*this* is the type of reply that chaps my hide - the point is that they *all* do this to some degree. If you move from AT&T, you just end up with another service that hoses your rights in another way.
No, that's not about it - especially since AT&T is just one of many doing the same crap. Yes, AT&T is bad, but that's not the only problem - the greater problem is that there are a ton of online companies perfectly willing to crap all over our rights.
Sure, you can tell AT&T to shove off, but that doesn't solve the greater problem.
So are we going to have to draft a bill of rights and ask all online providers, from ISP's to online service companies, to sign it? Is that even remotely possible?
Here's a stab at some of the rights I'd like to see protected:
1. You may not restrict the right to access, download, store, manage, edit, and publish my data on the platform and web site of my choosing. Period. 2. You may not terminate my account for political statements, inappropriate language, statements of sexual nature, religious commentary, or statements critical of your service, with exceptions for specific laws, eg. hate speech, where they apply
Why wouldn't you beat your competitors over the head with it? This is a lesson that companies will need to be reminded of, over and over again. There are many advantages to being more open and accessible than your competition, with many case studies to back that statement. Of course, there are also a couple of disadvantages, too - but if you're smart, you'll understand how to play it correctly.
We know we're about to get sued up the wazzoo for all our fact-free claims from the last 4 years, and we just wanted to take a moment to tell you future litigators that our money is now behind closed doors, so bugger off, suckers!
If I were an Apple marketdroid, and I had an inkling that other freed phones were coming out, like say, OpenMoko, I might think to myself...
1. yeah, we can do a hackable phone, or... 2. we'll sort of lock it up, but make it just hackable enough so that droves of hackers will toil away to open it up, then...
2a. step back while we get lots of free publicity as the media rush to report about every latest hack
2b. profit!
Now I'm no Apple marketdroid, but I'm just sayin'...
-John Mark
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I, too, have never understood geek fascination with ninjas and the like - on a side note, it does make for some amusing images at DefCon. I believe my local dr.-phil-trained tele-pop-psychologist would call this "over-compensation." But far be it from me to make such an assertion;)
So, is there some kind of standard for data centers for computing power - some combination of raw processing and data throughput - per megawatt? I mean, is there some magic number that data centers should try to achieve? And if there is, how do you measure that?
Oh and of course, it doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the airline industry that a single point of failure can bring down a whole system. What about hard drives? Do they have contingency plans for when these fail? Memory?
Yeah, my employer makes monitoring software, so obviously I'm biased here, but... are you freaking joking me? They couldn't bother to install a monitoring system to warn them their NIC was fried? Hmm... I can think of one offhand;)
Please explain to me what ODF has to do with Linux. Oh, right... NOTHING. This is not a platform issue. Remember, whenever certain companies talk about users being "forced" into choosing ODF, it's their own doing - they chose not to be open, and they chose not to participate in the ODF process. They could have supported ODF from the beginning and chose not to - a pox on them.
I realize you're just a troll, but that was pretty stupid.
1. I was pretty clear about my intent. If people don't like it, they'll mod it down. No, there are not thousands of commercial products, open sourcer or not, that support Feisty.
2. "support" is actually 2-fold: you can monitor Feisty Fawn machines with HQ and you can run HQ server and agent on Feisty Fawn. Really, I just wanted to point out that it takes a minimal amount of time to monitor new software with HQ, due to our architecture.
Look, I love Ubuntu, and I agree that it's a drag we don't yet have.debs. However, the fact that it's so easy to add new servers to HQ is really to Ubuntu's advantage - makes it easier for IT operations to support it, along with all the other systems they have to manage.
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-John Mark
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I mean, any attempt at humor just detracts from the unintentional comedy laid at our feet.
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*this* is the type of reply that chaps my hide - the point is that they *all* do this to some degree. If you move from AT&T, you just end up with another service that hoses your rights in another way.
You are right, of course, but I'm trying to think of a way to get actual companies to sign on. Quixotic? Perhaps...
-John Mark
No, that's not about it - especially since AT&T is just one of many doing the same crap. Yes, AT&T is bad, but that's not the only problem - the greater problem is that there are a ton of online companies perfectly willing to crap all over our rights.
Sure, you can tell AT&T to shove off, but that doesn't solve the greater problem.
-John Mark
Ok, I don't ordinarily reply to myself, but here's a wiki where I've put this, for now:
http://www.bytesfree.org/wiki/index.php/Bill_of_Rights
-John Mark
So are we going to have to draft a bill of rights and ask all online providers, from ISP's to online service companies, to sign it? Is that even remotely possible?
Here's a stab at some of the rights I'd like to see protected:
1. You may not restrict the right to access, download, store, manage, edit, and publish my data on the platform and web site of my choosing. Period.
2. You may not terminate my account for political statements, inappropriate language, statements of sexual nature, religious commentary, or statements critical of your service, with exceptions for specific laws, eg. hate speech, where they apply
Hmm... that's a good start. Any others to add?
-John Mark
Why wouldn't you beat your competitors over the head with it? This is a lesson that companies will need to be reminded of, over and over again. There are many advantages to being more open and accessible than your competition, with many case studies to back that statement. Of course, there are also a couple of disadvantages, too - but if you're smart, you'll understand how to play it correctly.
-John Mark
Couldn't happen at a better time, since I fired AT&T a couple of weeks ago and went with Earthlink for phone and internet service.
Yeah, no company is perfect, but I'm convinced AT&T is Evil.
Yeah, but my /. ID is older, so nyah nyah nyah ;)
I added my own wrinkle to the smiley - witness the smiley pig: :@)
:@D :@D :@D
I did it as an homage to the Arkansas Razorbacks... and so should you
-John Mark
We know we're about to get sued up the wazzoo for all our fact-free claims from the last 4 years, and we just wanted to take a moment to tell you future litigators that our money is now behind closed doors, so bugger off, suckers!
Can't believe it's currently only modded at "1"
If I were an Apple marketdroid, and I had an inkling that other freed phones were coming out, like say, OpenMoko, I might think to myself...
1. yeah, we can do a hackable phone, or...
2. we'll sort of lock it up, but make it just hackable enough so that droves of hackers will toil away to open it up, then...
2a. step back while we get lots of free publicity as the media rush to report about every latest hack
2b. profit!
Now I'm no Apple marketdroid, but I'm just sayin'...
-John Mark
Phr34k1ng M0r0n?
I, too, have never understood geek fascination with ninjas and the like - on a side note, it does make for some amusing images at DefCon. I believe my local dr.-phil-trained tele-pop-psychologist would call this "over-compensation." But far be it from me to make such an assertion ;)
-John Mark
So, is there some kind of standard for data centers for computing power - some combination of raw processing and data throughput - per megawatt? I mean, is there some magic number that data centers should try to achieve? And if there is, how do you measure that?
-John Mark
Oh and of course, it doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the airline industry that a single point of failure can bring down a whole system. What about hard drives? Do they have contingency plans for when these fail? Memory?
-John Mark
Yeah, my employer makes monitoring software, so obviously I'm biased here, but... are you freaking joking me? They couldn't bother to install a monitoring system to warn them their NIC was fried? Hmm... I can think of one offhand ;)
-John Mark
Yeah, NOBODY uses unencrypted FTP anymore... *sigh*
-John Mark
sigh... move along, nothing to see here.
Please explain to me what ODF has to do with Linux. Oh, right... NOTHING. This is not a platform issue. Remember, whenever certain companies talk about users being "forced" into choosing ODF, it's their own doing - they chose not to be open, and they chose not to participate in the ODF process. They could have supported ODF from the beginning and chose not to - a pox on them.
I realize you're just a troll, but that was pretty stupid.
1. I was pretty clear about my intent. If people don't like it, they'll mod it down. No, there are not thousands of commercial products, open sourcer or not, that support Feisty.
.debs. However, the fact that it's so easy to add new servers to HQ is really to Ubuntu's advantage - makes it easier for IT operations to support it, along with all the other systems they have to manage.
2. "support" is actually 2-fold: you can monitor Feisty Fawn machines with HQ and you can run HQ server and agent on Feisty Fawn. Really, I just wanted to point out that it takes a minimal amount of time to monitor new software with HQ, due to our architecture.
Look, I love Ubuntu, and I agree that it's a drag we don't yet have
-JM