From the page: You are looking at the coolest iPod accessory in the world. The iTrip FM transmitter for the iPod can play your music through any FM radio in your car, at a party, wherever the mood strikes you - and you have a radio.
BTW, I'm both a gamer and a geek and proud of being both.
Dude, seriously, there is a limit to everything.
I like playing games, probably spend an hour a day in average (I sometimes play an entire weekend, bringing up the average quite a bit).
However, I am not the least proud of it, nor does it bother me.
I do it because I think its fun, and I don't let it become my identity, which it appears is what you have done.
I remember an old DOS virus that, whenever I typed a dot, a dinosaur looking thing would eat it up. It would also do the same with backslashes, so moving backwards through folders was kinda difficult.
While certain IM protocols use HTTP, the thing that differentiates IM from everything else is the port--HTTP is 80, Yahoo is 5050, AIM is 5190, and MSN messenger is 1863.
Not true, most of these can be configured to go out on port 80, you just said what the default ports are.
Yahoo will do it automatically, MSN will auto configure itself to use a HTTP proxy on port 80, ICQ/AIM can be configured to connect to the server on port 80, or be configured to use a HTTP proxy server on port 80.
I can add that most of them work on many more standard ports, including SMTP(25) and FTP(21).
If I were a brokerage firm IT manager, I'd be using NAT, and block every outgoing port--including:80. Set up a local HTTP proxy on:8080 and configure the proxy server to disallow certain sites like proxy.aol.com.
To comply with logging requirements, I'd tell employees to use an AIM client like gaim (there are win32 ports) that enable connection to a specific server and port, which would be the proxy server.
You can just use the standard AIM client, it allows you to configure proxies and ports.
You do have some interesting points though. I think if you modify the idea slightly, you should be able to produce a workable solution. I'm gonna think about it a little later, just have to work right now:(
I agree, I don't think Sweden suxx. I actually think it's a nice country, and my personal opinion is that I will move back when I have enough money to buy a house and a car. I just won't move back right now, because my current salary will put me in the 60% bracket.
I didn't type the subject of the thread, I only replied to it.
As you said, they have the ability to log it on a client level. Imagine a company with 500 000 machines. Are you going to collect logs from each and every one every single day?? Even if you saved the logs on a network drive, do you want 500 000 different files per day?
The difficulty is logging the traffic on a server level. The reasons are many. I think this article describes them fairly well.
Basically, IM traffic tries to hide itself, generally as HTTP traffic. Yahoo for example prepends a HTTP header to all packets, thereby being disguised as a HTTP GET request. AOL/ICQ/MSN has the ability to use HTTP Proxy servers, and AOL provides www.proxy.aol.com for free (port 80, no pass).
MSN will auto-configure itself to use a proxy server if direct access is blocked.
I would love to see the profe of this "Sweden has the highest tax-pressure per person in the world".
Here you go:
http://www.worldtaxpayers.org/argument.htm
A clip from the article:
Sweden, with a very large public sector and a tax burden that is higher than any other country in the world, is perhaps the best example of the direct relationship between taxation pressure and economic growth.
I'm from Sweden too, but haven't lived in the country for closing in to 8 years now (didn't even realize how long it has been).
I agree with you, Sweden is not the worst country in the world, and I actually miss it from time to time. However, up-until-today, it has been the taxes that kept me away (Sweden has the highest tax-pressure per person in the world, and I don't want to pay taxes).
My current job involves reverse-engineering code. So far, it is all legal. However, with this law, I guess I can never do my job in Sweden.
I wonder if the Swedish government actually realizes that the tax on blank DVDs are more than the DVD itself, as well as the fact that we live in a world where ordering blank DVDs from, for example, the UK, is two clicks away (one click away would mean you ordered it from amazon).
This sounds like the "war-on-drugs" fisco in the US, where they ended up turning 35% of the population into criminals, combined with prisons that are so full they'd burst soon.
Has anyone else noticed that Swedes are the some of the best file-sharers in the world? It's largely because they have such awesome upload caps
Actually, we don't have caps. I have friends who have their 512Kbit ADSL downloding all day, they dl around 5 gigs a day, and have been doing so for months (one would think they'd run out of things to DL, but they seem to manage to find it).
I think that Sweds share a lot of data because of the connection speeds being offered in the country. How does an uncapped line, 26MBit both directions for $45 a month sound?
Living in any of the bigger cities, you can get 26MBit ADSL, 10MBit ADSL and 11MBit wireless (works in the major part of most larger cities) for less than $50 a month. On top of that, SUNET (Swedish University Network) is giving most stdents in Sweden a 10MBit line. Sunet itself is many gigabits (don't remember how many exactly).
With connections like that, it's not difficult to see why a lot of data comes and goes from the country.
with the aim of preventing or limiting users' ability to copy, or "rip," them
Step 1: Stop people from ripping CDs/DVDs.
Step 2: Detect soundcards and gfx cards in computers and don't play the media if detected.
Step 3: Stop producing CDs and DVDs, just charge people anyways.
Step 4: Make $$$
Well, alright, slightly exadurated (hope I spelt that word right), but still, it shows the stupidity in some of these things.
Now, I don't mind copy protection and I do understand the need for it, but seriously, isn't there a limit. We are getting passed the point where these things are usable all together.
....HAHHORHOA!!! M$ SUX0RZ!!!
Followed by:
your opinion is shit.
Thanks man... your post made me see the entire world in a new way... your opinion is shit. must be the best argument I have ever heard.
But maybe if you've spent more than 10% of your time using it you would realize that.
I guess I'm going blind, as I fail to see where in my post I say that I use XP 10% of my time.
I don't normally enter these shit-throwing competitions, but I was a little bored at work today:)
I use XP like that too (for work when required)... I just wouldn't install it on my own computer (even for a MS OS, XP IMHO is extremly bad), which is what I thought you did.
It's ridiculous that I have not been able to apply a service pack with security fixes because the license differs from the OS such that it imposes untenable terms.
In my opinion, the ridiculous part is that you are using XP.
Time to start the clock and see how long it takes for this post to get to -1. Well, as I've said before, atleast I got to state my opinions.
I agree, this is a case of Microsoft actually listening. However, the reason can be discussed. I believe that they "listened", because it made no difference to them. It was more a case of miswording the EULA than actually wanting to add patches people wouldn't agree with. Ofcourse, this is just what I believe.
My point is that writing a piece of software does not automatically entitle you to a cash reward.
We're talking about gamecube games here (look that story this thread is under). Games that are released in shops and sold for money. I am pretty certain that the people creating these games have real jobs, which is creating these games.
So how come you think is it stealing if I make my own game discs using my own blank discs and computer?
ehh..?? Let's see, you bake the muffins using your own ingredients. You create a CD using someone elses ingredients (software in this case).. and you fail to see why it is stealing?
To make this accurate, it should be: I make my own muffins using my own oven etc, but I get all the ingredients for free from a shop, without the shop actually agreeing to give it to me.
I agree with the first post saying that it's not stealing, but that it is a crime. However, in your case I fail to see the logic all together.
But even if this thing cost £200, you'd still be saving money after your 5th game.
IMHO, you didnt save any money, you stole it.
Why is it that people don't consider pirating stealing?
Arguments for pirating such as: "I wouldn't have bought the game if I hadn't pirated it, so they didn't loose any money of me" simply do not hold. I rarely hear someone say: "I stole a game today by downloading it of the net, but I have no moral problems with this"
If you wouldn't have bought the game, then don't copy it and don't play it. If you want to play the game, then buy it.
I don't really care if people copy stuff, I know I'm not 100% legal myself, even though I try to be. Sometimes I just cant afford it, in which case I knowingly steal from the company that made the app (don't really copy games, as they are cheap enough to buy).
Just don't try to justify piracy.
The try-b4-buy argument is fairly useless too, as there are either demos you can DL, or you can try the game in the shop.
BTW: I know you didn't try to justify copying in your original post, and this is not ment as a direct response to your post, just seemed to be a good one to hit reply on:)
Guess it's time to get modded down, but what the heck, atleast I got to state my opinions...
Dude, seriously, you're wondering how to get these?
So far, rumor has it:) that you can find it of IRC, DirectConnect, Kazaa (even though most is crap and not the real thing) and private warez sites.
I haven't downloaded this myself, as I couldn't really care less, but I don't really agree with piracy on the GC.
I like the Nintendo games, and Nintendo is one of the gaming companies I would not like to see die. Seriously, who doesn't remember the original SMB?
Just thinking about ice climber, SMB, Zelda, Metroid, not to mention super bomber man on the SNES, makes me remember how good games used to be in regards to gameplay.
Coming to think about it, Nintendo owes me a lot of mis-spent time:)
Why do they do this??
What's the point of saving this kind of information? Can anyone actually come up with a good reason for saving this info. I mean, really, who cares what files people download (except RIAA and MPAA that is).
I fail to see what use AOL/Netscape will have of this info.
In regards to the low amount of money, it was probably because they were only saving filenames. It may be personal info, but IMHO still not too bad. I mean, if they'd tell me they were collecting this, I probably wouldn't care, even if I was using Netscape.
It is kinda funny that this story came up on/. today, just as I was reading a story in a swedish newspaper about the black box in SAAB cars and how the data can be used.
Based on this story, it seems that anyone can use the data from the black box in any way they see fit --- in the US.
In Sweden, this would break a law called PUL. For the Police and/or insurance companied to be able to use the data from the black box, the owner of the car must agree to the data being used. The owner of the car can simply refuse and say that no-one is allowed to use the data, in which case it shouldn't affect the owner in any way.
I guess the data can be useful, and it is good that it is there, but I do like the fact that I get to choose wether or not the data should be used.
As there is no law saying the box must be working, if I was in the US, I'd disconnect mine for sure!
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Any rewards for turning people in? :)
I'm sure you meant to say: Any rewards for tuning people in?
For all you people (like myself) who had no idea what iTrip is/was, here's the link from googles cache.
From the page: You are looking at the coolest iPod accessory in the world. The iTrip FM transmitter for the iPod can play your music through any FM radio in your car, at a party, wherever the mood strikes you - and you have a radio.
hmmm....
BTW, I'm both a gamer and a geek and proud of being both.
Dude, seriously, there is a limit to everything.
I like playing games, probably spend an hour a day in average (I sometimes play an entire weekend, bringing up the average quite a bit). However, I am not the least proud of it, nor does it bother me. I do it because I think its fun, and I don't let it become my identity, which it appears is what you have done.
My opinions anyways...
I remember an old DOS virus that, whenever I typed a dot, a dinosaur looking thing would eat it up. It would also do the same with backslashes, so moving backwards through folders was kinda difficult.
While certain IM protocols use HTTP, the thing that differentiates IM from everything else is the port--HTTP is 80, Yahoo is 5050, AIM is 5190, and MSN messenger is 1863.
:80. Set up a local HTTP proxy on :8080 and configure the proxy server to disallow certain sites like proxy.aol.com.
:(
Not true, most of these can be configured to go out on port 80, you just said what the default ports are.
Yahoo will do it automatically, MSN will auto configure itself to use a HTTP proxy on port 80, ICQ/AIM can be configured to connect to the server on port 80, or be configured to use a HTTP proxy server on port 80.
I can add that most of them work on many more standard ports, including SMTP(25) and FTP(21).
If I were a brokerage firm IT manager, I'd be using NAT, and block every outgoing port--including
Good idea, if it wasnt for this.
To comply with logging requirements, I'd tell employees to use an AIM client like gaim (there are win32 ports) that enable connection to a specific server and port, which would be the proxy server.
You can just use the standard AIM client, it allows you to configure proxies and ports.
You do have some interesting points though. I think if you modify the idea slightly, you should be able to produce a workable solution. I'm gonna think about it a little later, just have to work right now
I agree, I don't think Sweden suxx. I actually think it's a nice country, and my personal opinion is that I will move back when I have enough money to buy a house and a car. I just won't move back right now, because my current salary will put me in the 60% bracket.
I didn't type the subject of the thread, I only replied to it.
As you said, they have the ability to log it on a client level. Imagine a company with 500 000 machines. Are you going to collect logs from each and every one every single day?? Even if you saved the logs on a network drive, do you want 500 000 different files per day?
The difficulty is logging the traffic on a server level. The reasons are many. I think this article describes them fairly well.
Basically, IM traffic tries to hide itself, generally as HTTP traffic. Yahoo for example prepends a HTTP header to all packets, thereby being disguised as a HTTP GET request. AOL/ICQ/MSN has the ability to use HTTP Proxy servers, and AOL provides www.proxy.aol.com for free (port 80, no pass). MSN will auto-configure itself to use a proxy server if direct access is blocked.
Here's the result of logging IM traffic on a client level.
I would love to see the profe of this "Sweden has the highest tax-pressure per person in the world".
Here you go:
http://www.worldtaxpayers.org/argument.htm
A clip from the article:
Sweden, with a very large public sector and a tax burden that is higher than any other country in the world, is perhaps the best example of the direct relationship between taxation pressure and economic growth.
I'm from Sweden too, but haven't lived in the country for closing in to 8 years now (didn't even realize how long it has been).
I agree with you, Sweden is not the worst country in the world, and I actually miss it from time to time. However, up-until-today, it has been the taxes that kept me away (Sweden has the highest tax-pressure per person in the world, and I don't want to pay taxes).
My current job involves reverse-engineering code. So far, it is all legal. However, with this law, I guess I can never do my job in Sweden.
I wonder if the Swedish government actually realizes that the tax on blank DVDs are more than the DVD itself, as well as the fact that we live in a world where ordering blank DVDs from, for example, the UK, is two clicks away (one click away would mean you ordered it from amazon).
This sounds like the "war-on-drugs" fisco in the US, where they ended up turning 35% of the population into criminals, combined with prisons that are so full they'd burst soon.
Has anyone else noticed that Swedes are the some of the best file-sharers in the world? It's largely because they have such awesome upload caps
Actually, we don't have caps. I have friends who have their 512Kbit ADSL downloding all day, they dl around 5 gigs a day, and have been doing so for months (one would think they'd run out of things to DL, but they seem to manage to find it).
I think that Sweds share a lot of data because of the connection speeds being offered in the country. How does an uncapped line, 26MBit both directions for $45 a month sound?
Living in any of the bigger cities, you can get 26MBit ADSL, 10MBit ADSL and 11MBit wireless (works in the major part of most larger cities) for less than $50 a month. On top of that, SUNET (Swedish University Network) is giving most stdents in Sweden a 10MBit line. Sunet itself is many gigabits (don't remember how many exactly).
With connections like that, it's not difficult to see why a lot of data comes and goes from the country.
... is what you need. But be careful, use it too much and you might start thinking Phil Collins is good instead of TIM-TIM-TIMMY!!
with the aim of preventing or limiting users' ability to copy, or "rip," them
Step 1: Stop people from ripping CDs/DVDs.
Step 2: Detect soundcards and gfx cards in computers and don't play the media if detected.
Step 3: Stop producing CDs and DVDs, just charge people anyways.
Step 4: Make $$$
Well, alright, slightly exadurated (hope I spelt that word right), but still, it shows the stupidity in some of these things.
Now, I don't mind copy protection and I do understand the need for it, but seriously, isn't there a limit. We are getting passed the point where these things are usable all together.
Followed by:
your opinion is shit.
Thanks man... your post made me see the entire world in a new way... your opinion is shit. must be the best argument I have ever heard.
But maybe if you've spent more than 10% of your time using it you would realize that.
I guess I'm going blind, as I fail to see where in my post I say that I use XP 10% of my time.
I don't normally enter these shit-throwing competitions, but I was a little bored at work today
I use XP like that too (for work when required)... I just wouldn't install it on my own computer (even for a MS OS, XP IMHO is extremly bad), which is what I thought you did.
It's ridiculous that I have not been able to apply a service pack with security fixes because the license differs from the OS such that it imposes untenable terms.
In my opinion, the ridiculous part is that you are using XP.
Time to start the clock and see how long it takes for this post to get to -1. Well, as I've said before, atleast I got to state my opinions.
I agree, this is a case of Microsoft actually listening. However, the reason can be discussed. I believe that they "listened", because it made no difference to them. It was more a case of miswording the EULA than actually wanting to add patches people wouldn't agree with. Ofcourse, this is just what I believe.
Note: I'm 100% legal.
:)
:)
You're over 18 then?
Sorry, I tried, but I couldn't resist posting that one..
My point is that writing a piece of software does not automatically entitle you to a cash reward.
We're talking about gamecube games here (look that story this thread is under). Games that are released in shops and sold for money. I am pretty certain that the people creating these games have real jobs, which is creating these games.
So how come you think is it stealing if I make my own game discs using my own blank discs and computer?
ehh..??
Let's see, you bake the muffins using your own ingredients. You create a CD using someone elses ingredients (software in this case).. and you fail to see why it is stealing?
To make this accurate, it should be: I make my own muffins using my own oven etc, but I get all the ingredients for free from a shop, without the shop actually agreeing to give it to me.
I agree with the first post saying that it's not stealing, but that it is a crime. However, in your case I fail to see the logic all together.
But even if this thing cost £200, you'd still be saving money after your 5th game.
:)
IMHO, you didnt save any money, you stole it.
Why is it that people don't consider pirating stealing?
Arguments for pirating such as: "I wouldn't have bought the game if I hadn't pirated it, so they didn't loose any money of me" simply do not hold. I rarely hear someone say: "I stole a game today by downloading it of the net, but I have no moral problems with this"
If you wouldn't have bought the game, then don't copy it and don't play it. If you want to play the game, then buy it.
I don't really care if people copy stuff, I know I'm not 100% legal myself, even though I try to be. Sometimes I just cant afford it, in which case I knowingly steal from the company that made the app (don't really copy games, as they are cheap enough to buy). Just don't try to justify piracy.
The try-b4-buy argument is fairly useless too, as there are either demos you can DL, or you can try the game in the shop.
BTW: I know you didn't try to justify copying in your original post, and this is not ment as a direct response to your post, just seemed to be a good one to hit reply on
Guess it's time to get modded down, but what the heck, atleast I got to state my opinions...
Dude, seriously, you're wondering how to get these?
:) that you can find it of IRC, DirectConnect, Kazaa (even though most is crap and not the real thing) and private warez sites.
:)
:)
So far, rumor has it
I haven't downloaded this myself, as I couldn't really care less, but I don't really agree with piracy on the GC.
I like the Nintendo games, and Nintendo is one of the gaming companies I would not like to see die. Seriously, who doesn't remember the original SMB?
Just thinking about ice climber, SMB, Zelda, Metroid, not to mention super bomber man on the SNES, makes me remember how good games used to be in regards to gameplay.
Coming to think about it, Nintendo owes me a lot of mis-spent time
Anyways, guess I should stop typing now
1. Collect information. 2. Do statistical analysis and correlations. 3. $$$$
;)
You mean to say the underpant gnomes actually figured out step 2
Why do they do this??
What's the point of saving this kind of information? Can anyone actually come up with a good reason for saving this info. I mean, really, who cares what files people download (except RIAA and MPAA that is).
I fail to see what use AOL/Netscape will have of this info.
In regards to the low amount of money, it was probably because they were only saving filenames. It may be personal info, but IMHO still not too bad. I mean, if they'd tell me they were collecting this, I probably wouldn't care, even if I was using Netscape.
It is kinda funny that this story came up on /. today, just as I was reading a story in a swedish newspaper about the black box in SAAB cars and how the data can be used.
Based on this story, it seems that anyone can use the data from the black box in any way they see fit --- in the US.
In Sweden, this would break a law called PUL. For the Police and/or insurance companied to be able to use the data from the black box, the owner of the car must agree to the data being used. The owner of the car can simply refuse and say that no-one is allowed to use the data, in which case it shouldn't affect the owner in any way.
I guess the data can be useful, and it is good that it is there, but I do like the fact that I get to choose wether or not the data should be used.
As there is no law saying the box must be working, if I was in the US, I'd disconnect mine for sure!