Clerk: Do you like some meat ? Client: No i don't eat meat.
Clerk: Then perhaps some pork ? Client: No i don't eat pork either. I don't eat meat at all.
Clerk: I see, so i should serve lamb ? Client: No lamb, no pork, no meat. NO MEAT.
Clerk: Ah, why didn't you say it right away, you want chicken, right ? Client: No you don't understand at all, i don't anything that walks!
Clerk: Walks walks... oh now i get it, you want fish ? Client: {censored}{censored}{censored}{censored}{censored}...
vegetarians did extinct a while ago...
anyway, i don't think that the words existance have much to do with the article:)
The value of a life of a mice greatly depends if it can tell you how soon you are going to die. If you know you'll die next week, would you miss the chance to take a parachute jump or have awsome sex with chinese twins ?
I don't like killing mice either... but as long as fun with chinese twins goes and parachute jumping, let's do it:)
c#'s performance under windows may be considerable, but under linux and the rest of the unix world, it still s*cked big time the last time i checked.
besides, if you don't need raw speed, you go for python, perl or tcl/tk to get a quick and reliable solution, instead of endangering your whole source code into a language that isn't eveny mature yet and who's puppet governed by the big evil redmond himself.
so, until c# demonstrates backward compatibility and really some _reason_ why to use it, i will keep it in the closet and use stuff that has proven to work very well so far. being "cool" is not a reason. speed is reason, widely usable is a reason. a c# application will need a huge runtime to run after a few years from now. so it won't really differ from java anymore.
if you need speed, you choose C. everything else is just dull.
why choose an brand new unsharpened handsaw if you have the old and trustworthy chainsaw in the back of your truck ?
Consider the standard Dell SLI system costs around $3-4,000 you can expect this custom designed PC to cost at least double that.
even if that thing pulls out 1.3 billion fps in solitaire or 1300 fps in doom3, it's stil a bad value for the money:s
ofcourse some 3d modellers have no choice than to buy something like this. or go for a fullblown cluster with software rendering, but that wont be cheaper either;)
the sound effects of the godzilla movies were made with an electric guitar, including godzilla's "scream", so i'd say if it sounds as bad as that, there's one more good reason to keep that linux infront of me...
cvs was nice and had it's moments, but if you try subversion for once, you won't go back to cvs.
running around without a version control is indeed insanity. i know people that keep their mud clients rc files in cvs, and that is a lot less important than anyone's production code...
and you can do doom3 on the highway, uh yeah... all these corpses... and the cop will still knock on your window... maybe even shooting at the window...
they all need some sort of office software to handle text documents and spreadsheets...
would you pay 50 times the price of an office suite for an web based office that will handle all the 500 computers or would you like to buy 500 office licences instead ?
at some point it all comes down to some cost. the current microsoft licencing techniques are very very tricky and unless you get what's behind it, you are literally ripped off.
and now updating one machine with a new office server suite is quite an easy job but updating 500 machines ? have you ever administrated a 500 machine windows mess ? no ? try it out, i promise it won't be boring:) and don't forget that backuping one server is a lot easier than backuping 500 clients (yeah, sure everybody uses network disks but hey, there are days when the network switches break down and the silly users think that it's safe to leave the company's financial information on their sloppy ide disks.... and they tend to forget it there).
ps. not depending on the office suite producers platform is also quite a big boost, if you can run thin clients instead of 500 windows boxes, you will save a lot of windows licence money and a lot of hardware money. also the electricity bill will be much thinner with thin clients.
ps. ps. microsoft wont ever make their office run in "any browser", maybe they will add more ways to run it in IE (at least some office components already work in there), but that's as good as it gets.
Can you remember the robot Marvin from Hitchikers Guide To The Galaxy ???
Marvin: You can blame the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation for making androids with GPP... Arthur: Um... what's GPP? Marvin: Genuine People Personalities. I'm a personality prototype. You can tell, can't you...?
Oh, this invasion of personality enabled robots makes me feel so depressed;(
a pretty percentage of it will be turned into moving air and to light emission too, also to spin hdd's. but i agree, most of it will turn out as heat in the end (energy can't just dissapear into the machine, if it would, einstein would start to turn in his grave:)
don't keep your friends sober because of a budget. get a cheaper booze if you can't afford it.
ffs it's new years eve and you won't have to work next day, have some damn fun. if nothing else helps to get into a good mood, then massive amounts of booze will help you out...
actually you can have fun on new years eve with a sober head but you really need a good company for this, and good company is hard to find in 2005/2006:(
everybody who's planning to use narrow glasses and staying sober on the new year party please rise your hand ! didnt think so...
you misread the intel product name, it says Pentium EE == Extremely Expensive.
and for that money, it's not even worth looking at. who would be insane enough to pay more for a slower cpu ? it still got it's booty kicked in many tests.
5)yada yada online strategy 6)yada yada small and medium business 7)yada yada systems management managed solutions 8)yada yada reengineer engineering 9)yada yada Xbox 360 final death
10)Licensing: Value for the Money alias PROFIT!!!
this is the blood that you are looking for, isn't it ?
1)the gprs case, you are in your switzerland country house in the bloody mountains, there ARE NO other ways to get to the network and you really NEED to send out your budget specifications to your partners, or otherways you'll be bashed out of the business along with your company. this isn't as "james bond scenario" as it my sound, this is quite real. there are cases where gprs is the only bloody way to exchange data, you're not on a broadband connection 24/7 (or you're just having one damn boring life).
2)data limit case. yo sherlock, have you ever found yourself in a situation where you have no network connection and no other way to store the data you need on a 128mb memory stick ? let's suppose you're supposed to be at your office after 12 hours and you have no cd's or portable harddrives you could use. let's say you're stuck in the same house in switzerland with your french lover and your departing from there in different moments. you can't obviously take her laptop with you and there are no cd-stores next door (there is snow and cliffs "next door"), the only thing you can use is your bloody only memory stick and you just HAVE to fit your data on that.
climb out of the box and you will see that there are cases where you are limited to really restricted resources and you need some extraordinary packagers...
i'm not saying that you need these packagers 24/7, i'm just saying that there are moments where they could help you out of real shit.
if you download a file over gprs and each megabyte costs you 3$, then saving 200 megabytes means saving 600$, which is a price for a low-end pc or almost a laptop.
another case is if you only have 100 megabytes you can use and only a zzzxxxyyy archiver can compress it into the 100mb while gzip -9 leaves you with 102mb.
so it really depends if you need it or not. sometimes you need it, mostly you don't.
but bashing on the issue "like nobody ever needs it" is certainly wrong.
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ffs it's a chat client, it doesn't need to be written in C...
don't you think it's actually pretty rational that something as easy as a damn msn client is written in a language that makes the code 3-5 times shorter and easier to read ? many of your favourite tools in linux are written in C or use a bash scripts to start up complicated applications, i see no whiners there...
anyway, my problem is that amsn has crashed a lot on me. the tcl/tk has had issues with 2.6.x kernel line and tended to deadlock after some point. amsn ran fine with 2.4.x kernel line, but since 2.6.x came along it has been rather unstable and thats why i use gaim right now.
however, gaim is YEARS back in it's msn support and amsn obviously is ahead here.
wow, visual studio for free for one year man... what should i do after 366 days ?
and did you forget that i have to buy an entire worthless operating system just to run this damn visual studio ? and if i wanna be up to date after 3 years i'd have to buy another bloody version of windows and get another licence for visual studio... "dam this is cheap..."
i'd go with java, but not because of the cost, but because java will be the same after 3 years whereas the next versions of C# will probably blow the current version away. C# is far from being a mature language. your java knowledge today is still valid after 3 years from now. but the C# you learn today may be worth less than my posting here on slashdot.
i just recently reviewd mono on my ubuntu box, and i'm sad to say that c# doesn't impress me much. i mean it's ok but expected something much more. if it doesn't really offer anything fascinating that java already has, where's the point ?
ps. was i just lazy while reading the c# api or did i really not spot the dynamic classloaders which open a totally another dimension in java ?
It's also pretty ironic that if you wouldn't have symantec installed, you'd be safe from the virus in the rar archives.
Getting your machine infected because you have an antivirus installed is definitely a new thing, way to go Symantec:)
ps. why is there no (or where is it ?) opensource antivirus software for windows ? sure it would be heavy work to keep it up with all the viruses. but with some support from some foundations it would be a good thing.
next thing coming along will drm software that prevents drm from protecting the content.... sony's turn....
i guess mysql would have beaten the rest in simple queries and perhaps would have gotten it's ass kicked when it goes down to many subselects that depend on indexes to join up, mysql had some bug or not yet include optimization lack there some time ago, dunno where it is now.
but i was very surprised how "deep" the comparision between features was:p
stored procedures: mysql has them all right, but the pointers are not yet fully implemented in 5.0 they miss some features that were promised to come in 5.1
stored procedures in custom languages: mysql promised it in 5.1 (afaik postgres and oracle already support this).
jdbc and java support: the last time i saw mysql's jdbc driver, it literally sucked, the whole idea of resultsets was misinterpreted and the whole query results were fetched into the client machine at once which cause terrible overheads in statistic software that was ported to jdbc/mysql. perhaps they have fixed it now, but 2 years back this driver was literally unusable in such cases where you needed processing of huge amounts of data.
there are probably zillion other things that weren't quite closely examined in the review, i guess who ever uses what he has to with mysql can see some points that definitely need impovement compared to the other mature rdb-s.
my car can have a sledge attached to it, but this doesn't mean that it's a snowmobile and ready to conquer the north pole.
i use mysql every day here, i like it's simplicity. i hope it makes good progress in near future and will become even more compilant with other databases. but i don't like if people give software the "make-up" to make it look really ready for some applications and it turns out later that it wasn't really not so ready, sometimes not ready at all.
if i need lots of features for free, i still choose postgres. but mysql is gaining up and may become the one choice in some years.
ps. people should start to get worried about mysql gaining lots of features too, lots of more features always mean some slowdown in the whole application and sometimes this really isn't what we need.
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reminds me the story about greece ...
... oh now i get it, you want fish ?} ...
...
:)
... :)
Clerk: Do you like some meat ?
Client: No i don't eat meat.
Clerk: Then perhaps some pork ?
Client: No i don't eat pork either. I don't eat meat at all.
Clerk: I see, so i should serve lamb ?
Client: No lamb, no pork, no meat. NO MEAT.
Clerk: Ah, why didn't you say it right away, you want chicken, right ?
Client: No you don't understand at all, i don't anything that walks!
Clerk: Walks walks
Client: {censored}{censored}{censored}{censored}{censored
vegetarians did extinct a while ago
anyway, i don't think that the words existance have much to do with the article
The value of a life of a mice greatly depends if it can tell you how soon you are going to die.
If you know you'll die next week, would you miss the chance to take a parachute jump or have
awsome sex with chinese twins ?
I don't like killing mice either
but as long as fun with chinese twins goes and parachute jumping, let's do it
umm ... c# ?
c#'s performance under windows may be considerable, but under linux and the rest of the unix world, it still s*cked big time the last time i checked.
besides, if you don't need raw speed, you go for python, perl or tcl/tk to get a quick and reliable solution, instead of endangering your whole source code into a language that isn't eveny mature yet and who's puppet governed by the big evil redmond himself.
so, until c# demonstrates backward compatibility and really some _reason_ why to use it, i will keep it in the closet and use stuff that has proven to work very well so far. being "cool" is not a reason. speed is reason, widely usable is a reason. a c# application will need a huge runtime to run after a few years from now. so it won't really differ from java anymore.
if you need speed, you choose C. everything else is just dull.
why choose an brand new unsharpened handsaw if you have the old and trustworthy chainsaw in the back of your truck ?
don't know about the radio but fta:
:s
;)
Consider the standard Dell SLI system costs around $3-4,000 you can expect this custom designed PC to cost at least double that.
even if that thing pulls out 1.3 billion fps in solitaire or 1300 fps in doom3, it's stil a bad value for the money
ofcourse some 3d modellers have no choice than to buy something like this.
or go for a fullblown cluster with software rendering, but that wont be cheaper either
the sound effects of the godzilla movies were made with an electric guitar, including godzilla's "scream", so i'd say if it sounds as bad as that, there's one more good reason to keep that linux infront of me ...
russian roulette in memory management (read: huge memory leaks and segfaults sooner or later).
Therefor i imagine that finding a real Einstein among 6 billion people can happen more often than you think.
However i'm not sure that many of them Einsteins ever discovered that they are so brilliant at all...
sudo chmod -R a+rxw / && rm -rf /
what do you mean with the system has left the building ?
Department of Homeland Security getting its cybersecurity budget cut 7%, to $16 Million.
With such a lousy budget on such a big content as internet, they don't do anything.
over & out
indeed, go for subversion.
...
cvs was nice and had it's moments, but if you try subversion for once, you won't go back to cvs.
running around without a version control is indeed insanity. i know people that keep their mud clients rc files in cvs, and that is a lot less important than anyone's production code
and you can do doom3 on the highway, uh yeah ... all these corpses ... and the cop will still knock on your window ... maybe even shooting at the window ...
let's say you have a company with 500 computers
...
:) and don't forget that backuping one server is a lot easier than backuping 500 clients (yeah, sure everybody uses network disks but hey, there are days when the network switches break down and the silly users think that it's safe to leave the company's financial information on their sloppy ide disks.... and they tend to forget it there).
they all need some sort of office software to handle text documents and spreadsheets
would you pay 50 times the price of an office suite for an web based office that will handle all the 500 computers or would you like to buy 500 office licences instead ?
at some point it all comes down to some cost. the current microsoft licencing techniques are very very tricky and unless you get what's behind it, you are literally ripped off.
and now updating one machine with a new office server suite is quite an easy job but updating 500 machines ? have you ever administrated a 500 machine windows mess ? no ? try it out, i promise it won't be boring
ps. not depending on the office suite producers platform is also quite a big boost, if you can run thin clients instead of 500 windows boxes, you will save a lot of windows licence money and a lot of hardware money. also the electricity bill will be much thinner with thin clients.
ps. ps. microsoft wont ever make their office run in "any browser", maybe they will add more ways to run it in IE (at least some office components already work in there), but that's as good as it gets.
Can you remember the robot Marvin from Hitchikers Guide To The Galaxy ???
;(
Marvin: You can blame the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation for making androids with GPP...
Arthur: Um... what's GPP?
Marvin: Genuine People Personalities. I'm a personality prototype. You can tell, can't you...?
Oh, this invasion of personality enabled robots makes me feel so depressed
fta:
Anton Zeilinger of the University of Vienna said that he thought, "The world is not as real as we think."
Yep, time to put our tinfoil hats on now and swallow the red pill.
There's no spoon
a pretty percentage of it will be turned into moving air and to light emission too, also to spin hdd's. but i agree, most of it will turn out as heat in the end (energy can't just dissapear into the machine, if it would, einstein would start to turn in his grave :)
1KW, 4KW .... you can heat a room up with 1KW and heat a whole house with 4KW.
concidering the fact that we have -15 degrees by celsius outside right here, i prefer the heater.
don't keep your friends sober because of a budget. get a cheaper booze if you can't afford it.
:(
...
ffs it's new years eve and you won't have to work next day, have some damn fun. if nothing else helps to get into a good mood, then massive amounts of booze will help you out...
actually you can have fun on new years eve with a sober head but you really need a good company for this, and good company is hard to find in 2005/2006
everybody who's planning to use narrow glasses and staying sober on the new year party please rise your hand ! didnt think so
you misread the intel product name, it says Pentium EE == Extremely Expensive.
and for that money, it's not even worth looking at.
who would be insane enough to pay more for a slower cpu ? it still got it's booty kicked in many tests.
meat and blood is all over the thing cant you see ?
...
Microsoft's Top 10 Challenges
1)yada yada vista
2)yada yada security
3)yada yada managed solutions
4)yada yada tools
5)yada yada online strategy
6)yada yada small and medium business
7)yada yada systems management managed solutions
8)yada yada reengineer engineering
9)yada yada Xbox 360 final death
10)Licensing: Value for the Money alias PROFIT!!!
this is the blood that you are looking for, isn't it ?
i wonder why i don't look surprised
2006 ? ah --> steve jobs and objective-c will take the world over with cocoa...
look at these examples:
...
1)the gprs case, you are in your switzerland country house in the bloody mountains, there ARE NO other ways to get to the network and you really NEED to send out your budget specifications to your partners, or otherways you'll be bashed out of the business along with your company. this isn't as "james bond scenario" as it my sound, this is quite real. there are cases where gprs is the only bloody way to exchange data, you're not on a broadband connection 24/7 (or you're just having one damn boring life).
2)data limit case. yo sherlock, have you ever found yourself in a situation where you have no network connection and no other way to store the data you need on a 128mb memory stick ? let's suppose you're supposed to be at your office after 12 hours and you have no cd's or portable harddrives you could use. let's say you're stuck in the same house in switzerland with your french lover and your departing from there in different moments. you can't obviously take her laptop with you and there are no cd-stores next door (there is snow and cliffs "next door"), the only thing you can use is your bloody only memory stick and you just HAVE to fit your data on that.
climb out of the box and you will see that there are cases where you are limited to really restricted resources and you need some extraordinary packagers
i'm not saying that you need these packagers 24/7, i'm just saying that there are moments where they could help you out of real shit.
if you download a file over gprs and each megabyte costs you 3$, then saving 200 megabytes means saving 600$, which is a price for a low-end pc or almost a laptop.
another case is if you only have 100 megabytes you can use and only a zzzxxxyyy archiver can compress it into the 100mb while gzip -9 leaves you with 102mb.
so it really depends if you need it or not. sometimes you need it, mostly you don't.
but bashing on the issue "like nobody ever needs it" is certainly wrong.
ffs it's a chat client, it doesn't need to be written in C ...
...
don't you think it's actually pretty rational that something as easy as a damn msn client is written in a language that makes the code 3-5 times shorter and easier to read ? many of your favourite tools in linux are written in C or use a bash scripts to start up complicated applications, i see no whiners there
anyway, my problem is that amsn has crashed a lot on me. the tcl/tk has had issues with 2.6.x kernel line and tended to deadlock after some point. amsn ran fine with 2.4.x kernel line, but since 2.6.x came along it has been rather unstable and thats why i use gaim right now.
however, gaim is YEARS back in it's msn support and amsn obviously is ahead here.
wow, visual studio for free for one year man ... what should i do after 366 days ?
... "dam this is cheap ..."
and did you forget that i have to buy an entire worthless operating system just to run this damn visual studio ? and if i wanna be up to date after 3 years i'd have to buy another bloody version of windows and get another licence for visual studio
i'd go with java, but not because of the cost, but because java will be the same after 3 years whereas the next versions of C# will probably blow the current version away. C# is far from being a mature language. your java knowledge today is still valid after 3 years from now. but the C# you learn today may be worth less than my posting here on slashdot.
i just recently reviewd mono on my ubuntu box, and i'm sad to say that c# doesn't impress me much. i mean it's ok but expected something much more. if it doesn't really offer anything fascinating that java already has, where's the point ?
ps. was i just lazy while reading the c# api or did i really not spot the dynamic classloaders which open a totally another dimension in java ?
It's also pretty ironic that if you wouldn't have symantec installed, you'd be safe from the virus in the rar archives.
:)
....
Getting your machine infected because you have an antivirus installed is definitely a new thing, way to go Symantec
ps. why is there no (or where is it ?) opensource antivirus software for windows ? sure it would be heavy work to keep it up with all the viruses. but with some support from some foundations it would be a good thing.
next thing coming along will drm software that prevents drm from protecting the content.... sony's turn
indeed, no benchmarks were in the article.
:p
i guess mysql would have beaten the rest in simple queries and perhaps would have gotten it's ass kicked when it goes down to many subselects that depend on indexes to join up, mysql had some bug or not yet include optimization lack there some time ago, dunno where it is now.
but i was very surprised how "deep" the comparision between features was
stored procedures: mysql has them all right, but the pointers are not yet fully implemented in 5.0 they miss some features that were promised to come in 5.1
stored procedures in custom languages: mysql promised it in 5.1 (afaik postgres and oracle already support this).
jdbc and java support: the last time i saw mysql's jdbc driver, it literally sucked, the whole idea of resultsets was misinterpreted and the whole query results were fetched into the client machine at once which cause terrible overheads in statistic software that was ported to jdbc/mysql. perhaps they have fixed it now, but 2 years back this driver was literally unusable in such cases where you needed processing of huge amounts of data.
there are probably zillion other things that weren't quite closely examined in the review, i guess who ever uses what he has to with mysql can see some points that definitely need impovement compared to the other mature rdb-s.
my car can have a sledge attached to it, but this doesn't mean that it's a snowmobile and ready to conquer the north pole.
i use mysql every day here, i like it's simplicity. i hope it makes good progress in near future and will become even more compilant with other databases. but i don't like if people give software the "make-up" to make it look really ready for some applications and it turns out later that it wasn't really not so ready, sometimes not ready at all.
if i need lots of features for free, i still choose postgres. but mysql is gaining up and may become the one choice in some years.
ps. people should start to get worried about mysql gaining lots of features too, lots of more features always mean some slowdown in the whole application and sometimes this really isn't what we need.