I cannot agree with you more. As a developer I continually question the specs that I am given (so our client wants to capture customer feedback via the web. What kind of database do they have? What's the application platform? Any idea of how much traffic they expect? Why didn't YOU ask these questions?) which makes me look like I'm being difficult but in the end produces a *much* better product.
When you've been taught to simply code to specs and never ask questions you run the risk of creating flawed software.
Meanwhile, those of us with a love of the subject have the actual deeper understanding of computers that allow us to command a decent salary.
For me it isn't so much about the money as it is the work and the people. Pulling an all-nighter to implement last-minute spec changes handed down from clueless PHB's can be annoying but it is one hell of a challenge!
What do you think Larry Ellison would do when he realizes that the guys that built last year's version of Oracle 12xyz (or whatever the hell their naming scheme is now) took the knowledge that they gained and created their own database that was killing him on the price point?
Another point: anyone notice that most of these new claims of Linux/Windows interoperability are coming from offshoring hotspots?
One thing that most CEO's are probably not taking into account is that while they are saving money in the short term they are also supplying their furutre competition with money and technical skills. I know of one Indian company (InfoSys) that has already opened offices stateside and started competing directly with some of their past customers.
I would not be surprised if some enterprising young developers overseas were to take the money and the skills that they aquired from working on code from software companies in the US and put together (for example) a enterprise-level RDBMS and begin selling it globally for a fraction of the cost of Oracle or SQL Server.
How have you coped with ADHD, and how have you found it affect your work performance?
I've found that ADHD can actually be a blessing for anyone in the IT industry. As many people know, there is *always* something to do in just about every IT department in the world. Take 3-tier system development - you've got the client piece, the middleware and the data source. Developing each of these three pieces require a different mindset. Bouncing from the DB to the front-end to the middleware back to the DB etc. just came naturally to me.
Don't use it as a crutch - spin it to your advantage.
Ok - so SCO is all pissy because they state that IBM copied some proprietary code from SCO's UNIX distro and pasted it into their(Big Blue's) Linux distro.
And why is Linus involved in this mess?
Wasn't on of the reasons that he decided to open the code to the kernal is so that he would explicitly *not* have to deal with this type of crap?
And what's all this about some kind of blackbox Scientology-type diff application that SCO has put together that supposedly allows someone to check your code against their code w/o showing their code? Is the code to *this* program open-source?
I completely agree with this statement.
In his introduction Bronson says "the people in this book are ordinary people," but it didn't feel that way.
Sometimes it almost pisses me off when I read about people who seem to imply how easy it is to simply give up the high-paying legal career or medical practice to join the Peace Corps. Sure, it's easy if you have your mortgage paid off, no credit card balances and enough money socked away in savings that you can live off of the interest.
I'm not trying to say that this is bad. Hell, I'd love to have "fuck you" money so that I could sit around all day and design maps for various FPS engines. I'm just saying that some of us have to put up with shitty jobs in order to keep the lights on.
...but I've *SERIOUSLY* considered getting this game + one of those silly mats just to get my ass back into shape. I also might even *gasp* learn how to dance! The only problem I would have would be if someone actually saw me doing it. After reading all of the other posts in this thread I'm glad to know that there are other geeks who feel the same way.
I think that, like, the next one is just gonna be *SO FRIGGIN' COOL* that, like, no one should *EVEN BE ALLOWED TO SEE IT* because, y'know, it would just be too cool for anyone to even handle.
P.S. NATALIE PORTMAN NAKED PETRIFIED IN A BOWL OF GRITS WEARING A SHIRT THAT SHOWS HER MIDRIFT!!!!!
I agree with all of the posts that have essentially said that there really isn't anything new out there - not really.
A programmer who has a good, solid understanding of OOP can pick up just about any OOP language pretty quickly. The differences between C++ and Java will become irrelevant with enough practice in either language.
For sysadmins, the most important thing you can do is learn Unix or Linux. Don't worry so much about learning the specifics of the latest version of Apache - just concentrate on the fundamentals. Once you have gained a good knowledge base of Network Operating Systems, you can move on to pick up another NOS. There are SO many times that I've learned something by simply telling myself, "Oh, it's just like Unix user permissions, only more convoluted." If you understand the concepts behind the technology, the technology itself will become as interchangable as legos.
As far as whether or not to attend college, my advice would be to go to school and try to get a campus gig running a web server or something.
Ok, got my contract that I signed when the guy put the dish on the roof. Bear with me and lemmie see if I can find the line about watching commercials. Let's see...*thumbing through contract*...bullshit, bullshit, bullshit..."viewer agrees to watch at least one 'Reality TV' show a month"...blah, blah, blah..."must make a living sacrafice to Regis Philbin or Kathy Lee Gifford annually"...blah, blah...something about "network branding" and a "firstborn male child"...
Hmm. Nothing about watching commercials. Unless, of course, you count product placement. There WAS that stipulation about having to drink 10 cups of Starbucks a week every time Niles has one on "Frasier".
I think that this might work as a good "gateway drug" into the world of Linux for most users. I don't think that people are opposed to the idea of OSS, I think that they are just uncomfortable with switching their OS. If they kinda get a taste of OSS in an enviornment with which they are familiar, it might make them a bit more comfortable moving to Linux. I've always thought that there was a need for more Win32-based open-source projects.
...how many of these countries already have supers? I remember reading somewhere a LOOONG time ago that Sun had gotten themselves into a bit of trouble by selling systems to the Chinese. Alot of people here have pointed out clustering as a way to circumvent the law. This is just a way for American companies to make a few bucks off of it.
>...doesn't that mean only one person can watch it at a time? Hopefully, he'll put it on FidoNet(TM) so more people can see it.
Not if he's using a GalactiComm board...
"Oh bother", said Pooh as he shelled out an extra 5 quid for Teddy-Style.
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I agree with you to some extent. Yes, it will be useful in the long run if for nothing else than the spin-off technology. From an engineering POV, this is a great proof of concept. From a marketing/business aspect, it's gonna be a disaster, at least it will be here in the States. Why? Because Americans have always had a love affair with their cars. I never really understood this until I bought a Mustang. Yes, traffic is a bitch. Yes, it's frustrating. But if you're going to be caught in traffic, it's better to be in a nice, warm car with your favorite tunes and a cup of coffee. I know that they claim that Ginger will help solve the traffic problems in most major metro areas, but that is only assuming that everyone runs out and buys one. Yes, this version looks stoopid and people will probably get laughed at for riding one, but the next version might be better.
Dude, where the hell do you work? I've been thrown around so much for the past few years due to incompetent managment that I'm starting to think about moving to Huntsville. Also - what's your take on the FredEx layoff that happened last week?
You wouldn't happen to work in Memphis, TN, would you? Around here, we don't have to worry about H1-B's. Of course, there aren't ANY kind of software development jobs here. I would welcome anyone in Memphis to prove me wrong. FredEx doesn't count.
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I cannot agree with you more. As a developer I continually question the specs that I am given (so our client wants to capture customer feedback via the web. What kind of database do they have? What's the application platform? Any idea of how much traffic they expect? Why didn't YOU ask these questions?) which makes me look like I'm being difficult but in the end produces a *much* better product.
When you've been taught to simply code to specs and never ask questions you run the risk of creating flawed software.
...and the Holocost never happened.
And the Easter Bunny *is* real.
No - seriously.
Meanwhile, those of us with a love of the subject have the actual deeper understanding of computers that allow us to command a decent salary.
For me it isn't so much about the money as it is the work and the people. Pulling an all-nighter to implement last-minute spec changes handed down from clueless PHB's can be annoying but it is one hell of a challenge!
Actually it will.
What do you think Larry Ellison would do when he realizes that the guys that built last year's version of Oracle 12xyz (or whatever the hell their naming scheme is now) took the knowledge that they gained and created their own database that was killing him on the price point?
Another point: anyone notice that most of these new claims of Linux/Windows interoperability are coming from offshoring hotspots?
One thing that most CEO's are probably not taking into account is that while they are saving money in the short term they are also supplying their furutre competition with money and technical skills. I know of one Indian company (InfoSys) that has already opened offices stateside and started competing directly with some of their past customers.
I would not be surprised if some enterprising young developers overseas were to take the money and the skills that they aquired from working on code from software companies in the US and put together (for example) a enterprise-level RDBMS and begin selling it globally for a fraction of the cost of Oracle or SQL Server.
Where do you live?
That sounds a LOT like the state of most IT departments in Memphis, TN.
I moved out of there and have been happy here in Austin for a little over a year now.
How have you coped with ADHD, and how have you found it affect your work performance?
I've found that ADHD can actually be a blessing for anyone in the IT industry. As many people know, there is *always* something to do in just about every IT department in the world. Take 3-tier system development - you've got the client piece, the middleware and the data source. Developing each of these three pieces require a different mindset. Bouncing from the DB to the front-end to the middleware back to the DB etc. just came naturally to me.
Don't use it as a crutch - spin it to your advantage.
Smells like AS/400+DB2!
Hey! As long as you're going to combine the FS with a DB, why settle with the relational model? PICK all the way!
That's a similar percentage to the 20-some million in the states who have heard about the penis length crisis.
There's a penis-length crisis??!?
Ok - so SCO is all pissy because they state that IBM copied some proprietary code from SCO's UNIX distro and pasted it into their(Big Blue's) Linux distro.
And why is Linus involved in this mess?
Wasn't on of the reasons that he decided to open the code to the kernal is so that he would explicitly *not* have to deal with this type of crap?
And what's all this about some kind of blackbox Scientology-type diff application that SCO has put together that supposedly allows someone to check your code against their code w/o showing their code? Is the code to *this* program open-source?
I completely agree with this statement. In his introduction Bronson says "the people in this book are ordinary people," but it didn't feel that way. Sometimes it almost pisses me off when I read about people who seem to imply how easy it is to simply give up the high-paying legal career or medical practice to join the Peace Corps. Sure, it's easy if you have your mortgage paid off, no credit card balances and enough money socked away in savings that you can live off of the interest. I'm not trying to say that this is bad. Hell, I'd love to have "fuck you" money so that I could sit around all day and design maps for various FPS engines. I'm just saying that some of us have to put up with shitty jobs in order to keep the lights on.
I sucked at football, baseball, basketball, etc. But I owned at dodgeball.
I was the same way. Why the hell isn't dodge ball *not* a professional sport? Maybe some of those old XFL folks could put it together...
...but I've *SERIOUSLY* considered getting this game + one of those silly mats just to get my ass back into shape. I also might even *gasp* learn how to dance! The only problem I would have would be if someone actually saw me doing it. After reading all of the other posts in this thread I'm glad to know that there are other geeks who feel the same way.
I think that, like, the next one is just gonna be *SO FRIGGIN' COOL* that, like, no one should *EVEN BE ALLOWED TO SEE IT* because, y'know, it would just be too cool for anyone to even handle.
P.S. NATALIE PORTMAN NAKED PETRIFIED IN A BOWL OF GRITS WEARING A SHIRT THAT SHOWS HER MIDRIFT!!!!!
I agree with all of the posts that have essentially said that there really isn't anything new out there - not really.
A programmer who has a good, solid understanding of OOP can pick up just about any OOP language pretty quickly. The differences between C++ and Java will become irrelevant with enough practice in either language.
For sysadmins, the most important thing you can do is learn Unix or Linux. Don't worry so much about learning the specifics of the latest version of Apache - just concentrate on the fundamentals. Once you have gained a good knowledge base of Network Operating Systems, you can move on to pick up another NOS. There are SO many times that I've learned something by simply telling myself, "Oh, it's just like Unix user permissions, only more convoluted." If you understand the concepts behind the technology, the technology itself will become as interchangable as legos.
As far as whether or not to attend college, my advice would be to go to school and try to get a campus gig running a web server or something.
Good Luck!
Ok, got my contract that I signed when the guy put the dish on the roof. Bear with me and lemmie see if I can find the line about watching commercials. Let's see...*thumbing through contract*...bullshit, bullshit, bullshit..."viewer agrees to watch at least one 'Reality TV' show a month"...blah, blah, blah..."must make a living sacrafice to Regis Philbin or Kathy Lee Gifford annually"...blah, blah...something about "network branding" and a "firstborn male child"...
Hmm. Nothing about watching commercials. Unless, of course, you count product placement. There WAS that stipulation about having to drink 10 cups of Starbucks a week every time Niles has one on "Frasier".
I think that this might work as a good "gateway drug" into the world of Linux for most users. I don't think that people are opposed to the idea of OSS, I think that they are just uncomfortable with switching their OS. If they kinda get a taste of OSS in an enviornment with which they are familiar, it might make them a bit more comfortable moving to Linux. I've always thought that there was a need for more Win32-based open-source projects.
...how many of these countries already have supers? I remember reading somewhere a LOOONG time ago that Sun had gotten themselves into a bit of trouble by selling systems to the Chinese. Alot of people here have pointed out clustering as a way to circumvent the law. This is just a way for American companies to make a few bucks off of it.
"Man, I don't know..."
>...doesn't that mean only one person can watch it at a time? Hopefully, he'll put it on FidoNet(TM) so more people can see it.
Not if he's using a GalactiComm board...
"Oh bother", said Pooh as he shelled out an extra 5 quid for Teddy-Style.
binary,
I agree with you to some extent. Yes, it will be useful in the long run if for nothing else than the spin-off technology. From an engineering POV, this is a great proof of concept. From a marketing/business aspect, it's gonna be a disaster, at least it will be here in the States. Why? Because Americans have always had a love affair with their cars. I never really understood this until I bought a Mustang. Yes, traffic is a bitch. Yes, it's frustrating. But if you're going to be caught in traffic, it's better to be in a nice, warm car with your favorite tunes and a cup of coffee. I know that they claim that Ginger will help solve the traffic problems in most major metro areas, but that is only assuming that everyone runs out and buys one. Yes, this version looks stoopid and people will probably get laughed at for riding one, but the next version might be better.
flat1ine
...as soon as companies start replacing managment and marketing people with "cost efficient" H1-B's.
Dude, where the hell do you work? I've been thrown around so much for the past few years due to incompetent managment that I'm starting to think about moving to Huntsville. Also - what's your take on the FredEx layoff that happened last week?
You wouldn't happen to work in Memphis, TN, would you? Around here, we don't have to worry about H1-B's. Of course, there aren't ANY kind of software development jobs here. I would welcome anyone in Memphis to prove me wrong. FredEx doesn't count.
RiotNrrd
Now all of those Linux geeks will be able to get online and flood usenet...
(Be sure to #include senseofHumor.h when you compile.)
RiotNrrd
Man, I thought that I had worked with some assholes.
"This is the true story of what happens when a group of over-rated egomaniacs work together..."
Maybe they can recoup some of their losses by working something out with Burnam/Murray and/or Viacom...