Access is used much more than you may think. There are a ton of people who make a living just making Access databases for companies. A lot of times they change the UI very dramatically and it doesn't look like Access to the end user.
Access does wonders for creating small database programs quickly and efficiently. Does it scale to the same level as SQL Server, probably not. However, to claim that it is useless is ignorant to the insane amount of uses is is currently having this very day.
1) compared to what? If your curriculum is not time consuming, why are you paying so much money for so little amount of material being fed to you. Most of my non-CS friends spent quite a bit of time in their majors as well.
2) You obviously have never been on a Microsoft interview. I can speak from personal experience, on both sides of the Microsoft interivew. We do ask a lot of tough questions and such but to call the interviews de-humanizing? I have never heard that from any candidate nor did I or any of my friends who interviewed (most of whom did not get accepted) say that about the interview process.
3) If you are going to take a job because you are getting free soda, that is pathetic. If you are going to work an 80 hour week at minimum wage after getting a CS degree, that is also pretty poor job selection skills.
4) You would have to be a really horrible programmer (or whatever job you are doing in the CS fields) to be fired at 28 for being too old. I guess I should expect my pink slip soon?
You are trying to change the topic...this is not a discussion about the security issues with Microsoft Windows. I would agree that the OS should be secure but that is a different conversation.
Would I expect my operating system, my experienced computer friend's OS, or my grandmother's OS to play media and be able to browse the internet. Absolutely yes.
If you want to ask them to unbundle solitare so competing soliatare companies can get their new innovations of this classic game exposed, then I will not try to argue about Solitaire being an important part of the OS.
Most PC users would not view the Media Player functionality as 'nice to have' functionality such as your GPS example. For most normal users (who do not want to or know how to go download a different music player), this functionality would seem intrinsic to the operating system similar to the way that having doors on your car is normal. Having Media Player within the Operating System makes the OS as a whole more attractive to most users and this is where the money comes back to Microsoft...not because of some made-up $50 markup fee to have Media Player installed...
I don't want a cigarette lighter in my car...but it is there and most people do find that useful. I don't want a little coin holder in my car either...but most people do.
That isn't the real basis for this case. Lindows did not name itself Lindows because it was a Linux version of a Window (trademarked by Websters Dictionary). It named itself Lindows because it is a Linux version of Microsoft Windows (trademarked by...well, you know). Their product name is intended to be similar to Microsoft Windows and not to the generic version of the word.
What is your point? They made their program better and continued to distribute it for free? That doesn't sound bad to me...and personally, I would not like to get a system where I can not play sound files out of the box.
Perhaps I don't have an internet connection easily accessible...perhaps I am not very knowledgable about computers and searching random media player sites will confuse me...
Playing sound files is a normal thing that computers do...and I want me computer to do that easily.
What is your point? They made their program better and continued to distribute it for free? That doesn't sound bad to me...and personally, I would not like to get a system where I can not play sound files out of the box.
Perhaps I don't have an internet connection easily accessible...perhaps I am not very knowledgable about computers and searching random media player sites will confuse me...
Playing sound files is a normal thing that computers do...and I want me computer to do that easily.
Things would have turned out significantly different (which I think the poster was trying to say). We can't tell exactly what would have happened...but there is a fair chance that Apple would have continued to be the main computer of choice...which with their ownership of the computer hardware would have caused the computer to remain fairly expensive. It's a possible alternative but who knows...some other company could have become their competitor.
I think we already have (daily?) exercises that build up the ever-important wrist muscles...and gamers are already performing this exercise at a very high frequency!
I'm talking about typing of course! What were you thinking?
I was under the impression that she meant computer programs that wanted to be released...since there were a lot of them who were in hiding within the Matrix. The humans did not know they were 'imprisoned' so how could they request to be released?
It should never be up to just one person if the area is a large enough area...the PM will never make the final decision nor will the Developer without fairly long discussions about the design...pros/cons and what the requirements are and ways to implement (design wise) some of the stickier areas. It's too easy to miss interactions with other areas of the program or features/supported scenarios that seem abstract but need special planning.
If anyone really thinks they can do both the design/development on your own for every feature without bouncing ideas back and forth between a variety of people, then they are either arrogant or naive but are definitely not a smart Software Engineer.
Somehow I don't think that the only reason China is around is because of America...just a wild guess here considering how much longer China has been here.
Additionally, I do not think that the US would cut ties with China in this case...but Microsoft probably would stop supporting Chinese versions of their programs. Microsoft spends a lot of time and effort in localizing programs for a tremendous amount of different languages. It would be easy to not do that for Mandarin and various dialects (ones that don't use the same written form)
I am not anti-windows or Microsoft...so I am sure that is going to skew my view away from most of the Slashdot posts...I'm not trying to hide that...just figure it will skew my reasons somewhat just like it would anti-microsoft people's opinions would be skewed the opposite way.
I am used to using Windows and its shortcuts, and mechanisms for doing my tasks. I have recently been using a Max OS X machine at work to test out browser compatibilites and have had a lot of trouble trying to do things that are just a bit out of the ordinary...such as creating html files from textedit (had trouble because it was saving in rich text I finally figured out) or creating new files and such. I am sure there are very very very easy ways to do this...but I am used to Windows and haven't had any complaints about it being tough or time consuming so I haven't found reason to change here.
Another major reason is compatibility with a wide range of software. Most (commercial) software is still written with Windows in mind and I find it very easy to find software for whatever purpose...games, business, personal finances...etc.
Although this is not the normal perception, I have not had trouble with Windows crashing on me anymore. Win 9x kernels were pretty bad...but I have not been able to crash Windows XP when using it at home...
Overall, I am more than pleased with Windows and for me, it is not worth switching to a new operating system. Just my personal experience and opinion...
So you are basically saying that it is ok for software you pay for to NOT work when you click the OK button at times and that everyone should have to go read the README file? And that your program shouldn't work the first time, but should work when you re-run it with some slightly different input?
I really hope you don't ever get hired to develop software for anything that is intended for the general public.
You are kidding yourself if you believe that most people using mod chips on the PSX (I can't speak for the PS2) were using it to run their own 'backup' games...maybe someone else's 'backup' games.
Additionally, I don't think Microsoft is making any claim that the hardware will not be hacked...it is just to raise the bar so that it doesn't become as common as it did with the PSX...
There are definitely legitimate uses for this fuction. I have seen it used in some ASP apps for saving changes, notifiying the user if unsaved changes exist before they navigate away, etc...
For every feature you find useless, there are most likely lots of users who actually do use it. There are plenty of features that I turn off on my machines only to find the person in the next office using all the time.
I think a major factor here is the difference in pay for artists and software developers. Software developers are paid much better than artists are (normally...I know there are exceptions in both directions) so they are probably more likely to give away their work for free at times. A lot of times, artists can't really afford to put a lot of time into making something that looks really nice...and then not get any money at all for it.
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Access is used much more than you may think. There are a ton of people who make a living just making Access databases for companies. A lot of times they change the UI very dramatically and it doesn't look like Access to the end user.
Access does wonders for creating small database programs quickly and efficiently. Does it scale to the same level as SQL Server, probably not. However, to claim that it is useless is ignorant to the insane amount of uses is is currently having this very day.
1) compared to what? If your curriculum is not time consuming, why are you paying so much money for so little amount of material being fed to you. Most of my non-CS friends spent quite a bit of time in their majors as well.
2) You obviously have never been on a Microsoft interview. I can speak from personal experience, on both sides of the Microsoft interivew. We do ask a lot of tough questions and such but to call the interviews de-humanizing? I have never heard that from any candidate nor did I or any of my friends who interviewed (most of whom did not get accepted) say that about the interview process.
3) If you are going to take a job because you are getting free soda, that is pathetic. If you are going to work an 80 hour week at minimum wage after getting a CS degree, that is also pretty poor job selection skills.
4) You would have to be a really horrible programmer (or whatever job you are doing in the CS fields) to be fired at 28 for being too old. I guess I should expect my pink slip soon?
Why does that sound fair? Why should the EU be able to fine it for a % of its world profts? Maybe the European profits...
Should China now decide that they don't agree with having a sound player in the computer and be able to charge a % of the world profits?
How about when Australia decides it doesn't like having a picture viewer in the operating system?
I'm pro-Microsoft...and even I find this type of a post completely useless and irrelevant to any reasonable discussion. Modify the parent down here...
You are trying to change the topic...this is not a discussion about the security issues with Microsoft Windows. I would agree that the OS should be secure but that is a different conversation.
Would I expect my operating system, my experienced computer friend's OS, or my grandmother's OS to play media and be able to browse the internet. Absolutely yes.
If you want to ask them to unbundle solitare so competing soliatare companies can get their new innovations of this classic game exposed, then I will not try to argue about Solitaire being an important part of the OS.
Most PC users would not view the Media Player functionality as 'nice to have' functionality such as your GPS example. For most normal users (who do not want to or know how to go download a different music player), this functionality would seem intrinsic to the operating system similar to the way that having doors on your car is normal. Having Media Player within the Operating System makes the OS as a whole more attractive to most users and this is where the money comes back to Microsoft...not because of some made-up $50 markup fee to have Media Player installed...
I don't want a cigarette lighter in my car...but it is there and most people do find that useful. I don't want a little coin holder in my car either...but most people do.
That isn't the real basis for this case. Lindows did not name itself Lindows because it was a Linux version of a Window (trademarked by Websters Dictionary). It named itself Lindows because it is a Linux version of Microsoft Windows (trademarked by...well, you know). Their product name is intended to be similar to Microsoft Windows and not to the generic version of the word.
What is your point? They made their program better and continued to distribute it for free? That doesn't sound bad to me...and personally, I would not like to get a system where I can not play sound files out of the box.
Perhaps I don't have an internet connection easily accessible...perhaps I am not very knowledgable about computers and searching random media player sites will confuse me...
Playing sound files is a normal thing that computers do...and I want me computer to do that easily.
I am sorry...I replied to the wrong message here...moving my message down lower...feel free to mod (down) away :-(
What is your point? They made their program better and continued to distribute it for free? That doesn't sound bad to me...and personally, I would not like to get a system where I can not play sound files out of the box.
Perhaps I don't have an internet connection easily accessible...perhaps I am not very knowledgable about computers and searching random media player sites will confuse me...
Playing sound files is a normal thing that computers do...and I want me computer to do that easily.
Things would have turned out significantly different (which I think the poster was trying to say). We can't tell exactly what would have happened...but there is a fair chance that Apple would have continued to be the main computer of choice...which with their ownership of the computer hardware would have caused the computer to remain fairly expensive. It's a possible alternative but who knows...some other company could have become their competitor.
I think we already have (daily?) exercises that build up the ever-important wrist muscles...and gamers are already performing this exercise at a very high frequency!
I'm talking about typing of course! What were you thinking?
I was under the impression that she meant computer programs that wanted to be released...since there were a lot of them who were in hiding within the Matrix. The humans did not know they were 'imprisoned' so how could they request to be released?
I would think that Honeybuckets and Johnny-on-the-Spots attract a lot of worms...don't worms thrive in human waste?
:-)
Ohhh...Honeypots! Sorry...wrong item
It should never be up to just one person if the area is a large enough area...the PM will never make the final decision nor will the Developer without fairly long discussions about the design...pros/cons and what the requirements are and ways to implement (design wise) some of the stickier areas. It's too easy to miss interactions with other areas of the program or features/supported scenarios that seem abstract but need special planning.
If anyone really thinks they can do both the design/development on your own for every feature without bouncing ideas back and forth between a variety of people, then they are either arrogant or naive but are definitely not a smart Software Engineer.
Somehow I don't think that the only reason China is around is because of America...just a wild guess here considering how much longer China has been here.
Additionally, I do not think that the US would cut ties with China in this case...but Microsoft probably would stop supporting Chinese versions of their programs. Microsoft spends a lot of time and effort in localizing programs for a tremendous amount of different languages. It would be easy to not do that for Mandarin and various dialects (ones that don't use the same written form)
Actually, it only matters what jelly beans you feed it...it'll then change shape as well and help you escape whatever situation you are in.
:-)
Ah...good old Nintendo games
I am not anti-windows or Microsoft...so I am sure that is going to skew my view away from most of the Slashdot posts...I'm not trying to hide that...just figure it will skew my reasons somewhat just like it would anti-microsoft people's opinions would be skewed the opposite way.
I am used to using Windows and its shortcuts, and mechanisms for doing my tasks. I have recently been using a Max OS X machine at work to test out browser compatibilites and have had a lot of trouble trying to do things that are just a bit out of the ordinary...such as creating html files from textedit (had trouble because it was saving in rich text I finally figured out) or creating new files and such. I am sure there are very very very easy ways to do this...but I am used to Windows and haven't had any complaints about it being tough or time consuming so I haven't found reason to change here.
Another major reason is compatibility with a wide range of software. Most (commercial) software is still written with Windows in mind and I find it very easy to find software for whatever purpose...games, business, personal finances...etc.
Although this is not the normal perception, I have not had trouble with Windows crashing on me anymore. Win 9x kernels were pretty bad...but I have not been able to crash Windows XP when using it at home...
Overall, I am more than pleased with Windows and for me, it is not worth switching to a new operating system. Just my personal experience and opinion...
I don't want to even think about what XBox input (or output I guess...) holes were violated...
So you are basically saying that it is ok for software you pay for to NOT work when you click the OK button at times and that everyone should have to go read the README file? And that your program shouldn't work the first time, but should work when you re-run it with some slightly different input?
I really hope you don't ever get hired to develop software for anything that is intended for the general public.
You are kidding yourself if you believe that most people using mod chips on the PSX (I can't speak for the PS2) were using it to run their own 'backup' games...maybe someone else's 'backup' games.
Additionally, I don't think Microsoft is making any claim that the hardware will not be hacked...it is just to raise the bar so that it doesn't become as common as it did with the PSX...
There are definitely legitimate uses for this fuction. I have seen it used in some ASP apps for saving changes, notifiying the user if unsaved changes exist before they navigate away, etc...
For every feature you find useless, there are most likely lots of users who actually do use it. There are plenty of features that I turn off on my machines only to find the person in the next office using all the time.
Yah...I think Anderson really loved the Enron publicity they received...they were pretty happy to see their names right there next to Enron!
Accenture has to be extrememly relieved that they lost their fight to keep the name "Anderson Consulting" a few years ago...
I think a major factor here is the difference in pay for artists and software developers. Software developers are paid much better than artists are (normally...I know there are exceptions in both directions) so they are probably more likely to give away their work for free at times. A lot of times, artists can't really afford to put a lot of time into making something that looks really nice...and then not get any money at all for it.
A straight flush beats four of a kind...
A royal flush is just the highest type of a straight flush...so even with 4 aces, you lose to 4-5-6-7-8 of the same suit.