The guy who wrote this obviously had one point to make that he thought up, and instead of thinking of more and other interesting things to say, he just repeated himself until he made his target number of pages. The entire point can be neatly packaged in to one sentence: UNIX itself is secure, but people are stupid, so you UNIX kiddies had best watch out. I don't see the need to say that 50 times with various different self-congratulatory sentence structures.
So much money spent on chroming up a project, and allowing an experianced musician to be berated by a walking blob of marketing catch phrases and yuppie stupidity, just so I can keep my comptuer making no noise when it starts up. Oh and keep it running gentoo. =)
Does anyone else find it pretty absurd that the list of vulnerabilities is that long anyway? All statistical concerns (and as a student of that discipline, I have many) and OS opinions (I run Gentoo) aside, I think it's rather telling about the state of the industry, and consequently rather depressing, that there are literally thousands of reasonably major holes in the machines we've imbued with as much trust as the sum of all the Linux/UNIX and Windows boxes out there. Being a programmer, I know expecting perfect code out of the box is irrational, but maybe it's time for some paradigm shift.
I guess this must be the easiest solution to their blantant ignoring of any and all webstandards. Now if they'd just step up to the plate and stop making windows for PC, all would be well.
I'm going to have to weigh in on the side of HD-DVD on this particular front, for one simple reason: the pornography industry has already started to release movies in HD-DVD format. I don't want to link it and get kicked off Slashdot, but the movie "Pirates" comes as two DVDs and an HD-DVD. Historically, i.e. in BetaMax vs. VHS, the technology first supported by the adult entertainment fellows has been the one to survive in the long run, so despite its technological merits, BluRay probaly isn't going to last.
The author seems to want us all to know that his site is ajax free; and being so diserves a Piece of Flare (tm). Well, I'd like the author to know that the w3c says his website is awful:
The really depressing part about this headline is that it probably took eight or nine senior market analysts a full quarter's worth of work to figure this out, and all they had to do was Ask Slashdot (tm). Ah well; guess they have to make their Christmas bonuses somehow.
There appears to be a discrepancy in the BBC article, just in that this all happened three years ago. Anyone know what gives? I know the British comedians griped about "the national health" in the '70s, but is it really so bad that they wouldn't notice someone possibly curing themselves of AIDS until three years later?
I think more impressive than the Monad shell is the product scheduled for simultaneous release; I know I'm not alone in the Slashdot world in being pumped for Duke Nukem Forever.
I agree that obviously this sort of a development, if you'll excuse the pun, would lead to the need for software malpractice insurance, but this is by no means any sort of solution. It's a decently well documented fact that the malpractice insurance costs for medical insurance are driving many out of the profession. On the anecdotal level, I'm personally aware of people who have stopped doing more risky procedures, root canals in the case I'm thinking of, just to lower their insurance bills so they can stay in operation. (For a less anecdotal approach, there's some documentation here, and lots here.) Does this translate to programmers only using languages and operating systems deemed "well supported" by some bean counter, and therefore less risky? Forget about the IP debacle, can we even begin to quantify the sort of effect this would have on innovation and technical advancement? Taking risks and trying out new things is the very soul of technical work, and working with unstable material is the most efficent way to make it stable.
On a more pragmatic level, there are a number of differences between the more traditional professions to be held liable and that of the code-monkey. Most important, to my mind, is that for the larger firms, much work seems to be done in teams, so tracing down what exact individual is personally and exclusively responsible for a specific bug would be computationally expensive on a grand scale. This, therefore, would seem to point to a larger corporate liability, which I guess is fine for the truly larger corporations, but could kill a small company or an open source group without a second thought. I have yet to see any large company (*cough* Microsoft *cough*) actually being held truly responsible for their mistakes and bugs, so this obviously hasn't happened yet.
i wonder how they account for sarcasam missed from cultural differences. a friend of mine did some time in africa with the peace corps, and remembers all of the american humor based on sarcasam just deadpanning; maybe this sector is only developed through cultural trends?
From the first cited paragraph in the story, this sounds like it wouldn't apply to third-party software, i.e. gaim, trillian, etc., that use the AIM protocol and happen to run on oscar servers. So, if that's true, how could AOL sift out the conversations they were "allowed" to read, even if they wanted to?
I don't know about anyone else, but this sort of targeted campaign gets on my nerves. I would much rather have people getting in to the industry because they are passionate about it, and actually *care*, as opposed to because of some external trapping (e.g. the ever popular race/creed/gender/religion gambit). At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if your skin is purple and you only speak in anagrams; what does matter is if you're good at what you do, and if you love what you do.
No, I'm not denying that the workplace is probably different if you're a woman, or whatever else, but I am saying that a) there's no reason for it to be and b) any employer that actually rejects talented women/etc. or treats them unfairly isn't going to last particularly long at this point anyway.
Actually, Fedora Core 2 (tettnang) was named after a small town in northern germany. Yarrow (Core 1, now legacy) is a plant, but it's used for a beer-like sort of dealie, also a german thing from all reports.
How about we just focus on attracting people who have actual talent and love of Computer Science to it? Reguardless of age, gender, race, creed, linux flavor, etc., those are the people we really want.
Has it occured to anyone else that England isn't a democracy? And that it proabably doesn't have the anti-censorship law that the US does (and ignores, incidentally), so this is probably not as illegal as some of us would like to think?
Enlightening read, but frankly I don't see the author as some one who should be running Linux. It'd be like putting a 60 year old man on Slackware - not a smooth move. There are some people who just don't belong on a Linux box.
Also, shes just plain wrong in some cases. I'm runnin RH 7.3, installed it my self in a weekend with only a few problems and all of them caused by my n33wb status, and moreover I love it.
I don't understand that authors griping about things not working, personaly, beucase I had no issues whatsoever. Samba autodected my DSL modem and network router, my HP 932c works flawlessly, cordless optical mouse, keyboard, digi-cam, all fine. Still fine after I had to reinstall (screwed something up in root) too, so its not a fluke.
Linux isn't ment for the home user so much as a network, but this home user is totaly sated. Granted it takes an agile mind some evenings to figure out why somethings not working and one becomes very cozy with one's terminal window and referance books, but it beats anything else out there to date by a mile.
The guy who wrote this obviously had one point to make that he thought up, and instead of thinking of more and other interesting things to say, he just repeated himself until he made his target number of pages. The entire point can be neatly packaged in to one sentence: UNIX itself is secure, but people are stupid, so you UNIX kiddies had best watch out. I don't see the need to say that 50 times with various different self-congratulatory sentence structures.
For the love of god, man, throw in the occational \n!
So much money spent on chroming up a project, and allowing an experianced musician to be berated by a walking blob of marketing catch phrases and yuppie stupidity, just so I can keep my comptuer making no noise when it starts up. Oh and keep it running gentoo. =)
Does anyone else find it pretty absurd that the list of vulnerabilities is that long anyway? All statistical concerns (and as a student of that discipline, I have many) and OS opinions (I run Gentoo) aside, I think it's rather telling about the state of the industry, and consequently rather depressing, that there are literally thousands of reasonably major holes in the machines we've imbued with as much trust as the sum of all the Linux/UNIX and Windows boxes out there. Being a programmer, I know expecting perfect code out of the box is irrational, but maybe it's time for some paradigm shift.
I guess this must be the easiest solution to their blantant ignoring of any and all webstandards. Now if they'd just step up to the plate and stop making windows for PC, all would be well.
I'm going to have to weigh in on the side of HD-DVD on this particular front, for one simple reason: the pornography industry has already started to release movies in HD-DVD format. I don't want to link it and get kicked off Slashdot, but the movie "Pirates" comes as two DVDs and an HD-DVD. Historically, i.e. in BetaMax vs. VHS, the technology first supported by the adult entertainment fellows has been the one to survive in the long run, so despite its technological merits, BluRay probaly isn't going to last.
The author seems to want us all to know that his site is ajax free; and being so diserves a Piece of Flare (tm). Well, I'd like the author to know that the w3c says his website is awful:
3 A//www.usabilityviews.com/ajaxsucks.html.
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%
So I guess he's just blatently against any standards as well as any interesting advancing technologies.
The really depressing part about this headline is that it probably took eight or nine senior market analysts a full quarter's worth of work to figure this out, and all they had to do was Ask Slashdot (tm). Ah well; guess they have to make their Christmas bonuses somehow.
There appears to be a discrepancy in the BBC article, just in that this all happened three years ago. Anyone know what gives? I know the British comedians griped about "the national health" in the '70s, but is it really so bad that they wouldn't notice someone possibly curing themselves of AIDS until three years later?
Hello Professor; would you like to play a game of Search Engine War?
I think more impressive than the Monad shell is the product scheduled for simultaneous release; I know I'm not alone in the Slashdot world in being pumped for Duke Nukem Forever.
I agree that obviously this sort of a development, if you'll excuse the pun, would lead to the need for software malpractice insurance, but this is by no means any sort of solution. It's a decently well documented fact that the malpractice insurance costs for medical insurance are driving many out of the profession. On the anecdotal level, I'm personally aware of people who have stopped doing more risky procedures, root canals in the case I'm thinking of, just to lower their insurance bills so they can stay in operation. (For a less anecdotal approach, there's some documentation here, and lots here.) Does this translate to programmers only using languages and operating systems deemed "well supported" by some bean counter, and therefore less risky? Forget about the IP debacle, can we even begin to quantify the sort of effect this would have on innovation and technical advancement? Taking risks and trying out new things is the very soul of technical work, and working with unstable material is the most efficent way to make it stable.
On a more pragmatic level, there are a number of differences between the more traditional professions to be held liable and that of the code-monkey. Most important, to my mind, is that for the larger firms, much work seems to be done in teams, so tracing down what exact individual is personally and exclusively responsible for a specific bug would be computationally expensive on a grand scale. This, therefore, would seem to point to a larger corporate liability, which I guess is fine for the truly larger corporations, but could kill a small company or an open source group without a second thought. I have yet to see any large company (*cough* Microsoft *cough*) actually being held truly responsible for their mistakes and bugs, so this obviously hasn't happened yet.
Obviously only communists and n3wbcakes use operating "systems" that don't come from redford.
On a more useful note, can someone mirror this or set up a tracker for us pinko-commie types?
The firey horse porn of vengence shall be delivered at approx. five times the speed! Most excellent indeed.
i wonder how they account for sarcasam missed from cultural differences. a friend of mine did some time in africa with the peace corps, and remembers all of the american humor based on sarcasam just deadpanning; maybe this sector is only developed through cultural trends?
From the first cited paragraph in the story, this sounds like it wouldn't apply to third-party software, i.e. gaim, trillian, etc., that use the AIM protocol and happen to run on oscar servers. So, if that's true, how could AOL sift out the conversations they were "allowed" to read, even if they wanted to?
I don't know about anyone else, but this sort of targeted campaign gets on my nerves. I would much rather have people getting in to the industry because they are passionate about it, and actually *care*, as opposed to because of some external trapping (e.g. the ever popular race/creed/gender/religion gambit). At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if your skin is purple and you only speak in anagrams; what does matter is if you're good at what you do, and if you love what you do.
No, I'm not denying that the workplace is probably different if you're a woman, or whatever else, but I am saying that a) there's no reason for it to be and b) any employer that actually rejects talented women/etc. or treats them unfairly isn't going to last particularly long at this point anyway.
i guess USB really will be the end of serial.
Actually, Fedora Core 2 (tettnang) was named after a small town in northern germany. Yarrow (Core 1, now legacy) is a plant, but it's used for a beer-like sort of dealie, also a german thing from all reports.
if the Nation of Ireland will be sober enough to celebrate when they hear the news..
How about we just focus on attracting people who have actual talent and love of Computer Science to it? Reguardless of age, gender, race, creed, linux flavor, etc., those are the people we really want.
Has it occured to anyone else that England isn't a democracy? And that it proabably doesn't have the anti-censorship law that the US does (and ignores, incidentally), so this is probably not as illegal as some of us would like to think?
perhaps some connection between using BuddyZoo and getting your arse spammed to bits...
Enlightening read, but frankly I don't see the author as some one who should be running Linux. It'd be like putting a 60 year old man on Slackware - not a smooth move. There are some people who just don't belong on a Linux box.
Also, shes just plain wrong in some cases. I'm runnin RH 7.3, installed it my self in a weekend with only a few problems and all of them caused by my n33wb status, and moreover I love it.
I don't understand that authors griping about things not working, personaly, beucase I had no issues whatsoever. Samba autodected my DSL modem and network router, my HP 932c works flawlessly, cordless optical mouse, keyboard, digi-cam, all fine. Still fine after I had to reinstall (screwed something up in root) too, so its not a fluke.
Linux isn't ment for the home user so much as a network, but this home user is totaly sated. Granted it takes an agile mind some evenings to figure out why somethings not working and one becomes very cozy with one's terminal window and referance books, but it beats anything else out there to date by a mile.
Ron'd storm-door warehouse sells a product with Windows on it with out our liscence...