In many ways Linux and the whole Open Source way of doing things is ideal for this kind of application. It makes a certain amount of sense to standardize certain aspects of the OS on mobile phones, after all it is a communication device, and having every thing talk the same language is an obvious bonus.
The article talks about how many different manufacturers are running different systems on their phone. The linux initiative would mean that all of those companies can contribute to an open standard codebase and have the same os running on a bunch of different architectures, The other bonus of course is that they can choose their hardware based on merit / cost instead of having to choose the hardware based on whatever hardware company is sharing the redmond pie.
I discovered this the other day, http://www.torrentsearch.org/ basically its a p2p program that downloads the whole database of.torrent files from mirrors. You can then search for torrents through the gui. You can then download the.torrent file to hard disk from whence it can be opened with your bit torrent client. Currently there are about 3000 torrents on the database. So maybe you wont need to ditch voracity or suprnova yet. Its definitely a useful addition to the bittorrent arsenal. The current download is a win32 app, but I have found it works fine with crossover wine. Would be nice if it were ported to linux ( I dont think it would be that difficult its a relatively simple app!) It would be nice if everyone used the same system for hosting trackers and torrent files.
regardless of whether microsofts BMW software is any good or not, I wont be buying a BMW, they are an evil company just like Microsoft. They bought Rover, took the rights to the Mini and the Land Rover, and fucked the rest of the Rover car company off. Go figure I dont want to support a company that has taken two British Icons of design and sells them for extortionate costs under a German brand.
Buy a BMW and get two strains of evil all rolled into one... No Thanks!
And whatever you do..... Dont Mention The War !!!!
I've often thought that this might be an idea. The problem I see is how does an ISP know what tunes an individual person is downloading?
I myself only download a few mp3's a year, and I dont think I would be a prime target for the RIAA (althought I do live in the UK). No-one is denying the fact that sharing mp3's on a grand scale is piracy whether you like it or not it is illegal. I dont condone the practices of the music labels, (who really should be called marketing labels). Nor the RIAA.
I have seen several music stores close down near where I live, which is sad because I do like to actually buy CD's (mainly of older stuff, or on the rare occaisions that I hear a band that I like). Its a sad fact that sales of CD's are falling.
The fact remains that people are going to download mp3's over the net no matter what heavy handed tactics the various organisations try to stop it.So how do you pay for it?
How about a licence? Many companies have a special licence (i beleive it is called a PRS) which grants them to use the music from commercial artists on their call hold music. Same way many bars and clubs have this licence too. That yearly fee ensures that artists get a payback for their tunes being played.
The problem with micropayment services like apples iTunes and the other services that are around is that they are limited in the stuff they have that you might actually want. I'd be very surprised if i could find obscure Pink Floyd or Ozric Tentacles stuff on those services. I use lopster or bit-torrent to find things like that. Herein lies the problem with ISP's charging extra to account for mp3 traffic. If people use obscure p2p software that doesnt go through the ISP's system how are they supposed to know what people have or havent downloaded? If they increased the monthly line rental accross the board there are going to be a lot of angry faces!
Its a difficult system, I can see how passing the cost onto the ISP could help take the hassle away from the end users, but the internet has other purposes than downloading tunes and porn. Surfing slashdot for anti-capitalist whoring and geek stuff takes up a good percentage of my bandwidth.
Yes Im unemployed, and no i havent got a girlfriend. But I do have a band....
It looks like its twice the size of the original X-Box. I can understand why someone would want to put the X-Box in a new case, but quite frankly this looks worse than the original casing. Im not particularly impressed!
So far as I can see their results are presented in a rather cowboy fashion. IANAS(tatitician) but simply on face value, comparing the quality of netcraft with port80's fisher price webstats, i am surprised they even got a look in in the first place.(regardless of bias)
Netcraft have an archive of data and graphs. It has taken them years to achieve the trust and respect they command in order to be an authority on the subject. You cant just pop up out of nowhere and expect people to take your results seriously unless you have a history of producing viable results that people cand depend on.
This is quite obviously a ploy to drive traffic to their site and increase sales of their naff IIS plugins, which are probably about as usable as their webstat results.
I had a mate that needed to do exactly that. He was running an apache webserver, and as such he was unable to get tech support. His way round this was to have Apache look like IIS by getting it to serve IIS headers.
Wondering if anyone else experienced very poor DNS service last night? I had to put a bunch of my favourite sites into my hosts file, because their DNS was screwed. The only thing i could get it to resolve was google, and that was at a push. It was fine when I woke up this morning. Just wondering if this might have been related?
I thought It was a little far-fetched, but the Nanomachine Swarms in Michael Crichtons "Prey" were manufactured in a similar process. Its a good read, and now it just got a little closer to reality for comfort.
Microsoft dudes, have a great deal of problems with using postgresql and mysql due to the lack of a gui, its kinda hard to get people to switch when they are used to the interfaces they are used to with SQL Server and Access.
But myself, I am quite used to the mysql command interface, but there have been times when I have wished it had a gui even for the simplest things. This is a welcome piece of news and I hope that by the time i am employed again it will be advanced enough for me to make use of it.
How many more companies have to embrace Linux before people realise its here to stay?
It seems there is an emerging force behind linux now, and pretty soon there will only be a couple of large companies left behind. Those players that Microsoft has all but wiped out know that if they are going to survive, they have to put their money behind Open Source, Any new proprietary Office/Server Space software doesnt stand a chance against Open Source, or The beast of redmond. So what Microsoft kills creates a new seed planted in the beds of Open Source. Redmond are rapidly digging their own grave and in it will be planted the seeds of an open and free world:)
I see what the implication is. But its still rather a grey area. Let see Redmond try and enforce it, You are either being open or not, somehow I dont think it would stand up in court!
Gates: Yes your honour, everyone can use it except our main competitors... doh !
The term power user is rather sketchy, but I wouldnt categorise people who use photoshop and play lots of games power users! Perhaps a power user is someone more like myself, running an various servers, writing plenty code and having a reasonably good understanding about whats going on under my flashy gui.
Linux gives you an empowerment other oses dont give you.
I dont believe anyone has mentioned this, but lets not forget that a considerable chunk of linux users are tech savvy, or at least tech savvy enough to learn how to enjoy the many merits of linux itself, most of us dont notice or report the things that Joe Sixpack finds frustrating with linux.
Many people seem to be making comments as to the effect that linux will not be ready for the desktop until this, or that happens. Mostly reffering to the kind of point and click , hand holding nature of Win32 and MacOS.
Its just another evolutionary step, as more and more less savvy linux users try out the OS, the more our techy OSS developers will begin to hear about the things Joe Sixpack wants. In order for Joe Sixpack to start telling the community what he or she wants weve got to get them using Linux in the first place.
We have got to start somewhere and this new initiative is a step in the right direction. Stop bitching and lets support it!
I must admit, that is a frighteningly valid point. I've read Rebel Code (glynn moody) and its pretty much true to say that the original intentions of Linux were derived from Minix. Which in itself was intended to provide a Unix (previously the reserve of larger machines) to run on lesser hardware,eg x386 something that Linus hankered after...
None the less, it was still at least at that stage an original work and not based on the back then proprietary Unix source code.
The thing is, regardless of the source code, is it legal to create a product, identical or at least very similar to a proprietary product an allowable thing ?
I suppose this is where the issue of software patents comes in.. OpenOffice for example... is that similar to MSOffice that it could also be subject to review, even if the codebase is completely clean?
Im so indoctrinated with open source now that a world without it is a world I dont want to exist in. SCO suck and so does MS (multiple sclerosis)! While there is nothing wrong with the closed source model aside from its monopolistic behaviours, Open and Closed source models should be able to coexist simultaneously without all this damn bitching!
Slashdot Mirror
In many ways Linux and the whole Open Source way of doing things is ideal for this kind of application. It makes a certain amount of sense to standardize certain aspects of the OS on mobile phones, after all it is a communication device, and having every thing talk the same language is an obvious bonus.
The article talks about how many different manufacturers are running different systems on their phone. The linux initiative would mean that all of those companies can contribute to an open standard codebase and have the same os running on a bunch of different architectures, The other bonus of course is that they can choose their hardware based on merit / cost instead of having to choose the hardware based on whatever hardware company is sharing the redmond pie.
I am amazed that anyone reading articles on slashdot doesnt know the correct meaning of the word hack.
... call yourself a geek ?
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I suggest that you read here
http://www.jargon.8hz.com/jargon_23.html#SEC30
shame on you
nick
I discovered this the other day,
http://www.torrentsearch.org/
basically its a p2p program that downloads the whole database of
You can then search for torrents through the gui. You can then download the
nick
regardless of whether microsofts BMW software is any good or not, I wont be buying a BMW, they are an evil company just like Microsoft. They bought Rover, took the rights to the Mini and the Land Rover, and fucked the rest of the Rover car company off. Go figure I dont want to support a company that has taken two British Icons of design and sells them for extortionate costs under a German brand.
... No Thanks!
..... Dont Mention The War !!!!
...
Buy a BMW and get two strains of evil all rolled into one
And whatever you do
nick
I've often thought that this might be an idea. The problem I see is how does an ISP know what tunes an individual person is downloading?
....
I myself only download a few mp3's a year, and I dont think I would be a prime target for the RIAA (althought I do live in the UK). No-one is denying the fact that sharing mp3's on a grand scale is piracy whether you like it or not it is illegal. I dont condone the practices of the music labels, (who really should be called marketing labels). Nor the RIAA.
I have seen several music stores close down near where I live, which is sad because I do like to actually buy CD's (mainly of older stuff, or on the rare occaisions that I hear a band that I like). Its a sad fact that sales of CD's are falling.
The fact remains that people are going to download mp3's over the net no matter what heavy handed tactics the various organisations try to stop it.So how do you pay for it?
How about a licence? Many companies have a special licence (i beleive it is called a PRS) which grants them to use the music from commercial artists on their call hold music. Same way many bars and clubs have this licence too. That yearly fee ensures that artists get a payback for their tunes being played.
The problem with micropayment services like apples iTunes and the other services that are around is that they are limited in the stuff they have that you might actually want. I'd be very surprised if i could find obscure Pink Floyd or Ozric Tentacles stuff on those services. I use lopster or bit-torrent to find things like that. Herein lies the problem with ISP's charging extra to account for mp3 traffic. If people use obscure p2p software that doesnt go through the ISP's system how are they supposed to know what people have or havent downloaded? If they increased the monthly line rental accross the board there are going to be a lot of angry faces!
Its a difficult system, I can see how passing the cost onto the ISP could help take the hassle away from the end users, but the internet has other purposes than downloading tunes and porn. Surfing slashdot for anti-capitalist whoring and geek stuff takes up a good percentage of my bandwidth.
Yes Im unemployed, and no i havent got a girlfriend. But I do have a band
It looks like its twice the size of the original X-Box. I can understand why someone would want to put the X-Box in a new case, but quite frankly this looks worse than the original casing. Im not particularly impressed!
...
nick
Obviously ashamed to say which server they are running !
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.p
nick
So far as I can see their results are presented in a rather cowboy fashion. IANAS(tatitician) but simply on face value, comparing the quality of netcraft with port80's fisher price webstats, i am surprised they even got a look in in the first place.(regardless of bias)
Netcraft have an archive of data and graphs. It has taken them years to achieve the trust and respect they command in order to be an authority on the subject. You cant just pop up out of nowhere and expect people to take your results seriously unless you have a history of producing viable results that people cand depend on.
This is quite obviously a ploy to drive traffic to their site and increase sales of their naff IIS plugins, which are probably about as usable as their webstat results.
Why would anybody do that?
I had a mate that needed to do exactly that. He was running an apache webserver, and as such he was unable to get tech support. His way round this was to have Apache look like IIS by getting it to serve IIS headers.
nick
Wondering if anyone else experienced very poor DNS service last night? I had to put a bunch of my favourite sites into my hosts file, because their DNS was screwed. The only thing i could get it to resolve was google, and that was at a push. It was fine when I woke up this morning.
Just wondering if this might have been related?
God forbid, but what would happen if they had Slashdot in their sights. Nobody thought of that... did they ?
nick
See my earlier post regarding "Longhorns Flash Killer"
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Embrace and Extend
nick
Peoples Mums and Dads,
Peoples Aunts and Uncles,
Clueless PHB's and Office Clerks.
Loads of people use it, that much is obvious there are other people in the world apart from clever techies like you and me!
Anyhow your message was clearly flamebait and I took it hook, line and sinker!
nick .
I thought It was a little far-fetched, but the Nanomachine Swarms in Michael Crichtons "Prey" were manufactured in a similar process. Its a good read, and now it just got a little closer to reality for comfort.
...
nick
Apart from the silly names they give to these sub atomic particles, does this mean that we are anywhere nearer to finding the mythical Higgs Boson?
me too.
Microsoft dudes, have a great deal of problems with using postgresql and mysql due to the lack of a gui, its kinda hard to get people to switch when they are used to the interfaces they are used to with SQL Server and Access.
But myself, I am quite used to the mysql command interface, but there have been times when I have wished it had a gui even for the simplest things. This is a welcome piece of news and I hope that by the time i am employed again it will be advanced enough for me to make use of it.
Well for a start of a quick look at the website reveals that pgAccess is limited to postgresql only.
Lets not forget how they bought Amiga and left it to rot.
How many more companies have to embrace Linux before people realise its here to stay?
:)
It seems there is an emerging force behind linux now, and pretty soon there will only be a couple of large companies left behind. Those players that Microsoft has all but wiped out know that if they are going to survive, they have to put their money behind Open Source, Any new proprietary Office/Server Space software doesnt stand a chance against Open Source, or The beast of redmond. So what Microsoft kills creates a new seed planted in the beds of Open Source. Redmond are rapidly digging their own grave and in it will be planted the seeds of an open and free world
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I see what the implication is. But its still rather a grey area. Let see Redmond try and enforce it, You are either being open or not, somehow I dont think it would stand up in court!
... doh !
Gates: Yes your honour, everyone can use it except our main competitors
The term power user is rather sketchy, but I wouldnt categorise people who use photoshop and play lots of games power users! Perhaps a power user is someone more like myself, running an various servers, writing plenty code and having a reasonably good understanding about whats going on under my flashy gui.
Linux gives you an empowerment other oses dont give you.
I dont believe anyone has mentioned this, but lets not forget that a considerable chunk of linux users are tech savvy, or at least tech savvy enough to learn how to enjoy the many merits of linux itself, most of us dont notice or report the things that Joe Sixpack finds frustrating with linux.
Many people seem to be making comments as to the effect that linux will not be ready for the desktop until this, or that happens. Mostly reffering to the kind of point and click , hand holding nature of Win32 and MacOS.
Its just another evolutionary step, as more and more less savvy linux users try out the OS, the more our techy OSS developers will begin to hear about the things Joe Sixpack wants. In order for Joe Sixpack to start telling the community what he or she wants weve got to get them using Linux in the first place.
We have got to start somewhere and this new initiative is a step in the right direction. Stop bitching and lets support it!
Still no bluetooth or wifi built in..
no further comment required
I must admit, that is a frighteningly valid point. I've read Rebel Code (glynn moody) and its pretty much true to say that the original intentions of Linux were derived from Minix. Which in itself was intended to provide a Unix (previously the reserve of larger machines) to run on lesser hardware,eg x386 something that Linus hankered after...
None the less, it was still at least at that stage an original work and not based on the back then proprietary Unix source code.
The thing is, regardless of the source code, is it legal to create a product, identical or at least very similar to a proprietary product an allowable thing ?
I suppose this is where the issue of software patents comes in.. OpenOffice for example... is that similar to MSOffice that it could also be subject to review, even if the codebase is completely clean?
Im so indoctrinated with open source now that a world without it is a world I dont want to exist in. SCO suck and so does MS (multiple sclerosis)! While there is nothing wrong with the closed source model aside from its monopolistic behaviours, Open and Closed source models should be able to coexist simultaneously without all this damn bitching!