The most important step missed by many. I didn't learn this until I was 16. Having a great algorithm is so important, it saves, time, help debugging and troubleshooting. Well so do well placed comments, but algorithm design is still always passed up. This should be a fundamental step in any education.
Can I suggest that in fact, poor attention to security might be the fundamental problem here, not the US military's supposed "underfunding".
Sure you may suggest that, but what I was trying to point out was that the people are quick to blame the Military/Government for this when in fact the company Tri-Care was contracted by the military because they, the military, can not afford to give up the manpower and the resources to do all the tasks. They can't even dedicate the recourses to ensure that the job is being completed correctly and safely. The fact that they outsourced this work because they can't do it themselves should be evident that they can't supply a Quality Assurance team to make sure the contractors have the best security.
And what they want is to get money for themselves and their big campaign contributors, that is absolutely all they are about
Isn't capitalism great? This is what happens when governmental Ideals mix with economics. It's also interesting that any country that America helps has a EULA about allowing American businesses in to help "stimulate" the economy. Yeah we see how great it's going right now. And don't give me this stuff that it is because of 9/11 that's what these great accountants tell the share holders in hopes that they don't sell. Much of this has been brewing way before that. It also doesn't help that politicians have so many ways to acquire money from different sources. It will always happen and will continue to happen in our country because of people that would read this and call me a troll because I think the economy and government is too corrupted, instead of going out and voting, hell I would even be happy if people actually took the time to learn about the candidates. In fact how many people here even go to a local council meeting, or city meeting? Oh well this isn't a politics story it's about conservatism, or the conservatism of the governments medical ideas. Now we all get Smallpox vaccine, well not all of us the Government doesn't want to be blamed for the few deaths that will happened, they would rather give you the option to take it, then ask you to fill out a waiver of responsibility.
What will the next step be? Raid the truck companies who deliver the CDs?
Well don'tdoubt it; anything that would constitute probable cause will lead them there. Anything that is touched by the merchandise is evidence. The harsh way to look at it but now that they have access to an area they will look for anything else that might be "wrong". That is basic investigation work. Sure that is not your main focus BUT you are also told to look for anything else, so... this leaves a lot of ambiguity and speculation. Also leaves you open to other probes.
It is nice to see that they are working with other agencies though!;-)
You are right. Specially since the military wants everybody to have a "smart card" ID with a cheap chip inside that hold all of their information, medical, financial, work history, and you will need this ID to Log into a computer, granted you have a seven digit pin, ONLY NUMBERS! And again the military has outsourced this project. Look for more exciting time of information theft.
maybe the US governement should secure their equipment a little better before they try to secure the internet.....
No, maybe people should quit bitching about how the military spends so much money causing them to outsource everything. Just like how they want to outsource the whole "Big Brother" act.
Doom flourished with third-party maps. Modifications for Quake and Half-life took on lives of their own, leading to commercial releases.
This also has surpassed the programmers expectations. It also can lead to an interesting point that sometimes the developers do not want to spend so much time supporting/developing for the game. Sure the fans help, and it is the fans that make their material free to use. There are plenty of talented CGI people and programmers, they just don't want to devote their entire life for peanuts and a divorce.
I personally always look at the "other" games. The ones made by a common Jane/Joe. It is kinda of like going to the old theater on campus and seeing what the no-name director/artist can do. Sure graphics is great, but so is the game play. For instance look at Neverwinter Nights. The capabilities are amazing, not to try to sell it, but you can pretty much add anything you want to your modules, sound, graphics, tile sets, scripts, and even more. Granted to really cruddy part is the the tool-set is for Windows only. Just think of is a a fact that this game was in development for 3-4 years before Linux started entering the scene. Any how the main point is that most of the games that live so longer are due to the fans. They are the ones creating the materials and keeping it going. The businesspeople have already made their money so they could careless about the continuing life-unless they see a sequel out of it.
Sorry but if it is like 8.0 they can keep it. I'm still running fine with 7.3. I appreciate the intense struggle for RH and other companies to improve their distro to help the community out, but are they not trying a little too hard to keep pushing out the newest release? I mean it almost feels like the CPU race where we are told that a 900Mhz is too slow to keep up with a 1.4GHz. It just seems a bit over kill. I'm not blaming RH, at least they make sure their Distro is beat and tested against many arch's and problems. I know this is a beta but come on, when was 8.0 released??
We simply need to make email delivery cost something. A tenth of a penny an email would be more than enough.
I would rather re-invent the whole mail transport (without help from Bill) then to see some charges put into it. My thought is that if you put a price on it 1) Who will collect? 2) Would you implement this world wide? 3)Who does the money go to? 4)This will ignite the Governments reaction to start charging for other things on the net for an augmentation to the tax collection that has been lost recently. 5) You would also have to get an agreement of exactly what is SPAM, and who would be the authority to determine it.
What we need is to have a replacement ready. Waiting in the wings to take over.
You hit it on the spot. We need to take this over like a redundant power-supply, and should do it now. I'm sure some other Software heavy is already doing this, and waiting to save the day. He didn't get so much money for being stupid! I have no idea how to start doing it, but I know their are plenty of smart people out there that can. What would be helpful is if programmers from the major OS's could come together and get something started.
Well I wont blame them because they're French-even the French can run a business;-P I will blame Mandrake. Lets see...pay to use it via purchasing it out-right, or signing up for subscription service called "A User Club" if you donate $60 you still can't get the new StarOffice 6.0 (Who cares I like Open office) then "we need money for 9.0" Get released, and as we know they always release a Beta as the final...more time passes, "Oh crap what happened to the money?" Sure we can say it happened because of 9/11 that seems to be the catch all, but as many people stated how does a company burn through so much money? I would want to see how they spend the money, and I mean a detailed record rather than three lines of info. Plus they are a company, they even have stock for jehibu Christmas! A company that has stocks issued and is asking for handouts is in a bit of trouble, kind like Loki in the day eh?
And do you know how Red Hat flexes its muscle? By GPL'ing nearly everything it produces, supporing the LSB, and employing people to work full-time on Linux, thus contributing their work back to the community for everyone from you to SuSE to Debian to use. Ooooh, how deliciously evil.
Did Red Hat not support Software patents? You are correct they do pay the employees, I don't think they could have such great programmers if they didn't. What you say about GPL'ing everything is very true, not like SuSE what wont release YaST (Thank god).
I'm not trying to say they are evil, I think MS uses evil business tactics, but then again would other people who wanted to stay on top? I was really wondering since Red Hat can be technically called the biggest monetary power house in the Linux community, are they using this power to "enforce" their standards. Sure they don't need anyones permission and I can use what Distro I like, BUT since they have a great market share already and most non-techs tend to keep loyalties more than others, It will be easier to acquaint your customers, correct that PAYING customers to your standards. And for a business to survive you need to go where the money is, and right now Red Hat is establishing that arena.
Maybe they wanted it to fail so they can show the world that they are human, and are prone to set backs. Hell they tell us once a month with a security warning.
P.s. Oh if you have to respond as an AC cuz you don't have the balls/ovaries to make a real comment. Go fsck yourself @ the door.
Well it is great news that a company how's business is solely about linux_is_turning a profit, and especially since they have been not struggling, but watching what they do. It is also good to see that they are doing this with out memberships or asking for more donations. What also helps is that their Distro is what many American business use, and what certification are measured against (some not all). Now is this good? After the 8.0 release I didn't see so many people praising Red Hat as with the 7.3 release. I see Red Hat push for a standardization in the Linux community, but it is more of "their" standards, not what the community wants. This is a double edged sword, good for them and getting Linux more coverage, but possibly bad for the community with a muscle like Red Hat who as we can tell is starting to flex a bit. Please tell me what you think on this.
Doesn't anybody just fscking read for pure pleasure anymore? Why do we have to stray toward a more politically correct version of a story or a myth? Instead of sounding uneducated with blabs of curse words, let me offer this. This story was a release and a tale. It is entertaining, and helps take the mind away from everything. Sometimes when people read/write they want to fall in love with a different world, leave the old behind-in a sense it's like a drug that takes you to that other place of no worries, childlike imagination of innocence and enjoyment. Or, it might be an intriguing mystery, full of dreadful dangerous deception dictating drastic demoralizing dilemmas daunting dreams damming deeds. But still a break away from this place we call reality. So with all of my ranting and ignorance to the authors real issues; go watch some more movies you insensitive clod! You can have your e-pinoins and I can have mine, so bugger-off.
This can be a new way of screwing with some one. Just imagine faking their names and then posting or doing business with some questionable sights. This Google report would seem to hold as much weight as an Equifax report, probably as damaging too!
Linux is making serious waves with the big boys of IT. IBM, SUN, Hewlett Packard, Oracle and DELL
We all know that Dell has backed off a couple of time, well they never_truly_supported the Linux they did sell for a short time.
Linux division shows its ugly head at perhaps the worst time.
I disagree. This division is not an ugly side to Linux, rather I believe that is what keeps the choices available. Hell look at how many freaking car models we have, granted you have five similar with different names, the choice is still there.
But they are united, and most don't know the first thing about Linux. Why is that?
Well I will say because there are about ten different "Hacker" magz out there that teach them a new trick every month on who to make their system that much faster, and it would be detrimental to dump all that knowledge to learn a new OS.
Red Hat, Lycoris and even Debian need to get on this group.
Now I use RH 7.3, and I know there is now way in hell you'll get a Debian group to admit that RH is an equal-it's not.
I am glad that you can be so positive about this, it is commendable, i on the other hand have basically told Bioware to fschk off! I'm damn sick and tired of there one year story of how close the client is. I would love to sell my copy of NWN, I just don't care anymore, by the time this game of wounder comes out, so will DOOM III! At least that will be ready for Linux.
Bioware should thank the gods for customers like you, cuz if they were like me they would be hurting in more ways than one!.
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getting more people turned onto Linux
Why should this be the main focus? I mean trying to make it user friendly-fine that's a great idea to appeal to the non-Linux user, but I don't think a lot of effort should be focused on actively trying to get users converted. Because the one thing that will start happening, and we have seen RedHat do it, is that they will start catering to these users, ex-windows users who are used to getting things their way by complaining about this or that. Users who have been using Linux for two years but still can't use lp in the CLI. This is not meant as a lash out or an insult, just a question of motive. If you bring too many of these half users on board you will ask for allot more than you have ever bargained for, and will start making a distro to make it easier for them, and focus less on the real applications.
That was three or four months ago. Realistically, I imagine I'll have to wait until Doom III, maybe 5 or 6 months more, before I can actually play a game which will take advantage of a non-trivial part of my new GPU's power.
Well how does it work with UT2003 and all the settings up in an intense CTF?
Really though software follows the same fate it has for a long time. The programmers, cannot program fast enough to keep up with the ever changing hardware. That is just a plain fact, as some one said some posts ago that "It took thousands of years to perfect bridge building and we have only been programming for 50 or so years." We have just touched to beginning of programming and computer use.
So the next time you think that the public doesn't care about issues, watch the ratings for the nightly news, Bill O'Reily, and CNN
So who do they actually poll? Is it a truly diverse crowd? Then again do you see any other news besides those, and please don't tell me that FOX is a good news source, they are the WWF of News.
Don't assume they are idiots
Never have I made such an assumption. Ones choice of lifestyle does not qualify them as an idiot.
And yes your are totally correct about saying many people are having a hard time trying to make ends meet, but then I see so many people running up credit cards, renting lots of movies, drinking with the friends, and so much more so there must be some money and time somewhere. But I believe that you point about not having time to care is absolutely true. Everyone decides what gets their time and attention. My point was that a lot of people claim they don't even have five minute to write an email, but they have a couple of our to go out with friends or family. I was not saying to rip your life apart and totally dedicate to a cause that is just plain useless, instead just take five minutes here or there and write a letter read sometime, voice you opinion at the right place. Just to make a little change takes a little change not one dramatic change for a week or a month and then revert back.
My intention here was not to offend anyone, even though I obviously have, but just to make people realize that all the time they are spending complaining on the phone, to friends, to newsgroups, and where ever else; they could focus that energy directly towards the cause of their frustrations.
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we wrote out algorithms on paper
The most important step missed by many. I didn't learn this until I was 16. Having a great algorithm is so important, it saves, time, help debugging and troubleshooting. Well so do well placed comments, but algorithm design is still always passed up. This should be a fundamental step in any education.
What this will do for phone sex!!!
On a serious note, this would be a kicker for the spam-king and the telemarket-king.
Sorry couldn't resist. I'sa gots sum ishues.
What this can do to Porn Mags!!!
Can I suggest that in fact, poor attention to security might be the fundamental problem here, not the US military's supposed "underfunding".
Sure you may suggest that, but what I was trying to point out was that the people are quick to blame the Military/Government for this when in fact the company Tri-Care was contracted by the military because they, the military, can not afford to give up the manpower and the resources to do all the tasks. They can't even dedicate the recourses to ensure that the job is being completed correctly and safely. The fact that they outsourced this work because they can't do it themselves should be evident that they can't supply a Quality Assurance team to make sure the contractors have the best security.
And what they want is to get money for themselves and their big campaign contributors, that is absolutely all they are about
Isn't capitalism great? This is what happens when governmental Ideals mix with economics. It's also interesting that any country that America helps has a EULA about allowing American businesses in to help "stimulate" the economy. Yeah we see how great it's going right now. And don't give me this stuff that it is because of 9/11 that's what these great accountants tell the share holders in hopes that they don't sell. Much of this has been brewing way before that. It also doesn't help that politicians have so many ways to acquire money from different sources. It will always happen and will continue to happen in our country because of people that would read this and call me a troll because I think the economy and government is too corrupted, instead of going out and voting, hell I would even be happy if people actually took the time to learn about the candidates. In fact how many people here even go to a local council meeting, or city meeting? Oh well this isn't a politics story it's about conservatism, or the conservatism of the governments medical ideas. Now we all get Smallpox vaccine, well not all of us the Government doesn't want to be blamed for the few deaths that will happened, they would rather give you the option to take it, then ask you to fill out a waiver of responsibility.
Just you wait! Global warming should take care of this little ice problem we have down here;-) Can't speak for a couple of miles in the atmosphere...
What will the next step be? Raid the truck companies who deliver the CDs?
... this leaves a lot of ambiguity and speculation. Also leaves you open to other probes.
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Well don'tdoubt it; anything that would constitute probable cause will lead them there. Anything that is touched by the merchandise is evidence. The harsh way to look at it but now that they have access to an area they will look for anything else that might be "wrong". That is basic investigation work. Sure that is not your main focus BUT you are also told to look for anything else, so
It is nice to see that they are working with other agencies though!
You are right. Specially since the military wants everybody to have a "smart card" ID with a cheap chip inside that hold all of their information, medical, financial, work history, and you will need this ID to Log into a computer, granted you have a seven digit pin, ONLY NUMBERS! And again the military has outsourced this project. Look for more exciting time of information theft.
maybe the US governement should secure their equipment a little better before they try to secure the internet.....
No, maybe people should quit bitching about how the military spends so much money causing them to outsource everything. Just like how they want to outsource the whole "Big Brother" act.
Doom flourished with third-party maps. Modifications for Quake and Half-life took on lives of their own, leading to commercial releases.
This also has surpassed the programmers expectations. It also can lead to an interesting point that sometimes the developers do not want to spend so much time supporting/developing for the game. Sure the fans help, and it is the fans that make their material free to use. There are plenty of talented CGI people and programmers, they just don't want to devote their entire life for peanuts and a divorce.
I personally always look at the "other" games. The ones made by a common Jane/Joe. It is kinda of like going to the old theater on campus and seeing what the no-name director/artist can do. Sure graphics is great, but so is the game play. For instance look at Neverwinter Nights. The capabilities are amazing, not to try to sell it, but you can pretty much add anything you want to your modules, sound, graphics, tile sets, scripts, and even more. Granted to really cruddy part is the the tool-set is for Windows only. Just think of is a a fact that this game was in development for 3-4 years before Linux started entering the scene. Any how the main point is that most of the games that live so longer are due to the fans. They are the ones creating the materials and keeping it going. The businesspeople have already made their money so they could careless about the continuing life-unless they see a sequel out of it.
Sorry but if it is like 8.0 they can keep it. I'm still running fine with 7.3. I appreciate the intense struggle for RH and other companies to improve their distro to help the community out, but are they not trying a little too hard to keep pushing out the newest release? I mean it almost feels like the CPU race where we are told that a 900Mhz is too slow to keep up with a 1.4GHz. It just seems a bit over kill. I'm not blaming RH, at least they make sure their Distro is beat and tested against many arch's and problems.
I know this is a beta but come on, when was 8.0 released??
We simply need to make email delivery cost something. A tenth of a penny an email would be more than enough.
I would rather re-invent the whole mail transport (without help from Bill) then to see some charges put into it. My thought is that if you put a price on it 1) Who will collect? 2) Would you implement this world wide? 3)Who does the money go to? 4)This will ignite the Governments reaction to start charging for other things on the net for an augmentation to the tax collection that has been lost recently. 5) You would also have to get an agreement of exactly what is SPAM, and who would be the authority to determine it.
What we need is to have a replacement ready. Waiting in the wings to take over.
You hit it on the spot. We need to take this over like a redundant power-supply, and should do it now. I'm sure some other Software heavy is already doing this, and waiting to save the day. He didn't get so much money for being stupid! I have no idea how to start doing it, but I know their are plenty of smart people out there that can. What would be helpful is if programmers from the major OS's could come together and get something started.
Well I wont blame them because they're French-even the French can run a business ;-P
I will blame Mandrake. Lets see...pay to use it via purchasing it out-right, or signing up for subscription service called "A User Club" if you donate $60 you still can't get the new StarOffice 6.0 (Who cares I like Open office) then "we need money for 9.0" Get released, and as we know they always release a Beta as the final...more time passes, "Oh crap what happened to the money?"
Sure we can say it happened because of 9/11 that seems to be the catch all, but as many people stated how does a company burn through so much money? I would want to see how they spend the money, and I mean a detailed record rather than three lines of info. Plus they are a company, they even have stock for jehibu Christmas! A company that has stocks issued and is asking for handouts is in a bit of trouble, kind like Loki in the day eh?
And do you know how Red Hat flexes its muscle? By GPL'ing nearly everything it produces, supporing the LSB, and employing people to work full-time on Linux, thus contributing their work back to the community for everyone from you to SuSE to Debian to use. Ooooh, how deliciously evil.
Did Red Hat not support Software patents? You are correct they do pay the employees, I don't think they could have such great programmers if they didn't. What you say about GPL'ing everything is very true, not like SuSE what wont release YaST (Thank god).
I'm not trying to say they are evil, I think MS uses evil business tactics, but then again would other people who wanted to stay on top? I was really wondering since Red Hat can be technically called the biggest monetary power house in the Linux community, are they using this power to "enforce" their standards. Sure they don't need anyones permission and I can use what Distro I like, BUT since they have a great market share already and most non-techs tend to keep loyalties more than others, It will be easier to acquaint your customers, correct that PAYING customers to your standards. And for a business to survive you need to go where the money is, and right now Red Hat is establishing that arena.
Maybe they wanted it to fail so they can show the world that they are human, and are prone to set backs. Hell they tell us once a month with a security warning.
P.s. Oh if you have to respond as an AC cuz you don't have the balls/ovaries to make a real comment. Go fsck yourself @ the door.
Well it is great news that a company how's business is solely about linux_is_turning a profit, and especially since they have been not struggling, but watching what they do. It is also good to see that they are doing this with out memberships or asking for more donations. What also helps is that their Distro is what many American business use, and what certification are measured against (some not all). Now is this good? After the 8.0 release I didn't see so many people praising Red Hat as with the 7.3 release. I see Red Hat push for a standardization in the Linux community, but it is more of "their" standards, not what the community wants. This is a double edged sword, good for them and getting Linux more coverage, but possibly bad for the community with a muscle like Red Hat who as we can tell is starting to flex a bit. Please tell me what you think on this.
Doesn't anybody just fscking read for pure pleasure anymore? Why do we have to stray toward a more politically correct version of a story or a myth? Instead of sounding uneducated with blabs of curse words, let me offer this. This story was a release and a tale. It is entertaining, and helps take the mind away from everything. Sometimes when people read/write they want to fall in love with a different world, leave the old behind-in a sense it's like a drug that takes you to that other place of no worries, childlike imagination of innocence and enjoyment. Or, it might be an intriguing mystery, full of dreadful dangerous deception dictating drastic demoralizing dilemmas daunting dreams damming deeds. But still a break away from this place we call reality. So with all of my ranting and ignorance to the authors real issues; go watch some more movies you insensitive clod! You can have your e-pinoins and I can have mine, so bugger-off.
This can be a new way of screwing with some one. Just imagine faking their names and then posting or doing business with some questionable sights. This Google report would seem to hold as much weight as an Equifax report, probably as damaging too!
Linux is making serious waves with the big boys of IT. IBM, SUN, Hewlett Packard, Oracle and DELL
We all know that Dell has backed off a couple of time, well they never_truly_supported the Linux they did sell for a short time.
Linux division shows its ugly head at perhaps the worst time.
I disagree. This division is not an ugly side to Linux, rather I believe that is what keeps the choices available. Hell look at how many freaking car models we have, granted you have five similar with different names, the choice is still there.
But they are united, and most don't know the first thing about Linux. Why is that?
Well I will say because there are about ten different "Hacker" magz out there that teach them a new trick every month on who to make their system that much faster, and it would be detrimental to dump all that knowledge to learn a new OS.
Red Hat, Lycoris and even Debian need to get on this group.
Now I use RH 7.3, and I know there is now way in hell you'll get a Debian group to admit that RH is an equal-it's not.
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I am glad that you can be so positive about this, it is commendable, i on the other hand have basically told Bioware to fschk off! I'm damn sick and tired of there one year story of how close the client is. I would love to sell my copy of NWN, I just don't care anymore, by the time this game of wounder comes out, so will DOOM III! At least that will be ready for Linux.
Bioware should thank the gods for customers like you, cuz if they were like me they would be hurting in more ways than one!.
getting more people turned onto Linux
Why should this be the main focus? I mean trying to make it user friendly-fine that's a great idea to appeal to the non-Linux user, but I don't think a lot of effort should be focused on actively trying to get users converted. Because the one thing that will start happening, and we have seen RedHat do it, is that they will start catering to these users, ex-windows users who are used to getting things their way by complaining about this or that. Users who have been using Linux for two years but still can't use lp in the CLI. This is not meant as a lash out or an insult, just a question of motive. If you bring too many of these half users on board you will ask for allot more than you have ever bargained for, and will start making a distro to make it easier for them, and focus less on the real applications.
That was three or four months ago. Realistically, I imagine I'll have to wait until Doom III, maybe 5 or 6 months more, before I can actually play a game which will take advantage of a non-trivial part of my new GPU's power.
Well how does it work with UT2003 and all the settings up in an intense CTF?
Really though software follows the same fate it has for a long time. The programmers, cannot program fast enough to keep up with the ever changing hardware. That is just a plain fact, as some one said some posts ago that "It took thousands of years to perfect bridge building and we have only been programming for 50 or so years." We have just touched to beginning of programming and computer use.
So the next time you think that the public doesn't care about issues, watch the ratings for the nightly news, Bill O'Reily, and CNN
So who do they actually poll? Is it a truly diverse crowd? Then again do you see any other news besides those, and please don't tell me that FOX is a good news source, they are the WWF of News.
Don't assume they are idiots
Never have I made such an assumption. Ones choice of lifestyle does not qualify them as an idiot.
And yes your are totally correct about saying many people are having a hard time trying to make ends meet, but then I see so many people running up credit cards, renting lots of movies, drinking with the friends, and so much more so there must be some money and time somewhere. But I believe that you point about not having time to care is absolutely true. Everyone decides what gets their time and attention. My point was that a lot of people claim they don't even have five minute to write an email, but they have a couple of our to go out with friends or family. I was not saying to rip your life apart and totally dedicate to a cause that is just plain useless, instead just take five minutes here or there and write a letter read sometime, voice you opinion at the right place. Just to make a little change takes a little change not one dramatic change for a week or a month and then revert back.
My intention here was not to offend anyone, even though I obviously have, but just to make people realize that all the time they are spending complaining on the phone, to friends, to newsgroups, and where ever else; they could focus that energy directly towards the cause of their frustrations.
Here it is pal, look at privilege number 2 and you'll find out. And yes this is in America