Heh, my sister did the exact same thing. I had to tell her over and over that physically moving the controller to the left would not help her move left... now this!
Did anyone else see that commercial a while back that had this guy in a long trenchcoat walking through a supermarket, stuffing things into his coat. He take a whole bunch of stuff and sticks in inside his coat and then walks out, and as he walking out a employee stops him and hands him his receipt for all the stuff he just bought.
So they wouldn't be able to charge as much for hardware as they do currently. Any reason why they couldn't lower their prices and be another Dell, but with a different OS (and hardware really)? Does the hardware cost them more than Dell's hardware (since it is made specifically for Apple, I could understand the answer to this being yes).
I probably just dont understand the business well enough but if Apple could sell 5 million copies of OS X for (generic) Intel system, why wouldnt they? Is -all- of their money made off of the hardware? How does selling lots of copies of OS X equal Apple losing money? I'm not saying you're wrong, but please clairify, I'm genuinely interested.
Its good for the business but not for the consumer. The whole idea behind OSS is to empower the consumer, not the business. If you want to stay in business in an OSS world, you have to do a good job, and provide what the consumer wants, not lock the customer into using your software because they cant possibly go anywhere else thanks to your locking them into your software.
It does mean that, as a software programmer, you have to like what you do, and do it well.
But I think the point that RMS tries to get across is that you shouldnt be paying for the software, but the support and work. e.g. I pay you to write a piece of software to tell time. The software is released under GPL and I get what I want. If I like the work you did I might pay you to add a calander function to the clock, or, if I didnt like your work, I pay someone else to modify the program (which is possible because its open source).
If you are running updates in the background and want to catch important information just grep the output to a file.
Something like "emerge -u world | grep '*' >> important_update_info.txt"
The imporant messenges are all prefixed with * so you can easily catch them. Make a shell script to do it for you. Mail it to youself if thats what you need.
As for just blindly updating, thats not something you should be doing on a production server. Test server first, then roll changes to production.
Your psycho with a gun is not an appropriate metaphor. You can only nerf yourself, not others.
I dont know why you started talking about usability, thats not what we're talking about.
You statement in re3 could be rephrased like this: "Linux users are not as likely to do something stupid". That has no bering on the security of the acutal operating system.
Your statement "Open source authors tend to be more concerned with security" is certainly true. One of the reason for Open Source is to allow for spotting and removal of insecure code. A larger userbase would not change this (time will tell however).
Linux has had file permissions since day 1. Windows did not have it until NT.
Your argument that idiots who will run anything means that a OS is not secure is not valid. Anyone who -wants- to nerf their own system is perfectly able to do so without assistance.
I could debate with you about this further, but its obvious that you dont understand, and I dont feel like being a teacher.
Talk to a kernel developer or a gnu/hurd developer (they are pretty chatty if you try), and tell them (and you'd better have some facts to back yourself up) that they have made an insecure system. I guarentee you they will either be able to prove you wrong, or, on the off chance that you do have some knowledge that you havent shared with me, they will fix it.
Talk to a Microsoft developer. Tell them they have made an insecure system, and they will agree with you.
Response to item 1: A user can nerf his/her own files, not other peoples. They cannot (short of exploits which do exist) nerf the OS or other users files. Linux is a multiuser OS. The system will not protect idiots from nerfing their own system. No well written system will
Response to item 2: A virus/worm/spyware will only nerf a users files if executed as that user or root. In the former case see response 1. The latter is bound to happen (in any OS), however I'd be willing to bet it wouldnt take 3+ months for the kernel developers to patch it (or someone at least).
Response to item 3: Linux applications (as a general guideline) will not practice this unsafe procedure. I'm not familiar with any applications that do, but I certainly wouldnt allow for it. ActiveX has little to do with it other than it allows for so much destructive execution. No internet application for linux (that i'm aware of) has this built in potential disaster.
Response to item 4: I guess I have to agree.
Response to NTFS: What security? Being able to read/write to the file system? What does this statement mean?
Your statement that "Linux is a safer system because nobody uses it" is based on what data exactly? Is the percentage less, sure.
Linux is safer because its harder to write effective virii, etc for. A virus might impact a certain small % of linux users, but would hardly be as universally devestating as windows virii are.
Seriously, I've been a suppporter of palms for many years (owned several different units, currently content with treo600), and I couldnt be more thrilled with this news.
Firstly, I've been eagerly anticipating Cobalt since its announcement, and have been sorely dissapointed that it has not surfaced yet. Secondly, I'm a huge linux nut, and having my PDA running palmOS on top of linux thrills me to no end. My two favorite OSs working together (imagine being able to run Cobalt on your PC as a program to access your data that you synced, and then tie that data into things like mozilla thunderbird, rock!) I have not done any development for Palm thus far, but I think this sort of thing will force my hand. DAMN YOU PALM. YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE MY MONEY FROM ME AGAIN!!! (P.S. I cant wait for my Treo, or a similar device, to run this:)
Theres an old palm conduit for thunderbird for contacts, but nothing that i've been able to get to work. I would be thrilled if the firefox/thunderbird/sunbird set could be sync'd with my palm in both windows and linux.
It just annoys me that they expect us to have bleeding edge technology, and then more or less say that those of us with DVD drives are TOO advanced? Bull, I've had a DVD drive on my system since '99. Did the DVD release of UT2004 cut into sales that badly? I was given to understand the the DVD release sold out really quickly. I waited until they re-released the DVD edition before I purchased it. I dont care about special crap that companies feel they need to include with the DVD releases (headsets, videos, etc). I just want the nice case (dvd cases are great disk and plenty of room for instruction book/cdkey), and the low number of disks. On the other hand this doesnt help my conspiracy theory that ID software is getting paid $$$ to make the hardware specs as high as possible by 10+ companies (nvidia, amd, intel, dell, alienware, etc). Someday I will find proof!
More to the point, they have no problems requiring you to have the latest $500 video card to PLAY the game, but dont expect that you will have a $40 dollar DVD drive that come standard with new machines? I'll probably just do what I did with all of my other multi disk games and burn a dvd with all the CDs and a copy of the cd crack on it.
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I'd buy uplink in a heartbeat if they made it available through steam. Not sure about Darwinia though....
Fast Food? Fast cars/trucks? Ummmmm fast..... garage doors?
We liked bloated speed I think.
Yes, but can you dance on the head of a pin?
Heh, my sister did the exact same thing. I had to tell her over and over that physically moving the controller to the left would not help her move left... now this!
Did anyone else see that commercial a while back that had this guy in a long trenchcoat walking through a supermarket, stuffing things into his coat. He take a whole bunch of stuff and sticks in inside his coat and then walks out, and as he walking out a employee stops him and hands him his receipt for all the stuff he just bought.
::cough::slackware::cough::
isn't there a press shield law to prevent this sort of thing?
Follow-up question?
So they wouldn't be able to charge as much for hardware as they do currently. Any reason why they couldn't lower their prices and be another Dell, but with a different OS (and hardware really)? Does the hardware cost them more than Dell's hardware (since it is made specifically for Apple, I could understand the answer to this being yes).
I probably just dont understand the business well enough but if Apple could sell 5 million copies of OS X for (generic) Intel system, why wouldnt they? Is -all- of their money made off of the hardware? How does selling lots of copies of OS X equal Apple losing money? I'm not saying you're wrong, but please clairify, I'm genuinely interested.
The country where I quite want to be...
I've got a bad feeling about this...
I'm US so it seems I wont be getting one of these, but this is a good step. Here's what I'm currently looking for in a laptop.
-3 hours of "normal" usage
-nvidia graphics
-amd64 proc
-dual layer dvd burner
and then the normal goodies (high speed proc, gig of ram, bluetooth, wifi, etc).
I havent seen any laptops that had the 4 primary things I'm looking for though. Sigh.
Its good for the business but not for the consumer. The whole idea behind OSS is to empower the consumer, not the business. If you want to stay in business in an OSS world, you have to do a good job, and provide what the consumer wants, not lock the customer into using your software because they cant possibly go anywhere else thanks to your locking them into your software.
It does mean that, as a software programmer, you have to like what you do, and do it well.
But I think the point that RMS tries to get across is that you shouldnt be paying for the software, but the support and work.
e.g.
I pay you to write a piece of software to tell time. The software is released under GPL and I get what I want. If I like the work you did I might pay you to add a calander function to the clock, or, if I didnt like your work, I pay someone else to modify the program (which is possible because its open source).
Hear hear! Thats a really good idea!
If you are running updates in the background and want to catch important information just grep the output to a file.
Something like "emerge -u world | grep '*' >> important_update_info.txt"
The imporant messenges are all prefixed with * so you can easily catch them. Make a shell script to do it for you. Mail it to youself if thats what you need.
As for just blindly updating, thats not something you should be doing on a production server. Test server first, then roll changes to production.
Your psycho with a gun is not an appropriate metaphor. You can only nerf yourself, not others.
I dont know why you started talking about usability, thats not what we're talking about.
You statement in re3 could be rephrased like this:
"Linux users are not as likely to do something stupid". That has no bering on the security of the acutal operating system.
Your statement "Open source authors tend to be more concerned with security" is certainly true. One of the reason for Open Source is to allow for spotting and removal of insecure code. A larger userbase would not change this (time will tell however).
Linux has had file permissions since day 1. Windows did not have it until NT.
Your argument that idiots who will run anything means that a OS is not secure is not valid. Anyone who -wants- to nerf their own system is perfectly able to do so without assistance.
I could debate with you about this further, but its obvious that you dont understand, and I dont feel like being a teacher.
Talk to a kernel developer or a gnu/hurd developer (they are pretty chatty if you try), and tell them (and you'd better have some facts to back yourself up) that they have made an insecure system. I guarentee you they will either be able to prove you wrong, or, on the off chance that you do have some knowledge that you havent shared with me, they will fix it.
Talk to a Microsoft developer. Tell them they have made an insecure system, and they will agree with you.
Response to item 1:
A user can nerf his/her own files, not other peoples. They cannot (short of exploits which do exist) nerf the OS or other users files. Linux is a multiuser OS. The system will not protect idiots from nerfing their own system. No well written system will
Response to item 2:
A virus/worm/spyware will only nerf a users files if executed as that user or root. In the former case see response 1. The latter is bound to happen (in any OS), however I'd be willing to bet it wouldnt take 3+ months for the kernel developers to patch it (or someone at least).
Response to item 3:
Linux applications (as a general guideline) will not practice this unsafe procedure. I'm not familiar with any applications that do, but I certainly wouldnt allow for it. ActiveX has little to do with it other than it allows for so much destructive execution. No internet application for linux (that i'm aware of) has this built in potential disaster.
Response to item 4:
I guess I have to agree.
Response to NTFS:
What security? Being able to read/write to the file system? What does this statement mean?
Your statement that "Linux is a safer system because nobody uses it" is based on what data exactly? Is the percentage less, sure.
Linux is safer because its harder to write effective virii, etc for. A virus might impact a certain small % of linux users, but would hardly be as universally devestating as windows virii are.
Seriously, I've been a suppporter of palms for many years (owned several different units, currently content with treo600), and I couldnt be more thrilled with this news.
:)
Firstly, I've been eagerly anticipating Cobalt since its announcement, and have been sorely dissapointed that it has not surfaced yet.
Secondly, I'm a huge linux nut, and having my PDA running palmOS on top of linux thrills me to no end. My two favorite OSs working together (imagine being able to run Cobalt on your PC as a program to access your data that you synced, and then tie that data into things like mozilla thunderbird, rock!)
I have not done any development for Palm thus far, but I think this sort of thing will force my hand. DAMN YOU PALM. YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE MY MONEY FROM ME AGAIN!!!
(P.S. I cant wait for my Treo, or a similar device, to run this
I've been playing all morning on a similar system (2.06ghz AMD, 1024 pc3200 ram, gf4ti4200) and its been very enjoyable. Have fun on Sat!
They can sell it. They just can't distribute it. "We'll take your money, though we can't promise we'll deliver."
I believe the original HL engine was based off the the original quake engine.
Theres an old palm conduit for thunderbird for contacts, but nothing that i've been able to get to work.
I would be thrilled if the firefox/thunderbird/sunbird set could be sync'd with my palm in both windows and linux.
It just annoys me that they expect us to have bleeding edge technology, and then more or less say that those of us with DVD drives are TOO advanced? Bull, I've had a DVD drive on my system since '99. Did the DVD release of UT2004 cut into sales that badly? I was given to understand the the DVD release sold out really quickly. I waited until they re-released the DVD edition before I purchased it. I dont care about special crap that companies feel they need to include with the DVD releases (headsets, videos, etc). I just want the nice case (dvd cases are great disk and plenty of room for instruction book/cdkey), and the low number of disks.
On the other hand this doesnt help my conspiracy theory that ID software is getting paid $$$ to make the hardware specs as high as possible by 10+ companies (nvidia, amd, intel, dell, alienware, etc). Someday I will find proof!
More to the point, they have no problems requiring you to have the latest $500 video card to PLAY the game, but dont expect that you will have a $40 dollar DVD drive that come standard with new machines? I'll probably just do what I did with all of my other multi disk games and burn a dvd with all the CDs and a copy of the cd crack on it.
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