What this effectively does is remove an element of choice for the site owner. The statement SHOULD read "create a site of value so that users will be willing to put up with the inconvience of ads because the product is so valuable to them."
Most people don't have the money to spend $5 a month on every site they visit. I sure don't. However, I'm willing to be advertised to in order to reap the benefits of a particular website. This is a fundamental exchange of goods (my value as an "advertisee" in exchange for your content).
By putting something in the middle, you effectively are breaking that relationship. You are now taking, but not giving in return. The business model isn't flawed. Just because someone can come up with a way for you to steal content (effectively what this is), doesn't mean that the business model is flawed.
Absolutely.. What you will see is kiosks that are setup in crowded areas (Airport terminals, malls, etc..) that continually look for devices to send messages to. Potentially big business.
At the most basic level, you'll see stores use this as a means to automatically transmit specials and what-not as you walk into the store.
I've succesfully defended myself against a large corporation with a large team of well paid lawyers. After all was said and done I actually profited from the experience (and I'm a man of modest means).
It turns out when you don't break the law, there is very little that even the best lawyers can do. That's the thing that just dumbfounds me, everyone on Slashdot wants to whine and complain about the system, but the fact is the people being sued broke copyright laws. They want to settle because they fundamentally KNOW they broke copyright law. Don't break the law, don't get sued. How much simpler can it be?
That's the BEAUTY of this case for them. There is just enough of a legal foothold here (as there usually is in copyright law) that disbarment is almost completely out of the question. You rarely get disbarred for fighting a losing legal battle, even if it's completely illogical. In this case they have a kind of demented logical thread that allows them to rake in the cash and actually create a lot of goodwill among other old-economy copyright holders that might want to pursue similiar cases on similiarly thin logic in the future (RIAA/MPAA spring to mind).
My 'magical' tech skills most definitely are something. Not everyone can do what I do. The math and logic skills involved in being a good programmer ARE quite rare. If your attitude truly is that IT talent (particularly high level programmers) is easily replaced then you will have a revolving door of worthless programmers running your company directly into the ground.
A good programmer is extraordinarily valuable, not only in what they can do as a programmer but in what they bring to the team as a whole.
I do agree that working within a team is undeniably important. And the poster who doesn't beleive that will have a very hard working life. Still, to say that this stuff is easy (and to further compare it to assembly line work!) is so wrong that it's not even funny. Maybe in what you do, but when working on multi-million dollar projects involving dozens of complex systems... you better beleive that talent matters.
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That's funny, because for about 3 weeks no matter HOW many Windows updates you ran you where quite susceptible to various blaster variants. So I guess you are A) lucky or B) full of it. Judging by your trollish appearance.. I choose B.
How the hell is this 'insightful', it's down right ignorant.
Heres a news flash. Most business leaders are incredibly decent, compassionate, and fair people. To lump them altogether as being part of this money-grubbing evil conspiracy is stupid, moronic, and down right ignorant.
My evil business leader has ASKED me to spend serious time contributing back to an open source project that we use as our customer support system. He sees this as the fair way to compensate the project for all of the value it's brought back to the company. I'm not working on things that our company needs, but rather general improvements that are useful to EVERYONE. Immoral indeed.
This is not all that uncommon.. you'll find that most business people like to play 'by the rules' and 'do the right thing'. I suspect that just because they have a different world view than you, doesn't make them immoral. Just different.
I work for Cutting Edge Software (http://www.cesinc.com) and we supply office software with network capabilities that are being used RIGHT now in elementary schools running on the Alphasmart Dana devices. It's worked out great for both students and teachers as the kids have gotten comfortable with a variety of technologies, and the teachers have used our products to enrich the education of those kids.
You've obviously never held one of these. The size, while large'ish is most definitely within reason. It's a fairly comfortable wait, and passes the belt test with flying colors.
For those of us who DO use our PDA's for many many things this phone is a definite contender as a convergence device. I'm sorry you don't 'get it' or 'want it', but there are those of us that most definitely do.
I love this line of 'logic'... anytime someone says something you don't agree with it, fail to argue the facts and just throw in a bunch of Nazi quotes that take the same position.
After all, what your implying is that Clark is a Nazi interested only in world domination and the complete extinction of the Jews, cripples, and the mentally deficient.
Unbeleivable.. how about choosing to deal with a position with an actual argument, instead of knee jerk reactions to a regime whose interest in gun control was self-security and not a legitimate belief in a safer society. I long for the days when conservatives where able to participate in actual debate, without relying solely on emotional appeals and sensationalistic crutches..
I can find research that works in both directions actually. More and more we are finding, however, that prison is more or less ineffective as a means of rehabilitation. People who go in are fairly likely to be criminals when they come back out. A fair number of sociologists now beleive that prison doesn't make people into more hardened criminals, it simply keeps them from commiting crimes for a few months while they're in it.
The value of prisons, to society, is that they ARE a fairly effective deterrent. There is a fascinating study I read in college that tracked crimes that carry very light or no jail sentences (petty theft) and compared them to other forms of crime that we're generally less risky and easier to perpetrate, but carried stiff jail penalties. The less rewarding/more risky crime was a much bigger problem, with the biggest reason cited by those caught doing it as the belief that they wouldn't face jail time if caught.
Interesting.. your argument basicall sounds like 'we already do this in a less formal way, and it's good. But when you use technology to make it more effective and enforceable it's bad.'
In an effort to prove that he was alive (it took something like 15 years) he did all sorts of funny things, like demanding a widow pension for his wife, invading government gatherings (to get arrested), racking up an insane number of contempt of court charges, etc...
All under that same principle.. he wanted to force the government to recognize his existence by forcing them to do things that you can only do to a live person.
I thought the mantra 'security through obscurity is no security at all' was revered on Slashdot.
According to popular Slashdot thinking, shouldn't the availbility of the source code actually PREVENT cheating thanks to peer review (and subsequent helpful suggestions for Valve)?
I think the original point still holds. While these people may have a REASON (in their minds) to 'bring the government into this', as a citizen I can't see how this is really a fair or logical request.
While I realize that the networks broadcast on 'the peoples frequencies', I still don't see how product placement is such a bad thing that it requires government involvement. Let the government worry about terrorists, and let the market decide how much advertising we're willing to handle.
I was actually having a conversation just the other day about this with a military defense contractor (missile guidance) who just happens to be related to me:)
They are actually VERY excited about Galileo.. as it gives them exactly the redundancy you talk about. As I understand it, a lot of the rhetoric between the EU/U.S. has been very very positive about the project, which is somewhat counter to the sensationalistic viewpoint that most news organizations seem to take.
Pickup on these seem as good if not better than a 4 cylinder car (pretty standard on a small sedan). Electric motors never cease to amaze me with the amount of torque they can generate.
The airlines, of course, have dodged responsibility for the lax security they provided which enabled 9/11. Instead of a slap on the wrist, they were rewarded with hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars in bailouts - and union-busting government arbitration - and, eventually, bankruptcy protection. Wow. I wish I had a business that the government was that generous to. But I guess Alaska Air has been getting slapped around for negligent maintenance.
Except that a judge ruled in the last couple of days that the airlines can in fact be sued for the lax security before 9/11. You will see a TON of 9/11 based lawsuits against the airlines on the heels of this decision.
This is absolutely true.. Having just bought a house I found that a popular myth among home buyers is that in order to qualify for a home loan they need to go close as much of their credit as possible.
In one case this ended up costing one couple in particular a full percentage point on their loan, as their score was drastically reduced. Basically, as you rightly pointed out, their amount of available credit nose-dived (closing the accounts) while the amount they had payed did not.. so their ratio of used to available credit sucked.
Yep, except that they won't be getting MY money or time for it. I've bought several mandrake box sets for myself, family, and co-workers. They're losing at least my business, as I am so shell-shocked by ads that I do avoid them wherever and whenever I can.
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Not true.
What this effectively does is remove an element of choice for the site owner. The statement SHOULD read "create a site of value so that users will be willing to put up with the inconvience of ads because the product is so valuable to them."
Most people don't have the money to spend $5 a month on every site they visit. I sure don't. However, I'm willing to be advertised to in order to reap the benefits of a particular website. This is a fundamental exchange of goods (my value as an "advertisee" in exchange for your content).
By putting something in the middle, you effectively are breaking that relationship. You are now taking, but not giving in return. The business model isn't flawed. Just because someone can come up with a way for you to steal content (effectively what this is), doesn't mean that the business model is flawed.
Absolutely.. What you will see is kiosks that are setup in crowded areas (Airport terminals, malls, etc..) that continually look for devices to send messages to. Potentially big business.
At the most basic level, you'll see stores use this as a means to automatically transmit specials and what-not as you walk into the store.
I've succesfully defended myself against a large corporation with a large team of well paid lawyers. After all was said and done I actually profited from the experience (and I'm a man of modest means).
It turns out when you don't break the law, there is very little that even the best lawyers can do. That's the thing that just dumbfounds me, everyone on Slashdot wants to whine and complain about the system, but the fact is the people being sued broke copyright laws. They want to settle because they fundamentally KNOW they broke copyright law. Don't break the law, don't get sued. How much simpler can it be?
That's the BEAUTY of this case for them. There is just enough of a legal foothold here (as there usually is in copyright law) that disbarment is almost completely out of the question. You rarely get disbarred for fighting a losing legal battle, even if it's completely illogical. In this case they have a kind of demented logical thread that allows them to rake in the cash and actually create a lot of goodwill among other old-economy copyright holders that might want to pursue similiar cases on similiarly thin logic in the future (RIAA/MPAA spring to mind).
As opposed to other, less efficient, systems that give Trashmen no hope of being anything else?
Ya, that's better.
Your right, but so very wrong.
My 'magical' tech skills most definitely are something. Not everyone can do what I do. The math and logic skills involved in being a good programmer ARE quite rare. If your attitude truly is that IT talent (particularly high level programmers) is easily replaced then you will have a revolving door of worthless programmers running your company directly into the ground.
A good programmer is extraordinarily valuable, not only in what they can do as a programmer but in what they bring to the team as a whole.
I do agree that working within a team is undeniably important. And the poster who doesn't beleive that will have a very hard working life. Still, to say that this stuff is easy (and to further compare it to assembly line work!) is so wrong that it's not even funny. Maybe in what you do, but when working on multi-million dollar projects involving dozens of complex systems... you better beleive that talent matters.
That's funny, because for about 3 weeks no matter HOW many Windows updates you ran you where quite susceptible to various blaster variants. So I guess you are A) lucky or B) full of it. Judging by your trollish appearance.. I choose B.
How the hell is this 'insightful', it's down right ignorant.
Heres a news flash. Most business leaders are incredibly decent, compassionate, and fair people. To lump them altogether as being part of this money-grubbing evil conspiracy is stupid, moronic, and down right ignorant.
My evil business leader has ASKED me to spend serious time contributing back to an open source project that we use as our customer support system. He sees this as the fair way to compensate the project for all of the value it's brought back to the company. I'm not working on things that our company needs, but rather general improvements that are useful to EVERYONE. Immoral indeed.
This is not all that uncommon.. you'll find that most business people like to play 'by the rules' and 'do the right thing'. I suspect that just because they have a different world view than you, doesn't make them immoral. Just different.
http://www.alphasmart.com
I work for Cutting Edge Software (http://www.cesinc.com) and we supply office software with network capabilities that are being used RIGHT now in elementary schools running on the Alphasmart Dana devices. It's worked out great for both students and teachers as the kids have gotten comfortable with a variety of technologies, and the teachers have used our products to enrich the education of those kids.
You've obviously never held one of these. The size, while large'ish is most definitely within reason. It's a fairly comfortable wait, and passes the belt test with flying colors.
For those of us who DO use our PDA's for many many things this phone is a definite contender as a convergence device. I'm sorry you don't 'get it' or 'want it', but there are those of us that most definitely do.
I love this line of 'logic'... anytime someone says something you don't agree with it, fail to argue the facts and just throw in a bunch of Nazi quotes that take the same position.
After all, what your implying is that Clark is a Nazi interested only in world domination and the complete extinction of the Jews, cripples, and the mentally deficient.
Unbeleivable.. how about choosing to deal with a position with an actual argument, instead of knee jerk reactions to a regime whose interest in gun control was self-security and not a legitimate belief in a safer society. I long for the days when conservatives where able to participate in actual debate, without relying solely on emotional appeals and sensationalistic crutches..
I guess debate is for those evil liberals.
I can find research that works in both directions actually. More and more we are finding, however, that prison is more or less ineffective as a means of rehabilitation. People who go in are fairly likely to be criminals when they come back out. A fair number of sociologists now beleive that prison doesn't make people into more hardened criminals, it simply keeps them from commiting crimes for a few months while they're in it.
The value of prisons, to society, is that they ARE a fairly effective deterrent. There is a fascinating study I read in college that tracked crimes that carry very light or no jail sentences (petty theft) and compared them to other forms of crime that we're generally less risky and easier to perpetrate, but carried stiff jail penalties. The less rewarding/more risky crime was a much bigger problem, with the biggest reason cited by those caught doing it as the belief that they wouldn't face jail time if caught.
Interesting.. your argument basicall sounds like 'we already do this in a less formal way, and it's good. But when you use technology to make it more effective and enforceable it's bad.'
Not exactly logical?
He actually tried that and more:)
In an effort to prove that he was alive (it took something like 15 years) he did all sorts of funny things, like demanding a widow pension for his wife, invading government gatherings (to get arrested), racking up an insane number of contempt of court charges, etc...
All under that same principle.. he wanted to force the government to recognize his existence by forcing them to do things that you can only do to a live person.
I thought the mantra 'security through obscurity is no security at all' was revered on Slashdot.
According to popular Slashdot thinking, shouldn't the availbility of the source code actually PREVENT cheating thanks to peer review (and subsequent helpful suggestions for Valve)?
I think the original point still holds. While these people may have a REASON (in their minds) to 'bring the government into this', as a citizen I can't see how this is really a fair or logical request.
While I realize that the networks broadcast on 'the peoples frequencies', I still don't see how product placement is such a bad thing that it requires government involvement. Let the government worry about terrorists, and let the market decide how much advertising we're willing to handle.
I was actually having a conversation just the other day about this with a military defense contractor (missile guidance) who just happens to be related to me:)
They are actually VERY excited about Galileo.. as it gives them exactly the redundancy you talk about. As I understand it, a lot of the rhetoric between the EU/U.S. has been very very positive about the project, which is somewhat counter to the sensationalistic viewpoint that most news organizations seem to take.
Is this based on Eclipse? Borland was one of the original developers (along with IBM) who was investing in that project. (http://www.eclipse.org)
It certainly looks like it to me.
I've driven a Prius and the Civic hybrids..
Pickup on these seem as good if not better than a 4 cylinder car (pretty standard on a small sedan). Electric motors never cease to amaze me with the amount of torque they can generate.
The airlines, of course, have dodged responsibility for the lax security they provided which enabled 9/11. Instead of a slap on the wrist, they were rewarded with hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars in bailouts - and union-busting government arbitration - and, eventually, bankruptcy protection. Wow. I wish I had a business that the government was that generous to.
But I guess Alaska Air has been getting slapped around for negligent maintenance.
Except that a judge ruled in the last couple of days that the airlines can in fact be sued for the lax security before 9/11. You will see a TON of 9/11 based lawsuits against the airlines on the heels of this decision.
This is absolutely true.. Having just bought a house I found that a popular myth among home buyers is that in order to qualify for a home loan they need to go close as much of their credit as possible.
In one case this ended up costing one couple in particular a full percentage point on their loan, as their score was drastically reduced. Basically, as you rightly pointed out, their amount of available credit nose-dived (closing the accounts) while the amount they had payed did not.. so their ratio of used to available credit sucked.
Yep, except that they won't be getting MY money or time for it. I've bought several mandrake box sets for myself, family, and co-workers. They're losing at least my business, as I am so shell-shocked by ads that I do avoid them wherever and whenever I can.
Funny you should mention 'No MMORPGS'...
http://www.tibiame.com/home/?language=en
A Series 60 MMORPG, and since the N-Gage is a series 60 device this should work flawlessly.
Okay... do the editors read the links anymore?
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Wasn't there a cas in Britain (I beleive) where a man was charged with trading child pornography who was found innocent for this very reason?