I know what it is like to be misunderstood. I have this brilliant, gauranteed, money making scheme that no-one has faith in. If you send my £25 I will tell you all about it.
In most places the EULA has no force in law. You cannot have agreed to something that you do not fully understand. Until you install the software you have no way of knowing if it is fit for the purpose for which it is intended. If it is not fit for the purpose for which it is intended you are entitled to return it. EULA cannot take away any rights in law (under British law and most countries have their legal system based on British law).
The answer will still be a US only thing as most countries accept that the license is nonsensicle as you still cannot know about the product until you try it so you do not know what you are agreeing to. I think the status quo is fine because it simply means that licenses are non enforcable for most of us. Copyright rules still apply but only in the legal sense that you are not allowed to copy. You can still sell the thing or use it on your next PC.
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Your dealer will need a card reader, but would you trust him to only take what you owe him?
Here try this, it is real knockout.... now just give me your card before you regain your senses....
as soon as you put a PIN number on it you have changed it from plastic cash to a debit card. I think this is a great idea (I doubt it will fly) because it is anonymous. Lose that anonimity and it has lost all possible purpose. If it is just a debit card why not use a debit card. I cannot give my debit card to my son to use but I could give this to my son to use because it is not owned.
I think this is a good example of new technology being put to good use. I am sure the artist will get their cut, the maker will get his cut and the buyer will get something they really want.
It is time the *IAA stopped fighting technology and started embracing it.
I live in the UK and I do not even have a photo on my driving license. I can lend it to anyone and they can drive my car but then hey, at present we do not need any ID at all to drive a car so they can drive the car anyway and say they are me. I can produce my license later and all is OK.
The current situation is silly and needs change so they have brought out photo licenses (like you have in the US) but no one can make me get one.
This idea will not run but a compromise will be reached like making me get a photo license so that only I can use it. They may expect me to have it when I drive. In the UK the gubment always suggest something like this and by the time it gets through it is something else.
Groan... Deja vu is not like it used to be when I was a boy.
The wonderful thing about altshiemers is that you can send presents to yourself and they are still a surprise when you open them. You also can enjoy/. far more as you can debate the same thing that was debated yesterday without realising.
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Maybe because they realise that they cannot have it all their own way. As Americans get a rapidly worse deal the situation in the rest of the world becomes more obviously different. How do you think it will be in a few years when you can buy things, legally, anywhere else in the world that you cannot buy in the US and everyone in the world can see the stupidity. Even the polititians will start to feel like idiots after a while. A lot of Walt Disney cartoons become free to copy in the rest of the world soon,but not in the US. Will the US start search all mail coming into the country? Or do they have to face up to how absurd the situation already is? Will the US move forward or continue to make a fool of itself?
They would release the source and and make free, Win9x and a lot of people would stay with them. The downside would be that people would see how bad it is. They would still have their other versions to make money out of and they could "free" all software as it becomes obsolete.
I am not advocating this idea as it would be bad for Linux but I do think it would be Microsoft's best move. I think that opening up some of the code does nothing except PR. The people at the mill will still see that it is not open and this makes no difference. They will be the ones that have a say (in any sensible company) and so this move will not make any real difference.
You have to wade a long way into the article before it says:- "It is unclear whether the alleged IP is unassailable and that valid patents or copyrights actually exist or that the Unix libraries are actually in Linux. Reportedly there has been a lot of patent research going on in the Linux community lately and there are supposedly serious doubts SCO has much of anything."
A good book for you to read is "Operation Splinter Factor" which is a true account of the early days of the cold war. The SIS used to send coded messages (content did not matter) to people that we wanted dead and the Russians would kill them for us. There was no need for there to be any understanding of what the message meant as the existance of the message was enough to get the recipient killed.
Not true. If things are fairly priced people are happy to buy them. If a CD was $3 then why would you buy an inferior copy? It would be hard for anyone to provide a copy if they had to combat the economy of scale. The problem is that because the games/music/film industries have a cartel they can rip off the customer and that in itself creates the market and the sympathy for the underground copying. Instead of entering into a fair market these businesses try to enforce their hold by using technical and legal means but in places like Asia this simply does not work.
People here talk about the cheap copies in Asia but the legal versions there are much cheaper in order to combat copies. I buy legal DVDs for $10 in Asia, I could buy copies for less but the quality is crap. If DVDs were $10 at home no-one would even consider the cost of a DVD-R. The situation is the same with music although I can never find my taste in music for sale there. It is all Asian or pop (Britney Spears type stuff).
Nintendo have now got the Cube which uses non-standard disks to combat copying. Although I think this is a good way for them to do it I think someone will find a way to circumvent this soon. Anyone got a lathe?
You assume that the EUCD will become law... Although effected by business most European governments are democracies (unlike the US where only the super rich and big business run the country) and the same pressures do not work. I accept that Blair is too busy bending over for Bush to consider not doing as asked but Europe is much bigger than one country.
I do not seek to explain anything. I only have ideas, not answers. I have not been searched entering LA so I do not see how the rules there would stop anyone from bringing guns into LA. Britain on the other hand, searches most people entering and gun smuggling is not easy; although not impossible.
I do not suggest that any of these issues are as simple as is suggested here (including by me). The gun laws in Britain are too strict and do not allow for reasonable use and the gun laws in the US are too strict and allow anyone and his dog to get weapons that have no other use than killing people.
These are not the points that this discussion is about though. It is an example of pointless controls that have no real effect on the problems they claim to address though. After Columbine a lot of garbage was said about games and guns but the real issue is neglected kids having such abussive lives that they feel the "glory" of a spectacular suicide is an advancement. Why hadn't their parents/school/local government provided them with more worthwhile alternatives. Most of the stupid gun laws in Britain are a result of similar events there. These stupid laws do not stop or change anything, they just stop reasonable people from doing what they want. The unreasonable person will risk capture at customs and bring a gun into the country in his car from France. Not as easy as LA but still possible.
Do you really think that the few shootings in the UK really equate to a crime wave ? Something like 85 fatal shootings in the UK compared to over 11,000 in the US. The blinkers that let you think that having a gun will stop people shooting you is incredible. If the bad guys do not have guns (as is the general rule in the UK, exceptions accepted) you are far less likely to get shot than you are somewhere that anyond can get a gun. There are obvious exceptions to all rules but it is incredible blindness to say that mugging in Britain are higher than in the US because neither the mugger nor the victim have a gun. It is also wrong to say that there are more muggings in the UK. The figure that you misquote was for London compared to NY in one time frame.
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I know what it is like to be misunderstood. I have this brilliant, gauranteed, money making scheme that no-one has faith in. If you send my £25 I will tell you all about it.
In most places the EULA has no force in law. You cannot have agreed to something that you do not fully understand. Until you install the software you have no way of knowing if it is fit for the purpose for which it is intended. If it is not fit for the purpose for which it is intended you are entitled to return it. EULA cannot take away any rights in law (under British law and most countries have their legal system based on British law).
The answer will still be a US only thing as most countries accept that the license is nonsensicle as you still cannot know about the product until you try it so you do not know what you are agreeing to. I think the status quo is fine because it simply means that licenses are non enforcable for most of us. Copyright rules still apply but only in the legal sense that you are not allowed to copy. You can still sell the thing or use it on your next PC.
Your dealer will need a card reader, but would you trust him to only take what you owe him?
Here try this, it is real knockout.... now just give me your card before you regain your senses....
as soon as you put a PIN number on it you have changed it from plastic cash to a debit card. I think this is a great idea (I doubt it will fly) because it is anonymous. Lose that anonimity and it has lost all possible purpose. If it is just a debit card why not use a debit card. I cannot give my debit card to my son to use but I could give this to my son to use because it is not owned.
When the same company ran the idea here in the UK you could transfer card to card. The reason it died here was that they charged too much for it.
I think this is a good example of new technology being put to good use. I am sure the artist will get their cut, the maker will get his cut and the buyer will get something they really want.
It is time the *IAA stopped fighting technology and started embracing it.
Imagine it with Linux...
or even children :)
I live in the UK and I do not even have a photo on my driving license. I can lend it to anyone and they can drive my car but then hey, at present we do not need any ID at all to drive a car so they can drive the car anyway and say they are me. I can produce my license later and all is OK.
The current situation is silly and needs change so they have brought out photo licenses (like you have in the US) but no one can make me get one.
This idea will not run but a compromise will be reached like making me get a photo license so that only I can use it. They may expect me to have it when I drive. In the UK the gubment always suggest something like this and by the time it gets through it is something else.
Anyone that wants NT4 with a GUI front end could always try NT4 from Microsoft.
Groan... Deja vu is not like it used to be when I was a boy.
/. far more as you can debate the same thing that was debated yesterday without realising.
The wonderful thing about altshiemers is that you can send presents to yourself and they are still a surprise when you open them. You also can enjoy
Maybe because they realise that they cannot have it all their own way. As Americans get a rapidly worse deal the situation in the rest of the world becomes more obviously different. How do you think it will be in a few years when you can buy things, legally, anywhere else in the world that you cannot buy in the US and everyone in the world can see the stupidity. Even the polititians will start to feel like idiots after a while. A lot of Walt Disney cartoons become free to copy in the rest of the world soon,but not in the US. Will the US start search all mail coming into the country? Or do they have to face up to how absurd the situation already is? Will the US move forward or continue to make a fool of itself?
and I suppose you wonder why people around the world shoot Americans and blow up the bars they go to?
he still has to find 6 million brains. I lost mine on Saturday night.
They would release the source and and make free, Win9x and a lot of people would stay with them. The downside would be that people would see how bad it is. They would still have their other versions to make money out of and they could "free" all software as it becomes obsolete.
I am not advocating this idea as it would be bad for Linux but I do think it would be Microsoft's best move. I think that opening up some of the code does nothing except PR. The people at the mill will still see that it is not open and this makes no difference. They will be the ones that have a say (in any sensible company) and so this move will not make any real difference.
You have to wade a long way into the article before it says :- "It is unclear whether the alleged IP is unassailable and that valid patents or copyrights actually exist or that the Unix libraries are actually in Linux. Reportedly there has been a lot of patent research going on in the Linux community lately and there are supposedly serious doubts SCO has much of anything."
A good book for you to read is "Operation Splinter Factor" which is a true account of the early days of the cold war. The SIS used to send coded messages (content did not matter) to people that we wanted dead and the Russians would kill them for us. There was no need for there to be any understanding of what the message meant as the existance of the message was enough to get the recipient killed.
Not true. If things are fairly priced people are happy to buy them. If a CD was $3 then why would you buy an inferior copy? It would be hard for anyone to provide a copy if they had to combat the economy of scale. The problem is that because the games/music/film industries have a cartel they can rip off the customer and that in itself creates the market and the sympathy for the underground copying. Instead of entering into a fair market these businesses try to enforce their hold by using technical and legal means but in places like Asia this simply does not work.
People here talk about the cheap copies in Asia but the legal versions there are much cheaper in order to combat copies. I buy legal DVDs for $10 in Asia, I could buy copies for less but the quality is crap. If DVDs were $10 at home no-one would even consider the cost of a DVD-R. The situation is the same with music although I can never find my taste in music for sale there. It is all Asian or pop (Britney Spears type stuff).
Nintendo have now got the Cube which uses non-standard disks to combat copying. Although I think this is a good way for them to do it I think someone will find a way to circumvent this soon. Anyone got a lathe?
I would rather convert one into a camper van and go touring :) I think it would turn some heads :)
You assume that the EUCD will become law... Although effected by business most European governments are democracies (unlike the US where only the super rich and big business run the country) and the same pressures do not work. I accept that Blair is too busy bending over for Bush to consider not doing as asked but Europe is much bigger than one country.
I do not seek to explain anything. I only have ideas, not answers. I have not been searched entering LA so I do not see how the rules there would stop anyone from bringing guns into LA. Britain on the other hand, searches most people entering and gun smuggling is not easy; although not impossible.
I do not suggest that any of these issues are as simple as is suggested here (including by me). The gun laws in Britain are too strict and do not allow for reasonable use and the gun laws in the US are too strict and allow anyone and his dog to get weapons that have no other use than killing people.
These are not the points that this discussion is about though. It is an example of pointless controls that have no real effect on the problems they claim to address though. After Columbine a lot of garbage was said about games and guns but the real issue is neglected kids having such abussive lives that they feel the "glory" of a spectacular suicide is an advancement. Why hadn't their parents/school/local government provided them with more worthwhile alternatives. Most of the stupid gun laws in Britain are a result of similar events there. These stupid laws do not stop or change anything, they just stop reasonable people from doing what they want. The unreasonable person will risk capture at customs and bring a gun into the country in his car from France. Not as easy as LA but still possible.
Do you really think that the few shootings in the UK really equate to a crime wave ? Something like 85 fatal shootings in the UK compared to over 11,000 in the US. The blinkers that let you think that having a gun will stop people shooting you is incredible. If the bad guys do not have guns (as is the general rule in the UK, exceptions accepted) you are far less likely to get shot than you are somewhere that anyond can get a gun. There are obvious exceptions to all rules but it is incredible blindness to say that mugging in Britain are higher than in the US because neither the mugger nor the victim have a gun. It is also wrong to say that there are more muggings in the UK. The figure that you misquote was for London compared to NY in one time frame.
Yes I have played Vice City, I tried it out before I gave it to my 13 year son as a Christmas present. Now I cannot get near it.