Locking down the essentials in a system is not that difficult, there are preventative/corrective measures that can turn bios trojans into nothing more than a short term pain in the ass. Having a secured OS is not impossible, just not profitable enough for the MS/Symantec business plan. People would not upgrade to get the latest trusted, more secure version quickly enough.
The whole virus, trojan, then upgrade to a more secure system is akin to consumer fraud!
And again; I did not mean Apple OS10! I meant the little company that still can, but keeps a low profile making custom software for secure systems.
This is the crux of the matter, the ability of modified M$ XML to do what should be system command modified functions is stupid. The internet redirect security settings of IE can get overridden by smart XML- microshaft.net code! Might as well not have any internet security or user control. Big question is why the IE browser alows plug in like crap without the user having to impliment the stuff.
As I said in my first post to this topic, sneaky advertising is killing the real value of the net, to legitimate firms.
Mod me down for being redundant I do not care, truth is more important, for the second time.
The problem is the eula of gator must be signed by the user. The problem is therefore THE STUPID USER, something that Microsoft software creates in abundance. Fighting the validity of eulas for software is a better way to stop the crap.
This kind of mindless crap will make fair internet advertising useless. If the reverse is also legal then we should start some kind of.org to list and use netware to hack the services and software that will need to be driven off the net. Microsoft might even get smart and help for a change!
"Here is a reverse engineering feat for you all...POS(Point of Sale) terminal........"
You would be inviting an attack by the legal representation of mad squirrels! Squirrels are very teritorial little creatures. http://www.squirrelsystems.com/press/pr/Mar0502.ht ml
40% of deepest darkest Mississippi have not seen a telephone yet either!
To export our values and technology to the third world we need to look more carefully at the state of our own house. Some technologies are not appropriate in the third world, the same thing applies to areas in the US. Expensive high-tech communication is not the answer to poverty and ignorance.
There is no get rich quick consumer base to fleese so the American big dollar high-tech model will not work. Coca-cola politics cause hate, and most of the anti democracy movements that stop those that really try to do good work, with appropriate tech.
No, but trying to get your point across on slashdot is like trying to innovate with Visual Studio and MS locked hardware code! You use whats there because the really good stuff gets locked up.
Ideas like a booting from a ram run fixed drive get thrown away!
Why? Because to eliminate MS Windows need to boot from a spinning junky harddrive on the PC would make the consumer wise to the built in planned obsoscence of Microsofts software/hardware dominance.
Hardware advancement is stiffled by the lack of competition. This is how the ram, harddrive, and most of computer hardware industry has come to be run. Unfortunately this has become the norm in hardware/software design because of the mad ruin of competiting ideas by a monoply.
If some bright computer company bucks the trend and produces a home computer that does not need to boot from a harddrive, but can use whatever OS the user chooses from a base boot system. Then what will happen to the MS dominated hardware market? Oh my computer doesn't care if it runs XP, Linux, or whatever.
If the harddrive based software OS screws up then I just run the original fixed OS which could also be upgraded. Problem is the user would tend to stick to the fast boot OS on the fixed ram drive. Microsoft knows this and just has not been able to make the idea work on the antiquated IBM 386 arch PC yet. Or, are they scared stiff that the people who hold certain patents to this particular type of system configuration would sue their butts!
Just imagine no more viruses, no more trojans (unless you are really stupid). Not having to bow to Redmond 6 times per day, or every time you use the net.
At least you will now have a piece of paper handy if you take your laptop camping and find you forgot toilet paper!
Be warned, using the rescue disk that came with it might give you a rash. It is now useless plastic anyway and is best used at home under a beer glass to protect your coffee table, like mine.
Gnumeric's best ideas are getting hard to clone!
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It is a good thing that the open-source gcc is not a good thing to develop new ideas with for pirate-ware style software firms. Otherwise someone might succeed in patenting cloned ideas like a spread sheet, word processor, htm, internet commerce software interfaces.... digital communication firmware, encryption ssl, etc.
Hurray finally the folks who cloned visi-calc and 1-2-3 are starting to feel the heat. Bring on 2.6 and 64 bit AMD chips the fight is on!
Here is an old post of mine that still applies to this topic.
From Responses to a Slashdot Article A Chinese Moon Base by 2010- or 2006?
'why even bother?' ( a post )
"mining materials from the moon is going to be more expensive than raiding Western Russia and mining in Siberia then shipping it back to China.
It's expensive to live there, to ship people there, and to experiment there (what to experiment on I will never know).
I can't see a financial justification to use it as a start point for Mars missions when there is nothing of use on Mars (even if there is water and "life").
Let's have our people suffer and wither away in the wastelands of undeveloped China and build a moon base!"
ratfynk's response;
Give me an economic justification for war, and then I might go along with your statement. The first casualties of war are usually not American economic theorists, though this might be a good thing.
Bullshit to your economics. Give us an economic explanation of the pyramids all around the world or European middle age cathedrals.
There is every economic justification for non-productive space exploration, it would employ millions and do no harm. Can we really justify our so-called western lifestyle (I gag at the canned advertising word lifestyle)?
The Chinese have been spared the mass obsessions of insane 'lifestyle consumerism'. As they open their society and discover their true value as a people, they will over take the West in all fields of scientific human social endeavour within the next decade.
As the first people to use fireworks in a non-destructive way maybe that is what they have in mind. When you set off a nuclear explosion 40 or 50 thousand miles out in space all you get is one hell of a big flash. It is the use of nuclear technology within our atmosphere that is the real cause for concern.
Here is good developement tools and learning interface for the unfortunate Windows users in Oregon who cannot afford to use MS software or the time to learn Linux dev tools first. www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/
Wow MS has dicovered that reference file translation can work. Data bases can cross ref. Very innovative.
Is that a masculine reference or? That is one hell of a long way from true language translation. The differences in inflection between dialects alone is something computer algorytms cannot cope with unless the leg work of cross referencing phrases is done first.
Like their encyclopedia it will suck if they do not spend the time and money to make it work first. Taking care of the huge information data bases needed will cost Bill billions.
A Startrek like universal translator on the PocketPC is not going to cut it. It will make babble fish look good!
Language translation through data base cross referencing software is not something that Microsoft can patent it has already been done.
But who knows they might just manage to weasel a patent on all language phrase translation software. Or something really stupid like that.
With the patents that are being issued for software today as an example, just the name and description might pass for a real product/idea.
'sigh' I whole heartedly agree! However we already pay for the stupidity of others with things like car insurance, health insurance. And other Government sanctioned taxes.
So a tax on legitimate users of products like cd's or the internet is nothing out of the ordinary. If you have a big enough lobby you get it.
It is the tendancy of Government sponsored corporation and industries to drop to the lowest level when given the oportunity. Fleese the sheep. That is the reason for todays tax the internet solutions.
The big piece of the pie is the fact that scripts and executables can run and modify your system in the background.
The real fix is to dump the OS that alows shit like that to happen! Sure you can get a trojan with systems other than MS, if you are stupid enough to let internet sourced applications run without checking them out first.
Separating the computer from the internet was the whole purpose of htm. Trusted style MS computing is just plain stupid, and the reason for virii!
Try writing a virus for a system like OsX.... and I do not mean OS-10, cannot be done, learn why then you will see why MS cannot get rid of their virus problem. Because someone else holds the patent on how it is done?
Ms has tried to clone the idea but would get their butt sued if they did it without a small hardware design change. This design and software struct is also not in the public domain yet, and might not be for some time.
Until then we will have to pay companies like Symantec and MS heaps of cash every couple of years to 'upgrade' or face being hacked.
The sheep are in the meadow the cows in the corn................ I'm blowin' my horn and but the sheep are deaf. and................. The cow ate so much that it had a shit explosion!
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My idea is to set up enormous propane jet powered flaming tuned horns. With a music keyboard (at a descreet distance) then shake mountains from miles away. Forget about electronics. What you could do with huge steel horns driven by combustion would db speakers to pieces, and anyones ear drums within several hundred yards, might even do more than that. Just imagine Die Kunst der Fuge played with echo effects in the Rockie Mountains and audible for hundreds of miles. Eat music you thumping Honda junkies!
The first behind the sceen pop I have ever had with Mozilla came from a usa today interview with Bill Gates it popped up an add behind Mozilla! No fooling.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2003-06-29-gat es -linux_x.htm
Gave me popup in the behind using Mozilla for the first time.
You can bet the Microsoft software internet add junkware guys are working on Mozilla as fast as they can.
The only difference between a cheap cell phone plan and a cheap Lexmark printer is; The phone will travel further when you through it away after you run out of air time.
The cell phone agreement tells you the cost in the small print of your plan. The printer is more devious it tries to hide the costs in a different department of the store, or in obscure places with very tiny price stickers. Never do you see a cost per page printed listed. That would be too competitive!
"Why is the OSS community so obsessed with re-inventing the wheel? (Or Unix for that matter...) Lets see another desktop model, for example, instead of Yet Another Windows Clone..."
Without re-engineering compition to Microsoft we will within 5 years have, surrendered all digital communication technology world-wide to one small consortium.
Nothing less than this is the corporate manifesto of Microsoft. If it can't control absolutely then it perverts through lobby in Washington D.C.
Of course MS never does any re-engineering, it just hires legions of virgins with a legal clean status to code only in their own version of C languages. It then has the dirty people tell them what bits they are to work on. Innovation? you be the judge!
Boy are you missing the point. The memory allocation of the Linux alows it to boot as an os even though it is not using effectively all the file storage access. Try that with a windows based os. Thump, crunch, no go! Put the Linux on its flash rom instead of pocket pc then you will have a real compact versatile os. The memory mapping work done by the guy who wrote it is brilliant.
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The whole virus, trojan, then upgrade to a more secure system is akin to consumer fraud!
And again; I did not mean Apple OS10! I meant the little company that still can, but keeps a low profile making custom software for secure systems.
Sloc unidentified Canadian satellite, response code emergency.
Sloc to Mubin rav message recieve proceeding with analysis of device....
Mubin rav; Proceed.
Sloc to Mubin rav;...Unable to communicate with human coded control device! Device is using unfamiliar uncrackable interface.
Mubin rav; destroy unfamiliar possibly hostile device.
Sloc to Mubin rav; device destroyed, reporting unusual occurance to Earth based co-ordination centre http://www.nasa.gov/ for analysis.
This is the crux of the matter, the ability of modified M$ XML to do what should be system command modified functions is stupid. The internet redirect security settings of IE can get overridden by smart XML- microshaft .net code! Might as well not have any internet security or user control. Big question is why the IE browser alows plug in like crap without the user having to impliment the stuff.
As I said in my first post to this topic, sneaky advertising is killing the real value of the net, to legitimate firms.
Mod me down for being redundant I do not care, truth is more important, for the second time.
The problem is the eula of gator must be signed by the user. The problem is therefore THE STUPID USER, something that Microsoft software creates in abundance. Fighting the validity of eulas for software is a better way to stop the crap.
This kind of mindless crap will make fair internet advertising useless. If the reverse is also legal then we should start some kind of .org to list and use netware to hack the services and software that will need to be driven off the net. Microsoft might even get smart and help for a change!
"Here is a reverse engineering feat for you all...POS(Point of Sale) terminal ........"
You would be inviting an attack by the legal representation of mad squirrels! Squirrels are very teritorial little creatures. http://www.squirrelsystems.com/press/pr/Mar0502.ht ml
help I am being held captive in a chinese fortune cookie discussion factory started by Linus Torvald!
40% of deepest darkest Mississippi have not seen a telephone yet either!
To export our values and technology to the third world we need to look more carefully at the state of our own house. Some technologies are not appropriate in the third world, the same thing applies to areas in the US.
Expensive high-tech communication is not the answer to poverty and ignorance.
There is no get rich quick consumer base to fleese so the American big dollar high-tech model will not work. Coca-cola politics cause hate, and most of the anti democracy movements that stop those that really try to do good work, with appropriate tech.
No, but trying to get your point across on slashdot is like trying to innovate with Visual Studio and MS locked hardware code! You use whats there because the really good stuff gets locked up.
What if someone gave a party and no one came?
Ideas like a booting from a ram run fixed drive get thrown away!
Why? Because to eliminate MS Windows need to boot from a spinning junky harddrive on the PC would make the consumer wise to the built in planned obsoscence of Microsofts software/hardware dominance.
Hardware advancement is stiffled by the lack of competition. This is how the ram, harddrive, and most of computer hardware industry has come to be run. Unfortunately this has become the norm in hardware/software design because of the mad ruin of competiting ideas by a monoply.
If some bright computer company bucks the trend and produces a home computer that does not need to boot from a harddrive, but can use whatever OS the user chooses from a base boot system. Then what will happen to the MS dominated hardware market? Oh my computer doesn't care if it runs XP, Linux, or whatever.
If the harddrive based software OS screws up then I just run the original fixed OS which could also be upgraded. Problem is the user would tend to stick to the fast boot OS on the fixed ram drive.
Microsoft knows this and just has not been able to make the idea work on the antiquated IBM 386 arch PC yet. Or, are they scared stiff that the people who hold certain patents to this particular type of system configuration would sue their butts!
Just imagine no more viruses, no more trojans (unless you are really stupid). Not having to bow to Redmond 6 times per day, or every time you use the net.
This is a very real possibility.
At least you will now have a piece of paper handy if you take your laptop camping and find you forgot toilet paper!
Be warned, using the rescue disk that came with it might give you a rash. It is now useless plastic anyway and is best used at home under a beer glass to protect your coffee table, like mine.
It is a good thing that the open-source gcc is not a good thing to develop new ideas with for pirate-ware style software firms. Otherwise someone might succeed in patenting cloned ideas like a spread sheet, word processor, htm, internet commerce software interfaces.... digital communication firmware, encryption ssl, etc.
Hurray finally the folks who cloned visi-calc and 1-2-3 are starting to feel the heat. Bring on 2.6 and 64 bit AMD chips the fight is on!
Here is an old post of mine that still applies to this topic.
From Responses to a Slashdot Article
A Chinese Moon Base by 2010- or 2006?
'why even bother?' ( a post )
"mining materials from the moon is going to be more expensive than raiding Western Russia and mining in Siberia then shipping it back to China.
It's expensive to live there, to ship people there, and to experiment there (what to experiment on I will never know).
I can't see a financial justification to use it as a start point for Mars missions when there is nothing of use on Mars (even if there is water and "life").
Let's have our people suffer and wither away in the wastelands of undeveloped China and
build a moon base!"
ratfynk's response;
Give me an economic justification for war, and then I might go along with your statement. The first casualties of war are usually not American economic theorists, though this might be a good thing.
Bullshit to your economics. Give us an economic explanation of the pyramids all around the world or European middle age cathedrals.
There is every economic justification for non-productive space exploration, it would employ millions and do no harm. Can we really justify our so-called western lifestyle (I gag at the canned advertising word lifestyle)?
The Chinese have been spared the mass obsessions of insane 'lifestyle consumerism'. As they open their society and discover their true value as a people, they will over take the West in all fields of scientific human social endeavour within the next decade.
As the first people to use fireworks in a non-destructive way maybe that is what they have in mind. When you set off a nuclear explosion 40 or 50 thousand miles out in space all you get is one hell of a big flash. It is the use of nuclear technology within our atmosphere that is the real cause for concern.
Here is good developement tools and learning interface for the unfortunate Windows users in Oregon who cannot afford to use MS software or the time to learn Linux dev tools first. www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/
Could the parent be an automated reply from an MS or SCO spam bot?
I've seen most of this shit before just with different wording sounds like a clone of this www.alicebot.org/ oops!
Don't rock the boat............
I was only making the observation that caveat emptor is still the norm in hyped up busnesses like the computer and cell phone market.
You are also a sucker/consumer and as such choose to be anonymous.
To be deceptive is a wise financial decision, it is the only way many of the large chain retailers survive!
Bah....shit
Bah....shit
Bah....shit
Fiction is art!
The MS language translation software patent is the highest art in fiction, written by the greatest fiction writers of today...Lawyers/spin-doctors.
His reference to Star Drek is a hoot!
Wow MS has dicovered that reference file translation can work. Data bases can cross ref. Very innovative.
Is that a masculine reference or? That is one hell of a long way from true language translation.
The differences in inflection between dialects alone is something computer algorytms cannot cope with unless the leg work of cross referencing phrases is done first.
Like their encyclopedia it will suck if they do not spend the time and money to make it work first. Taking care of the huge information data bases needed will cost Bill billions.
A Startrek like universal translator on the PocketPC is not going to cut it. It will make babble fish look good!
Language translation through data base cross referencing software is not something that Microsoft can patent it has already been done.
But who knows they might just manage to weasel a patent on all language phrase translation software. Or something really stupid like that.
With the patents that are being issued for software today as an example, just the name and description might pass for a real product/idea.
'sigh' I whole heartedly agree! However we already pay for the stupidity of others with things like car insurance, health insurance. And other Government sanctioned taxes.
So a tax on legitimate users of products like cd's or the internet is nothing out of the ordinary. If you have a big enough lobby you get it.
It is the tendancy of Government sponsored corporation and industries to drop to the lowest level when given the oportunity. Fleese the sheep. That is the reason for todays tax the internet solutions.
bah...................
The big piece of the pie is the fact that scripts and executables can run and modify your system in the background.
The real fix is to dump the OS that alows shit like that to happen! Sure you can get a trojan with systems other than MS, if you are stupid enough to let internet sourced applications run without checking them out first.
Separating the computer from the internet was the whole purpose of htm. Trusted style MS computing is just plain stupid, and the reason for virii!
Try writing a virus for a system like OsX.... and I do not mean OS-10, cannot be done, learn why then you will see why MS cannot get rid of their virus problem. Because someone else holds the patent on how it is done?
Ms has tried to clone the idea but would get their butt sued if they did it without a small hardware design change. This design and software struct is also not in the public domain yet, and might not be for some time.
Until then we will have to pay companies like Symantec and MS heaps of cash every couple of years to 'upgrade' or face being hacked.
The sheep are in the meadow the cows in the corn................
I'm blowin' my horn and but the sheep are deaf.
and.................
The cow ate so much that it had a shit explosion!
My idea is to set up enormous propane jet powered flaming tuned horns. With a music keyboard (at a descreet distance) then shake mountains from miles away. Forget about electronics. What you could do with huge steel horns driven by combustion would db speakers to pieces, and anyones ear drums within several hundred yards, might even do more than that.
Just imagine Die Kunst der Fuge played with echo effects in the Rockie Mountains and audible for hundreds of miles. Eat music you thumping Honda junkies!
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2003-06-29-ga
Gave me popup in the behind using Mozilla for the first time.
You can bet the Microsoft software internet add junkware guys are working on Mozilla as fast as they can.
The only difference between a cheap cell phone plan and a cheap Lexmark printer is; The phone will travel further when you through it away after you run out of air time.
The cell phone agreement tells you the cost in the small print of your plan. The printer is more devious it tries to hide the costs in a different department of the store, or in obscure places with very tiny price stickers. Never do you see a cost per page printed listed. That would be too competitive!
bah...shit
bah...shit
bah...shit
The lament of todays consumer/sheep.
"Why is the OSS community so obsessed with re-inventing the wheel? (Or Unix for that matter...) Lets see another desktop model, for example, instead of Yet Another Windows Clone..."
Without re-engineering compition to Microsoft we will within 5 years have, surrendered all digital communication technology world-wide to one small consortium.
Nothing less than this is the corporate manifesto of Microsoft. If it can't control absolutely then it perverts through lobby in Washington D.C.
Of course MS never does any re-engineering, it just hires legions of virgins with a legal clean status to code only in their own version of C languages. It then has the dirty people tell them what bits they are to work on. Innovation? you be the judge!
Boy are you missing the point.
The memory allocation of the Linux alows it to boot as an os even though it is not using effectively all the file storage access. Try that with a windows based os. Thump, crunch, no go! Put the Linux on its flash rom instead of pocket pc then you will have a real compact versatile os.
The memory mapping work done by the guy who wrote it is brilliant.