If there is anything I have learned over the many years I have been a Sysadmin, its that one--with the proper skills, mind you--can do anything he/she chooses with a *nix OS. The possibilities are endless, be it with Solaris, Debian, RH, FBSD, etc. To read about a couple of clowns that don't know how to use *nix, then bitch about how it didn't work for them, makes me sick.
you have hit the issue square on the head. This is the reason to not fear this. The printer tracking has been put into printers for many years (over 12) --- it is only starting to make its way into smaller sized inkjets, lasers.
The main concept is for high yield counterfeiters -- in the past the only way to get a very close copy was to use a 300,000$ machine. This makes tracking simpler for the government, as any machine sold for that amount, is 99% under a service contract. Some machines have ROM built in, to recognize bills, and shutdown/report error. (something like E5004) The Tech's service manual says to 'Contact the Authorities.'
so, in essence, it is now bleeding down as printer tech gets better. imagine trying to track anything but conterfeit money, with this tracking. needle in the proverbial haystack.
getting a PhD implies that you have successfully mastered a 'system'--one which does not necessarily reward individuals on intellect.
For an individual who does not master the schooling system, and hence does not get a PhD, does not mean the individual does not have what it takes to accomplish goals like building nuclear plants and such. Government bodies typically request such level of degrees, however, there are many capable individuals who require not that silly piece of paper.
hate to rain on your parade, but you could have just picked up a laptop drive, plugged it into an external USB container, and had the same ability 2 years ago. maybe longer.
I'd have to agree -- game was better than all the others, and most people chose to play it (in my home town anyways). I definately was one of them...I think I spent more on renting the silly game, than the actual cost to purchase...
when you buy your crappy 1100$ printer, do you think that Business Depot wrote down the serial number, and who it was sold to? How would anyone find that printer from the millions that are sold?
my point lies in the machines that *are counted. That governments *do know where they are. And those, which may print serial numbers on them, also have millions of copies running through them over the course of a few months. How will they ever track down a person who printed a page on it? It would take some serious detective work. Multiply the man hours to do this task, and you will see lost hope. It really is futile.
And as I said before, previous experience has shown that only in extreme cases would anyone actually pursue this costly tracking.
Just imagine the sheer amounts of paper printed in North America -- needle in a haystack I call it. But, definately do *not get me wrong. I am the first to stand to defend my freedom against any abuse. Obviously Americans do not, as we have seen with the Patriot Act.
To conclude -- we should be trying to focus our energy on the tracking devices put into American money, or the pulling of sensitive information from ISP's. This paper thing is not necessarily an issue. So, put on your tin foil hat, the red coats are coming.
very good points -- and yes, this is only with Colour Laser Printers. Typically, only businesses can afford these types of products, as they generally range from 15,000 to 500,000Cdn. (cheaper ones)
Also, as the article states (and having worked at *the major market player for many years) it has been happening for years. It really is no big deal, its not like someone is actually trying to track your prints on a regular basis. Think of the work involved in doing this. Not to mention that the Database of Serial numbers is adhoc at best, because machines are refurbished after some use, resold, then refurbished again (and yes, they still work like new if fixed properly -- much like a car)
Sorry to douse the flames of the Privacy War we wage on Slashdot, but this is only for those counterfeiting money, copying passports, etc. Which, as law abiding citizens, we should not be doing anyway. Copying money is not the same as downloading Mp3's....
The quality that comes from these high end devices is similar to the quality that comes from the Mint in any country, because the technology is based on the same thing.
So, to wrap this up, if anyone really feels paranoid, and Bush is checking every piece of paper and tracing it back to huge CorpX - then use an inkjet.
And drop the hubub about privacy. (for all posters)
yeah! who cares? until companies stop buying windows for their pcs - this won't change. I'm an admin for Solaris and Linux -- and I have to use Windows on my laptop....(managed desktop) something to do with exchange something or other...
so we make do with exceed, scrt and putty. poor windows.
is there irony in 'your' sig? i mean -- is the irony that 'your' is the wrong one, and hence everyone is an idiot, including the sig writer? i don't get it...
your, as in your house, your car --- a possession thing. 'you are', or 'you're'..... so is it 'you are all idiots', or do the idiots belong to someone?
nice troll, but i'll bite --- those in the know, know it installs in a flash, and a quick apt-get to pull desired packages.
debian is not for the weak and timid - it for those of us who have administered many different systems, for, we have seen the light that is debian, admist the clouds that are the other OS'.
Debian is probably the best/most stable GNU/Linux available, and if a sarge ver can accomodate the world--the better we are for it. as a redhatian, turned debianite...I'd say we are on the verge of a major breakthrough...
im sure the admin made a mistake -- huge corporations do not put everything on a thin wire, and hope they stay up. there are multiple connections and multiple servers. if the stuff goes down, its usually because of a mis-deployment of some new code, or, mis-deployment of some zones
whatever...i couldnt read the article either -- it wouldnt resolve. oh, the irony.
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to parent and grandparent -- i think we need to read between the lines ---
Remembering passwords is easy. I have lots of them.
yes for me too! for example - my name is Rick, so my password is rICK. or RiCk or rick.
it is very easy to remember, and, when someone asks me for my password, I just tell em what it is! I dont have to put it on a piece of paper or nothing.
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If there is anything I have learned over the many years I have been a Sysadmin, its that one--with the proper skills, mind you--can do anything he/she chooses with a *nix OS. The possibilities are endless, be it with Solaris, Debian, RH, FBSD, etc. To read about a couple of clowns that don't know how to use *nix, then bitch about how it didn't work for them, makes me sick.
my 2 cents, anyway.
the allowed encryption level will be far too weak
like saying you cant have more than 200hp in car....
who will stop anyone from using 4096bit encryption?
I was a former ubuntu hoary user but I switched to SUSE as the free dvd came out. To me, SUSE is one year ahead of the other distros, due to YAST.
you've tried the rest. now try http://debian.org/.
Suse ahead of Debian. Curious.
you have hit the issue square on the head. This is the reason to not fear this. The printer tracking has been put into printers for many years (over 12) --- it is only starting to make its way into smaller sized inkjets, lasers.
The main concept is for high yield counterfeiters -- in the past the only way to get a very close copy was to use a 300,000$ machine. This makes tracking simpler for the government, as any machine sold for that amount, is 99% under a service contract. Some machines have ROM built in, to recognize bills, and shutdown/report error. (something like E5004) The Tech's service manual says to 'Contact the Authorities.'
so, in essence, it is now bleeding down as printer tech gets better. imagine trying to track anything but conterfeit money, with this tracking. needle in the proverbial haystack.
getting a PhD implies that you have successfully mastered a 'system'--one which does not necessarily reward individuals on intellect.
For an individual who does not master the schooling system, and hence does not get a PhD, does not mean the individual does not have what it takes to accomplish goals like building nuclear plants and such. Government bodies typically request such level of degrees, however, there are many capable individuals who require not that silly piece of paper.
hate to rain on your parade, but you could have just picked up a laptop drive, plugged it into an external USB container, and had the same ability 2 years ago. maybe longer.
they forsee the cell phone market will be putting them out of business
aren't we talking about TV over the cellular network aswell?
take a look at the uptime of this silly server...
Netcraft
sheesh. can't even get a nice plump uptime like most linux boxen....
that being said, and considering that any woman that greets 10 seconds of fame....she will be in Playboy next month?
I'd have to agree -- game was better than all the others, and most people chose to play it (in my home town anyways). I definately was one of them...I think I spent more on renting the silly game, than the actual cost to purchase...
a little late on the response -- but here goes:
when you buy your crappy 1100$ printer, do you think that Business Depot wrote down the serial number, and who it was sold to? How would anyone find that printer from the millions that are sold?
my point lies in the machines that *are counted. That governments *do know where they are. And those, which may print serial numbers on them, also have millions of copies running through them over the course of a few months. How will they ever track down a person who printed a page on it? It would take some serious detective work. Multiply the man hours to do this task, and you will see lost hope. It really is futile.
And as I said before, previous experience has shown that only in extreme cases would anyone actually pursue this costly tracking.
Just imagine the sheer amounts of paper printed in North America -- needle in a haystack I call it. But, definately do *not get me wrong. I am the first to stand to defend my freedom against any abuse. Obviously Americans do not, as we have seen with the Patriot Act.
To conclude -- we should be trying to focus our energy on the tracking devices put into American money, or the pulling of sensitive information from ISP's. This paper thing is not necessarily an issue. So, put on your tin foil hat, the red coats are coming.
very good points -- and yes, this is only with Colour Laser Printers. Typically, only businesses can afford these types of products, as they generally range from 15,000 to 500,000Cdn. (cheaper ones)
....
Also, as the article states (and having worked at *the major market player for many years) it has been happening for years. It really is no big deal, its not like someone is actually trying to track your prints on a regular basis. Think of the work involved in doing this. Not to mention that the Database of Serial numbers is adhoc at best, because machines are refurbished after some use, resold, then refurbished again (and yes, they still work like new if fixed properly -- much like a car)
Sorry to douse the flames of the Privacy War we wage on Slashdot, but this is only for those counterfeiting money, copying passports, etc. Which, as law abiding citizens, we should not be doing anyway. Copying money is not the same as downloading Mp3's
The quality that comes from these high end devices is similar to the quality that comes from the Mint in any country, because the technology is based on the same thing.
So, to wrap this up, if anyone really feels paranoid, and Bush is checking every piece of paper and tracing it back to huge CorpX - then use an inkjet.
And drop the hubub about privacy. (for all posters)
Doesn't one billion PCs sound a little high considering that the vast majority of the world's population doesn't have access to a telephone?
us Slashdot geeks make up for the loss, with having 8 in the basement, 2 in the rec room, and 1 in the bedroom....
yeah! who cares? until companies stop buying windows for their pcs - this won't change. I'm an admin for Solaris and Linux -- and I have to use Windows on my laptop....(managed desktop) something to do with exchange something or other...
so we make do with exceed, scrt and putty. poor windows.
hey
is there irony in 'your' sig?
i mean -- is the irony that 'your' is the wrong one, and hence everyone is an idiot, including the sig writer? i don't get it...
your, as in your house, your car --- a possession thing.
'you are', or 'you're'.....
so is it 'you are all idiots', or do the idiots belong to someone?
nice troll, but i'll bite ---
those in the know, know it installs in a flash, and a quick apt-get to pull desired packages.
debian is not for the weak and timid - it for those of us who have administered many different systems, for, we have seen the light that is debian, admist the clouds that are the other OS'.
Debian is probably the best/most stable GNU/Linux available, and if a sarge ver can accomodate the world--the better we are for it. as a redhatian, turned debianite...I'd say we are on the verge of a major breakthrough...
im sure the admin made a mistake -- huge corporations do not put everything on a thin wire, and hope they stay up. there are multiple connections and multiple servers. if the stuff goes down, its usually because of a mis-deployment of some new code, or, mis-deployment of some zones
whatever...i couldnt read the article either -- it wouldnt resolve. oh, the irony.
to parent and grandparent -- i think we need to read between the lines ---
1. start spam company
2. sell emails
3. ???!?
4. Profit
remember this little ditty -- I can only assume that he made so much money, he doesn't give a rats ass about ever having to spam again --
give lame excuse, and move on to drumming in a band...
Remembering passwords is easy. I have lots of them.
yes for me too! for example - my name is Rick, so my password is rICK. or RiCk or rick.
it is very easy to remember, and, when someone asks me for my password, I just tell em what it is! I dont have to put it on a piece of paper or nothing.
Java isn't dying, people. It's already dead.
same with BSD.
Gnome vs. KDE ;)
install redhat - and you'll have both in one
(pun intended)
And when in hell are you going to give her some grandkids?
but aren't you the grandkid, if you are calling her grandma?
That's like saying that the automobile is not a high performance team of clydesdales
i thought of it more like this:
an infinti@310horsepower is not considered a High Performance Car ?? (a ferrari is)
it really is, just a cheaper, more efficient version....
now apply said logic to HPC, Cray vs Linux.
of the April fools jokes... 5 in one day is excessive.
you think that is excessive - maybe you should try working instead of trolling on slashdot. now that, is excessive, my friend.