messing with your settings on your corporate workstation. And we haven't even mentioned the user/security issues.
Perhaps you'd like to take a field day (cross matrix training thingie) and be a SysAdmins sounding board. He can ask you questions and you can give him the answers to all his problems!?
My rant for the evening.
Have you thanked your Systems Administrator lately!?
This sounds like a very cool and nifty idea. The one thing that would hold me back is the fact that I would have to update from their network and would have a hard time installing packages of my choice.
I may be ignorant but, whenever I tried to update anything or install anything, I was told that a dependency was not found. With a cursory exploration, I found that the dependency was there but low and behold everything has been renamed!
MDK is a pain in the a$$!
If they have stopped this practice of renaming files I am unaware as I have moved on to a more standard linux distro.
When I read the blurb, I had this strange image flash into my head. The image of an Telco Executive scratching his forehead while on the phone with tech support. The next image was the hourly wage tech support person, red faced and frustrated.
;-)
This is a pipe dream. There will always be a need for our janitorial experience! Users are users and will always be users. Systems and software will always be buggy, and always need that special human touch.
It's interesting to me that they seem to be trying to get rid of their biggest supporters, no matter what OS bias you have. That can't be good business sense.
If the government is given all of this broad sweeping power without any checks, what is next? Do you have national secrets on your computer? Are you hiding kiddie porn? I dont know, then again neither would you if the feds knocked in your door and said you did. With that said, how much power do you as a single un-represented citizen have when in a dark room filled with feds. People are against this bill and bills like it because of the complexity and ambiguous nature of the bill. It is written to fluster and confuse the layman. You think that by supporting the bill you are helping to protect us and to protect systems, when in reality you are further binding our wrists.
Make no mistake our lives are getting more and more restricted in this great country of ours. I dont support nor respect crackers and what they do, but I can look at the big picture. I would ask the security mavens what they think, what they would wish.
In my opinion I think they would love to see harsher punishment for the crackers, though perhaps not to the extent that is implemented by the bill. To be sure, they would also not want anything to hinder privacy and freedom on the internet and abroad. The internet was designed for freedom, for developmental growth, and for everyone.
Stop being another cog in the bureacratic machine.
tool
I'm sorry but local universities are almost always a joke (at least from what I have seen in Phoenix). The faculty and staff are usually more behind than up to date. To get to the few that are security savvy is pretty much impossible. The average IT guy that sets up or maintains the lab focuses on security that basically hinders functionality on apps and doesn't secure what is important.
s .com/
I've actually dropped out of a local university (supposedly trying to be more up to date and technical) to attend a community college that offers more appropriate classes.
I would suggest books (which can get very expensive for the good ones), online sites have tons of info for a couple good ones check these out.
http://www.infosyssec.com/
http://www.whitehat
If all else fails check out the community colleges, they seem to be more closely tied to the IT corporations. My CC is the SouthWest hub for Cisco, Novell, and MS. Coolest thing is that they dont stop there, they offer classes on such things as perl, *bsd, solaris, security, etc....
Plenty of options.
If you are using windows I have seen f-secure at large corporations and medium to small businesses that I have worked at and supported.
I have likewise seen, used and implemented openssh at the same companies. To exclude OpenSSH because it is OpenSource (freeware that hopefully gets creative and monetary contributions to it on a regular basis), is quite frankly ignorant and beyond all common business sense.
Just because it doesn't have a big 'M' (microsoft) or a big 'I' (intel) or a big 'O' (Oracle) or a big 'C' (Cisco) on it doesn't mean that it sucks. Take a look at the movie Tommy Boy 'Chris Farley' I think they summed up "Warranty" very nicely.