Yeah, seconded. I find myself going to www.w3schools.com to look up the stuff I've forgotten. The only thing worse than w3c.org is Sun's java.sun.com. That thing is a complete mess.
Imagine if IBM, rather than extending their PC line with new chips and architecture that was backward compatible, simply dumped everything they'd built and started over. Sounds an awful lot like the PS/2, MicroChannel, OS/2 attempt to me.
I think I'm gonna start a website called "Moron-Quotes" or something like that. Then I can list all the stupid things that Dvorak, Cringely, Enderale, and their ilk spout, without links back to their sites. Maybe that would kill off the avertising bucks these jerks are obviously pulling in.
Sorry, did you say 'ín-house'? I thought Bill canceled all in-house development after 'Microsoft Bob'. "Buy and Brand" became the un-official motto.
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That's just silly. At the time, Navigator was like any other app, of course you should pay for it. Microsoft pulled their favorite bundling trick and gave IE away, for the express purpose of eliminating the competition.
Funny story; it also had the side-effect of saving MS money. I heard that they bought the Spyglass source code rights for a small amount of cash and a promised share of the profits. Since no copies of IE were ever 'sold', Spyglass never got paid. Microsoft never miss a trick, do they?
What I'm saying is that XDoclet is an attempt to fix something broken or cumbersome in the J2EE standard, and it ends up being big and cumbersome, too. Nothing in Java is ever simple, at least nothing in J2EE. There's no way to slim down from the bits you don't need, everything is intertwined.
And more bits get added every day. Servlets weren't good enough, so they added JSP. That needed Struts. That needed Faces. JDBC wasn't good enough, so you got Hibernate. But none of these are replacements, they all build on the previous, increasing the complexity.
Sure you can teach kids in college basic Java, and J2SE, but the server stuff is almost impenetrable. Where do you start?
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The entire Java platform is a mess, it's so complex that most of the Java applications out there are solutions to problems caused by the platform itself.
XDoclet is a great example. Here is a program that reads JavaDoc headers in your EJB source files and looks for special comments. Then, together with Ant and Ant build files, it creates the server XML files that your J2EE app server needs to deploy the EJB. This saves you from writing the XML yourself. What's wrong with this picture?
And XDoclet itself is so complex that there's an entire book from Manning about it!
"Apple has always leveraged technologies that the PC industry has driven to critical mass, the bus structures, the graphics cards, the peripherals, the connection networks, things like that, so they're kind of in the PC ecosystem and kind of not." There's no way he could have said that with a straight face. It should be more like, "the PC industry has always leveraged technologies that Apple pioneered." Stuff like local area networking, laser printers, 3.5 diskettes, digital cameras, USB, Firewire,....
Steve Jackson has been designing brilliant games since before most of you were born. The first wargame I bought, back in 1979, was Metagaming's 'Ogre', designed by Jackson. it's an amazing game, moreso for the price of $2.95 back then. He designed Ogre and it's add-ons and sequels, 'Melee' and it's successor, 'GURPs', 'Car Wars', and a number of other great table-top games. When he started Steve Jackson Games in the early '80s and started publishing "The Space Gamer" magazine, he introduced many to the concepts of game design. The Space Gamer published an early article by Lord British, describing how 3-D graphics could be created on Apple II hardware. Steve Jackson probably understands playability and balance like few others, and any MMORPG that he would be involved with would be of serious interest.
Yes, they invented it, and used it for the Outlook Web Portal years ago, but they didn't do anything else with it, and they didn't even document it properly. Do a Google search for "XMLHTTPRequest" and the top hit is an Apple developer's article. Apparently, Microsoft thought so little of it, they didn't bother to tell anybody. Way to support your 'developers, developers, developers'.
JavaScript? You want JavaScript? Visit the site with Firefox and the Developer Tools, view the JavaScript source, and be amazed! Tons of code, most of it proof-of-concept quality. Tons of comments along the order of "Fix this later'. If I was Bill, I'd be bloody humiliated to release this to the public. I honestly wonder if the coders at Microsoft know that we can see their code? At least the JS isn't Hungarian notation.:P
Edgar Bronfman, Jr. does not know a lot of things. He inherited the Seagram fortune, sold its $9 Billion stock of Dupont to buy MCA, for the sole purpose of becoming a media mogul. He's failed miserably. Here's a great article about him on Slate. I especially like this quote, "Edgar Jr. has been designated the movie industry's official idiot--a 42-year-old child who's squandering his family (and his shareholders') fortune on romantic Tinseltown fantasies."
Don't think he speaks for the entertainment industry; he's an idiot even among those morons.
The extent of Microsoft 'courting' Square-Enix is that FF XI will be available for the XBox 360, a couple of years after the PC and PS2 version. Not really a major coup.
Sorry, Ryerson isn't really a university, anyway. It's a community college, known to the locals as 'Rye High', that was only recently granted 'university' status. I doubt much has changed other than the name.
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Geez! Are you the guy that keeps asking this same question every 5 minutes on #sqlonrails? RTMFM already!
Yeah, seconded. I find myself going to www.w3schools.com to look up the stuff I've forgotten. The only thing worse than w3c.org is Sun's java.sun.com. That thing is a complete mess.
Imagine if IBM, rather than extending their PC line with new chips and architecture that was backward compatible, simply dumped everything they'd built and started over.
Sounds an awful lot like the PS/2, MicroChannel, OS/2 attempt to me.
I think I'm gonna start a website called "Moron-Quotes" or something like that. Then I can list all the stupid things that Dvorak, Cringely, Enderale, and their ilk spout, without links back to their sites. Maybe that would kill off the avertising bucks these jerks are obviously pulling in.
Thank you for that. I think the I, Robot script was just too far ahead of its time. There was no way it could have been filmed without massive CGI.
Sorry, did you say 'ín-house'? I thought Bill canceled all in-house development after 'Microsoft Bob'. "Buy and Brand" became the un-official motto.
That's just silly. At the time, Navigator was like any other app, of course you should pay for it. Microsoft pulled their favorite bundling trick and gave IE away, for the express purpose of eliminating the competition.
Funny story; it also had the side-effect of saving MS money. I heard that they bought the Spyglass source code rights for a small amount of cash and a promised share of the profits. Since no copies of IE were ever 'sold', Spyglass never got paid. Microsoft never miss a trick, do they?
What I'm saying is that XDoclet is an attempt to fix something broken or cumbersome in the J2EE standard, and it ends up being big and cumbersome, too. Nothing in Java is ever simple, at least nothing in J2EE. There's no way to slim down from the bits you don't need, everything is intertwined.
And more bits get added every day. Servlets weren't good enough, so they added JSP. That needed Struts. That needed Faces. JDBC wasn't good enough, so you got Hibernate. But none of these are replacements, they all build on the previous, increasing the complexity.
Sure you can teach kids in college basic Java, and J2SE, but the server stuff is almost impenetrable. Where do you start?
The entire Java platform is a mess, it's so complex that most of the Java applications out there are solutions to problems caused by the platform itself.
XDoclet is a great example. Here is a program that reads JavaDoc headers in your EJB source files and looks for special comments. Then, together with Ant and Ant build files, it creates the server XML files that your J2EE app server needs to deploy the EJB. This saves you from writing the XML yourself. What's wrong with this picture?
And XDoclet itself is so complex that there's an entire book from Manning about it!
You forgot my favourite, Apache vs. IIS. ...
Oh, wait
Based on the brilliant business plans of Infinium Labs and Gizmondo, the secret plan is:
1. Start new video game hardware company,
2. Dupe foolish investors with cardboard mock-ups,
3. Profit!!!!
But maybe if they had been doing those in the first place they wouldn't be patching it now.
Because the UK price includes the 17% VAT?
"Apple has always leveraged technologies that the PC industry has driven to critical mass, the bus structures, the graphics cards, the peripherals, the connection networks, things like that, so they're kind of in the PC ecosystem and kind of not." ....
There's no way he could have said that with a straight face. It should be more like, "the PC industry has always leveraged technologies that Apple pioneered." Stuff like local area networking, laser printers, 3.5 diskettes, digital cameras, USB, Firewire,
Steve Jackson has been designing brilliant games since before most of you were born.
The first wargame I bought, back in 1979, was Metagaming's 'Ogre', designed by Jackson. it's an amazing game, moreso for the price of $2.95 back then.
He designed Ogre and it's add-ons and sequels, 'Melee' and it's successor, 'GURPs', 'Car Wars', and a number of other great table-top games.
When he started Steve Jackson Games in the early '80s and started publishing "The Space Gamer" magazine, he introduced many to the concepts of game design. The Space Gamer published an early article by Lord British, describing how 3-D graphics could be created on Apple II hardware.
Steve Jackson probably understands playability and balance like few others, and any MMORPG that he would be involved with would be of serious interest.
You do realize that photo is unique.
It's the only Windows laptop in the world that has never crashed.
Yes, they invented it, and used it for the Outlook Web Portal years ago, but they didn't do anything else with it, and they didn't even document it properly. Do a Google search for "XMLHTTPRequest" and the top hit is an Apple developer's article.
Apparently, Microsoft thought so little of it, they didn't bother to tell anybody. Way to support your 'developers, developers, developers'.
JavaScript? You want JavaScript? Visit the site with Firefox and the Developer Tools, view the JavaScript source, and be amazed! Tons of code, most of it proof-of-concept quality. Tons of comments along the order of "Fix this later'. If I was Bill, I'd be bloody humiliated to release this to the public. :P
I honestly wonder if the coders at Microsoft know that we can see their code? At least the JS isn't Hungarian notation.
Yes, but Windows servers have an uptime bug, too. It's called "Windows Server".
Edgar Bronfman, Jr. does not know a lot of things. He inherited the Seagram fortune, sold its $9 Billion stock of Dupont to buy MCA, for the sole purpose of becoming a media mogul. He's failed miserably. Here's a great article about him on Slate. I especially like this quote, "Edgar Jr. has been designated the movie industry's official idiot--a 42-year-old child who's squandering his family (and his shareholders') fortune on romantic Tinseltown fantasies."
Don't think he speaks for the entertainment industry; he's an idiot even among those morons.
Hang on, you left out that cow at the Yankee Group.
The extent of Microsoft 'courting' Square-Enix is that FF XI will be available for the XBox 360, a couple of years after the PC and PS2 version. Not really a major coup.
I call bullshit. George barely knows how to operate his freaking iPod. ...
I'll bet his 'computer' is just an Etch-a-sketch painted white
While they're at it, they should drop the first 'S' as well. It's no longer simple at all.
I dunno, calling it 'S' just doesn't seem to work, somehow.
Sorry, Ryerson isn't really a university, anyway. It's a community college, known to the locals as 'Rye High', that was only recently granted 'university' status. I doubt much has changed other than the name.