Area 51 has been the focus of so much attention for so long, that unsuprisingly it contains little of interest any more, at least for those looking for the more exotic objects.
The alledged testing (I say alledged so you keep reading, because this stuff is documented by multiple testimonies given under oath by verifiable ex-military personnel and ex government contractors) of earth-built anti-gravity discs goes on elsewhere in the Groom range, and they are stored in facilities built into the side of mountains, with the rock faces covered with doors made to look like the rock face itself, obvious given the amount of spy satellites (not all owned by the US military) floating around.
Other rather more exotic research and command and control exists at various other locations, including an underground facility in the desert at Utah reachable only from the air, also Edwards AFB and other AFBs. This stuff is again knwon about through sworn testimony from verifiable personnel.
Of course there is a lot of BS about Area 51, aliens, flying saucers (woooo!) etc. And the subject and area attract wackos like wasps to a honeypot. And yes, you can take the nonsense until proven truth line. But there is truth, it is out there, and you can get to it. It's not all rubbish, there are cover ups, and the truth is stranger than fiction. The Aurora spyplace for example has now been verified to exist through testimony, photographs and other documents.
It's a shame there's so much automatic knee-jerk cynicism from the Slashdot crowd, and others, in regard of people who are actually out there trying to fix the planet with radical new technologies that they're sweating blood and tears to develop and research despite little or no funding, peer ridicule and threats and worse from big corporate interests.
The folks who are behind, and the subject of, initiatives like OpenSourceEnergy and American Antigravity, and ZPEnergy and perhaps most of all SEASPower deserve the bloody Nobel prize many times over, for effort, and in many cases for the results they turn up.
So folks, you've given these technologies a genuine hearing have you, investigated them yourselves, at least tried to replicate the findings of these pioneers, and turned up nothing, and are thus justified in making sarcastic and disparaging comments about them?
Or, dare I suggest it, the notion of such things perhaps undermines the safe little world you live in, where you have lots of technical knowledge about things you understand, and that understanding lies on foundations laid way back when you were a kid in grade school and on through college, and the whole house of cards supports your technical ego and world view. Pretty scary all that knowledge could be undermined eh? Easier to dismiss with a joke, a giggle, and on to the next Slashdot story.
The planet won't be saved by wind power, or nuclear, or any other current eco and guilty-conscience-friendly technology, nor by mass changes in consumer behaviour (were such things even likely). The planet can and will only be saved by radical breakthroughs that shock the scientific establishment to the core, prompt mass revisions of current redundant theories, and were invented by some guy with an open mind working against all the odds in his basement lab somewhere. And I for one intend to assist any way I can.
> "in the US, people who have spent more than 3 months total (since 1980) in the UK or 6 months total (since 1980) in Europe are banned from donating"
Yet another example of why the UK and Europe have less and less respect for yellow-bellied chicken shit US policy, though I respect that many Americans probably don't agree with this official position.
Nothing has ever beaten Amiga for sheer elegance of design, and the beautiful integration of hardware and software. It was like a Beethoven masterpiece rendered in plastic, metal and silicon.
Superseded now in power, yes, but not in design so far. And STILL far, far, far better designed than anything Intel, Apple, or Microsoft have served up.
Best ever OS I've seen, from a purely technical standpoint, is Tao Group's Intent, that started life as TAOS. Truely a beautiful piece of software engineering.
This is a fairly old story that gives some background:
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=157
This is the modern website:
http://tao-group.com/
Why can't "the powers that be", the record companies, the law, etc, see that this is the way people want to get hold of their content (films, music, tv). What they want, when they want, easily.
Trying to stop this is like standing on the beach with your arms wide trying to stop the tide coming in. Its that stupid. Repeat after me: THIS CAN NOT BE STOPPED.
The challenge, should they choose to accept it, is 1.) for content owners to make technology that can charge for any copy made anywhere anyhow and 2.) secondly, and equally importantly, to drastically lower the cost of each copy so consumers feel it's fair - how about a trying a "pay what you like" scheme, and giving buyers the option of just the digital copy, or digital copy plus plastic case+colour inlay. 3.) To allow true try before you buy for all digital media - afterall that's what a lot of piracy is for these days.
I think many people if they felt they were actually being treated fairly (rather than ripped off or prosecuted), would pay a fair amount, especially if they felt the bulk of the payment was going to the artist and not the fat greedy media companies.
Media companies have one, and only one choice - to go with the flow of copying, or to to be drowned in the incoming tide.
Cafepress.com have a print on demand system that allows anyone to make and sell their own books on demand and change the manuscript at any time, and thus fully enables the incremental versions of books that this story talks about. Hopefully some people will make use of it!
It's not widely known, but nonetheless there is very strong evidence for the Nazis pursuing a range of extremely advanced technologies during the 2nd world war.
Nick Cook, highly respected aviation editor of the international defence industry's leading Janes Defence magazine put 10 years of unique and groundbreaking research into his book "The Hunt For Zero Point" (see Amazon.com), and found the Nazis to have been working on all sorts of stuff that your typical "conservative"/. reader might find wacky, but for which there is much conclusive evidence. Anti-gravity and zero-point energy were two of the prime examples.
What's more it's proven and disclosed fact that the US' Operation Paperclip at the end of the war both brought back leading Nazi scientists involved in this work to the US, employing them and giving them immunity to war crimes prosecution AND brought back technology in various stages of completion. These scientists then went on to drive the development of the atomic bomb. If you want to pursue this "line of questioning" there is also extremely strong evidence that they contributed to anti-gravity and zero-point energy research in the US, and launched black project efforts under the wing of the military industrial complex that continue to this day (and no, this is not conspiracy theory nonsense!). "Disclosure" by Dr. Steven Greer is the book to read here (Amazon.com also), or check out http://www.disclosureproject.org/
...to embrace the technology. It's clearly the only way. To anyone following this subject over the last few years, it's clear the recording industry and movie industry don't stand any chance whatsoever.
So Napster might get eaten up, and some torrent sites closed down, so what? As long as you can send data over the net, you're going to have swapping of copyright works.
The RIAA et al will have to undergo some 'spiritual development' - grow up, stop being greedy, realise consumers not them are in charge, and go with the flow (dude). Infinite kudos to the person or company that embraces and uses file sharing for the benefit of all, while still allowing content creators to earn a living or even get rich, from their creative works.
In this light the budget cuts are not only sensible and necessary but go nowhere near far enough. NASA is more or less just a low tech show front diversion to keep eyes off where the real action's at. What a waste of tax payers money. Bring some of the secret program into the light and we can get on with expanding the colonisation of Mars or whatever the next step is from where we're really at right now.
Yeah, I'm up for that. I like the design, despite seeing derogatory comments elsewhere. I like that it's way better than XBox 360. Pity there arent' the rumoured 4 Cell's rather than one, but hey, it's the result that counts.
Can't wait to cream my pants playing Gran Tourismo on it!
This article is utter, utter bollocks. The journalists who wrote this crap haven't even got a clue who to ask about it. They're asking the wrong people, and making up bullshit opinions based on their complete lack of knowledge. What a total waste of time.
The trouble with Penrose (and yes I have read some of his books, and I am scientifically minded) is his absolutely hardcore anti-religion, and particularly anti-Christian stance, and his belief that he is absolutely right no matter what.
One man versus many billions of people throughout history who have gained so much from following God. Penrose is a vainglorious fool, whose life's works are to a large extent nothing but unproven theories.
The trouble with a lot of people who choose not to follow God is they actually believe the crap Penrose comes out with. Hopefully one day they will all learn the Truth.
I couldn't give a toss, who made MSDOS, All I know, is I broke my toe, kicking the damn computer out the (MS) Window, when once again, I'd rather have used a pen, to write down all my precious source code. Amen.
That's all great, but Microsoft seem from history to have a corporate psychological flaw whereby on the rare occasions they try to support open standards they cannot help themselves trying to manipulate and distort that standard to their own devious ends.
MS should truly be proud of themselves if they manage to avoid that this time.
The Graphing Calculator story just goes to show how valuable/insightful/important Google's 20% time (20% of work time to spend on their own projects) is both to their engineers, and more importantly to their company.
Remind me to do the same when I get my software co up and running.
What a big fat waste of time fusion research is, what a white elephant, what a dead end road.
Projects that have proven future potential such as Zero Point Energy should be pursued far more vigorously, and railroaded past those hopeless 'scientists' who still think such things aren't possible.
Cold Fusion's another one with bad press but proven real world results (go and actually check it out rather than believing the big-media stories).
Dismiss this as lunacy and mod-me down? - just remember this as an 'I told you so' when it turns out to be valid all along...
I used this device 3 weeks ago at a mobile conference in Paris. The chief sales guy from the Tao Group who supply the Intent OS with the device (probably the best OS in the world right now) gave me a long demo.
It is uncannily realistic when you play a motion-control game - it is extremely responsive, almost indistinguishable from reality, largely due to Tao's Intent OS having by far the fastest J2ME virtual machine available.
Using it to browse the web, tilting the display to pan and scroll is also a cool and intuitive thing, and adds an extra dimension to one's interation with the device. The only drawback is it is, as people say, a slightly chunky device. If it was the size of the upcoming Sendo X smartphone I'd be interested, but as a proof of concept of both Tao's OS and JVM and of motion control it is an excellent demonstration.
OK, what exactly IS it going to take before legislation is put in place that makes Microsoft particularly, and any other guilty parties, liable (indirectly is good enough for me) for the sh*t quality of their software?
How many people have to indirectly die as a result of MS crap products?
Answers on a postcard to your local Congressman...
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Area 51 has been the focus of so much attention for so long, that unsuprisingly it contains little of interest any more, at least for those looking for the more exotic objects.
The alledged testing (I say alledged so you keep reading, because this stuff is documented by multiple testimonies given under oath by verifiable ex-military personnel and ex government contractors) of earth-built anti-gravity discs goes on elsewhere in the Groom range, and they are stored in facilities built into the side of mountains, with the rock faces covered with doors made to look like the rock face itself, obvious given the amount of spy satellites (not all owned by the US military) floating around.
Other rather more exotic research and command and control exists at various other locations, including an underground facility in the desert at Utah reachable only from the air, also Edwards AFB and other AFBs. This stuff is again knwon about through sworn testimony from verifiable personnel.
Of course there is a lot of BS about Area 51, aliens, flying saucers (woooo!) etc. And the subject and area attract wackos like wasps to a honeypot. And yes, you can take the nonsense until proven truth line. But there is truth, it is out there, and you can get to it. It's not all rubbish, there are cover ups, and the truth is stranger than fiction. The Aurora spyplace for example has now been verified to exist through testimony, photographs and other documents.
It's a shame there's so much automatic knee-jerk cynicism from the Slashdot crowd, and others, in regard of people who are actually out there trying to fix the planet with radical new technologies that they're sweating blood and tears to develop and research despite little or no funding, peer ridicule and threats and worse from big corporate interests.
The folks who are behind, and the subject of, initiatives like OpenSourceEnergy and American Antigravity, and ZPEnergy and perhaps most of all SEASPower deserve the bloody Nobel prize many times over, for effort, and in many cases for the results they turn up.
So folks, you've given these technologies a genuine hearing have you, investigated them yourselves, at least tried to replicate the findings of these pioneers, and turned up nothing, and are thus justified in making sarcastic and disparaging comments about them?
Or, dare I suggest it, the notion of such things perhaps undermines the safe little world you live in, where you have lots of technical knowledge about things you understand, and that understanding lies on foundations laid way back when you were a kid in grade school and on through college, and the whole house of cards supports your technical ego and world view. Pretty scary all that knowledge could be undermined eh? Easier to dismiss with a joke, a giggle, and on to the next Slashdot story.
The planet won't be saved by wind power, or nuclear, or any other current eco and guilty-conscience-friendly technology, nor by mass changes in consumer behaviour (were such things even likely). The planet can and will only be saved by radical breakthroughs that shock the scientific establishment to the core, prompt mass revisions of current redundant theories, and were invented by some guy with an open mind working against all the odds in his basement lab somewhere. And I for one intend to assist any way I can.
alexkerr@usa.net
Try reading 'The Field' by Lynne McTaggart.
I can't recommend it highly enough, and it'll tell you a lot of what you need to know.
And yes, it is scientifically based and discusses real results from real establishment (and in many cases highly lauded) scientists.
> "in the US, people who have spent more than 3 months total (since 1980) in the UK or 6 months total (since 1980) in Europe are banned from donating"
Yet another example of why the UK and Europe have less and less respect for yellow-bellied chicken shit US policy, though I respect that many Americans probably don't agree with this official position.
Nothing has ever beaten Amiga for sheer elegance of design, and the beautiful integration of hardware and software. It was like a Beethoven masterpiece rendered in plastic, metal and silicon.
Superseded now in power, yes, but not in design so far. And STILL far, far, far better designed than anything Intel, Apple, or Microsoft have served up.
Best ever OS I've seen, from a purely technical standpoint, is Tao Group's Intent, that started life as TAOS. Truely a beautiful piece of software engineering. This is a fairly old story that gives some background: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=157 This is the modern website: http://tao-group.com/
Why can't "the powers that be", the record companies, the law, etc, see that this is the way people want to get hold of their content (films, music, tv). What they want, when they want, easily.
Trying to stop this is like standing on the beach with your arms wide trying to stop the tide coming in. Its that stupid. Repeat after me: THIS CAN NOT BE STOPPED.
The challenge, should they choose to accept it, is
1.) for content owners to make technology that can charge for any copy made anywhere anyhow and
2.) secondly, and equally importantly, to drastically lower the cost of each copy so consumers feel it's fair - how about a trying a "pay what you like" scheme, and giving buyers the option of just the digital copy, or digital copy plus plastic case+colour inlay.
3.) To allow true try before you buy for all digital media - afterall that's what a lot of piracy is for these days.
I think many people if they felt they were actually being treated fairly (rather than ripped off or prosecuted), would pay a fair amount, especially if they felt the bulk of the payment was going to the artist and not the fat greedy media companies.
Media companies have one, and only one choice - to go with the flow of copying, or to to be drowned in the incoming tide.
Cafepress.com have a print on demand system that allows anyone to make and sell their own books on demand and change the manuscript at any time, and thus fully enables the incremental versions of books that this story talks about. Hopefully some people will make use of it!
"goooooogle, gooogle, google, gogle, gooogle"
oh, uh, sorry, I meant
"gurrrrgle, gurgle, guuurgle"
Ahem.
It's not widely known, but nonetheless there is very strong evidence for the Nazis pursuing a range of extremely advanced technologies during the 2nd world war.
/. reader might find wacky, but for which there is much conclusive evidence. Anti-gravity and zero-point energy were two of the prime examples.
Nick Cook, highly respected aviation editor of the international defence industry's leading Janes Defence magazine put 10 years of unique and groundbreaking research into his book "The Hunt For Zero Point" (see Amazon.com), and found the Nazis to have been working on all sorts of stuff that your typical "conservative"
What's more it's proven and disclosed fact that the US' Operation Paperclip at the end of the war both brought back leading Nazi scientists involved in this work to the US, employing them and giving them immunity to war crimes prosecution AND brought back technology in various stages of completion. These scientists then went on to drive the development of the atomic bomb. If you want to pursue this "line of questioning" there is also extremely strong evidence that they contributed to anti-gravity and zero-point energy research in the US, and launched black project efforts under the wing of the military industrial complex that continue to this day (and no, this is not conspiracy theory nonsense!). "Disclosure" by Dr. Steven Greer is the book to read here (Amazon.com also), or check out http://www.disclosureproject.org/
...to embrace the technology. It's clearly the only way. To anyone following this subject over the last few years, it's clear the recording industry and movie industry don't stand any chance whatsoever.
So Napster might get eaten up, and some torrent sites closed down, so what? As long as you can send data over the net, you're going to have swapping of copyright works.
The RIAA et al will have to undergo some 'spiritual development' - grow up, stop being greedy, realise consumers not them are in charge, and go with the flow (dude). Infinite kudos to the person or company that embraces and uses file sharing for the benefit of all, while still allowing content creators to earn a living or even get rich, from their creative works.
What's the point in spending any money on a public space program when you've got a far far more advanced secret black space program?
http://www.disclosureproject.org/
In this light the budget cuts are not only sensible and necessary but go nowhere near far enough. NASA is more or less just a low tech show front diversion to keep eyes off where the real action's at. What a waste of tax payers money. Bring some of the secret program into the light and we can get on with expanding the colonisation of Mars or whatever the next step is from where we're really at right now.
Ah, secrecy - don't ya just love it?
Yeah, I'm up for that. I like the design, despite seeing derogatory comments elsewhere. I like that it's way better than XBox 360. Pity there arent' the rumoured 4 Cell's rather than one, but hey, it's the result that counts.
Can't wait to cream my pants playing Gran Tourismo on it!
I'll give a crisp British £5 note to the fine gentleman who gets a virus onto this infernal machine first.
We've had enough of this American crap over here lads, I tell you, and enough's enough. Grandfather wouldn't have stood for it and neither will I.
The monumental ballyhooness of it all!
Playstation 3 made by the Japs you say? Ye Gods Man! Back to the trusty Psion it is then!
ANYONE who buys an XBox 360 before seeing Playstation 3 live demos is wacko jacko.
I'm SO going to cream my pants when I get to play Gran Tourismo 4 on Playstation 3.
Was that an explosion in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?
But seriously, this is such a nothing story. Electronics are unpredictable when they're wet, we've known this for decades.
Meanwhile in other news, it's fun to light flammable aerosol sprays but watch out for singed eyebrows and missing limbs!
This article is utter, utter bollocks. The journalists who wrote this crap haven't even got a clue who to ask about it. They're asking the wrong people, and making up bullshit opinions based on their complete lack of knowledge. What a total waste of time.
The trouble with Penrose (and yes I have read some of his books, and I am scientifically minded) is his absolutely hardcore anti-religion, and particularly anti-Christian stance, and his belief that he is absolutely right no matter what.
One man versus many billions of people throughout history who have gained so much from following God. Penrose is a vainglorious fool, whose life's works are to a large extent nothing but unproven theories.
The trouble with a lot of people who choose not to follow God is they actually believe the crap Penrose comes out with. Hopefully one day they will all learn the Truth.
He's got the next 3 episodes to make, right?
I mean actors have been signed up etc.
Rumours are flying around....
Lets wait and see.
I couldn't give a toss,
who made MSDOS,
All I know,
is I broke my toe,
kicking the damn computer out the (MS) Window,
when once again,
I'd rather have used a pen,
to write down all my precious source code.
Amen.
That's all great, but Microsoft seem from history to have a corporate psychological flaw whereby on the rare occasions they try to support open standards they cannot help themselves trying to manipulate and distort that standard to their own devious ends.
MS should truly be proud of themselves if they manage to avoid that this time.
The Graphing Calculator story just goes to show how valuable/insightful/important Google's 20% time (20% of work time to spend on their own projects) is both to their engineers, and more importantly to their company.
Remind me to do the same when I get my software co up and running.
What a big fat waste of time fusion research is, what a white elephant, what a dead end road.
Projects that have proven future potential such as Zero Point Energy should be pursued far more vigorously, and railroaded past those hopeless 'scientists' who still think such things aren't possible.
Cold Fusion's another one with bad press but proven real world results (go and actually check it out rather than believing the big-media stories).
Dismiss this as lunacy and mod-me down? - just remember this as an 'I told you so' when it turns out to be valid all along...
AlexK
I used this device 3 weeks ago at a mobile conference in Paris. The chief sales guy from the Tao Group who supply the Intent OS with the device (probably the best OS in the world right now) gave me a long demo.
It is uncannily realistic when you play a motion-control game - it is extremely responsive, almost indistinguishable from reality, largely due to Tao's Intent OS having by far the fastest J2ME virtual machine available.
Using it to browse the web, tilting the display to pan and scroll is also a cool and intuitive thing, and adds an extra dimension to one's interation with the device. The only drawback is it is, as people say, a slightly chunky device. If it was the size of the upcoming Sendo X smartphone I'd be interested, but as a proof of concept of both Tao's OS and JVM and of motion control it is an excellent demonstration.
alexkerr at usa dot net
OK, what exactly IS it going to take before legislation is put in place that makes Microsoft particularly, and any other guilty parties, liable (indirectly is good enough for me) for the sh*t quality of their software?
How many people have to indirectly die as a result of MS crap products?
Answers on a postcard to your local Congressman...